/jp/ - Otaku Culture

make one homo

No one gives a fuck, they all suck, go away already.

Get out KS devs, Lion, and faggot devs.

>We can do better than this, can't we?

No, no you can't.

>>7441201

Your review of each game sounds pretty angry... Are you an angry boy anonymous?

All these projects fail because they're team projects.
Real projects start with a one-man team and eventually attract other people.

I've played the first and third, but whats the second one?

I'm pretty sure most of /jp/ likes Dandy Girl, and at least tolerated the presence of KS until they started spamming so godamn much.

>>7441252
last one made by one dude

>>7441307
>I'm pretty sure most of /jp/ is tsundere for Dandy Shoujo, always hated KS and is secretly gay for "Chill Out, It's..."

Fix'd.

What the FUCK is the name of that third one? I never fucking remember it.

Wasn't Dandy Girl made by one guy? Why is everyone treating it like it was a group project?

>>7441321
don't take it personally, babe, it just ain't your story

>>7441201
Requesting the name of the third one. Those boys look cute.

>>7441326

Lion did a large part of the programming and the entire script, the artist basically did everything else, and some anons contributed a bit to menu-scripting and music. So yes and no, I guess.

>>7441321
I think it was "don't take it personally, babe, it just ain't your story," written in that obnoxious no capitalization style.

>Lol, here's where Akira turns into the biggest weeaboo ever
Why does every line from this game make me want to puke?

>>7441307

I'm pretty sure speaking for most of /jp/ is fucking stupid.

well, actually I'll likely do something , but my computers skills are Yukkuri level, so...
...oh, and I need to polish my english a little. it's not my first language and I don't use it much lately...
oh, and I like beans.

>>7441342
because it sounds like you?

Hasn't /jp/ tried making a VN together multiple times in the past? As far as I know, all the attempts failed. There must be some underlying problem.

>>7441387
its an anonymous imageboard full of unsociable shitheads

>>7441374
Fucking owned for life.

>>7441387

>>7441421
nope, it's POORDOM.
no money, no external help.
this means boredom/lazyness/ragequitting=death of project.

Currently developing a Monster Hunter VN. And due to the posts in the thread I made a few days back. I have gotten some promising ideas.

>>7441474

Why the FUCK would anyone want to play Monster Hunter in VN format?

>>7441999
Why the fuck would you turn a book into a video game? What kind of shit organism are you that you need literature dumbed down? Can't you read a book like a normal person?

Katawa shoujo had a good premise guys

>>7442026
that's because the fags who made the VN didnt have anything to do with it

>>7442032
That is true

>>7442032
They stole the setting somewhere?
Do tell. The more I hear about these guys the less I like them.

I kind of enjoyed Don't Take it Personally, but when I finished it I felt like it was shallow and overall a disappointment to the premise.

I mean, I can't explain what I liked or disliked about it. Maybe if I played it again I could understand. I loved helping those gay kids back together and shit but nothing felt real. Also The whole prank is fucked up, isn't it? I mean, who would expect someone to lighten up after they caused them to think IT"S THEIR FAULT THEIR STUDENT KILLED THEMSELVES? Like, what?

I don't know. I want to make VNs myself one day so I need to pinpoint where my disappointment really lied. I think it's just the lack of a real arcing story and consequence.

Those pics were hot though.

>>7442051

Fuck off OP, nobody gives a shit about this.

This makes me want to revive my LOVEJUSTICE project.

It's too hard to get together an entire team to create a VN, so I'll just keep writing solo stuff like novels and short stories.

>>7442021
Yeah good luck making a good VN with that fundamental misunderstanding of the medium.

What you need to make a visual novel is to:

-> Be able to program or atleast be about to use a vn engine.
-> Music/Sound effects.
-> Be able to write a decent story
-> Art.

I suppose you can do it without graphics but it'd only really work as a "visual" novel, if has something to look at and hear otherwise you might as well publish a book.

The reason why people post these threads is because either they lack the ability to do one of the above or cannot do any of the above. I'd love to write a visual novel but I have no aptitude for art or music, meaning making a visual novel on my own is no-go.

and very few people will draw or create music without some reward, otherwise boredom hits them, and those that will do it for free, want to be able to have creative input, leading to conflicts.

Basically it'd be pretty rare that /jp/ unless someone has alot of skill and just needs an artist and can find that art or whatever skill they lack and can keep the project going.

But OP, /jp/ eats up all the stuff you posted - as long as it was originally posted in Japanese. If KS was done by a bunch of nips, /jp/ would love it.

>>7442131
Yeah because /jp/ never says anything bad about Japanese VNs except for how they do all the time.

>>7442051
Entire project started basically in /a/

OK, that's it. I'm reviving Lovejustice.

I wish I had something to write ABOUT. Anything, just something to get me started.

>>7442131
> If KS was done by a bunch of nips, /jp/ would love it.
you mispelled "If KS wasn't done by english developers, /a/ and /v/ would be all JAAAPAAN XD and weeaboo shit and 1/10 of the people would actually know it exists"

Lets write a Visual Novel about Charlemagne, we can make fantasy history with character that have red capes and undergo the trials that charlemagne went through to become Emperor of the Romans.

>>7442131
>What /a/ believes

O god you guys are more fucking retarded then i thought.

>>7442174
I find history boring and mundane.

>>7442150
pretty sure /a/ didnt exist in the year 2000

>>7442131
If KS was done by a bunch of nips, it would have actual production values. So yeah, /jp/ would love a VN with good art and voice acting about disabled girls, who wouldn't?

>>7442180
King arther disapproves of you.

>>7442111
>Be able to program or atleast be about to use a vn engine
anyone can use shit like renpy or onscripter
>Music/Sound effects
use free stuff
>Art
photos+photoshop or just use free shit
>Be able to write a decent story
the only problem. EXCEPT APPARENTLY IT ISNT

>>7442160
What are you interested in?

>>7442111
People will do it for the experience. Conflicts are part of any team project, managing them well can lead to even more creativeness.
>>7441448
Nope, you can make a VN with no money put in at all, just time and effort.
>>7441421
This is the only real excuse you people have, and I'm willing to bet that not many of you actually have it. You guys are just horrible people that's all.

/jp/ Mansion was pretty nice, and the guy who made it posted one of his other projects a while ago too.
Haven't read it but judging from the replies in the thread it was allright

>>7442201
Lots of things, but that doesn't even matter now. I just want something to write about so I can start practicing before all my potential fades away. It's just that I personally have too high of a standard and am unable to brainstorm ideas that appeal to me. It's a contradiction.

Maybe I should use some online plot generator or something...

>>7442212
Stop talking shit about people whom you don't even know, you big bully.

>>7442225
Yeah, you could do that. The results are usually inane, but you might get a good one.

http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate.php?Genname=storygen
http://www.maddogproductions.com/plotomatic.htm

I'm going to write a visual novel with no pictures and minimal music.

It'll be historical. English history because I'm a britfag and I love celtic lore.

No need for images no need for much music and I might even voice my MC.

>>7442268
So much for a "visual" novel.

>>7442234
Then prove me wrong. Get together a team and write that fucking VN.

>>7442274
I'll keep it image free and then post the work when i've finished writing and then find artist who are willing to fill in the space left by lack of pictures. probably the best way and then you have content to work from and no one is going to think nothing has been done and its a waste.

>>7442284
I'm sure there are plenty of nice people who are willing to work, but it's another matter altogether to actually find them and organize a group together. Don't look at me, I can't do that.

>>7442294
I suppose that could work. If you want to attract good artists though, it had better be well written.

>>7442212
>you could do it with no $ etc.
yes, but you have to take in consideration the true behavior of people that eventually will be involved. not that they're bad or something, it's just that the majority of people interested is a little 'lunatic', and a change of mood can throw all down the crapper. but if you can pull in someone interested more in the payment than in the project itself, you have a life preserver for it when more whimsical people spit poison and fart lightning.
...but if you can't pay him, he'll surely will not come back for art's sake...succesful party organizations in RPGs isn't total bullshit, personnel management is important.
well, this is my opinion. and it's not intended to be a absolute truth...

>>7442268
>>It'll be historical. English history because I'm a britfag and I love celtic lore.

I'm usually pretty open-minded when it comes to reading, but even I think this sounds boring as shit.

Story:

Could this ragged girl with brindled lugs have spoken like we do she would have called herself a wolf, but she cannot speak although she howls because she is lonely - yet 'howl' is not the right word for it , since she is young enough to make the noise that pups do, bubbling, delicious, like that of a panful of fat on the fire. Sometimes the sharp ears of her foster kindred hear her across the irreparable gulf of absence; they answer her from a faraway pine forest and the bald mountain rim. Their counterpoint crosses and criss-crosses the night sky; they are trying to talk to her but they cannot do so because she does not know their language even if she knows how to use it for she is not a wolf herself, although suckled by wolves.

her panting tongue hangs out, her red lips are thick and fresh. her legs long, lean and muscular. her elbows, hands and knees are thickly callused because she always runs on all fours. she never walks; she trots or gallops. her pace is not our pace.

>>7442302
Why not?
>>7442315
I guess it's all down to the people you team up with in the project. I'm pretty sure there are people out there that would join just for the experience or so that they can say that they've helped complete a VN.

>>7442337
What.

Drop this like a dead baby.

>>7442354
Because I am not a leader. I'd join if /jp/ decided to (once again) try their hand at putting together a VN, though. I try to be optimistic.

>>7442324
But Celtic lore is great. I'd read it as long as he includes a bad end where the main character loses his anal virginity by getting impaled on the horns of Cernunnos.

If /jp/ had hope in finishing a VN I'd join.
>game programmerfag

I'm fucked because I can't draw nor code nor compose and english isn't my first language.

>I guess it's all down to the people you team up with in the project etc.
well, I'm more than willing to think in a optimistic way.
...actually, I'm more than willing to make a VN ...buuuuut...I never VN'd in my life, so...
also, I'm into some stuff now...a non ero doujin. I'm only trying to figure out the story, but that's the hardest part...

>>7442403
English isn't my first language, either. It sounds to me as if the problem lies in your having given up, not in your actual competence. If you really want to play a role in creating a visual novel, having such a defeatist attitude is the last thing you want to do.

... is what I'd say, but I'm hardly qualified to make such a claim. Things that I'm talented at range from little to none.

>>7442184
>So yeah, /jp/ would love a VN with good art and voice acting about disabled girls, who wouldn't?
I loved ONE. Doesn't have the "good art" part though.

>>7442192
Using free art and music would likely result in a pretty bad VN.

>>7442284
So people are horrible unless they make you a VN. Why do you keep making these threads trying to get /jp/ to make VNs for you? If you're that desperate either make your own or learn Japanese and have all the VNs you could want.

I wish we could make a VN like Nasu's, give for the shitty writing. His ideas and concepts are always interesting.

Btw, Dandelion girl is from an original story from Robert F. Young. (June 8, 1915 – June 22, 1986)
So, when you are saying that there are "Cliche", you are saying that he made timetravelling's cliche BEFORE timetravelling's cliche. Bravo sir.
And you can't expect to have the same mentality as almost 50 years ago. except if you are dumb. or very old, either case you simply sucks.

That's it, just saying what i wanted to say, please go back to your discussion.

>>7442443
There never was any discussion to begin with.

I'm working on a VN script right now. I'm planning on using photographs for backgrounds and per-existing music and sfx, and my goal is to take the finished script and media files and use Renpy to create a kind of story-board mock-up VN, with sketches and notes in place of the character sprites and cgs, and then release it along with the request for help with art, programming etc.

I think this is the best method for writers to take if they want to get a team together to work on a VN. This way all the writing, direction etc. is already pretty much done, so people can get an idea of what kind of work the end product is going to be. And the artists know the writefag isn't as likely to drop out on them, having already demonstrated the willingness to put so much effort into the project.

By taking the initiative and doing the bulk of the work upfront I think writers stand a greater chance of attracting dedicated people to help make a VN. Even if you don't pick out the background or the music or the sfx, at least have a rough draft of the script completed for people to read.

>we

The Crimson Rider.

She waved goodbye to Tom, turning away from him she smirked, “what a dolt”, and pulled up the zip on the leather bike jacket that she wore tightly, brushing away her light brown hair from her face using her gloved hands.

Her bike was parked not far down the street, she preferred her bike to any other mode of transport. Of course it would be smarter and a hell of a lot cheaper to take public transport around to meet her contacts, not to mention, so much more less traceable, but she didn't care, she figured that if she gonna do these jobs, why not do them with style, and the bike gave that style, the way it purred into existence at the turn of ignition and how the light reflected back off its cold red surface, she loved it, it was her trademark, what

The silver of her gun in its holster tinted slight yellow by the orange glow of the street lights that broke the total darkness; the gun moved with a clink against her loose belt with every step she made as she approached the red bike, climbing up onto it, she smiled imagining Graham's voice “Safety! you ought be wearing a helmet when you ride that damned bike of yours” she never wore a helmet, taking pleasure from the feel of the wind as it whipping past her face. She turned the keys into initiation, and with an almighty roar the bike sprang to life, she revved it up and sped off into the darkness in a cloud of exhaust fumes.

She checked her wrist watch, 6 o'clock, an hour till the next meeting with a more interesting client...

First part of the Visual Novel i've been writing, Its not the final draft so grammar, spelling or actual description isn't the best it could be.

>>7442429
>Using free art and music would likely result in a pretty bad VN.
higurashi, tsukihime

I'm not sure I buy into the 'write it all, then find art' idea. Do artists not care if they are completely left out of the development?

>>7442495
The only free stuff between those two is the music in the first half of Higurashi, which was pretty terrible for the most part, enough to detract from the VN at times.

>>7442527
my point was that both look and sound like utter shit

>>7442516
Doesn't have to be finished, the art will change the way someone reads the visual novel, which means things need to discussed, edited and such.

>>7442181
>>7442051

The VN started off as a 4chan project from a sticky in /a/ based on that concept image. This was before the split and I have no idea who's running KS now so it probably has little to nothing to do with us anymore.

>>7442429

>Using free art and music would likely result in a pretty bad VN.

Have you ever browsed Jamendo? Some of the music up there sounds pretty good. A good deal better than whatever they were using in Higurashi, at least.

And I don't think using free photos for backgrounds, off places like morguefile or whatever, is a bad idea. Although I agree using clipart for sprites would be horrible.

>>7442516

I think it depends on the artist. Some might just want to draw, others might have ideas for the story. Obviously with a finished script there's going to be less room for flexibility with the plot, though that doesn't mean an artist can't bring his own unique style to the art.

>>7442546
so...it's time to put a sticky on /jp/?

>>7442653
no it's time to stop post visual novels in /jp/ they belong in /v/

>>7442663
oh anon, you're so sagacious.

>>7442663
Visual Novels, eroge, galge...these are all the triumphs of otaku culture.

>>7442753
Indeed.

Wasn't Lion working on a new VN that ISN'T sappy romancy shit?

>>7442663
Ok, start a VN thread in /v/ and see how that goes.

>>7442880

Yeah, Dust or whatever. Mysteries and backstabbing and noir shit. Who knows who the fuck is drawing it at this point.

>>7442976
so, hypotetically...what kind of VN would /jp/ do?

>>7442155
Aw yeah. I LOVE Lovejustice!

>>7443045
is this related in some way to Crysalis?

Where is this last one?

>>7443063
you mean, like the final boss or something?

>>7443067

The gay one with the good art.

I only know KS and what are the rest?

>>7443072
...hey, but VNs have the final boss?

from personal experience less than 1/50 people online who say they can write, will actually write more than twenty minutes of material, artists are a premium asset and won't just animate your entire shit for free no matter how good it is if they have to draw more than half a dozen pieces.

If you really want to make VNs but can't do anything that involves drawing go to lemmasoft forums and halfass it with all the other schoolkids.

...besides, I can't see the hud...how are you supposed to know how much life and ammo you have?

>>7443081
And 1/100 people who say they can draw can't, either.

>>7443094
how's this?

>Why haven't we made our own VN?
Because you can't do better. You just like to bitch about other projects for no reason other than "i could do better than that"

>this entire thread
You are all fucking pathetic.

http://scoutshonour.com/donttakeitpersonallybabeitjustaintyourstory/

Fuck this is gayer than gay.

>>7443104
also this. don't worry, there's no more.

>>7443094
Most of the people who can draw, won't bother even mentioning it.

>>7443104
I'm not picking on your or anyone else's ability, I'm only speaking statistically. I guess my point is something like this. When someone says I can write or draw, they're probably shit. Quality artists are roughly equally as rare as quality writers. But when people actually have to put their stuff on display, it's just very easy for someone to point and say 'that's a stick figure', and much more difficult for someone to point and say 'that's shitty writing'. So shitty writers don't get dissuaded as effectively as shitty artists and appear more common, but the average person who draws recreationally is just as shit as the average person who writes recreationally, we just don't see it. Consequently, quality artists appear much more rare relative to writers than they actually are.

I'm also not sure what you're pointing at using 'schoolkids' as an insult when we're all unemployed failures~.

>>7443135
Digital: A Love Story was really good, too. Ouch.

>>7443143
...uhm, dude? I guess that you're responding to the wrong person...maybe you wanted to talk with>>7443081?

>>7443143
>we're all unemployed failures

>>7443153
uhm, your pic is quite ambiguous. it refers that that guy is projecting, that /jp/ is making a project, that there's a man in it experimenting with a earlier projector model, or in a multi-layered 4th wall trepassing joke, everything?
I'm confus.

You should be able to understand why /jp/ hasn't done shit if you've been here more than 2 days barring excessive retardation

We should make a mod for Call of Pripyat that turns it into Gensokyo.

Why don't we make anything though?

>>7443212
Because none of you guys have talent, ambition, or money.

>>7443214
...thanks.
Asukarainbow.jpg

I know, lets make a VN about a suicidal guy who becomes homeless who ends up living in a warehouse with some sort of nun type person!

Great idea, right?

without talk of how or why, do we even have people here capable of honestly doing shit? NEETs aren't exactly known for their abilities or work ethics.

>>7443222
well, if you change"homeless" with "street thug", you described my first 25 years on this planet...
ah, add alcoholism, brawls and drug dealing.

I enjoy writing a lot and am definitely interested in helping make a VN with /jp/. If there is someone here looking for a writer please let me know.

>>7443243
you have irc?

All the projects are bound to fail unless it is a solo project.
Nasu wrote everything himself before Takeuchi offered to help out on character design.

>>7443248
Yes, I'm usually connected to Rizon. My nickname is notacoolguy.

http://archive.easymodo.net/jp/thread/7316999

>>7443256
is this the beginning of an adventure?

>>7443242
>street thug
>/jp/
No.

>>7443143
I can both write and draw well.

I need to improve my writing first...

Studio Nihi's entire development team was recruited from /jp/, but I don't know if that makes it /jp/'s official attempt at a full scale visual novel or not.

I tried getting artists from various sources, and they all bailed on the game after begging for money. The current artist from /jp/ does work that is 100x better and for free.

>>7443441
We're a small operation though. About four dedicated members and a few helping hands that do odd jobs as needed.

>>7442393
I'm a programmer too, but trying to get /jp/ group projects going for more than a week is always depressing because of how easily it dies out.

If only I could draw/write. If only.

>>7443557
Can you script in RenPY?

we do have #jp-devel@irc.rizon.net if you're interested in doing a project with other jp people

>>7443571
Probably, but I'd probably be bored as hell scripting things.

>>7443571
Ahaha, I always smile when I see vn scripting associated with programming.
Baaka.

>>7443584

In the case of RenPy, aren't you even allowed to straight out code things in Python to change whatever you feel like?

>>7443340
What are you talking about? /jp/ is gangsta as fuck.

/jp/ has it in them to make a good VN, I know it.

>>7443340
...dude, I'wasn't joking...Euroland works in strange ways...

Because /jp/ has no ambition in life.

There are several /jp/ VN projects ongoing at this very moment. Anyone who didn't start browsing here last month would know that.

>>7442457

I agree with this person. In order to get an artist on board, a writer has to prove hes serious. Same for an artist.

Either way, the bottom line is atleast one person on your team must have both skill and ambition to make your dreams a reality. And both of those qualities are nigh impossible to find together in one person on /jp/. Let alone 4chan.

Actually no we can't. /jp/'s taste in VNs isn't great. Anything made by this board would be an attempt to follow the herd as best it can. Not try new things or try to revolutionize the medium.

>>7443141
I like it

>>7446839
I was unaware that we had to revolutionize the medium or make some groundbreaking masterpiece, as opposed to settling for doing a decent job.

>>7446897

Agreed. Completely agreed.

>>7446877
I'm glad to hear that. considering that I'm not used drawing like that, I was expecting at least a rainbow of insults, but...
well, you're the only one that noticed that stuff, so bonus internets for you.
I'm supposed to let this sink or I have to bump?
...ah, too late...

>>7446936
>About
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wow looking forward to this one

>>7447183
Haven't update the website in months. No reason to spend any time on it until we release the preview.

>>7447196

good luck with your studio's VN, Kritz, it looks like it'll turn out to be pretty good.

>>7447196
Who did your music? Or is the stuff posted on January out of date as well, because that'd be a shame.

>>7447378
The music was done by two different musicians, one I recruited from /jp/ named zxii. He's been busy with real life stuff, but did all the music we'd need to cover his short absence.

Yeah, the website still has all the artwork of our old artist (who dropped the project after demanding money to continue work). Our current artist recruited from /jp/ is much more mature and talented as you can see from the screenshot I posted earlier. I think I'll leave the website to fallow until we are ready to release a preview, it'll be more exciting that way.

Believe in yourself, /jp/!

>>7449072
no, believe in me who actually, don't believe so much in /jp/.
eh.
but a drawthread popped out somewhere...it's the dark desire of /jp/ taking form?
it's the occult genesis of a new Dev team?
the future is still shrouded in the mists of chaos.

I'm currently making a short VN with my fiancee, and even though it's short it will require a shit ton of work. Organizing projects that need a lot of work and will take a long time.. won't exactly work if you want people from 4chan, seeing as nearly everyone on here is lazy and/or just joined the project for shits and giggles.

I want to see a pic of the normalfag(s) who made the 3rd one.

>>7449084
/jp/ is going to have to master the art of organization if they plan on making a game. That's why the KS devs were able to make their game.

>We can do better
>We

No, OP. That's not how it works. Don't try to blame your deficiencies and laziness on others. The proper question is, why haven't YOU made your own VN yet.

The board is just a place to discuss ideas, it's not some magical entity that creates things out of thin air. People make things. Individuals and their creativity and hard work. There's no "we". You don't get any credit for what someone else did just because he posts on the same imageboard as you. Conversely, we don't get any credit for what you did. If you are able and willing to, go ahead, create something. You can then share it with us, sure, why not, we should be like-minded people and some of us will certainly get interested in your work. But while you obviously shouldn't be an attention-whoring faggot about it, it will still be your work, not /jp/'s.

And if you can't be arsed to do anything, don't expect others to create something for you. Just don't.

>>7449112
...yeah, probably...but anarchy and autism are much more fun.
I give my vote for a totally unorganized and irrational dev team.
just think about it: someday one came up with a cool idea, and everything made before is trashed to make the new thing. how cool can this be?
...well maybe it's not cool. or maybe yes.

>>7446936

This is a big improvement over the old art. Looks much darker, too. Actually I'm kind of amazed that someone on /jp/ did this.

I just hope the quality of the writing matches the quality of the art.

>>7449107
I made a kon erog for yuo
erog is a story of affection

>>7449168
nobody likes my kon

>>7449521
It's alright, but not good enough for me to want to ride your ass over.

But I'm planning one right now (training my drawing skills, writing down ideas etc.)