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What is with the Japanese and not giving a fuck if children swear?
I only noticed this when I mass installed higurashi on a bunch of seniors iPads at a home one day and they didn't like it because the kids swore in it.

>> No.7356393

Higurashi has been ported to iShit?!

>> No.7356394

Were they swearing in english? If so,

>implying they know the Connotation and meanings of the words they're saying.

>> No.7356398

>>7356394
Who knows, it's the mangagamer translation of hig so they could be saying anything in the original.
And it has the butchered mangagamer soundtrack so a lot of scenes are ruined.

>> No.7356400

>>7356389
Insults don't exist in Japanese. Only filthy gaijins do that.

>> No.7356402

They don't give a fuck even if children are fucking and killing each other in it. I'm sure they will censor swearing.

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>>7356400
baka

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>>7356398
>mangagamer soundtrack
>higurashi

>> No.7356411

>I mass installed higurashi on a bunch of seniors iPads at a home one day

Why

>> No.7356414

>>7356411
Because I could.

>> No.7356420

There are no "swear words" In Japanese. You either say a variation of "baka/aho" or get creative with your insults.

>> No.7356422

>>7356414
epic bro ftw

>> No.7356431

>>7356420
Then what's with translated words into "fuck" or "shit"?

>> No.7356436

>>7356420
What about くそ?

>> No.7356443

>>7356431
There is no equivalent of "fuck", it's just translators throwing them in. "Shit" could be "kuso" like >>7356431 said, but it's not really treated like a "curse word" in English, more similar to "stupid" on the offense level.

>> No.7356444

>>7356431
using fuck and shit is natural in English. Using constantly nothing but 'stupid' or some variant in English is not. Also, fuck and shit are just like kuso or and other such things in that they serve the same function - a word used in frustration. The fact that fuck and shit have silly and ridiculous connotations thrust upon them by society is irrelevant

>> No.7356447

>>7356420
How do you define "swear words?"

There are plenty of words which are simply not appropriate in most contexts and are not really deemed appropriate for children to use. For example, I would say just like "bitch," "mesu"(usually coupled with another insult) is considered fairly inappropriate outside of formal use.

There's no religious basis to it like there is in the West, but they have their share of words which are considered inappropriate or offensive.

>> No.7356455

>>7356447
I define them as words that are considered rude/taboo no matter the context in a culture. Fuck, Shit, bitch, etc.. are never or very rarely appropriate. Baka, kuso, mesu(just "female" for animals"), etc... have totally legitimate normal uses that are commonplace outside of insults.

>> No.7356476 [DELETED] 

>>7356455
Bitch has its normal uses as well. It's used in biology, just like mesu. The implications of the word as an insult are different, but they're just as bad, and the formal and practical uses are nearly identical.

I wouldn't say that Japanese really has an equivalent of "fuck." Kuso is slightly more acceptable than shit but still not really usable outside of friendly/humorous contexts(I would say shit is given the same treatment these days).

I'd say that Japan's version of swear words more or less comes from compound words. I don't think you can really argue that words like "kusottare" or "kichigai" are usable in any kind of formal context whatsoever. Kichigai is quite literally given swear word treatment on television, I'm not sure if you know or not but it's a banned word.

Swear words definitely don't translate between Japan and English and there are many phrases which they don't really have equivalents for, but if you're going to argue that Japan doesn't have socially unacceptable words(keep in mind I'm excluding friendly/humorous contexts, as swear words are commonly considered acceptable in English in those contexts as well) then I suppose we have nothing to discuss. At the very least, "kichigai" is a word that fits your definition, from my experiences/knowledgebase. It's a word that you can only use acceptable in the same contexts that you can use "fuck"(i.e. talking to someone you're enemies with or joking with a friend) although its meaning is completely different.

>> No.7356482

>>7356455
Bitch has its normal uses as well. It's usable in biology, breeding practices, documentaries, official documents, etc. just like mesu. The implications of the word as an insult are different, but they're about equally bad, and the formal and practical uses are nearly identical.

I wouldn't say that Japanese really has an equivalent of "fuck." Kuso is slightly more acceptable than shit but still not really usable outside of friendly/humorous contexts(I would say shit is given the same treatment these days).

I'd say that Japan's version of swear words more or less comes from compound words. I don't think you can really argue that words like "kusottare" or "kichigai" are usable in any kind of formal context whatsoever. Kichigai is quite literally given swear word treatment on television, I'm not sure if you know or not but it's a banned word.

Swear words definitely don't translate between Japan and English and there are many phrases which they don't really have equivalents for, but if you're going to argue that Japan doesn't have socially unacceptable words(keep in mind I'm excluding friendly/humorous contexts, as swear words are commonly considered acceptable in English in those contexts as well) then I suppose we have nothing to discuss. At the very least, "kichigai" is a word that fits your definition, from my experiences/knowledgebase. It's a word that you can only use acceptable in the same contexts that you can use "fuck"(i.e. talking to someone you're enemies with or joking with a friend) although its meaning is completely different.

>> No.7356484

>>7356482
>It's a word that you can only use acceptable in the same contexts that you can use "fuck"(i.e. talking to someone you're enemies with or joking with a friend) although its meaning is completely different.
Well, nobody really cares about the meaning of 'fuck'. Sometimes, it's even used without a context, simply as an interjection.

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>>7356431
>Then what's with translated words into "fuck" or "shit"?

Translators trying to "spice things up."

>> No.7358397

what about きちがい。 They can't use that on tv.

>> No.7358410

>>7356455
>Fuck, Shit, bitch, etc.. are never or very rarely appropriate.
What? Those are all completely appropriate in a lot of situations. Basically anytime you're around your friends, unless you're really old or really young or really Christian.

>> No.7358676

>>7356482

There are other words though that aren't appropriate outside of TV , such as kisama and temme.

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