/jp/ - Otaku Culture

fuck off scum

I don't care. Take it to /a/ or /b/.

Understand what? If you want to change your life don't post about it on an imageboard, just fucking do it. Do you need someone to hold your hand or talk you down from changing?

No we don't, but glad you have the motivation to change in to what you want to, but don't go bothering us about it.

see you again next week

I don't understand all of that. But if you want that, then go after it then.

I understand that you want attention. Maybe you'll get it if you post your dick on /soc/ with the rest of the trash.

How the fuck does having a job relate to being attracted to 3D or being able to talk to people. You seem to think that NEET and normalfag are polar opposites on some sort of normality continuum, when that isn't the case.

>>7505058
This.
>>7505060
And this.

It's really nice that you want to change, but you have to respect those who don't.

>>7505062
I just decided to see what on earth was on there. There's a trap thread.
>>>/soc/5231237

>>7505074
Not as if it matters what type of person you are as long as you don't... Don't ask don't tell.

No one's stopping you but yourself.

I am a neet, but i am not a hikkomori

>>7505116
It comes as a package. Stop lying to yourself.

>>7505125
Package? Are you telling me that if you're NEET you're also hikikomori? If so, that's not the case and I'm proof of that. I enjoy a slow-paced life mostly by myself, going outside to enjoy the sights and the food.

No you don't, reality isn't a cakewalk.
Seeing all your hard work go down the drain is not fun, getting back up isn't easy.
There is only disappointment and misery waiting for you.
Enjoy your fantasy for as long as it lasts.
You can have a few of those things you mentioned and still be able to live as a NEET, but the more you have the harder it'll be to go back when things get rough,
But go ahead, this is one of those things you have to experience for yourself before you can believe it.

>>7505125
No it doesn't. A NEET can go around and have fun with his friends while still having no job and leeching off his parents.

On the other hand, a hikki can also be a prolific writer or artist, he could be managing his business without ever leaving his home or seeing other people. Think of Sean Connery in Finding Forrester.

Good luck OP.

I've been trying for 5 years.

>>7505054
If you don't have any old friends from highschool or uni.
then second best way to find new friends is trough a job or try some sport

No, you don't.
You want to support yourself financially, but you don't want the soul-crushing workload that's required of you to support yourself.
You want to have someone to talk to, but you don't want the constant social obligations that you'll never be free from.
You want to feel the warmth of a woman, but you don't want to spend the ridiculous amount of time required to maintain a relationship, which still wouldn't negate the risks of it all going down the drain when she decides to cheat on you.

>>7505076

>but you have to respect those who don't.

>respect parasites who don't work

>respect people who are so shortsighted that they can't see where their path will place them when they're 50, or how getting on their own two feet will only become more difficult with age

Respect is a privilege, not a right. It has to be earned.

A willing bum who leeches off of their parents isn't anymore worthy of respect than a willing bum who leeches off of the welfare system. The former just has access to nicer things.

That "be nice and tip-toe around offending anybody" crap that some people stand by isn't really respect, either.

If you really want it, go make it happen. Otherwise you're full of shit. /jp/ isn't your personal help group, go post this on a support forum.

I just want a job I'd enjoy.

>>7505202
Nobody cares. If you want to be normal, go be normal somewhere else. Reported.

It's cool but you see this is really a summation of YOU, OP. You are a fucking quitter. How can you succeed anywhere in life if you couldn't even stick to being a NEET? The easiest thing to be. BAWWW IT'S TOO HARD. Well suck it up faggot. You think we all like playing Touhous and Erotic Visual Novels all day? You think we like debating whether a fictional character enjoys rice or fish? Yes we do but we don't give up when things get hard. So I don't want to see you go. I want to see you in /jp/ fucking sageing and reporting like you own the damn place because that's how winning is done.

>>7505238
This guy's got the right idea.

>Guys, I don't want to be NEET anymore.
>I want to be able to support myself financially.

Just get a job and don't spend more than you earn, pretty simple.

>I want to be able to like and talk to people.
>I want to be sexually attracted to 3D

These will never happen, you missed the part of your life where you develop social skills. If you pursue these, you will be miserable.

>>7505257
It's never too late to develop your social skills. It may be too late for attraction to 3d though.

>>>/adv/
>>>/soc/

>>7505054
Get rid of your trust issues. Also, you don't need to stop posting on /jp/.

>>7505226

>wants respect simply for existing

Nope.

You know that judgmental air that people direct towards you when they catch wind of what you do with your life? You deserve it.

That trashy redneck with poor hygiene that works at the McDonalds across the street with no plans to ever attend college and spends all of his money on drugs is more respectable than you are and contributes more to society than you do.

When you're a 60 year old with no income and no job experience, you'll fully deserve your status as a dirty homeless person who has to steal shit to survive.

>>7505269
Whoa, sounds like someone is a little too American for this world!

Stop replying, retards.

>>7505277
Or else what?

>>7505238
I still love you sometimes /jp/

>>7505269
>more respectable

Only according to other people. If you are unaffected by praise (depressed people tend to be like this), this matters not.

A better path is to respect yourself regardless of whether other people do. Then you can do whatever you like.

>>7505292
I am affected by praise.

But not by the praise of normalfags. That's why I'm trying to learn to draw and make music so I can get respect from the people I want.

>>7505292

And what exactly about you is worthy of self-respect?

You're a parasite who's sole accomplishment is being a drain on his parent's finances. You have an unearned and undeserved sense of entitlement. Your lifestyle will inevitably lead you to a time where you're no longer able to enjoy your hobbies to their fullest due to poverty. You've let your fears and procrastination conquer you. You've contributed nothing to society except hardship on the parents that raised you.

There are few on the face of this Earth less deserving of respect than you.

A truly better path is to become a person who's at least a little responsible and who's path is self-sustainable. If you're just a working man who's standing on his own two feet and using the money that he's earned through his work to live the life that he wants, nobody can really criticize you for what you've chosen to be.

>>7505321
In the first place, it sounds much better to be praised for creative efforts, than it sounds to be praised for meeting the minimum standards for not being considered a leech on society.

>Oh great, you managed to get a McJob, at very least that makes you better than those people who live on welfare. Good job, man, I'm proud of you

>>7505353
>How in the world can you respect yourself if others don't respect you?
This is what your post boils down to.

>>7505358

>"Hey son, don't you think you that its time for you to get a job? Finances are tight, and I really want to see you become self-sufficient and do well in life. I don't want to throw you out on your face, but..."

>"Fuck you, dad, I'm drawing anime. Go tell mom to hurry up on dinner."

>"Hey, nice picture!"

>"Thanks! Now that's some worthy praise."

Alternatively:

>"Christ, I'm getting tired of my money going towards supporting lazy faggots like this guy. Couldn't that money go towards teacher's paychecks or something instead?"

>"Haha, look at you faggots over there working while I leech off of your income. But its okay, I draw anime for the internet."

ITT

>>7505366

What exactly is it that you find respectable about yourself?

The fact that you're "content"?

You do realize that you're total dumbass who's walking a long road to ruin, right? Ma and pa can't support your forever. Unless you an hero, you'll likely outlive them. And you'll probably be going into your old age at that point, too. Your continued happiness is also completely dependent on their goodwill. You could be stuck with your current PC a decade from now, and if you ever have the urge to do anything, you'll always to ask permission from them first.

You also appear to be a complete self-centered douchebag who doesn't care about the hardships of his parents.

>>7505399
I respect myself because penis.

You don't deserve respect because penis.

>>7505611

Too bad he's right. Society holds pretty much all of you in the highest contempt. Self-esteem and respect are bad things if these attitudes are not shown towards you by others. What matters the most is pleasing society first - it has made everything possible for you up until now, the least you can do is give everything for it.

>>7505733
>Society holds pretty much all of you in the highest contempt.

Oh noes

>>7505733
Let us partake in the game of dicks.

>>7505734

Actually yes, 'oh noes', as society might not feel obligated to look after parasites when times get rough for them.

You want to continue living? Contribute back, and take as little from society from then on as you can, while contributing as much as possible.

ITT: People who don't know how to take it easy

>>7505733
>Self-esteem [...] are bad things if these attitudes are not shown towards you by others.
>self-esteem
>by others

You should know already that real life is one big NTR eroge.

>>7505735
Set the stage and lay the tissues.
My anus can't await the froth!
A manful battle of the pricks
Shall be staged devoid of cloth.

May the best man win this slaughter.
And without a doubt, victory's infuse
Will bear a sweet and lovely daughter
Out the ass of those who lose.

Now, start the dance!
Swing your lance!
Take a chance!
Advance, advance, advance!

And tear
And bite
And rip
And smash
Blood running down your thighs.
And only then 'tween corpse of men
You see through my disguise.

>>7505738
>take as little from society from then on as you can, while contributing as much as possible.

This sounds like a pretty bad deal, really.

>>7505733
Modern day society is shit.
Women are sluts and bitches and are even more self entitled than /jp/, yet no one looks down on them for being that way.
People can get away with anything if they have money or looks, and no one gives a shit.
Why should I have to care about this society.

>>7505738
Nobody chose for society to do any of this. Destroying who you are to take part in a cruel shitstorm where people kick each others teeth in to get ahead, destroy friendships for money etc is an abomination. Even more simply, fuck dealing with the uncaring, egotistical people out there. I always think of the scene from Steppenwolf with the university lecturer when it comes to having to deal with people.

I would rather abuse and manipulate it or totally reject it as much as I can and scrape by surviving as best I can.

Also consider how manipulative things such as culture and patriotism are.

>You want to continue living?

Sure!

>Contribute back

Ah, I see, well, the thing is, you know...

>and take as little from society from then on as you can, while contributing as much as possible.

Wait, what? No deal.

>>7505760

You mean women finally begin to approach a level outside of 'utter chattel' and you, in your absolutely overprivileged position as a (most likely white) male shit yourself realizing that your undeserved and unwarranted power might be facing just the slightest threat? Jesus Christ, grow the fuck up. No wonder women hate you: you're a piece of shit who merely wants a woman as an object for your sexual gratification. Good thing your diseased mind dies with you.

>>7505764

Wow congrats for getting some easy cynicism and trying to pass it off as insight. Something you lack. You're a pathetic coward who seems more afraid of being hurt by even the slightest social obligation than anything else, so you automatically grab onto the very worst incidents and essentialize from them. You are a social and intellectual coward with nothing to offer. Grow up.

I started working full time yesterday, after two months of living a pretty much hikki lifestyle.
Feels bad man. Spending 9 hours a day in an office and having to interact inane smalltalk with normals all day is awful.

>>7505784
You offer nothing but ad hominem. I may be cynical but that doesn't mean I am incorrect. Society is horrible and people can be fucking awful to deal with. Are you saying it isn't and the world is filled with people that are a joy to deal with?

>>7505792
Yeah yeah yeah, they made a sitcom about that exact experience. Just muscle your way through it.

>>7505803

Society has some good people, a very small number of bad people, and mostly a bunch of people who just want to get through their lives and accept that they owe everything to society, and thus seek to contribute to it in some fashion. I never said society was absolutely perfect (but ti's certainly better than isolation and parasitism) but if you want to get better, you have to get into it: you cannot hope to change society from without. Don't want to change society? Don't complain about it. You lose that privilege.

>>7505054

save for (only fagglets use that)
expect for
>I want to be sexually attracted to 3D.
as the'y're the only ones uncensored i can fap to =__=

Why would you want to be attracted to 3D...? You're implying that you're not attracted. That means you're free. But you want to be chained again? All the other points are minor compared to this.

/jp/ is not, and was never, receptive to /a/-level "WHAT IS IT LIKE TO HOLD A WOMAN IN YOUR ARMS SO RONERY ;_;" threads. We are not closet normalfags that secretly long to be accepted by sluts, fratfaggots and pseudo-intellectual college scum. We are NEETs that have chosen our path of parasitism of our own accord and have no need for 3d people beyond how much we can use and steal from them. If you don't understand this, then you don't belong here and need to go back to /a/, /b/, /v/, /soc/ or whatever terrible board spawned you.

Sure is obvious troll in this thread.

>>7505784
I hate doing this but
>Implying women aren't the over privileged once.
80% of all homeless are men.
Women can do no wrong in this society. They have all the same rights as men (probably even more) but no responsibility to go with it.

>No wonder women hate you
No one hates me, most people love me and I can make friends withouth even trying.
I just see this shitty society for what it is and it's only getting worse not better.

Oh, you get some points for effort though.

>>7505816
It is because people only want to get through their lives that society can never change. They do have assets tied up in the shit, they may have to support kids or they may just want money and a house. These people won't want society to change, they have too much to lose or perhaps they think they have a lot to gain from society. As long as the current situation is what it is I am skeptical there is anything anyone can do to change society.

I'm too tired to keep arguing about this but I'll admit I don't know what the solution is, either for myself or society. It could well be this society is a symptom of a larger disease (human nature).

Seriously, this society and normals are actually more neurotic than the average /jp/edo.

Ok, here's the way I see life.
People work their whole lives to save up enough money so they can maybe enjoy a few years of their life before they die, right?
While we simply skip the working part and go straight to the enjoying life part.
We get more out of life than majority of normalfags.

I understand, although I am not doing as badly as you probably are (I actually seeked help when my anxiety problems got too bad so I never "dropped out" of school - I'll be able to continue next winter or when I can if everything goes well)
About friends and women, I am in no hurry, but hopefully I'll be able to make some friends when I enter school again. Considering the courses I'll be taking I should meet people with similar interests as mine. If I'll manage to do the things I'd like to do, I'll probably meet someone whom I'll have a crush on - maybe then I'll get a girlfriend.
Everything should go well since I am not exactly bad with people, just very afraid of going out and doing things. I don't dislike most of them either.
I never understood how todays people were so horrible as 4chan told me, the society sucks though, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't try to act nicely unlike the not-so-nice people. Or maybe it really isn't so bad where I live.

Non-hikki university student.

Stop lumping all this shit together. Getting a job is easy compared to loving 3D.

>>7505848

And all of the upper crust of society is men too, but apparently you're happy just to cry poor when it suits you. Additionally those guys are homeless due to - get this - other men. Additionally, a NEET lecturing anybody on 'responsibility' is the height of irony and hypocrisy. You don't get to play that card which only exists in your head because you're fucking retarded.

>>7505852

Yes everybody is as pathetic as you and sees society as one great big bank which either fucks you in debt collection or gets robbed

You're a pethtic coward grasping at straws to hide from actually taking on any responsibility.

>>7505816
>you cannot hope to change society from without.
Most people can not change society. The Gandis or Caesars or M.L. Kings are rare and you'll not find them on /jp/.
Trying to change society is an unwinnable battle for /jp/ anons. You're asking them to do something they can't.

>>7505896

Stop ascribing to great man history: these guys didn't suddenly achieve shit because they were Supermen Among The Ants, they got shit done because they were able to convince other people to go along with them. All of their power came from being able to relate to and talk to others: beyond this, they might as well have been completely impotent. They owed everything to society, just like you do.

>>7505896

That's how I feel about myself. I want to change these problems, yet I realize I'm no better than society. What to do? I don't even know. I hope I find that answer one day.

>>7505908
Not very good at logic, are you?

>>7505908
>they got shit done because they were able to convince other people to go along with them.
It's called charisma. You are either born with this or you aren't. This isn't something you can learn. A random person can have all the best PR people on the world working for them, they'll never be able to get people to follow them.
So yes, they were "Supermen Among The Ants".

>>7505908
Shouldn't it be about time you make yourself useful for society as well, if you owe everything to it, instead of wasting time on the internet?

You can start by getting out of /jp/.

Putting the needs of society over those of the individual is morally wrong. Society isn't even something that objectively exists. My life will be spent with my own interests taking precedence over all others. To live any other way is foolish.

>>7505919

Wrong again: Martin Luther managed to shift the course of European history greatly while himself being a fat autist with an enormous scat fetish who prided himself on besting the devil by shitting himself

Additionally he was so uncharismatic that he failed to win a stacked debate against a jewish rabbi - doesn't come any less charismatic than this

Caeser most likely had epilepsy and seeing your general turn himself into a flailing drooling retard at a moment's notice is not the sort of thing that inspires charisma

M.L King drew far more upon his training as a preacher than any inherent characteristic within himself.

It's called public speaking and debating: learn it, you human wreck. Stop inventing excuses after the fact.

>>7505917
I also feel the same way. I just want people to be nicer to each other really. I don't know either really.

Oh man, just look at how mad this kid is getting that he can't provoke /jp/.

nokosage out of pity.

>>7505939
Not the guy you are replying to but the entire foundation of your argument is logically flawed too. You still haven't addressed this.

>>7505942

That's sort of my goal as well. For people to embrace what beauty exists within themselves instead of embracing hatred. Perhaps I'm simply naive to want that though.

>>7505958

You wouldn't mind pointing it out then rather than simply pouting about how shit isn't going your way?

>>7505965
Why would he help you when you won't help anyone but yourself?

>>7505962
I think we feel the same way actually and I also think I have naive ideals. I'm kind of too embarrassed to even say everything I could say about my "ideals."

Love is the most important thing, but I guess everyone is too busy and neurotic to really open themselves up to the world.

>>7505981

I'm not completely sure about my ideals as well, I've got some basic ideas but that's it. I'm simply a simple minded man that knows nothing and does nothing. I believe love is what matters as well, and it's best never to forget that.

>>7505939
>he was so uncharismatic
If he was as uncharismatic as you say he wouldn't have anyone following him. the same goes for all the other examples you give.
Having defects doesn't change the fact that you are or aren't charismatic. Hitler was charismatic as fuck and he looked like a faggot.

>>7506016

Just a master of public speaking, a skill just about anybody could learn if they but applied themselves.

>>7506024
Nice argument.

>>7506031

I understand you're being a sarcastic babyman, but thank you anyway.

Just apply yourself. I know the idea of putting effort into anything beyond masturbating is anethema to you, but seriously.

>>7506037
Is this your way of trying to get a 100+ reply thread?

>>7506037
>Just apply yourself

Why?

>>7506024
So an uncharismatic person can make a great public speaker with public speaking lessons, to the extent they can change the foundations of society and start a revolution? An uncharismatic person?

It's obvious how hard you've been trying to troll but really, this is absurd.

>>7506037
Do you also believe a blind man could win sharpshooting contests?

>>7506053

The situation also has to be right: it must be a period of extreme upheaval and the discontent must already be there.

But apart from that, yes. An 'uncharismatic' man can be made to become so.

>I want to be able to support myself financially.
By spending 35+ hours a day doing stuff you don't actually like? Not worth the effort. Unless you find a really high paying job. Which you won't.

>I want to be able to like and talk to people.
Not worth the effort.

>I want to be sexually attracted to 3D.
Not worth the effort.

>I hate being an hikki. I want to be healthy.
You can work out in a basement as well.

>>7505054
LOLLLL WHAT THE HELLLLLL
>mfw

>>7506065
OK, so your argument has changed from epileptic autists led revolutions and were uncharismatic to uncharismatic people were able to become charismatic and they could change society in times of unrest?

Good night /jp/ I hope you all have sweet dreams and stay dry.

I just wanted to say I hope no one's seriously listening to the shit-for-brains in this thread and letting his societal dogmas brainwash you.

>>7506092
>no dogma unless we say it's OK
/jp/ is full of idiots.

/jp/ - /soc/ /b/

>>7506099
That's what being part of a group is, what people allow is what will happen.

>>7506092
Nah, I'm just surprised he puts in so much effort, on /jp/ of all places. He'd have much more RAAAAAAGEEE FFFFFFFUUUUU that he wants on /a/ or some other board on his mental level.

>>7506099
That's exactly what a dogma is. A belief held by a group. Your group.

One that our group, if you don't mind me saying, chooses to refuse.

>>7505994
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERbvKrH-

I always liked this.

Hi gais, what's going on in this thread?

>>7506109

Link isn't working sadly. Malformed video ID.

>>7506105
If he wants to act like a jackass, let him. I'm all for free rein.

Which is sort of ironic, because that's what he's arguing against.

>>7506110
I think you mean.... what's going on in this BREAD?

Amirite? Amirite??

>>7506092
No-one would be taking him seriously. I know I'm taking it real easy.

>>7506114
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERbvKrH-GC4

>>7506114
Sorry, seems like >>7506121 corrected me before I could?...

>>7506121
It's not like many people have a choice. They're fully aware of the contradiction, that you have to miss the best years of your life to enjoy life, the inanity of it all. But they also know they'll wither away if they don't conform and take the steps necessary to get an acceptable job. It's not like they have a choice... They're working to live.

>>7506131
Google is psychic, man.

>>7506121
>>7506131

Now that I see, I feel like I understand a bit better, what I wish to do. Not as if I can accomplish it, but at least I can see what I can do about it. And enjoy the ride as well without worrying about the end.

>>7506137
I worry that many people aren't aware of it and they do miss out. Look how many have dead dreams, mid-life crises, empty marriages/relationships/families. Even the people who dress fashionably and hide who they are to "fit in." It makes me feel sad.

Meaninglessness is the key to taking it easy.

>>7505784
>in your absolutely overprivileged position as a (most likely white) male
Shit, it's ridiculous how "white male" has become an insult.

Somebody once said that /jp/ was just a group of eternally buttfrustrated people desperately pretending to take it easy and failing.

>>7506175
Not the guy you're replying to, but I've never really cared for the philosophy of the matter. I want to live, live a comfortable life at that, and I can't do that without money. I'm not low enough to rely on illegal activities, either. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing but pure hatred for this all of this. This entire process is like a curse society imposes on you the moment you're born. But you know what? It's the only sure thing I've got. So fuck it! What else can I do?

>>7506181
Don't even reply to him.

>>7506187
Yeah, I understand. I think lots of people here on /jp/ are trying to break free from that cycle. Have any really succeeded? I wouldn't know.

>>7506189
Just get a job in which you can take it easy.

>>7506193
Yeah, but getting there is no easy matter. Even more so for the ones who're born without talent.

>>7506199

Or those who have interests that aren't exactly career material. Ah, being a hobo sounds tempting right about now.

>>7506207
Right. It's all rather frustrating.

>>7506189
>Don't even reply to him.
Wasn't replying to him, just felt like pointing out the ridiculousness of it.

I mean, you see it anywhere, the same people who are extremely sensitive about anything they detect as racism and sexism will take any opportunity to use the fact that you're a white male against you.

>Have any really succeeded?
Wouldn't you say unclemugen has? Though he was born into privilege, so it's hard to compare ourselves to him, it's pretty impressive that at his age, he has enough money to probably be able to never work another day in his life and still be financially independent.

>>7506187
>like a curse society imposes on you
Don't think of it that way. Society, like life itself, just is. Mark Twain put it best:
"Don't go around saying the world owes you something. The world owes you nothing. It was here first."

The fact that you don't like the way it is, just means that you want it to be different. In other words you want the world to change. You want something. That alone is a fact you should celebrate. It means you're alive, you want, and you have power to shape the world, even if it's just so little.

>>7506189
I find it kind of weird or serendipitous that so many people on /jp/ of all places, for whatever reason see this cycle and want to break free from it.

Who knows where to go from here. Find something that you can support yourself with that you really do love and care about? We'll probably end up homeless and dead on the street, convincing ourselves we are martyrs to the ideals of taking it easy.

>>7506189
>the cycle
>samsara

>>7506207
Most of /jp/'s ex-hobos will tell you that being a hobo fucking sucks.

>>7506211
People tend to get desperate when they feel cornered. It often makes them spew some stupid shit.

And yes, I actually had unclemugen in mind. I disregarded him because as you say, he was born into privilege. But I guess a certain amount of effort was nonetheless necessary on his part to get to where he is now. I can't say for sure, though.

>>7506207
It's so ridiculous when they tell you do base your career on what you enjoy most.
>Eroge
Most Japanese developers probably struggle making money from just this, and it's even worse for a gaijin to try entering the industry
>Anime
Same as above
>Video games
Everyone wants to work with video games, few people manage to fulfill this dream
>Posting on /jp/
...

Fuck that shit, I'm going for that line where it's a little enjoyable and fulfilling, but not so much of a dream job that it pays like shit and/or the competition is ridiculous.

>>7506223

That's what I was told as well. I don't know, I just like the occasional walk down the lonely streets at night. I guess maybe there's nothing in this world for me.

>>7506219
NEETdom and hiki are closest thing to modern day buddhists or sadhus huh? What with getting "donations" from normal working folk, being malnourished hermits who don't want a bar of life or society. Hairy holymen creating gardens of beauty in their minds~

I'm disappointed that nobody ever took me up on my offer for assistance with pretty much all things academic.

Subtle attention whoring goes here.

>>7506231

For me, it's all or nothing. There's no job I'd only enjoy a little. It's even worse when people tell me to get a job I'm good at, because I don't think I'm good at anything, and the things people say I'm good at, I despise doing. It's such a pain. I'll work if I must, but I have no idea what to do in the future.

>>7506230
He once said that he actually has very little free time (4 hours a day), he just uses it efficiently. So it sounds like he puts effort into his business.

I may be naive, but I think that business sense matters more than capital for an entrepreneur. Someone with a good business sense can always find a way to gather up some money, but if you have no business sense, having a high capital just means you'll throw away more money when you eventually mess up (you see this all the time with women who have a rich father and want to make a fortune themselves without realizing any of the challenges).

>>7506232
Occasional walks down the streets maybe fine, but regular sleep at streets is not.

>>7506213
Of course I hate it. To me the system as it is now equates to killing yourself in order to live. It sounds stupid as all hell, but as a child I wanted to be like those adventurers you see in shonen manga who live their dreams out and get to enjoy all the things this world has to offer. But I grew up. No matter, I can be happy with something smaller. Maybe I can travel the world, see new things, meet new people, have new experiences, all that stuff. Yeah, I could be satisfied with that. In fact, my father had the same goal. I held his aspirations like my own and awaited the day he could finally realize them. But you know what, he died from overworking. I thought I'd try to follow in his footsteps for both of ours sakes, but it has been ridiculously difficult for me. I don't even have any hopes anymore, and I've gotten cynical to the point where petty things like assuring myself doesn't work. Sorry, but I'm miserable.

Whatever. Sorry for blogging. I just thought I'd get that off my chest.

>>7506234
When you put it that way, isn't it our duty to spread enlightenment (the 2D way) to the people?

I'm technically not a NEET, but I keep to myself as much as possible. I'm in uni right now, barely know anyone in my year and I prefer to keep it that way. Relationships require too much time and energy and rarely pay off for me so I'd rather invest that time doing something I know I will enjoy. I can function fine socially if I want to, it's not hard it's just a sort of acting to me. I know it's considered abnormal for people to have no need for others, but it's not like I chose to be like this, I just happen to have an amygdala the size of a peanut.

tl;dr: if you're not happy with your current situation change it, you shouldn't live a hikki lifestyle out of fear but because it works the best for you.

I know I will end up killing myself sometime, but I'm comforted by the knowledge that I've managed to enjoy life more than most normals.

>>7506238
Show me the post making the offer, I didn't catch it, and I don't think you can ctrl+f for the email field.

Everyone in this thread is reported.

>>7506264
Yes, I'd say it's true. You always hear about those types, the rags-to-riches boy. His business sense (or is it pure unadulterated desperation?) is probably what got him so high up.

>>7506269
If it makes you feel any better, you're basically the non-fantasy equivalent of Archer.

2/10

>>7506280
Ehh, I can't find it anymore either. It wasn't an OP or anything, just an off-hand suggestion in some long thread like this.

>>7506230
>>7506264
I think that more than being born into high places or any sort of business sense, the most important factors in success (as defined by normals etc) are ambition and perseverance.

Which are unfortunately things that /jp/ tends to be in pretty short supply of.

>>7506269
Goodness, I must have been really aggravated. The post is riddled with grammatical mistakes.

>>7506285
I don't know how that makes me feel.

>>7506269

I see. Admittedly I still have those adventurous dreams, to go out and be able to see what I wish and do what I wish in search of something, to change things and right wrongs. I know it's foolish and stupid and childish, but it simply never goes away. I still have those silly ambitions and do nothing about them.

>>7506304
You think so? Hmm, I may be a little jaded about all this, but back when I was in school I saw a lot of kids who worked incredibly hard but could only manage to get Bs. It's like that for me. Talent is the prerequisite for your ambitions and perseverance to get anywhere. So I think...

>>7506318
School is significantly different from the real world in that respect.

>>7506304
Well, that's only if you manage to use those traits to acquire the skills you need to succeed in whatever you're doing.

I could probably be a little more ambitious for a few years, in order to secure me a better future, but I have a feeling that unless you're really lucky, you usually have to stick with whatever you picked for at least a couple of decades before being able to retire.

>>7506325
When it comes to a "business sense" that these people are talking being a sociopath is a great help. You cant run a successful business and still be morally upstanding.

>>7506312
To be honest, I too probably still hold such dreams somewhere deep in my heart. It's obvious how futile all of this is, but I feel like they're something I should never throw away.

Maybe they're beautiful to us because they're unattainable. A vision of a perfect world. But in the end, I guess that's all they are.

>>7506318
Maybe that's true, you do need to have a bit of talent to get anywhere, but I've always thought that if you just threw enough effort into to school most people should be able to come out with something approximating straight As. And even straight Bs student can end up "successful" in life if their goals are "work a bit, but not too hard, earn some money for myself." But I guess my experiences when it comes to that are fairly limited.

To toss a personal example in the jar, one of my parents studied their way all the way from the rice fields of the Cultural Revolution to upper class professional America through sheer and utterly ridiculous hard work. There were advantages in upbringing in talent at work, but my gut feeling chalks it down to 90% hard work.

>>7506353
People who make B's in high school tend to be more successful later in life. They also tend to turn into A students in college where being smart is more important than working really hard. In high school the reverse is usually true.

>>7506353
I agree with you. All I was saying was that I felt you needed talent as well as hard work if you wanted to go a step beyond success. But you know what they say, potential is useless unless you realize it. I'm sure there are other factors that contribute to all of this (like luck, if it even exists), but I'd say sheer effort has the most merit.

Good luck, OP. I hope you find whatever you're looking for.

>>7506312
>Admittedly I still have those adventurous dreams, to go out and be able to see what I wish and do what I wish in search of something, to change things and right wrongs.
Me too, if I had the money I would probably travel the world on foot.
I've actually already planed out how to cross most of Europe up to Istanbul. But I'm stuck on where to go next.
I think I'd go east as I would like to see Azerbaijan but I think language will become a serious problem the further I go east.

/jp/, you depress me. You're smart and have such noble spirits, but all those "normalfags" who are really just no good end up getting so much farther. The good ones always have it tough...

>>7506353
I wonder if America's grading system is different from what we have here, because where I come from, getting the highest grade in every subject is considered impressive enough to be mentioned in the local news.

>>7506447
America's grading system works like so:

If you do homework and suck your teacher's dick: A
If you show up for school: B
If you're mentally retarded: C or lower.

>>7506447
Wow, seriously? Where is it?

>>7506461
Remember that that's only true for education classes.
It's actually illegal for you to fail PE, so adjust those grades to

A: Showing up and doing shit
B: Showing up
C: Never showing up

>>7506480
!America

>>7506484
This is probably most accurate.

>>7506485
Latin America?

>>7506461
Oh, that explains it. We use numbers, 1-6 with 6 being the best, and 1 being failed (no one really fails, though). 2 is being able to remember exact facts you've been taught, while higher grades are for your ability to reflect in a productive manner on the material you've been taught. Sounds kinda neat when I put it like that, but it seems to be way too subjective. Whenever I get a 6, it seems like luck, I haven't found a way to guarantee one, even when putting ridiculous amounts of effort into it.
>>7506480
Norway.

>>7506461
>>7506484
It also depends on the school you go to, and the classes you choose to take:

A. Diligently do all your homework, study for the tests. Add more effort if you're not intelligent.
B. Slack off a little bit if you're smart, or put in a bit of effort if you're not,
C. Show up to class.

>>7506555
By your standards an A in American is a 2 in Norway.