/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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I grouped with some TIEC members. They were all emoticon using faggots who admitted that they browse /v/ more than /jp/.

Never again. Shit guild.

>>7513084
So, exactly the same as Atelier and modern HG.

TIEC is mostly /jp/?

>>7513087
If I had to rank them it'd be Hotglue at first place since they actually achieve shit and only a few of their members are faggots. Atelier is fucking horrible and worse than TIEC.

>>7513102
I'm sure there are plenty of other guilds full of retarded pubbers or BRs that "achieve shit" too, it doesn't really count for much.

TIEC has the ironic duo so it's automatically the best.

>>7513102
>actually achieving shit
Doing it wrong. Neo HG member detected.

Funny, I just uninstalled an hour ago. See you next flavor.

>>7513119
The game kind of boring, you just stand in one spot and attack.

>>7513119
Are you the guy that blew all of his gold on breaking a weapon?

I know the game can be boring at times, however, I find questing with friends, as well as socializing with the guild keeps the game somewhat interesting.

I get a kick or two out of watching the pubs attempt to kill one of the world bosses, It gets me every time.

>>7513124
YOU just stand in one spot and attack. There are several classes that are quite able to kite mobs and play in a mobile fashion. Don't blame the game because of your terrible play style.

>>7513142
You in TIEC.
Why sage own thread.

>>7513153
Am I supposed to take this as proof that not everyone in Take it Easy is actually from /jp/?

>>7513150
>not playing tank or cleric
I'm not going to party you.

>>7513150
kiting isn't even necessary in this game so it's still boring as fuck

>>7513160
and I said that where? This is especially amusing since I mostly play a tank.

>>7513160
Clerics can use life cure to keep themselves alive while AOE'ing down mobs, I've seen it done before, and have done it myself.

Also, I believe that anon is mentioning his grinding tactics, rather than which class he uses in a dungeon, which can easily be switched thanks to the "change class" feature.

>>7513176
Why sage? You in TEIC.

Bards are so ridiculous. It's just so hard to play classes that mostly have to single kill after playing a bard.

>>7513119
But we love you.

>>7513182

Why not?

I doubt some of my posts are interesting enough for those who don't even play Eden Eternal, and there are other people who are already bumping the thread.

>>7513171
>kiting
>not necessary
So I see you stopped playing before getting out of the tutorial areas? I'm sure kiting isn't necessary when mobs you fight have debuffs that let them hit you for double or quadruple their normal damage, stacking debuffs that fry your character if they pile too high because you just stood there in the AoE like an idiot, debuffs that make you heal the boss for thousands of HP, but no, no, certainly you can just stand there and take it like the pro gamer you are. Truly we are in awe of your ability to do the impossible.

>>7513171
I have to agree. I leveled from 45-50 using the bard/eng solo trick and it was boring as fuck, but no one wanted to gq in the Arid Wilds so I had little choice.
Group grinding is so much more fun that I really wished I just pugged it. That soloing steak killed my interest for at least a few days.

>>7513190
Unless you are using the trick to solo dungeons bards are so overrated. Engs and Mages both crush them in AoE ability and you shouldn't even be getting hit on normal mobs. Where they are really OP is in group grinding as pullers and full party healers.
Hunters beat everyone in a situation where you are competing for mobs with their DoT->any shot 2 hit kills.

>>7513201
Not him but the faster you kill the boss the less time you waste.
You also sound like a no life if you played that much into the game

>>7513201
Do you even know what kiting is

>>7513216
and if the tank dies and the party wipes because the tank didn't know what he was doing, this doesn't waste even more time than doing it correctly?

>>7513222
I'm glad you addressed my argument instead of insulting me.

>>7513212
Can you show me a video or tell me how to do the trick? The dungeon is venice right?

>>7513231
>tank
>dies
You just lost all creditability, clearly you don't know how to play the game. Bump for all to see.

>>7513212
I'll have to agree with you on that first part. I usually play with 1-2 other people, so much easier to quest, and so much fun as well.

As an engineer, you can just aoe mobs like crazy, to the point that I've actually tanked a couple Dungeons as a mecha, making the dungeons go by much quicker.

>>7513216
and if the tank dies and the party wipes because the tank didn't know what he was doing, this doesn't waste even more time than doing it correctly?

I'm glad you addressed my argument instead of insulting me.

>>7513222
that would be using slows, roots and stuns to keep the mob from reaching the target it is aggroed onto. this is typically used when attempting to directly tank the target is akin to suicide and is often swapped to when the tank is or will be having difficulty surviving a section of the boss fight.

>>7513102
Why do you hate them so much, Kritz? Did they leave you out or something?

I thought I'd be able to avoid all these horrible so-called /jp/ers in Hotglue by joining Atelier. That went wonderfully.

I tried taking it a step further in OB and went with Take it Easy only to find all the horrible members from Atelier now in it instead. I can't fucking win. I'm now in a pub guild, thanks a fucking lot, /jp/.

>>7513216
>>7513231
Just chill out guys.

>>7513245
Didn't you just post that.

>>7513254
meh, I'm bored.

>>7513254
Pokemon?
>>7513253
Pub?

>>7513259
yes, the first half was post 7513231, but I forgot to address 7513222 properly (the second half of the post), so I deleted, corrected, and reposted.

>>7513253
If you follow that course to its logical conclusion, that would mean that Atelier is fine now.

Unfortunately, it's pretty empty. You're welcome to join if you'd like, but there are at most six people on at a given time, and it's usually less than that. On the bright side, I don't have to see emotes.

>>7513245
Except in this game what tanks do is not traditional kiting, like the first person was talking about.
What you are talking about is how tanks abuse the terrible pathing glitches to prevent being hit.

Continue on, but it's an important distinction to make because of the difference in what was being implied by the first post, and only a very small number of games would classify it as kiting vs abuse.

bumping for a TIEC circlejerk

>>7513279
I can agree that the pathing in EE is weird at times, to the point of being abuse-able, but I was talking about traditional kiting (using precise shot, winter chill, kneecap, stuns).

>>7513245
Right. Kiting isn't necessary in this game. I've only see tanks kite the dinos in Ulta and that was a dungeon mob.

>>7513303
Kiting with winter chill is a pain. You have to cast it 3 times before the slow is big enough to let you effectively run the mob around. Even when opening with snow blizzard, the mob usually reaches you for a hit before its fully slowed.

>>7513306
>listing an example that is counter to your argument
So it isn't necessary... except for when it is? The last boss of Malice has a similar ability that can crush any reasonably geared tank. It is necessary to avoid hits or outright kite in the game as you progress further into it.

>kiting is not important
Yeah sure if you are a lvl50 tank fully spec in defense and superior +8 gears.
I like to see a generic alt tank 2 wolfeye giant without kiting.

>>7513326
You don't need to kite that guy. You just move away from his aoe and then get back to tanking.

chat on eden's website is hilarious, so many people desperate for attention

>>7513315
Mages can kill anything their level with 3 aoes, why would they ever use winter's chill except on a boss.
Hellfire -> Snow -> Snow if your staff is shit. Hellfire/Snow -> Snow if have a good blue.

>>7513326
Running out of aoe isn't kiting. While you are better off kiting some mobs, for the normal 'hard hitters' like Giants or Dinos a ranged class works better since 99% of tanks suck at it (yes, even in HG) and end up getting hit often enough anyway that healers are just spamming heals. Or you can use other tricks like Illu/BD.

>>7513376
Yes, thats why I don't kite mobs. Its so much easier to just AOE mobs down. I was simply pointing out that kiting as a mage is tricky, should the situation arise for it.

I haven't lurked /jp/ since late 2008, downloading now. Guess I'll play with you guys since I've no-one else to play with.

Few questions: What's the most OP class?
What's the userbase like?
How grindy is it?(I don't mind grind because I've got nothing better to do with my time anyway.
Does it have a cash-shop and are the CS items OP(gamebreaking)?

Is Hotglue on Prius too? I need friends to play with ;_;

Kiting is pretty important. There's also +Move Speed equipment/spells that really shapes the kiting dynamics.

The point of the game isn't to idly stand in one spot attacking. There are many play styles that gain exp and finish quests significantly faster, and the difference between bad and good players is very noticeable.

Don't know anyone in the other /jp/ and /v/(?) guilds, but Hotglue has been one of the best guilds I've have the privileged of being in. Everyone helps each other and there's surprisingly little bickering.

>>7513406
>there's surprisingly little bickering.
>If you are unable to take it easy, please leave quickly.
They went to Atelier and TIEC.

>>7513397
>What's the most OP class?
For what purpose? Levelling: probably magician
>What's the userbase like?
xD :3 <3333333333333333333
>How grindy is it?(I don't mind grind because I've got nothing better to do with my time anyway.
Didn't seem that bad to me, but I'm a chronic completionist. Running through the quest chain for each area and a couple odd repeatable quests levels you up well enough.
Does it have a cash-shop and are the CS items OP(gamebreaking)?
Yes, not particularly.

HG is full at the moment.

>>7513397
Best farming/grinding class is Bard. Cleric is pretty good as well. Both have AoEs and heals, allowing for some decent herding.

There's a significant amount of grinding that starts in your 30s, but it's surprisingly entertaining because it's rather fast paced for an mmo. No where near as many skills to use as WoW, but most everything has no/very low cooldown, making your choice of move being more important than what moves aren't on cooldown. Lots of instant casts and most spells average 1-2 seconds to cast, then affected by cast haste.

The game also breaks down stats into some categories I've never seen implemented before in an MMO, basically just further separation of melee and magic. There's a separate crit rating for melee and magic, and attack/cast speed as well. There's also G-Heal and P-Heal. G(eneral)-Heal increases your healing output while P(ersonal)-Heal increases your healing received (tank stat).

It's not a strong variation from the typical free MMO, but it's designed pretty well. Little things like auto-routing to quests, NPCs, and enemies really help complete the experience. Definitely worth giving a try, if you don't like it by level 30 (which takes 2~ days), then it's not for you.

Oh, and don't be discouraged by how long some levels take, the level cap is only 50.

PROTIP: If your tank is worth shit they can tank through the boss debuffs without losing threat.

I've tanked every boss up to the 41 dungeon in Avila many times without kiting with my bard friend healing and pubs in every other slot, if you think any strategy other than tank and spank is even remotely necessary in this game you're overthinking encounters that are as easy as spamming taunt and music of life.

>>7513087

Atelier? No. It's actually pretty quiet there which is why I settled down in that guild quite nicely. I'd say it's much more cozy than being in Hotglue.

Hotglue proper on the other hand has more online members at any given point in time compared to Atelier. I've seen a few emoticons used here and there but only from a select few. The only thing I didn't like about it is that it's... too loud I'd say. Plus, the guild being popular, random people come to you and talk to you. So yeah, being a quietfag, being in HG proper really didn't sit that well with me. In any case, I can't take it easy in HG proper. You'd have to be fully autistic to pull that off.

I don't support the use of emoticons, but Jesus Christ, you guys treat it as such a huge thing. Were your parents murdered by them or something?

>>7513394
They have teleport and you can easily get +20% movespeed so they can be very good at it but you need to stack cast speed.
Check youtube for TW videos of mages kiting dungeons like bards.

I'll still stick to the fact that if you can't slow the mob (a boss) using the pathing to prevent being hit is closer to exploiting than kiting, but dodging aoe is neither. That being said after so many runs group grinding the level 45 dungeon I swear Dancer/Monk/Thief are better at tanking than real tanks. It's very obvious as a healer that EVA is a more powerful stat than defense.
In the level 48 dungeon you need a tank for the snap aggro, not the def.

>most OP class?
Hunter for single targets. Mage and Engineer for aoe solo. Cleric and Bard for being cheap on HP pots, but slower and requiring multiple spawns to have a decent kill rate. Yes, I am including the 'op' heavy metal. You are wasting your time aoeing anything less than 5 mobs with it. If you can do 15-20 in the area it's a whole different story, where Bard then Engineer take the cake.
Best case is just to be a Mage and find a Bard to gather mobs for you while you kill them all. Have fun completing guild quests in 10 minutes as a duo.

>>7513443
They also have an attention whore Trina that like to go "Hey guize I am grindan naked now".
But that is close beta and I am not sure if she is even in it in open beta.

>>7513442
You should tank and spank your Cleric for not keeping you de-debuffed. The game's only easy if you have a proper group. Haven't had any difficulty in a guild group, but filling slots in pub groups usually ends in disappointment.

You sound like you usually tank for your groups, hence why it's not difficult.

>>7513443
I'm in hotglue and I haven't said a single thing in the guild chat. Random people don't come to talk to me either. But I'll agree with you that a select few do act like they came from gaia.

What's the general consensus on Martial Artist? I have 3 levels until I hit level 40(Already have 35 in Thief), and I want to try out Martial Artist but I'm not sure if it's a class I should invest in.

>>7513560

Which guild are you referring to good sir? Your use of pronouns confuses me.

>>7513551
I can typically take it easy about the emoticons, but when someone is using them to end every sentence or to replace words, it grates my nerves. Mostly I find that it has a useful correlation to the maturity of the person.

De-saging this thread because you're being autists.

>>7513551
Emoticons is only the beginning. Once everyone quits the FotM and settles in irc, you'll have Democrats VS Republicans, blogging, greentexting, >implying, >mfw, hey guise check out my katana and underage people revealing themselves.

Point is, it's hard for people to take it easy around them. I just chose to ignore them until the next MMO.

>>7513574
(interpreting)
>But that [was in] close[d] beta and I am not sure if (Trina) is even in (Hotglue) in [the] open beta.

What is this bard trick that you speak of, I would like to know more, as I am a bard, and know not of this trick to farming, and would like to use it in order to get to a higher level.

>>7513580
Here is a fine example of someone that doesnt belong.
>>7513574
She is the self proclaim princess in Atelier.

>>7513580
>sage hurts a thread

Those are proper sage.

>>7513575
i heard its a pretty op class

Music of Life can't even keep up with boss AoE for melee dps at 48+. Duo Healing makes everything much easier since Bard and Cleric are complementary.
I will always swap to a Cleric if single healing a boss though, since it is just so much easier. Shaman is pretty good too, but I like purifying wind better especially since you can buff then class swap.

>>7513592

De-saging again because you're being an autist elitist.

being arbitrarily esoteric for the purpose of stroking your ego and being in a secret club (what JP does all day if you lurk for more than 5 minutes) is silly as hell

>>7513561
There are a number of annoying debuffs which cannot be cleansed. It's usually the annoying ones (heals boss for ~4k per hit) rather than the lethal ones (taking 700 damage every time you hit), but I would imagine that this will change in the harder dungeons.

>>7513592
soooo funny

>>7513560
I have no idea why he left hotglue and settled in Atelier. No one even pays attention to him from what I see in the chat.

>>7513575
Great in pvp or 1 on 1. Lack of heavy armor means it's hard for you to tank dungeons unless you have good gear. You can still kite and survive quite a few hits due to str and hp licenses.

>>7513601
I heard from someone today that Engineer can debuff those that Cleric/Bard can't. Know anything about that?

>>7513613
de-debuff*

>>7513617

Forgot your sage chief. Better delete your post and re-post it with a sage to meet marissa standards.

>>7513622
shhh, it's a trap.

>>7513613
Engineer can strip boss buff which is completely different from healers. They can take off annoying buffs or procs.
Any skill that says 'cannot be canceled' no one can do anything about.

I'll get an Iris Jewel one day.

Question, I got a waifu/lover early on for the experience bonus thing, but that player doesn't seem to log in and play anymore.

If I break the relationship does that mean I will lose all luv coins? As in have to start from 0 again? I wish to get that movement speed skill eventually so I can reach +131% movement speed. It'll be a pain if I have to lose 20 luv coins due to breaking up.

Non-faggot here, just looking to min/max with the rest of you and quest. I've played too many MMOs for my own good. Used to play WoT with /jp/.

Clan: TakeItEasyCo
Server: Aquamarine

If i'm not mistaken.

Seduce is the best CC ever in this game.

Apparently /v/ thinks they can take us in this game.

I fucking lol'd.

What server is everyone on?

>>7513717
That's nice. Could you go back to /v/? You don't seem to be taking it easy.

Beat me to it

>>7513721
We're too busy grinding to care.

>>7513721

When you're not from /jp/ it's fairly obvious

Kinda surprised you guys play shit like this and not APB which has far better customization (my friend looks like cirno, has a cirno car, has tomboy blasting from his car in-game, and has the same theme playing when he kills people).... oh right APB is about skill not time invested and cash shops like every other game JP plays because they have no skill :3c

>>7513756
Skill in APB? Well... I guess it... might be difficult for some people to find the cash shop and choose a good win-gun. I guess that qualifies as skill.