/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I'll trade.

Is that a cookie

This could all be fixed if Sudo didn't eat so much.

If they actually got it they'd want their old one back

>>7497059
That means the other party also hates his life.

Well, what can I say? The grass is always greener on the other side.

>tumblr_li0ub4WDc01qdzvabo1_500.jpg
>tumblr

I suggest you go back there and never come here again.

>>7497088
He probably just searched "skinny black hand in white hand" on Google images and saw the pic. It doesn't mean he goes to tumblr.

This is very true. It led me to a great moral challenge, and ultimately I had to face the fact that I had no real right to be unhappy with anything in my life as long as such deprivation exists. ive to charity and be grateful for everything you have.

Even if you are a shut-in with no friends, your life is almost infinitely better than that of about 4 billion people.

>>7497088
What's wrong with tumblr?

But I am content with my 3d life.

>>7497097
>Even if you are a shut-in with no friends
I'm a shut-in with no friends and I'm happy as can be. Stop projecting.

>>7497101

Sure, after you stop being in denial.

>>7497097
>your life is almost infinitely better than that of about 4 billion people.

Nope.

Watch these poverty-stricken Africans, etc on TV... they have some problems getting food or whatever (which they always solve somehow anyway), but at least they can make eye contact. They're always in groups, always have friends and always know how to talk to people.

They have no fucking comprehension of how it feels to be unable to do the most basic of things

>>7497105
this again?

>>7497101
>I'm a shut-in with no friends and I'm happy as can be.
Sure.

>>7497101

>projecting

Do you understand what this word means?

At any rate, at least you freely admit that you are happy. Just remember that you do not really have a moral right to ever feel unhappy in the face of such suffering - all one can do is be grateful and think 'there but for the grace of God / an accident of birth / go I'

Is that thing gonna snap or something?

>>7497097
>I had no real right to be unhappy
This is a retarded way to think. Unhappiness is not a conscious choice you make. And there's no function of the human brain to stop being unhappy upon learning that there are people out there with significantly more reason to be unhappy than you. So it makes absolutely no logical sense to expect someone to be less unhappy just because some starving kid in Africa is in a worse situation than you.

What it does prove is that there might be some appreciable things in your life that you take for granted, but true appreciation doesn't really come from intellectually acknowledging them as appreciable.

>>7497109
You would be amazed at how many people get happiness being excluded from the world.

>>7497101

I see others are perfectly content to call you out on your statement, though.

>>7497106

>they have some problems getting food or whatever (which they always solve somehow anyway),

Somalia, notably, is facing a crisis of mass starvation which even the UN food bank cannot resolve. Previous incidents such as famines throughout Ethiopia, Sudan and the former Nigerian breakaway state of Biafra all resulted in massive deaths from starvation. Sure, the problems get solved in you count 'millions die' as a viable and not completely insane and heartless solution.

>They have no fucking comprehension of how it feels to be unable to do the most basic of things

Actually given the political, social, and economic situation throughout much of Africa I would imagine the inhabitants of its many nations are far more acquainted with utter impotency than you, a man whose only misfortune is to have no friends in the first world.

It looks like the normals are out today. Are you bored of /adv/?

>>7497109
>>7497105
Whatever. I don't have to care about society's bullshit anymore and I spend all my days doing things I enjoy. That makes me happy. Does it bother you that I enjoy my life even though I don't do anything constructive with it? Are you jealous?

>>7497108
I don't care for your judeo-christian morals.

>>7497113

Oh, I cannot truly control being unhappy (humans do not have a very strong rein on their emotions, after all) but I do recognize that unhappiness for me is morally bankrupt. I can't stop it entirely, but I can work to try and minimize it, at the very least.

Beyond this, things like unhappiness, self-pity etc. are rather decadent emotional indulgences for first-worlders like me.

My goal in life is to widen the gap between the rich and the poor. I do not care about those who are less fortunate than I.

>>7497130

Why would anyone be jealous of you? You've just said you have no friends and do nothing constructive. You are an object of pity, not desire.

Besides, the moral of my saying had nothing to do with Abrahamic morality: it is more meant to tell you that it was by an act of great fortune that you are even able to 'enjoy' your life as you do now. All that seperated you from being one of those Africans was where chance saw fit to place you.

>>7497123
>Sure, the problems get solved in you count 'millions die' as a viable and not completely insane and heartless solution.
I find it completely impossible to have any sympathy for rabbits who breed to the point where their environment can no longer provide for their nutritional needs and they start dying out at a faster rate than they bred. It's simply the course of nature.

lol what the HELL is the white guy holding, an alien hand? a mummy hand? a zombie hand? CHOCOLATE SHAPED HANDS xD

>>7497141
>All that seperated you from being one of those Africans was where chance saw fit to place you.

This is bullshit, because in any interpretation of self there is 0 chance that you would be someone else. You're either yourself or no one. The African is always someone else. There was never any chance of YOU living that life.

>>7497141
>All that seperated you from being one of those Africans was where chance saw fit to place you.
Yeah. I had no say in it. Should I feel guilty for having luck in an event I did not chose to participate in?

>>7497145

Firstly: you have just dehumanized an entire group of people, comparing them to rabbits. You are already coming across as a racist tool. This is not a good thing to do and indicates that you have the mental skills, maturity and outlook of a stunted babyman.

Secondly: these problems facing Africa are almost invariably caused by the West (that is to say, You and your governments): the legacies of imperialism, colonialism, the continuing cause of neocolonialism, capitalist exploitation, etc. In some places (Angola springs to mind) colonialism ended as late as 1975. This is just to cut you off before you argue that all of this was 'in the ancient past': No, it was incredibly recent and trying to start a game of victim-blaming will reflect poorly on you.

>>7497153

I never said to feel guilty due to the accident of your birth. If you must feel guilty, feel guilty for how your nation has most likely been responsible for creating the conditions Africans face today.

>>7497149

This is really kind of gibberish but I would just say there was the great chance that 'you' could have been born as an African.

>>7497145

Yeah I'm a privileged white male who doesn't want to feel guilty about continuing imperialism and exploitation too

Haha those dumb porch monkeys deserve. What a bunch of dumbos *props up crooked tyrants who are subservient to crooked mineral corporations who both exploit the country, wonders why dumb niggers can't just figure out this whole government thing yet*

Remember when Europeans went into these countries and divided the people into different groups and when that wasn't possible dragged different groups from other parts of literally the entire planet into one place so they'd all hate each other and fight eachother for the scraps the euros left them. I wonder if that would have any lasting repercussions. At least I would if I didn't benefit from the lasting impacts of colonialism so Apple and Sony can make cheap electronics for me out of minerals extracted from broken countries.

>>7497167

I recognize that writing style. LF?

At any rate, you're raising many good points. Thank you.

>>7497161
What he's trying to say is that 'you' are, at birth, a tabula rasa. 'You' are a construction built with your conditions of living -- society, language, family, culture, etc etc. It makes no sense to say that 'You' could have born an African. The 'you' that was born to an African family has nothing in common with the current 'You'.
As an aside, this is a really basic concept you should be acquainted with.

>>7497180

I don't really see what this has to do with anything. It sounds more like you are trying to avoid empathizing with impoverished Africans and placing them as a totally alien 'other' beyond your understanding.

>>7497155
different guy than the one you were talking to, but I still think you're full of shit.
>Firstly: you have just dehumanized an entire group of people, comparing them to rabbits. You are already coming across as a racist tool. This is not a good thing to do and indicates that you have the mental skills, maturity and outlook of a stunted babyman.
Racism? I dunno if this is your first time here but this is a place where we think all human beings are complete shit. There's no sympathy for these people, not because they're black, but because they're people. It's just another example of something retarded people have done that other asinine people want to save them from.

>Secondly: these problems facing Africa are almost invariably caused by the West (that is to say, You and your governments): the legacies of imperialism, colonialism, the continuing cause of neocolonialism, capitalist exploitation, etc. In some places (Angola springs to mind) colonialism ended as late as 1975. This is just to cut you off before you argue that all of this was 'in the ancient past': No, it was incredibly recent and trying to start a game of victim-blaming will reflect poorly on you.
You have very heavily implied that we have played an even remotely indirect part in the west's general poor treatment of those countries. You say that colonialism wasn't 'in the ancient past' with 1975 as the most recent year: but I doubt there are many (or any) people on /jp/ that were born earlier than 1982. To a person who did not even exist yet at the time, that is the ancient fucking past. It has no bearing on their own life whatsoever. Feeling guilt over where you were born has got to be the most hilariously pathetic idea ever, even to those of us who despise ourselves.

>>7497155
>This is not a good thing to do and indicates that you have the mental skills, maturity and outlook of a stunted babyman.
By all means, please provide me with the psychological studies that show that comparing one race of animals to another race of animals is a sign of mental problems.
>these problems facing Africa are almost invariably caused by the West
Please give some specific examples of how imperialism to this day continues to rob innocent people of their food or forces people to breed to the point where their food supplies will be insufficient.

>>7497190
As far as I'm concerned the idea of being born and living as an African is completely alien. I have no way to simulate it in my mind, nor do I have the desire to.
>>7497174
And that was very smart of them because it helped them maintain global dominance for an as of yet unending period. Historically, military powers have been able to do things like this.

>>7497192

Your parents benefitted strongly from this exploitation: this was passed on to you, so you benefitted as well. Additionally, as our good friend the other poster noted, Africa now serves as a chief source of rare earth metals - those elements used to manufacture the elctronics that are so essential to your hobbies. You are, like me, benefitting even now from the exploitation of Africans.

>To a person who did not even exist yet at the time, that is the ancient fucking past. It has no bearing on their own life whatsoever.

This is basically solipsism. It did not happen to YOU personally and you may not even have been alive to experience it during the greatest heyday, so apparently it might as well have never existed. You are a very stunted person. I would suggest developing some empathy and consideration for how the past can shape the conditions of today.

>>7497206
Give me a reason to develop empathy and I might do so.

>>7497192

No it isn't the ancient past you ignorant shit. Or do you think all these dictators Afrians and Arabs are revolting against just happen to find shipments of U.S., French, and British weapons they use to kill protestors.

>>7497155
>>7497206

Forgive our ignorance! We don't want to go to hell!

>>7497200

Have you tried watching the news lately. Or do you think all these dumb niggers are revolting against good governments who meet their need and aren't propped up by western military aid.

>Please give some specific examples of how imperialism to this day continues to rob innocent people of their food

Look to the extensive 'land-selling' by tinpot tyrants (propped up by the west) to western and Asian powers. This is what spurred the revolution in Madagascar a few years back (Just in the mid-2000s): the west is now taking Africa's agricultural lands for itself.

>By all means, please provide me with the psychological studies that show that comparing one race of animals to another race of animals is a sign of mental problems.

You have just done it again. You hold blacks in open contempt. There is hardly any debating with you: you have already decided that a large portion of humanity is somehow not fit for the title due to the colour of their skin and their geography.

I mean in this statement you just cast aside all pretense and literally called black people animals.

>>7497211
I think that I don't care and it has nothing to do with me. And if I am benefiting from it indirectly, then I'm all for it. I do not feel guilt due to the actions of others, but I can be happy with them if they yield gains that do effect me. Win-win, if your allegations have any validity to them.

>>7497210

Well you've just outed yourself as a slobbering racist sociopath so uh well done with that I guess.

>>7497219
>I mean in this statement you just cast aside all pretense and literally called black people animals.
It's time you learned that human beings are all literally animals in every possible sense of the word.

What forces these dumb niggers to breed like rabbits. It definitely isn't the system where more children means more hands to work and scavenge that exist because tyrants subservient to the west don't use their resources to support their own people because doing so would undermine the profits of international corporations.

>>7497220

-an enlightened western male fit to live in a civil society embodying western ideals, as he casually eats an african baby for breakfast

>>7497220

Jesus Christ a lot of the users of this board are sad autistic sociopaths. I show you how you're benefitting and you do a volte-face to say 'actually now that you've shown me how I've benefitted I'm perfectly fine with the exploitation of people for my selfish gain"

>I do not feel guilt due to the actions of others

These are your actions, too. You serve as part of the demand for cheap electronics for your hobbies. You are just as culpable as they are.

>>7497222
>slobbering racist
Nope that's a pretty unfounded insinuation on your part.
>sociopath
/jp/

It seems like you are the judgmental one in deeming a person to be worthless and showing clear contempt for someone based on your conclusions that they are a 'sociopath.' What we lack for in empathy, we make up for with not being a judgmental, bumbling fool.

>>7497222
You're obviously new to /jp/ and 4chan in general.

>>7497220

-A wise and noble white man who would save the poor ignorant blacks but for being puzzled by their ludicrous and illogical actions, as he slaps the shipping label on a box full of grenades to be used by African and Arab security forces to quell non violent protestors

>>7497224

No, you don't get to do this. You don't get to try and wriggle out of it by claiming 'ooohhhh I meant ALL PEOPLE were animals!!!' We understood perfectly well the first time what you meant (that you think blacks are subhumans who deserve to suffer and die for your pleasure)

>>7497229
>I show you how you're benefitting
Oh, thanks for enlightening us, ignorant fools. We'd never have guessed without you.
>'actually now that you've shown me how I've benefitted I'm perfectly fine with the exploitation of people for my selfish gain"
Yep.

>>7497220
-Nobel peace prize winner Barrack H. Obama as he authorizes drone strikes that kills civilians with impunity and then wonders why those crazy Muslims want to fly planes into U.S. buildings

>>7497227
>>7497229
My secret's out I guess. Even if I were making the decision myself I would still always choose the benefit of myself over the benefit of others. Even to this extreme degree.

I'm sorry that you have to live your life worrying about other people while I get to be happy maximizing my own life. And this somehow makes me "sad".

I didn't know mother teresea posted on /jp/

>>7497239

Actually apparently you wouldn't have, given you've shown a distinct failure to display any insight whatsoever and a callous and chilling disregard for human suffering in the name of your pleasure. So yes, you really are fucking pig ignorant.

>>7497237
Pretty sure you are the only person here dimwitted enough to interpret it as such instead of a decent analogy.

>>7497249
That was my first post in this thread, actually.

I hope we ship some of these over to Africa.

I'd post more, but I'm going to go kick a puppy and then steal candy from a baby.

>>7497251

Nope.jpeg

Nice racist apologia though, you must be a real hit at parties

>>7497249
>callous and chilling disregard for human suffering in the name of your pleasure.
You're the only one here who thinks this is a bad thing. You're the pig ignorant one for not being able to understand why this is acceptable.

>>7497258
>You must be a real hit at parties
You really don't understand where you are, do you?

>>7497242

I'm sorry your mental development stopped in pre-k. I truly am. I'm sorry you're a conditioned product of an abusive system and you don't even realize it. I'm especially sorry you don't even realize the extent of your own exploitation in this system and are content with the bread crumbs the top one percent throw at you to keep you happy and stupid.

>>7497262

I understand perfectly well that I am talking to a bunch of pig ignorant entitled overprivileged sociopathic babymen, there's no need for you to enlighten me to this

>>7497261

Wow, I thought fucking Ayn Rand was dead

>>7497264
>exploitation
Fuck, I'm so exploited playing games, watching anime, fapping and arguing with retards on the internet all day, everyday, it hurts.

>keep you happy
And that's the best thing in life and its purpose.

>>7497237
While I don't share the opinion of that fag you are attacking so fervently in this internet cat fight, I think you should start reading his posts more carefully, as full of shit they may be.

/jp/ - Debate Club.

Like I laugh when I read the "I got mine, fuck them" people's opinions. They aren't even getting there's. They're getting the scraps, at best. And then you go deeper and invariably find out they're in a ton of debt or they're working some shitty slave job and it becomes apparent just how much they're more like the Africans than they are the smart egotistical man who's getting what they want how they want it.

>>7497269

Shut up nigger.

>>7497273
I never understood why people choose to have "clubs"? I spent 9 year in mandatory education and 3 year in optional and I never ever heard about anyone going to a "club" that wasn't blasting shitty music. Sounds like a massive waste of time.

>>7497270

His subtext speaks so much louder than his regular text, though

>>7497269

Yes yes we get it you hate your life and think fucking everybody should suffer because nobody will fuck you except the debt agency

You do not need to grind this into us

>I sure feel bad about those Africans while I beat it off to Lolicon and watch my life waste away before me.

>>7497264
I'm sorry that your mental development stopped in high school. If I were truly happy with my life I wouldn't be posting in this thread at all. There is only room for improvement.

The difference is that I don't dream of a world where such a system doesn't exist. I am not ever going to be made more happy by allowing people I do not know and should not care for to live in more comfort. An ideal life for me does not end war or poverty. Those are extraneous. If I can get closer to my ideal life while indirectly playing a part in those things - I will do so gladly. I am neither happy nor stupid. I am aware of most scenarios in which I've been exploited by the 'system' (though this is a different subject entirely) - but I'm aware of just as many times that I have exploited the same system in return. I have no desire for the world to be a better place. Please understand that concept and realize it is not a sign of ignorance or mental flaw. You are making a fool of yourself.

>>7497285

Hahaha you pathetic selfish solipsist shit

It all as to be about goddamn you, doesn't it

What a shitty waste of space you are, you sociopathic turd

Actually my favorite part of the "I got mine" people is how they always start with racist arguments before being forced to back peddle into "well at least I'M happy and that's what's important." Really shows that they're basically children and like children they have to be forced to mature before you can really approach them about anything.

>>7497297
We are all little girls on /jp/ and we won't mature.

>>7497301

If you're coming to /jp/ chances are it's too late.

>>7497295
>>7497295
>solipsistic
I find it funny that you're trying to use this word as an insult. I also find it funny that you're forced to resort to insults when someone counters your bullshit with things they've actually thought through.

>>7497301

Nah you probably won't but it's fun to style on racists and libertarians/objectivists who don't want to believe they're racists

>>7497305

Haha you think sticking your fingers into your ears and screeching "wah wah I'm happy and that's all that matters" is a "counter" to anything. Lmao. L m a o. Le lamo.

the samefag meter ITT is beyond repair

>>7497283
I actually do feel bad about how I remain alive and continue to waste away my life when great people die young. If you took some starving nigger from Africa and gave him all the luxuries I've been afforded, he'd just waste away his life on mediocrity. But what if I could offer my (probably) 70 year old lifespan to someone like Alexander the Great or Franz Schubert?

>>7497311
>Lmao. L m a o. Le lamo.
It's like your butt literally exploded.

>>7497318

Woops self correction. The last refuge of racists isn't "I got mine." It's actually played out reaction images and catchphrases. My bad.

>>7497311
You're not understanding that no one is sticking fingers in their ears and hiding from the truth. It's about deciding that you're happy with it after coming to terms with it. You're not. You're clearly upset at the exploitation of others.

I am not whatsoever. If I were to be brutally honest and say things I rarely say - I would argue that I even take a bit of comfort in the fact that there are people thousands of times worse of than I am.

I guess I am in /jp/ though, I bet "butthurt" is still really fresh around here.

This thread became shit, I'm gonna delete it to preserve /jp/'s honor

>>7497318

Shit, I always get a laugh out of reading these.

>>7497324
>Lmao. L m a o. Le lamo.
>Lmao. L m a o. Le lamo.
>Lmao. L m a o. Le lamo.
>Lmao. L m a o. Le lamo.

See this? This is what you just seriously tried to say forced someone to their "last refuge". Read it a few more times and tell yourself you've really proved something.


>Lmao. L m a o. Le lamo.

>Lmao. L m a o. Le lamo.

>Lmao. L m a o. Le lamo.

>>7497326

Yeah forcing yourself to think you're happy while you sit on a mountain of african skeletons and stick your fingers into your ears to stop hearing the wails of the damned around you is definitely not self delusion. I agree completely.

>>7497329

>Lolicons
>honor

We have none.

>>7497329
You must also commit seppuku.