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No.

Well, you can skip to the fandisk and watch that girl get fucked, if you'd like.

Or you could shut up and keep playing to experience some of the most awesome conflict scenes ever written.

He doesn't do happy stuff nearly as well as he does tense, suspenseful stuff. Keep going and you'll see what I mean, especially when you get into the later routes.

It's pretty shitty all the way through.

>>7420066
I read that as
"It's pretty shitty all day."
And thought you were talking about /jp/.

>>7420056

>Or you could shut up and keep playing to experience some of the most awesome conflict scenes ever written

ugh....

>>7420056

I agree with Kud.

>>7420072
Both are true.

>>7420066
So says one of the most notoriously shitty posters on /jp/.

If you don't like it, just drop it. It's probably not your thing

>>7420045
Overrated shit, just like Cross Channel.

>>7420085

No one actually remembers him.

Not this thread again.

Who here wants to bet that OP played G-Senjou first.

HURR IT TOO BORING NEED MORE ASPLOSIONS HURR HURR DURR

>>7420114
>HURR HURR DURR
Why do you people do this? Do you think it's funny or something?

>>7420114
G-senjou is also in the this of overrated shit.
Well, at elast G-senjou started good but turnet shit.
Sharin started shit and keep being shit with a bit a good moments but with a boring dead world.

Cross Channel is shit all the way.

>>7420079
Do not fucking call me "Kud" you little whore-faced faggotass bitch. I will fucking hunt you down and murder you if you do that again.

>>7420114
To be fair, G-Senjou starts pretty boringly. Tsubaki's chapter has even more pacing issues than Touka's in Sharin.

Also op suck cocks.

>>7420114
G-Senjou suffers from the same problem to a lesser extent. It goes from awesome moments to complete boredom. There were times in Sharin where I would have been satisfied if that particular girl's route ended right at that exciting moment but it had yet to reach it's climax and I knew it couldn't keep rising.

>>7420045

No.

Not unless you like angsty teens that is. Blue-haired chick (I've forgotten most of the names) path was almost unbearable, and I skipped Natsumi's because I knew it would be worse.
I do like how they transitioned to your sister, but that was only a sparkle in the sea of bad, angsty, pointless teen drama.

So

Sharin sucks
G-senjou sucks
Cross Channel sucks

Am i missing something?

>>7420132
You are neither Kud nor Kurdyavka.
You are a faggot that's taking mai waifus name.

>>7420260
They're all shit. You shouldn't even bother reading them to see if they interest you.

>>7420260
Sharin > CC > G-senjou

>>7420260
/jp/ says they suck, so naturally they're pretty good

>>7420260

/jp/ sucks

>>7420045
Yes it does. The sister cut scenes with sister end were amazing.

Bad ends = best ends.

I for one welcome this stupid slutty Touka.

Tsukihime is probably the only good visual novel translated at English to this day.

Nasu spent years in that.

>>7420309
Raged so hard on that ending. Took me a while to figure out the choices to avoid it, and honestly they don't seem too logical. Her mother should have been sent there if you ask me.

>>7420309
I'd gladly take care of shut-in Touka for the rest of my life.

>>7420315
To my surprise I managed to go through the game without a single error on my first try.

Ended up with Sacchi and had a satisfying experience overall.
Might try the fandisc later on just to close the gap in the story.

>>7420309

They would've been ok if the game had let you continue after them or allow you to actually pick a path. But NO, you HAD to make EVERY girl happy. This isn't fucking school days...

>>7420333
Was quite obvious how to get the Sachi end though, so I deliberately avoided it. I managed to avoid all the routes and got the sister end.
I can say that the sister end was really amazing though.

It's just 2deep4u bro.

>>7420314
Say Fate S/N is a close second, and i will give you a BROfist

>>7420348

CANDLES.
O_O
O_O

>>7420130
>Cross Channel is shit all the way.

As bullshit as this sounds, I can tell you didn't understand a bit of it.

Rather than criticizing it for anything concrete, you just declare it as 'shit', as though that automatically ends the argument.

Furthermore, while I can understand someone calling C+C's world 'dead', because that was the point, I don't understand how the world in Sharin can be considered as such. It's very colorful and the world-building is incredible. Granted, there are no background characters but that's not exactly unusual in VNs, so it looks like you're grasping for something to say other than 'shit'.

>>7420136

But man, you don't understand. The protagonist is DARK. That's fucking awesome! He's so DARK and his dad is so DARK and the heroines are DARK and the story is so EDGY and DARK DARK DARKESS DARK.

Excuse me while I cut myself.

>>7420242
>I skipped Natsumi's
>skipping unread text in a visual novel
>ever

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE ADMIT TO THIS

It makes you look like complete idiots whenever any real discussion comes up. If you skipped through something you cannot have an accurate opinion on it.

>This game was boring!
>But what about Part X?
>Oh yeah I skipped through that entire chapter.

WELL NO WONDER IT WAS BORING THEN

>>7420242

That's funny, I don't remember any drama or angst, just a pair of badasses trying to outsmart one another and an incredibly well-thought-out alternative criminal justice system.

Oh, and a sadistic, invisible stepsister.

>>7420729
Speaking for myself, the only part of Natsumi's chapter I CTRL'd through was during the flashback when Kenichi was being beaten up by those bullies.
After reading through Aeka's route in YMK I have zero interest in seeing more of Japan's bullying culture.

The flashback of Natsumi's chapter is where 95% of Natsumi's likability comes from. If everyone skipped it it's no wonder why everyone hates her

Horrible taste/general

What a shit thread.

>>7420751

You know it's not actually like that, right?

No one over the age of 12 destroys the equivalent of two hundred dollars just to be cruel. They'd spent it on something expensive then talk loudly in class about how they 'found' the money 'just lying around'.

>>7420760

I hate her because of how she became AFTER her chapter.

That fucking pose...

>>7420760
Yes, forcing Kenichi to keep going to school knowing full well that he's being horribly bullied because of her just makes Natsumi all the more likeable.

Both Sharin and Cross Channel are top tier, anyone who disagree has shit taste.

>>7420729

>It makes you look like complete idiots whenever any real discussion comes up. If you skipped through something you cannot have an accurate opinion on it.

I do not like teen angst. The protagonist was cool for a little while, and I could handle the first few arcs, but once it became apparent this was effectively a kinetic novel I lost interest (after Sacchi's path really).

Then, after being uninterested in the story/ 'plot development', I had to sit through THREE MORE stretches of teen angst. I was barely able to force myself through Touka's for that reason.

I was expecting a dating dating sim with an awesome protagonist and a twisted society, not a kinetic novel with a angsty teens out the ass and short 'ending' for your heroine.
Think of it this way: I play dating sims to look for my specific version of moe (which is difficult to find), and I don't really want to deal with the other archetypes, because I dislike them. Sharin FORCED me to DEAL WITH ALL THEIR PROBLEMS to get ANYWHERE. So what if Natsumi can word her 'feelings' craftily? I could care less if she threw herself under a train and died. Touka can utter "I'll murder you" as her Tusndere quirk? That's nice for her, but I hate Tsunderes.
Even if something 'interesting' happened in their arc, it wouldn't appeal to me because it was too targeted to that moe's fanbase. I was through with it the first time, and I sure as hell wasn't going to sit through more of it.

I didn't like shuffle for a similar reason, although they at least let you focus on a girl fairly early on.

A different viewpoint doesn't prevent an intelligent conversation.

>>7420793
VN is the ideal media for human drama, if it's not your thing then get away from it
And "too targeted to that moe's fanbase"? It's a fucking eroge for fuck's sake.
If you don't like cute girls what the fuck are you doing here? Go play Umineko or whatever landwhales like if that's your thing.

>I play dating sims to look for my specific version of moe (which is difficult to find), and I don't really want to deal with the other archetypes, because I dislike them.

...Then don't play scenarioge? If all you want is moe, then play moege. I'm not sure why you're blaming the game for having drama when that's its whole premise.

>>7420793
>dating sim
>DATING SIM
>whining about 'kinetic novels' when that was supposed to be a fairly clever twist

...The hell? What in the hell? Have I stumbled into the fucking Twilight Zone again?

>an awesome protagonist and a twisted society

BUT IT HAS THAT. The girls are used to present the world and the story's themes, the entire game is a setup for Chapter 5. This should be obvious to anyone, but maybe it wasn't to you since you clearly didn't pay any fucking attention.

God, what in the hell...

>>7420822
I was quite fine with saya, 赫炎のインガノック～What a beautiful people～, Tsukihime, Fate (without Shrio though..), the world to reverse, Crimsoness, OMGWTFOTL, Moon, Kikoku, and Divi dead.

And, for those that were more than just VN, I liked:
Sengoku rance, Big bang age, Brave soul, GA (mostly for the realtime battles), irisu syndrome, and all of kodago's stuff, to name a few.

I do avoid angst when possible, but not all VNs are filled with it, and those are the ones I tend to like.

Yes, and BECAUSE it's eroge they focus heavily on the archetypes. It's the same thing that sells Type B anime, people want to find their specific personality.character to fetish over, and the archetypes are generally accepted and popular, thus making them easier to write.

You have too limited a definition of a VN, and that's why we're having this conversation.

>>7420793
this is what happens when you force yourself to play games because they have just been translated
luckily, more and more titles are getting translated so people can choose according to their tastes instead of playing shit they don't like and whine like babies about it afterwards

>>7420858
You are the one who is limited, what's with your "I play dating sims to look for my specific version of moe", it's pretty fucking retarded.

Archetypes are used everywhere, the characters of Sharin are developed beyond them so I don't see what is your problem.
Seriously, get over yourself.

>>7420858
>without Shrio though
>without Shrio
>Shrio

GAAAHHHHHH

>>7420858
> Fate (without Shrio though..
Why yes, let's just remove the person the story is about.
Goddamn, it's like half the people that read Fate didn't even get what it was about.

>>7420887

The same can be said of every fucking VN with plot and themes more complicated then FRIENDSHIP AND EXPLOSIONS BUT IN A VERY DARK AND MATURE MANNER

>>7420837
The problem being that everything I heard about this was how it was moege.
As I said here>>7420242
If angsty teens are your thing, then you'd like sharin.

>>7420849
no, it doesn't have that. It has a few pages worth of text about it, and then VOLUMES about how every girl can't get over her own damn problems.
赫炎のインガノック is a much better interpretation of that idea.

And yes, it was set up for chapter 5. But NONE of the girl's dramas except for being thrown in jail were actually important. The important stuff came after their paths (like the jail fight, rally, and escape, anything before that was just showcasing the girl and the protagonist trying to be a badass.
It would've been quite easy to set up that without FORCING you to dig through every girl's problems (Fate, Tsukihime, Sengoku Rance, GA, Big Bang Age, etc).

Perhaps that was suppose to be it's selling point, but I didn't appreciate it and was quite annoyed with it.

>>7420858
>赫炎のインガノック～What a beautiful people
Oh he uses the Japanese title despite being an english only plebeian, how cute.

>>7420897
>And yes, it was set up for chapter 5. But NONE of the girl's dramas except for being thrown in jail were actually important.
Congratulation, you have no reading comprehension whatsoever.

>>7420897

Inganock is a completely different game with completely different themes and a completely different message.

My lord, it's like you completely missed everything that Sharin was actually about.

>>7420897
Basically you are just a retard who doesn't like anything that go a little in depth.
Everything you cited is either pretty shallow or is more style than substance, the fact that you said "Fate except Shirou" is pretty telling considering than Shirou is the only character FSN really develop in depth.

If this game didn't have Houzuki it would be a total waste of time. That's a bit sad.

>>7420869

And guess what I said here: >>7420242

The OP seemed to be thinking like I was, and so I gave my opinion.

>>7420871
That's why I play them. I don't have to like something just because they try to do something different, and you trying to force it doesn't help.

And yes, archetypes are everywhere, but the one I like isn't, so I have to constantly search for it.

>>7420887
I still appreciated the world Nasu made, HOW he told the story, and the subtleties involved. I can still hate Shirou.
I don't have to like every damn character in a story (even if it's the main character) to enjoy it, and asserting that I do is a very faulty viewpoint.

>>7420946

F/SN is ABOUT Shirou. I have no idea how you managed to enjoy it if you hated him.

Basically, you're an idiot who would be much better off playing nukige.

>>7420928

So depth is 'I'm a lazy ass who sacrifices her friends for greed'? or "I'm an emo teen who lets myself be controlled by my mom?" or "I love you but can't say it or else I die?"

Go back to High School. There's enough of that there to satisfy you for a lifetime,

All Sharin did was reaffirm that absolute power corrupts absolutely, it just did it via angst and a semi-kinetic novel. That wasn't special nor interesting.

Are you not that shitty tripfag who took on his holy crusade to hate on sharin at every mention? Why aren't you using your trip then? I'm pretty sure your trip should be already in my filter somewhere, please be so kind and don't try getting around it.

>>7420955
This essentially. It's not really about the HGW at all, that's just a vehicle for events to quickly develop Shirou. Which is probably why so many expectations are betrayed by it.
Everything else in Fate is secondary to Shirou's various developments.

>>7420955
Not that guy but that's totally not fair. There were many characters that were developed, and themes can be appreciated regardless of the characters used to express them. Not that I dislike Shirou.

>>7420969
By depth he probably meant more lengthy and detailed descriptions of the events happening and so on.

>>7420955

Read the last part of that post. For an example of what you just said:
How can you like Lord of the Rings without liking Frodo? (perhaps all the lore, the detail of the environment, the allegory, and how the story's told are important elements?)

>>7420970
Not a tripfag. And no, I have no idea who you're talking about, /jp/'s populated by more than 12 people...

>>7420969
>All Sharin did was reaffirm that absolute power corrupts absolutely

THAT WASN'T WHAT IT WAS ABOUT

Hozuki isn't even corrupt, for the love of god. Sharin is about the cyclical, self-defeating nature of human existence, and pretty much everything that happens in the game ties into that.

Hozuki even says this late in the game, but you probably skipped through that part.

Also, what's with this 'kinetic novel' bullshit? That's a brand, not a genre. You're looking for 'linear'.

>>7421000

Lord of the Rings isn't even about Frodo, though. It's about his JOURNEY, yes, and about the events surrounding it, but it's not about Frodo personally. He barely develops.

ITT: proof that sharinfags are all pretentious pieces of shit

>>7421008
No, linear means it follow a power crawl of some sort, whether it be actual power or an increasing conflict along a central storyline. Kinetic means that your choices don't actually matter (if you're given any), and you're forced down a single path the entire VN.

>Sharin is about the cyclical, self-defeating nature of human existence, and pretty much everything that happens in the game ties into that.

So how everything's self-defeating except for the protagonist who magically cures everyone's problems and his senior who helps him? The authority figure wasn't Hozuki, it was the idea of 'Special High Class Individuals', the control they have over others, and how easily abused it is (including ruining others lives).

>>7421018

It's about frodo and sam. And I don't have to like either to appreciate it.

>>7421047
>Kinetic means that your choices don't actually matter (if you're given any), and you're forced down a single path the entire VN.
Kinetic means no choices.

>>7421050
This. Kinetic Novels would be say, Planetarian and Umineko.
Linear is say, MLA or Sharin.

>>7420045
So, did Mana ever get raped when she got taken away by...whoever they were? This is important.

>>7420354
I won't.
Fate/stay night is shit.

>>7421050

The only choices you were given in Sharin were:
1) Make the girl happy.
2) Don't fix her problems and BAD END.

The only 'influence' the player had is which H-scenes they wanted (on both that 'chapter' and the end of the game), which is hardly non-kinetic.

Choices that don't actually do anything aren't choices in the same way that commands phrased as questions aren't questions.

>>7421077
They still affect which ending you'll receive.
Which is more than the nonexistant choices in Planetarian, an actual Kinetic Novel, do.

Pretentious shit.

>>7421077
There's still an influence.
Not the difference between higurashi, umineko and planetarian and MLA and sharin no kuni.

>>7420354
Fate/Stay Night is a babby's first VN of the worst kind. It's a bad story, a clusterfuck of setting and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive powerlevels faggotry and COOKING. The NEET anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.

However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for anime-only kids who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The Servants all trying their hardest to look cool, the different kinds of Magecraft, the peculiar, colorful costumes, the whole "Holy Grail" faggotry and everything about the FSN world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the angst-ridden character backgrounds, emphasis on heroism, and the overall preachiness of the whole story makes it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes normals and underage retards obsessed with cartoons eat this shit right the fuck up.

Fate/Stay Night is basically THE series to attract the most hated kinds of (self-proclaimed) otaku known to /jp/, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every anon to troll the fuck out of this franchise and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no FSN threads ever encourage the Type-Moon fags to show their faces here.

>>7421083

No they don't, they affect your H scenes. Changing a 2 minute scene at the end of the game is NOT enough difference to be non-kinetic. Again, choices that don't affect the story are like commands as questions.

I'm not against the kinetic novels, but against kinetic novels that give me psudo-choices, force me to drag up and fix the problems of EVERY girl, and are loaded with teen angst.

>>7421087

If you want to troll Fate, put it in a new thread. We're talking about Sharin here.

>>7421103
>No they don't, they affect your H scenes.
Which is still infinitely more than the nonexistent choices in Umineko, Planetarian, Higurashi, Kikokugai and so on.

>>7421103
Do you even realize what you're arguing? That simply isn't the definition of a kinetic novel. It was a term coined by Key with the release of Planetarian, and refers to a game with no choices whatsoever.

If you want to argue that it's no different from a kinetic novel in terms of structure, fine, whatever. But that doesn't mean you can modify the definition of the phrase "kinetic novel."

>>7421108
Stating the truth =/= trolling.

>>7421087
Someone needs to edit this for Sharin.

>>7421123

In the same way Band Aid refers only to the adhesive bandages Johnson & Johnson? The one that lost it's copyright because it became common use and thus in the public domain?

If you're only argument is a nitpick in grammar then please don't respond.

>>7421126

That was the courteous way to ask the troll to stop before being reported, but if you're going to encourage it we may as well report you too when it gets posted.
Hell, you're probably the same person.

>>7421148
...I see. Nice job trolling this entire thread.

>>7421148
Funny you should make that argument. Kinetic Novel used to be a brand and was then used to be a general term to refer to other novels. So it's an apt comparison. What used to be a term only for a brand is now being used in general.

But In this particularly argument, it's irrelevant, because what you're doing is like using the word band-aid to refer to gauze. That doesn't work.

>>7421167

Someone who opposes your viewpoint is a troll? You must live in a world of bridges.

Uh, the people in this thread do realize that he said "effectively a kinetic novel" right?

>>7421148

No one uses 'kinetic novel' to refer to a VN like Sharin, where your choices actually have some impact if very little. 'Kinetic novel' is used, as stated, for VNs that have no choices and are thus not, per se, games.

This is the established definition, and unlike 'Band-Aid', 'Xerox', or 'Kleenex' hasn't fallen into common misusage.

In any case, you have clearly missed the point of just about everything you've read because you only read the for the girls. Since few moege get translated, why not learn Japanese? Then you can troll Futaba about how their favorite game is shit instead of wasting your time here.

>>7421170

I would agree if Sharin allowed you to follow only one (or maybe even 2) of the girl's stories and then had chapter 5, but it doesn't. No matter the choices you make throughout the game, you'll still see all the same stuff and have the same results with the same story, excluding minor text variations at a few points.

>>7421178
People see what they want to see.

>>7421193
>No matter the choices you make throughout the game, you'll still see all the same stuff and have the same results with the same story, excluding minor text variations at a few points.
Yes, and that's called Linear.

>>7421193

Maybe you should play G-Senjou. It's like Sharin, but dumbed-down for readers with no attention spans! Plus, you can actually pick which girl you want to end up with!

Although it might be a little too DARK and MATURE for someone with your tastes. =P

>>7421186
1) Not trolling (again).
2) Currently around an elementary schooler in comprehension, which isn't enough to read most VN's.
3) Again, while I look for the archetypes, I can appreciate something for more than the characters. However, I found nothing of value in Sharin. It was angsty teen drama with an attempt at something philosophical.

>>7421219
>Currently around an elementary schooler in comprehension, which isn't enough to read most VN's.

Get better. Most translators don't consider the type of games you like to be worth translating.

>It was angsty teen drama with an attempt at something philosophical.

You realize that very few people here actually like any of the girls other than Ririko, right?

I disliked most of the drama but I still loved Sharin, but maybe that's because I actually understood what it was trying to accomplish rather than writing it off as 'something philosophical'.

>>7421200
No, linear doesn't follow the same story across all paths. Fate, Tsukihime, Sengoku Rance (a little lacking in actual story though), Shuffle, Clannad, Kannon, and Divi Dead ended quite differently depending on who you chose and what you did. Sharin did not, hence kinetic.

>>7421210
>It's like Sharin
Then I'll probably dislike it. There wasn't anything deep in Sharin, so dumbed down teen angst would only be worse.
However, I should give it a try for comparisons sake.

you guys are being trolled so subtly, it's awesome
this dude is a fucking master

sage for not touhou, though

>>7421226
I'm already working on it, and your attempt at sounding superior won't affect my progress.

>I actually understood what it was trying to accomplish rather than writing it off as 'something philosophical'.

Right, it wasn't at all going for philosophy:

>Sharin is about the cyclical, self-defeating nature of human existence, and pretty much everything that happens in the game ties into that.

Sounds a lot like an attempt at the philosophy of human nature to me.

>>7421236

Stop making up your own fucking definitions. 'Linear', when referring to VNs, doesn't mean some kind of escalation or power creep or whatever.

>>7421236
>Fate, Tsukihime, Sengoku Rance (a little lacking in actual story though), Shuffle, Clannad, Kannon, and Divi Dead ended quite differently depending on who you chose and what you did
And none of those are Linear. Linear is things like Muvluv Unlimited and Alternative. The examples you listed are more comparable to something like Morrowind or whatever. Linear refers to things like your average JRPG.

>>7421260
Morrowind, Oblivion, and FF-X2 are examples of non-linear games, where it doesn't matter what you do at all. There's almost no consistency between them and the order you do events almost doesn't matter.

The games I listed are linear because, once you're on a path, you're forced to stay there and had an escalation to the end of a plot.

Just because something is outside the 'strict' definition doesn't mean it's not a part of the idea (a child of an African American and a Caucasian is still black, and if the Caucasian was partially African American than the child is more black than white). As with everything, there are varying shades, and the games I listed are more linear than not for the reasons I listed.
This is why I didn't want to argue grammar/semantics, because it doesn't get anywhere; although it is at least helping fill the thread so it dies faster.

>>7421247
Brand everyone who opposes a viewpoint a troll and we won't have anything creative or interesting.

>>7421325
>once you're on a path, you're forced to stay there
List out all the VNs that you know that you can freely jump from route to route then please.

>>7421325
but oblivion has a linear plot. just because everyone chooses to ignore it doesn't mean it isn't there.

>>7421334

That's not the point and a misrepresentation of what I've been saying the entire thread.

The 'linear' VN's allowed you to choose a path and followed it to the end. Examples already given.

Kinetic novels don't let you affect the story, and thus you follow it all the way though with only minor variations (any of the Tales of series, planetarian, most of the FF series, etc.) Sharin had no choice, you followed everyone in a specific way or else BAD END. Hence kinetic.

Non-Linear 'VN's' don't care how you do things or when, as long as it gets done they're happy (Brave soul, a bunch of bad Hentai I've long since deleted and thus forgotten the titles of).

>>7421406

And I saged a picture there.

>>7421406
>The 'linear' VN's allowed you to choose a path and followed it to the end
But that's not what linear means.
Linear refers to how the plot is. Like a goddamn straight line with no branches.
All those things you listed would be qualified as "Branching Plot" or whatever.

>>7421406
"Kinetic novel" is just a Visual Art's marketing term, given because they all lack choices: the game flows without stopping for player intervention.

If you're going to use "kinetic novel" as a generalized brand name, at least use it properly.

Seriously, I have never seen a troll this good.

Everyone come look at this troll, and laugh, and then send him back to /a/ where he came from.

>>7421445

>>7421047
>>7421077
>>7421103
>>7421193
>>7421236

>>7421439
Then a linear plot is a kinetic novel. If it follows the same goddamn straight line with little to no variation, it'll only retell the same story no matter how many times you read it and thus is invariant.
A small 'blip' in the development, such as a text line alternation or sex scene, doesn't actually affect the plot, and thus it stays straight as an arrow.

Full circle to one part of my dislike for Sharin!

>All those things you listed would be qualified as "Branching Plot" or whatever.

Yes, branching, linear plots. Hence the comparison above.

>>7421513
I don't think this is a troll, but rather someone so autistic as to believe what he's saying.
I mean, this is /jp/ after all.

>>7421556

No, he's too retarded to be real. He's been arguing that his definition of a thing is different than the definition that everyone else uses for hours now.

No one is this stupid and yet competent enough to spell things correctly.

>>7421556

Well, it is possible he's referring to the other person(s) I've been debating with (himself possibly included), but I have to assume he's referring to me based on the commentary and quoting.

Practicing one's skills is still a useful exercise, and bonus to me for actually having an opinion on the topic. I normally lurk.
Do I believe I'll change an opinion? Not unless I'm talking to kids in middle school. Have I been defending my viewpoint this entire thread? Yep. Will I stop? When the counterpoint stops/degrades into obvious troll or I go to bed, whichever comes first.

>>7421586
I dunno man, I've met some really autistic people that behave exactly like this.

>>7421586

Everyone? It is equally as likely that every person in this thread is you as it is me. The whole point of anon is that identities can't be verified (screw tripfaging, which can be circumvented anyways). The 'collective voices of the masses' means nothing here and thus your statement wrong.

And no, I've been defending my valid dislike for Sharin for the reasons stated previous, and it turned into a semantics war because the counterpoint didn't have a valid counter to what I said.

>>7421623

True enough, I've seen people defend their obviously wrong convictions to the very, very end.

This isn't even an opinion, either. It's like arguing that slate is the same thing as sandstone just because they're both rocks.

>>7421638
>the counterpoint didn't have a valid counter to what I said

No, it's because I can't possibly argue with what is a legitimate opinion even if I disagree with it and think it's a stupid opinion to have.

>>7421663

So we're done then. Name calling/autism accusations don't matter anyways unless one's in grade school, which hopefully neither of us are.

I really enjoyed Sharin, take that samefag

>>7421334
You can change routes when on a route in Aoishiro. Not all the time and not for long, but you still can.
Just saying.

And for people who say that Sharin is just boring, you guys need to pay more attention. It's pretty interesting because as you read you can speculate what's actually going on and what will happen. That's the charm of the game. If you can't do this then yeah, you won't really find it that interesting.
It's worth playing it for Ririko though.

Bump.

This thread is bad and you all should feel bad.