/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Because her mother is a whore.

Ritsuko from Idolmaster?

because Medusa

>>7410956

>I can't understand why anyone would like her.

Well, she's pretty and she has nice tits.

...and, most importantly, she's a sweet girl once she drops the act, sort of.

Because there has to be a heroine that everyone dislikes in a VN. Sakura in F/SN, Fal in Symphonic Rain, Ciel in Tsukihime, Natsumi in Sharin, Shiratori in g-sen, Sei from Koihime, Misato from cross channel, Nerine from Shuffle!, Luca from Ar Tonelico 2, Esperia from Eien no Aselia etc.

Oh Chizuru...

100000000000000000000000000x better in Unlimited/Alternative. Hell in that universe I actually like her more than Kei.

>>7410964

I guess you could say she lost it.

>>7410982
>Esperia from Eien no Aselia
Couldn't agree more

>>7410982
That feel when I liked all of these heroines.

Except Esperia of course. No one liked her.

>>7410991

... but I liked Esperia.

>>7410982
Well screw you, pal.

>>7410982
>Natsumi in Sharin
Make that both Sachi and Natsumi

>>7410982
>Sakura in F/SN
>Fal in Symphonic Rain
>Shiratori in g-sen

I liked these ones. And Chizuru.

>>7410987
I liked her more Extra.

The room looks pretty clean to me...

>>7410982
>Sei from Koihime
>bad character
Is it possible to be this wrong?

>>7411009
But then that leaves Touka who by all accounts is a mediocre looking child that never does anything but whine.

>>7410996

>>7411050

Thank you for reminding me that I'm not wrong about that.

>>7411024
Was about to say the same thing. Sei's presence in that list can only be an effective troll

Seriously, the reason why /jp/ dislikes all those heroines is simple. I've noticed a trend here on people being more oriented to S behavior, so fetishes like loli where the female party is mostly submissive/willing are way more popular than girls who are proactive and don't back down on you.

I'm not really saying that /jp/ only likes yamato nadeshikos, but if there's something common between characters like Mimi-senpai, Garnet, Ritsuko and Chizuru is that they are girls who have a naturally leading attitude (they are/were all class-reps), so it conflicts with /jp/'s tastes.

By the way, I'm not saying that EVERYONE is like that, just something I noted after many, many threads. I, for one, love angry women that always yell and curse at you for being such a lazy ass, but in the end that's just their own way of caring about you. And when they finally warm up, you just can't go back.

He didn't say any of them were bad characters, just that they're hated. Granted Sei doesn't fall under either. But generally speaking the masses are retarded so characters that are popularly hated might be a good thing for them

>>7411054
No problem, however here's the superior girl.

>>7411064
>Garnet
>leader
Ya, right. Her appeal was pretty much the complete opposite, since she was fucking terrible at getting anything done. People just don't like her because she has Q cups or something that look fucking retarded.

>>7411073

My favorite is Lesteena, personally, but Tokimi is pretty great, too.

>>7411064
>Mimi-senpai
>naturally leading attitude
I played Cross Channel ages ago but I don't remember her being like that at all.

>>7411064
No.

All big tits megane characters are shit tier.
They are everything wrong with eroge, anime and manga.
Pic related, the only exception.

>>7411064
She wanted to do everything herself during the sports festival, on top of being annoying. She was bitching about teamplay during training and yet she ignored others and messed up. She got what she deserved afterwards though.

>>7411064
i dont like S
also im M, and i still hated chizuru
marimo is the best

>>7411087
I liked everyone. Everyone had a unique personality and while Esperia was slightly annoying she was quite charming. For some reason I liked Tokimi and Aselia the most though, probably because of the CG pictures which portrayed their feelings really well.

>>7411106
The part where Takeru told everyone to shut the fuck up was my favorite part of Extra.

>>7411123

Yes, all the heroines were solid in that aspect. I didn't dislike a single one of them and that doesn't happen very often.

>>7411088
she was the complete opposite

>>7411132
The little sister character however was horrible.

Worse character in eroge history in my opinion.

Almost made me drop the game until running into Tokimi at the shrine kept me going.

>>7411140

I didn't like her much, either. I liked her friend, though... I forgot her name... something-tori... Kotori, maybe?

>>7411140
She develops quite nicely.
In one of the routes she joins you for the last level. Unless you leveled some nice attackers to 99 or atleast maxed out their attack, on super hard she actually packs quite a punch. I think it was Tokimi's route that she appears at.

>>7411147
but that personality.

Also trying way too hard to be cute.

All the heroines had decent personalities though, but despite liking Esperia and Orpha as characters, I had no desire to do their routes.

>>7411183

Her voice didn't help at all.

>>7411183
You're missing out on Orpha route though. There is a significant backstory for the whole setting in her route.

>>7411198
One more thing, once she becomes an eternal let her stay alone in an all-rounder squad. She wipes the floor with anything she encounters, especially continuation battles, while keeping her mind score near 100 due to her awesome defensive spells.

>>7411079
>>7411088
I think you guys are misunderstanding it. I'm saying that they have a leading attitude, a tendence to proactivity. That doesn't means they are competent or efficient at that, regardless of how they try. Also, it should also be noted that all of them go full M at sex, so it's not like they are ALWAYS being the one to dictate the rules either.

>>7411100
You know who else is shit-tier? Your mom. What are you going to do now, nerd?

>>7411106
I like that about that type of character. It's totally personal preference, but women who are always strict captivate me. I like how they are easy to anger, and when they get angry they are so cute that it hurts. I can dig why you guys don't like that, though.

>>7411079
Also, just for the sake of clearing this up:
>People just don't like her because she has Q cups or something that look fucking retarded.
http://www.sumaga.net/

Bottom of the page.

>>7411265
>I like that about that type of character. It's totally personal preference, but women who are always strict captivate me. I like how they are easy to anger, and when they get angry they are so cute that it hurts. I can dig why you guys don't like that, though.

Well that's fine, but I don't see her like that at all. She even hated her mother who didn't really do anything bad to her. She's just a genuine bitch which goes soft when she likes it.

>>7411340
I don't think I have to attempt to lecture you on how Chizuru and her mom's characters were essentially different. Sometimes you don't even need to be directly harmed by someone to hate that person.

Then again, I barely played through her route in Extra since I found all of them to be boring as fuck, so you got a point over me there.

>>7411100

No.

>>7410955
Would be so much more fun to see Chizuru route end with Takeru and her mom, while she watches.

>captcha: Nihon-zin ntrap
lolwat

>>7410982
>Luca from ar tonelicon and shiratori from G-sen
I liked these two and was unaware that they were singled out for hate.
>>7410987
Kei was my favourite from MuvLuv. She was a well made character that suffered from being given a terrible story. Good lucks and a personality that made me genuinely laugh but dear God were her routes boring as hell. Still, She probably got one of the most badass moments in all of Alternative.

>>7411459
Kei's personality was really fun. But yeah, her route with the love for another guy was just pretty terrible.

>>7411473
Never played her route in Extra, but did he actually loved Sagiri?

>>7411265
>Also, it should also be noted that all of them go full M at sex, so it's not like they are ALWAYS being the one to dictate the rules either.
I actually dont like this, Especially when it's a character (not chizuru in this case) who hasn't been given enough character development to let their guard down around the MC. I'd prefer it if they just stopped being mean but remained awkardly controlling. sort of like "Shut up for a second while i work this out" As she lowers herself.

>>7411476
Yes, she almost hooked back with him as well.

>>7411473
Made me laugh every time she used her Takeru shield

>>7411476
She obviousy had affection for him, probably loved him very much in the past, but after the whole shit happened she was more troubled than fully "in love". But yeah, her route is about her choosing between Sagiri and Takeru, basically. I can't say it was that interestingly written, but at least it's a "realistic" situation you don't see that much in eroge, I liked that.

>>7411488
What the flying fuck. I'm so glad I wasn't attracted to Ayamine enough to play her route, oh god.

>>7411494
I see, that does sounds a bit interesting.

>>7411491
Yeah. Also all those chibi scenes were pretty awesome.

>>7411494
Out of the bunch it probably was the one most grounded in reality. I don't think Takeru really got hit by a 'shut the fuck up, your acting like a chid and your wrong' moment in any of the other routes in extra. Still, out of all the girls, she was probably the last one I'd have wanted a route that fealt 'real'.

>>7411518
>your acting like a chid and your wrong

Time to hit the bed, Anonymous.

Remember Miki? Miki was pretty cool.

Don't mind me, I'm just one of her three fans.

>>7411518
Yeah, I can get behind that, I liked her too.
Maybe age themselves realized that, her dream scene in Altered Fable is one of the most badass out of the heroines.

>>7411532
typing is hard ok?
there like, eleventeen buttons on this thing.

>>7411541
Is anyone trying to translate altered fable at all or would it be faster to learn moonrunes?

>>7411547
it would be faster to play it with atlas, it's basically like Extra, you're not missing much even if you don't understand a sentence out of three

is it bad if the only scene I liked with sakaki was the one where she blows herself up?

Kasumi es the best Muv Luv.

>>7411551
I get the feeling that if this set of cast was left on altered fable it would leave a bad taste in my mouth, MLA should have been the end of it. I know my opinion isn't very popular but I just can just enjoy different eroge for hijinks and leave this classic in my mind as it should be.

>>7411539
Although I am Kei fan, Miki boomerang was pretty damn awesome.

>>7411762
I don´t remember it... when appears?

>>7411551
Atlas gets mangled by overly casual speech, which is basically all Takeru talks in and a lot of the characters speak in it a lot as well., and it'd get mangled every time Meiya and Yuuhi talk.
So it's more like he wouldn't understand a could chunk of it.

>>7411765
Somewhere at the start of Miki route when Takeru imagines what would Miki do to him in the dojo.

OP here, finally finished all the routes in extra.
Still I hate her guts, after she gets "soft" as you guys said she would, she goes back to bitch mode later on. I haven't read many VNs yet, but so far she is the worst bitch I stumbled upon.

>>7415495
You're just not M enough OP

>>7415495
Oh come on, bitch mode my ass. Chizuru after her route ends becomes maximum waifu material. That scene where she's with Takeru on the shrine was great.

Either way, she gets much better on Unlimited/Alternative, her h-scene on the former was specially great.