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>Sanae in the EX of SA is substantially harder than Kanako in the EX stage of MoF
both are easy

>I feel that Suwako's final card was just Zun running out of ideas, since it was just phase 4 of Hourai Elixer from Erin in IN.
Same color an' everything. Kinda silly really.

>>7533948
This is actually fairly difficult.

At the very least I can now reliably capture a similar non-card from Byakuren.

I just cleared some ex stages

Thinking I was hot shit I decided to run the hard mode of IN for the first time.

Oh dammit Marisa, why are you harder than Udonge?

>>7533982
>mfw I can get to udonge on lunatic but can't clear any extras other than mokou and can't even 1cc normal on UFO

>>7533977
>This is actually fairly difficult.
Easy mode.

>>7533999

>>7533999
Why would you do that (to yourself)?

It's EX by itself good enough for you without making the bullets arbitrarily denser/faster?

>>7534039
Because it's more fun this way.

>>7534039
Wait, is this a modified run of the game?

>>7534103
there's some such program that enables you to edit values from the game's hex files, for instance speeding the bullets up.

There's a limit to everything, even dick waving contests. It's not too unreasonable to spend the time needed to 1cc an EX stage, but to go this far is a bit much.

>>7534196
>It's not too unreasonable to spend the time needed to 1cc an EX stage, but to go this far is a bit much.
Not to be rude, but SA Extra is really easy, and these double density modifications make it much more fun.

>>7534247
What would you say is the relative difficulty of each EX stage/boss from EoSD onwards?

I was under the impression that Koishi was one of the harder fights.

>>7534260
SA < UFO < PCB Phantasm < MoF < PCB Extra < IN

From easiest to hardest. Now, I know that many people vehemently disagree with me, and that's understandable. Since I'm not really concerned with "clearing" Extra these days, I rank them based on how easy it is to do a perfect no death/no bomb run. The fact that IN is placed as the hardest is probably due to my lack of experience, but Mokou's last noncard is really tricky. MoF is probably only as far to the right as it is because I likewise have little experience with it. EoSD not included because I simply never play that game and probably couldn't give a good opinion.

To give an idea of how bored I am with SA Extra:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=11820

>>7534305
There are honestly a ton more difficult cards to capture in the ex stage of UFO than in MoF.

All of Kogasa's cards require strict attention, dodging Kanako's cards are almost mind numbingly boring (her non-card is the hardest pattern).

Nue has plenty of easy cards, but quite at least four reliably tough ones (Rainbow UFOs of terror, the last three seconds of her nightmare survival card, that bullshit card where she hides bullets behind the smog, and the last of the phases in her final card,

Suwako has three cards of notable difficulty (Froggy braves the elements and both survival cards).

2 of Nue's non-cards are suprisingly lethal--every one of Suwako's is painfully easy to dodge.

While I can reliably capture all of Koishi's cards to the point that the stage is pitiably easy, it still took the largest amount of tries and time to learn.

One way to objectively gauge one's difficulty at an EX stage is to compare the number of attempts against the EX midboss' first spellcard.

Kanako I've fought 27 times, Sanae over 60 times, and Kogasa over 80 times.

>>7534370
I can reliably capture everything Nue has, while I have yet to properly learn Suwako's last survival card. That card is literally the only reason it's not near the bottom. I should probably devote a few runs to it so I can finally stop derping in the last 4 seconds.

I didn't really make any attempt to objectively rank them, since I'm using criteria that most people wouldn't, and I have little experience with MoF as mentioned (though I agree that 99% of everything is incredibly easy). I can't really use your spell history count since I've played my favorites more often than others and I've had so many restarts for the sake of score (UFO Extra especially) that I've faced some midbosses hundreds of times. Something to note, in all of my UFO Extra runs that I actually complete, I go into Nue with no lives and bombs, and I perfect her almost every time. Everyone has their weaknesses, and I understand that my opinions are definitely in the minority.

>>7534370
I can reliably capture everything Nue has, while I have yet to properly learn Suwako's last survival card. That card is literally the only reason it's not near the bottom. I should probably devote a few runs to it so I can finally stop derping in the last 4 seconds.

I didn't really make any attempt to objectively rank them, since I'm using criteria that most people wouldn't, and I have little experience with MoF as mentioned (though I agree that 99% of everything is incredibly easy). I can't really use your spell history count since I've played my favorites more often than others and I've had so many restarts for the sake of score (UFO Extra especially) that I've faced some midbosses hundreds of times. Something to note, in all of my UFO Extra runs that I actually complete, I go into Nue with no lives and bombs, and I perfect her almost every time. Everyone has their weaknesses, and I understand that my opinions are definitely in the minority.

>>7534448
>>7534305
That's the best way to rank them if you can do it. I haven't played them enough to really know what's hard and what just seems hard.. but that looks right. Koishi and Nue's peak difficulty isn't that high after enough practice. And Nue definitely seems to have more crap that kills me suddenly than Koishi. I'll add that I think LLS and EoSD are on the easier side and GFW is on the harder side.

>>7534370
>While I can reliably capture all of Koishi's cards to the point that the stage is pitiably easy, it still took the largest amount of tries and time to learn.
This is how it goes, from what I've seen.

>>7534305
here's one thing I don't get at all. Why would a no death/ no bomb run in PCB Phantasm be easier than Extra? There a couple of actually easier Yukari spells, but the Ran mid-boss, Double Death Butterfly and the last three spells (DANKMAKU BOUNDED FIELD!!!) are exponentially more bullshit than the mediocre stuff of Ran

>>7534448
>, while I have yet to properly learn Suwako's last survival card.
You mean suwa war? that's an easy one.
I have problems with horrid river/froggy braves.

While you can reliably capture all of koishi's cards to the point that the stage is pitiably easy, it still took the largest amount of tries and time to learn. The reason sakuya got the proverbial shaft, is simply because maids are not that popular anymore.

>>7535020
Danmaku Bounded Field is one of her easiest spells once you know how to do it.

Oh yeah, wyu's so not a bitch and that is because when shit like this is posted in her forum it gets deleted so no one knows how bitchy and attack happy she is if she feels even slightly threatened by someone.

>>7535020
Because of this.

>>7535148
Every single time.

>>7535157
It's aimed, right? Sort of? It seemed like if I let myself go down I would lose every time, but if I stayed more up toward the middle I'd get it.

The main problem is I focus too much on the red bullets and stop seeing the blue ones.

>>7535085
Most of the time I find a perfect spot where I can stay still and rape 3/4 of Yukari's health bar before I have to move.

Other times I end using 3 bombs in that shit... It's the only part of the run where I bomb... well, sometimes I do in the part where those yellow bullet-spewing things appear.

Everything else is babby modo.

>>7535282
You're thinking BoLaD, not Yukari's Arcanum "Danmaku Bounded Field".

>>7535157
>Reimu is a single mother.

>>7535282
Lol at that shit written on the desk.

>>7535263
It depends on Ran's vertical movement, which is random and can ruin your day if she moves down too far. Both of those screenshots are from my pacifist runs, but they're good examples of the impossible situations it likes to hand out. The second one isn't even a case of being forced down too far, the bubbles just arranged themselves in an incredibly inconvenient way.

>>7535282
>Danmaku Bounded Field
>Yukari's health bar
Uh, are you thinking Border of Life and Death?

>>7535305
Danmaku bounded field is one of her easiest spells once I know how to do it.

>>7535327
One wonders just how much autism a single person can have.

>>7535326
>>7535305
Yep, sorry.

"Danmaku Bounded Field" is even easier.

>>7535332
What do other people do about wonders?

>>7535326
Oh huh I'm dumb/never played her that much. It felt like it was aimed relative to me but delayed from the slow bullets.

>>7535340
I can see where danmaku bounded field is even easier. Only autistic children from /a/v/b/ think the name field is more important than the post itself.

>>7535390
So what, do you just modify posts yourself? Or is it some sort of Markov chain? The latter would actually be kinda cool, but somehow I don't think you've done that.

>>7535399
But your highly scientific look at a random sample has convinced you I really don't want to go through 373 posts of unfunny, so you didn't do that yourself. How would you contrast those items?

>>7535436
Oho, so it is some sort of machine learning process kind of thing, eh? Interesting.
I take it you train it automatically with a script too, then. Do you distinguish between posts on /jp/ when training? Try to just take sentences of a certain length and such like that?

>>7535449
Don't worry about it, it's just some autistic manually spamming the board with a bot script.

>>7535454
Oh, I know, but he's got to generate the sentences somehow. And it almost seems like he actually answered my question just now, in a rather obscure sort of way.

>But your highly scientific look at a random sample has convinced you I really don't want to go through 373 posts of unfunny, so you didn't do that yourself.
Random sample I take to be a reference to the Markov decision process, and the not wanting to go through 373 posts of unfunny so you don't do it yourself is of course generating the text through some sort of program.
This is interesting stuff.

>>7535471

>>7535454
Is a bot

Of course, now that I think about it, that reply could have been another kind of answer. On the one hand, it is pretty responsive, so maybe he does do it manually. But then it could just be that since I mentioned a Markov chain in my post, it could've made that text be generated, maybe he starts it off with the post he's replying to...

Hmmm...

what the hell is happening in this thread

>>7535485
It looks like it looks for something in the sentence to respond to. I've noticed the bot posts seem to have at least something to do with what it replies to.
My best guess is it saw the word "posts" in your post and decided to find something else that said "posts". It seems to do this with it's other replies.

>>7535449
>>7535454
You can see this here too. You say script, it says script.