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Fag.

I thought EoSD didn't have a visible hitbox...

>>7349492
Teehehe! ★

>>7349492
He's a cheater who can't be a simple game like EoSD.

Congratz on the 1CC.

If this is a gameplay general, then does anyone have any tips for Yuyuko on Lunatic using Marisa? I get my shit slapped constantly with her, but Sakuya seems a whole lot easier to play asin my opinion.

So you actually used the hitbox patch? Heh, I refuse to do that, but oh well, everyone has their own way of doing things. Just a question, how humiliating would it be to beat the PCB extra without managing to capture a single spellcard? I feel as if that's going to happen with the ridiculous amounts of borders I keep getting.

>>7349534
the number of borders has nothing to do with whether you capture the card or not.

>normal w/ hitbox patch
>6 months of practice.

what.

>>7349544

I keep using them as a get out of jail free card, that's why.

OP here, I just gave Extra a try. I'd seen it in videos a few times but I've never done it til now.

I lost my last life on zero health remaining for Ripples... replay in mediafire link.

http://www.mediafire.com/?gi8vuuyk3s7n3ql

>>7349534
I downloaded EoSD from my friend's PC, it came patched. I don't see the big deal with having your your hitbox on there, every other game has it.

>>7349568

Everyone has their own ways. I dunno, I keep it without the hitbox since I don't feel as if I should change it. Then again, EoSD is the game that frustrates me the most. It's the only game I'll rage bomb at.

>>7349561
wtf you got to her last card on your first try?

>>7349568
You are diluting your experience, visible hitbox wasn't intended.

>>7349580
I had to do a few retries in the early stage because I wasn't used to the stage fairies, and once after ragequitting patchouli (how the fuck does her 2nd card work??), but that was the first time I'd seen any of flandre's cards. I freaked out when I realized I made it all the to her survival card and forgot to move through the first wave before it closed.

>>7349591
I find it hard to comprehend how you can take 6 months to 1cc esod and then get that far on extra in one day. extra always takes me way longer.

>>7349591
Forgot to add; most of flandre's cards seemed like twitch dodge stuff and a little memorization of where to be, but I got really messed up on maze. I couldn't figure how to get into the gaps safely. Can you sit at the bottom of the screen during maze and dodge through gaps or are they too small to fit?

>>7349597
I didn't mean practicing just EoSD. I started playing in general 6 months ago, and have 1CC'ed most of the other games already. I've also already cleared PCB Extra/Phantasm, IN Extra, and working on MoF Extra now.

>>7349525
>does anyone have any tips for Yuyuko on Lunatic using Marisa

Memorize her shit. Her first spell and Resurrection Butterfly are like the only things that can't be manipulated, and after you've seen 80% Reflowering enough you'll pick up on the patterns.

"Follow by example" http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=13750

The only tips I can give. Point at stuff if you want an explanation.

So, how do I stop skill degradation? Every time I play EoSD, I get worse each playthrough rather than better. It's gotten to the point where I use eight bombs on Meiling just because I'm annoyed to no end at how much worse I got. It's not happening with any other game.

>>7349614
You're probably not getting worse, just getting more frustrated. Just try to keep a clear mind instead of letting mistakes bother you.

>>7349633

That's the thing, the rage is the only thing getting me to stage five. Otherwise I die to god damn Cirno of all bosses and have to start over, then Rumia, then I just go on a rampage and end up dying at stage 5. I used to be able to get to stage 6 and it makes me sad.

Is it just me or are the PCB scores fucking ENORMOUS compared to the other games?

I have a 450 mil score with sakuya B on easy (suck too much to 1cc normal, always die at yuyuko. Even though I had full lifes after stage 5)

How to Gold medal
Open universe,Test Slave and Big Crunch?
I just can't Gold medal these.

>>7349652
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/High_scores

It's above average.

>>7349642
I don't understand how rage is helping you get through stages.

>>7349652

You're playing on easy and wondering why you get such high scores?

>>7349674

I don't get it either. It doesn't happen with the other games, only EoSD. Of course, it hurts as well considering I shouldn't be using eight bombs on Meiling of all bosses just because I die to her once, but otherwise I just would have quit then and there. Dying to a boss even though you know their patterns inside and out is heartbreaking. But rage is the only thing that gets me to use all my bombs in EoSD, even if I'm overusing them.

>HELP LOLI IS SHOOTING AT ME, WHAT DO I DO?!

>>7349601
Yeah, you can cheese Maze like that. It's a tight fit, but it's definitely doable.
Probably the one thing that's actually made easier with the hitbox patch.

>>7349716
You can actually do that on Lunatic as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvqJWRLHpq4

And here's one I found myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh0NTrrwV7o

>>7349724
I got raped the first time I tried this, but I think next time through I'll have it down. Its odd I can't get the pattern down to do it the right way, especially since I can do Ran/Yukari's similar cards very easily.

Any tips for doing Reisen's Mind Stopper with no horizontal movements? On the second freeze, she always either bumps into me or she traps me at the top and staying at the bottom doesn't look like it would work.

>>7349654
If you've gotten a gold medal on everything else, fuck you.

Can't motivate myself to even try UFO hard (only game I have to 1cc on hard).

>>7349764
Are you >>7346520? Your double spark replay is messed up.

Any tips for having the endurance to take seven pictures in StB/DS? I can't beat many cards that takes more than five shots, and even then it's really hard to just get five.

>>7349764
I was just able to get three or so freezes by staying at the bottom, I'd say it's your best bet.
It's kinda shitty though because it's rather heavily RNG-dependent. You need to be able to get back to the middle quickly but sometimes you simply can't because of how the bullets are patterned.

>>7349790
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=13751
No it's not.
>>7349813
I guess I'll start trying it at the bottom then.

I finally beat Nazrin Rod to be greeted by this monstrosity. This is going to be a very long battle.

>>7349839
Just managed to pull it off, want me to upload?

>>7349877
Sure.

>>7349774
Well... still need to Gold medal "Super perseid"

But it looks like they are impossible to.

>>7349910
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=13756

>>7349919
This replay made me realize exactly what I did wrong. Thanks.

>>7349960
No problem.

Out of curiosity, what was it?

>>7349973
I was moving a little bit too slow, so the bullets would aim towards the bottom.

I feel like I've hit a wall in progress. Or at least, it's coming along very, very slowly. I'm playing through the same stages on Lunatic mode with little improvement. It gets to the point where there's so many bullets that i can't keep track of them all. I can't think of a way to improve besides just playing through the same stages over and over again.

>>7350506
Play StB.

General question for you guys:

I play on a 32" TV, which doesn't seem to like playing these games fullscreen, so I have to play in windowed. With only one resolution, the games end up being really small and it makes most of the bosses impossible. Any idea how to fix this problem? I've tried several things, to no avail... and sitting closer to my TV is extremely uncomfortable.

>>7350531
Can't you edit the resolution in vpatch.ini?

>>7350539
Yeah I was hoping there'd just be a file I could edit stuff in, but all I get are applications to adjust settings and they only give me the Fullscreen or Windowed options
Otherwise, I don't see any vpatch.ini file...

>>7350556
That's because you haven't downloaded it yet.
http://www.mediafire.com/?izzv1lmnamm

>>7350563
Oh wow, this looks incredibly helpful.
Thank you very much! I'm sorry I have nothing to give you in return...

>>7350563
Figures this thing doesn't seem to want to work with EoSD. I see that it has special instructions, but those don't seem to be working. Any suggestions?

>>7350623
Details on what you did would help.

Agreed, if there is anything you can do to speed up the voice patch you would be happy to help as would many ppl to shorten the ungodly wait of 3 days.

>>7350628
Right, right. I just figured he'd know what I meant, since EoSD and Uwabami Breakers are the only games with special instructions.

I copied the three files into the EoSD directory, renamed the executable to "東方紅魔郷," made some edits to vpatch.ini and ran the patch. A pop up comes up with corrupt text, then nothing happens.
Everything works fine on Imperishable Night at least, so I assume the problem is with naming the executable.

Works fine, never played the original-but goddamn is the translation by mangagamers fucking atrocious.

Every time.

>>7350585
Aw, don't worry about it. You're quite welcome.

>>7350645
>corrupt text
You'll need to set your system locale to Japanese. I'm not sure if applocale works, haven't had any experience with it.

And be sure that you renamed the Touhou executable to 東方紅魔郷.exe, not the vpatch executable. Someone had that problem yesterday.

>>7350778
haha Yeah, I definitely did that the first time (changed the vpatch exe), but, like I said, I got it working fine on IN so I know I'm doing something right.

Still not working on Japanese locale (still get corrupt text). Oh well, I'll play around with it some more. Thanks for all the help!

>>7350509
I've beaten StB and I can barely deal with hard mode.

>>7350797
Rename your th06.exe to the jap name, and all SHOULD be fine. Heck, even renaming your th06e.exe would work, giving you the vsycn patch in english.

I just lost my last life at 00 of yuyu's last spellcard.

Was trying to 1cc reimuB because that was the only character I hadn't gotten a 1cc on for some reason. Man how did I even fuck up that bad

replay here:
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=13757

>>7350896
Can't stand it when that happens.

OP here. I either got really lucky my first try on Extra, or I'm really not in a good mindset to play now. I've been trying to clear this extra stage for the past 5 hours, I haven't even got to Ripple once after that first try.

Does anyone else get constant twitches, or urges to scratch somewhere in the middle of the game? I swear, I have to pause every 30 seconds to scratch my nose or something. Getting extremely annoying.

>Does anyone else get constant twitches, or urges to scratch somewhere in the middle of the game?

Yes.

Then I usually die from doing so and rage about it and restart.

Is it sad that I can capture Yuyuko's last spell in PCB on Hard yet I can't capture it for the life of me on Easy?

>>7350903
>>7350896
The worst is when the bullets don't clear fast enough that you die after you've killed the boss. I find that this happens the most in UFO...

>>7351108
MoF is extremely bad about this.

Oh yeah, speaking of such that same thing happened to me on Gates's final suicide attack in Samidare extra. I was so close to finally seeing VIVIT after so much effort. Ugh.

>>7350968
First of all, play without the hitbox patch. Adding to what >>7349581 said, the whole difficulty is not having a hitbox, the bullets in EoSD are not as cluttered together as in the other games.

That said, about the frustration-makes-me-lose issue,
yeah, everyone has had it before. But you know why it happens? It's because of your own raised expectations. The first time you play after a long time, you anticipate the difficulty ahead, you KNOW you'll die in some parts and prepare your mind accordingly, you're looking at a biger part of the screen, you bombs in time, etc.
Now,that's all good, but what happens the second time you play?
"Yeah, I dodged this before, I should have no problem, besides, let's not waste any bombs on th-"
>pichun.mp3
When you lose attention on a moderately difficult part, you raise your own chances of dying. Yeah, I know, but you did this before. Well, you wouldn't have done this before if you had thought you could breeze through it. Don't let hindsight bias overtake you, you genuinely thought it would be challenging the first time, that's why you tried and that's why you got past it in the first place. But what do you do now?
It's simple, anticipate it again. Drop your ego and decide you're going to bomb, even if you had chances of survival. What's that? You'll die later anyway? That's nice, at least you won't die now.

Also, you have to enter that condition you were in when you played the later stages. That state of mind like you're on sugar high or speed, when you move too fast and everything else seems to move too slow. Constantly expect something hard to appear and try to keep that thought for the rest of the game. It's hard not relaxing for a moment in the middle of the stage, but that's the name of the game.

Also, playing on lunatic for a bit with continues helps a lot.

>>7351235
Thanks for the advice, its appreciated. I'll try the lunatic thing tomorrow, too tired right now.

I just done this an hour ago. First Touhou I 1cc on hard.

>>7351235
Yes, relying on memory can screw you all up. The longer you play in a session the more that becomes an issue. I like to pause and tab out and do other stuff for 10 or 15 minutes so my perspective is more outside when I come back.

>>7351474
I mean, I do that between runs. Not like between stages 4 and 5.

>>7351468
>just done
>DONE
Sure i'm tired.

>>7351468
>Player Pentality * 0.5
>1cc

>>7351235

I dunno, it's less like I've expected it before, and more of oh I've beaten this 50 times before, this shouldn't be any different. But now I'm losing. Maybe it's because I'm going into super suicidal shotgun like crazy mode, but I kind of do that not to lose as well since I don't want to drag the fight out. I don't have bomb ego problems in other games since I actually do bomb on Kogasa of all characters as well, then again it's partially because of that train spellcard. EoSD is the only game I really hate using bombs on. I don't understand it.

Okay. That's it. I'm done with EoSD. It's just not worth it any more. I'm just going to play some PCB.

touhou sucks

>>7353277

FUCK YOU I SO FUCKING MAD FUCKING FAGGOT GET OUT YOU MAD ASS FUCK SHIT

>>7351108
...that's what happened to me on my first UFO 1cc (well...it was supposed to be 1cc), I died on slowdown that occures after beating boss (Byakuren). I was mad.

>>7353300

>CHE CHE CHE CHE CHE CHE PAJEOWPAOW

>Pchun

it happens to the best of us

>>7353300

I feel kind of lucky this never happened to me. Although that PCB glitch where one of the Prismrivers stays and can kill you got me the first time I played PCB and made me lose my last life. I was really surprised at that, let me tell you.

>>7353322
I've never had that happen, but it sounds pretty hilarious.

>>7353322
ξ ﾟ∀ﾟ) ~DQN

Finally cleared Extra. I got to Ripples with two lives somehow, even managing to "capture And then will there be none?" (only third time I'd seen it). I'm so glad I can be done playing EoSD Extra for a while, that last second death to Ripple my first try was agonizing. Replay below.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=13773

>>7355044

How'd you manage that so quickly? Usually takes me months to get a single game down. How much do you play a day?

>>7355044
Cheater

Next up : SA Normal 1cc. This one's gonna be tough.

Does it still count if you 1cc IN with 7 starting lives? (on normal. I'm not very good...)

>>7355048
This extra took me 2 days to do, but the first one I cleared (IN) took me nearly a month of practice. I play about 4 hours a day usually.

>>7355057

That explains things I guess. I usually play an hour or two a week.

>>7355055
You are technically "one continue clearing" the game, but most people don't count 1cc's from anything but default starting lives.

>>7355055
It counts as far as unlocking Extra and stuff like that goes, but if you mean in a philosophical sense a real 1cc is with default (i.e. 3) starting lives.

>>7355065
>>7355095
Guess I'll need to find a way to hold on to 4 more lives...
which extra would you say is more feasible, IN or MoF?

>>7355095

That might help me with cheesing EoSD a bit. But I don't want to touch that game for a long time anyways. PCB and IN are easy anyways so it's not needed for those games I think.

>>7355113

MoF easily. I can't even reach Mokou, I can easily get to Suwako though.

I remember when everyone said Mokou was the easiest extra boss.

>>7355113
They're pretty similar overall, I'd say. Well, assuming you're using Border Team.

>>7355121
She kinda is.

>>7355121
I don't think shes really easy, I think that you can memorize her attacks in spell practice makes clearing her much easier. In terms of difficulty, her actual spells are pretty hard. Fujiyama Volcano still kicks my ass every time, and I'll probably never capture Hourai Doll.

>>7355132
Solo Youmu at full power makes Hourai Doll depressingly easy.

>>7355121

Maybe it's just me, but I'm having the least troubles with Ran. The other extras I've unlocked are kicking my ass, I almost managed to beat Ran however.

Good job, OP. I've still yet to 1cc any of them even on easy mode.

If only I could be young again...

>>7355127
Easiest is Ran or Mugetsu+Gengetsu (if you're used to PC98s).

Is there a trick to Suwako's "Two Bows, Two Claps and One bow"? I saw on some replays that somehow all the lasers she shoots go behind her.

>>7355179
Yeah, you have to dash to the side and back on the red-red wave, to the same side as the blue wave in the blue-red wave. It's hard to explain, you'll need to either watch a replay or I guess figure it out by yourself. The fact that the blue wave is a lot longer than the red wave is a pretty good hint, you wanna redirect all the bullets over to that side.

>>7355187
This appears to be more of a glitch...
look here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du5mgVAk2Lk#t=03m48s

looks like it was triggered by the player standing behind Suwako at the beginning of her first non-card

>>7355187

Huh, I've been having the same problem, that card gets me. Actually, all of hers get me. Can't capture a single one, get to her fourth at best. Just bomb like the wind...

>>7355219
Suwako's first half is all tricks. I'm not fond of those. I've never captured Jade River or the hopping frog one.

>>7355248

That make sense. She's just tricky then. What are some extra bosses that aren't tons of crazy tricks? Ran feels like the only one that's not so tricky when compared to the others. The other extras I unlocked demolish me.

>>7355217
Oh, like that? Weird. Never saw that before.

>>7355248
Yeah, I was about to capture Jade River since I realized how to do it like 15 minutes ago, but then I careened into a bullet at the very end of it. Sigh.

At least I captured Mishaguji-sama for the first time.

Does anyone have any good Touhou gameplay videos? Ones where you watch it and think "How the fuck did he do that??"
One vid that comes to mind is some crazy Japanese player on StB flying circles around the boss with a million bullets flying everywhere and managed to capture the shot. Someone posted the link here a while ago.

>>7355262
Flan, Koishi, and Nue seemed better about that than the rest. I'm wavering on Koishi but she's more like "my brain can't handle this pattern" than "I have no idea how to approach this". But everyone has at least 1 or 2 tricky spellcards that can stop your runs dead until you solve them.

>>7355514

Oh great, the less tricky extras are the ones I can't unlock. I was hoping that wasn't the case...Thanks for the answer though.

Perfect run until I got to Princess Tenko Illusion, which I was hit 3 times on ;__;

At least this is only my fourth try, though.

>>7355179
The different colored "bow" is the one you "graze" to redirect the two "claps".

Also, Flandre cleared just now after months of EoSD-abstinence (and without hitbox patch). Now I can move on to Koishi without regrets about previous bosses not cleared.

>>7355634
Flan's fun. I need to go back and get good at her one of these days. I found her patterns challenging yet not-annoying compared to several other ex bosses.

>>7355657

This makes me want to give EoSD another chance. But it's too hard. I'll stick with Fairy Wars extra I guess, that's pretty fun.

>>7355668
I really don't think EoSD Extra is so hard. That is to say, I haven't even seen the Extra in FW, but I can only guess it's harder than Flan.

(Also here's the score for good measure)

>>7355685

I'd like to say I know, but I haven't beaten EoSD yet. It's kicking my ass, and I don't want anything to do with it for a long, long time.

>>7355514
Funny, Flan was the last one I cleared and I still can't get past Nue and Koishi's final ones. On the other hand, I haven't touched Touhou this year other than for TD and even when I used to play it was something like an hour per week.

>>7355696
I know how you feel, hell I still sperg around on Maze of Love

FUCK Maze of Love

>>7355685
>I haven't even seen the Extra in FW, but I can only guess it's harder than Flan.
It's actually really easy. There is tons of opportunity for extra lives, so it's not hard to end up with max lives.

>>7355657
Idiot
Pervert
Pedophile
Shit
and .... human? Human's an insult eh?

>>7355730

Oh well, at least I can mess around with the other games. I might just not ever play EoSD ever again, I dunno. It's really depressing me.

>>7355733

I wouldn't say really easy exactly, but it's certainly not too difficult in comparison, Fairy Wars just gives away lives and bombs like crazy. There are certain cards that are just hell though. I'm currently looking at Test Slave and Big Crunch.

>>7355668
FW extra is great too. Very high energy. I think my favorites are 4, 6, and 12.8. But I'm not especially good at any of them.

>>7355733
Yeah I can get them, but I can't hold onto them. My best so far is 750%.

>>7355743
good description of me either way

>>7355756

If you use your bombs and freeze well, holding onto them shouldn't be that bad. That's how it feels like to me. Yet I can't apply this bomb usage to any of the other games for some reason...

Just played StB and noticed a card I never played...It was really easy, got it on my first try. I believe it as 4-8, I was kind of surprised I hadn't played it before.

Killed her on lunatic
Her face when
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeZOB_csPjw

I just tried to 1CC EoSD on lunatic and died 5 times in the library then continued on remi's last non-card

It's this kind of shit that makes me hate myself for not giving up after I die once

6 MONTHS for NORMAL?

What the hell are you doing?

>>7357146
see
>>7349607

>>7357145

I'm in the opposite situation. I tend to give up too easily.

Spell cards that can go fuck themselves: Royal Flare, Wind Blowing Down from Mt. Ooe (hard), Philosophy of a hated person, Any X Spark and Idling Wave, Reisen's only hard card, especially the hard version.

Spell card that can SERIOUSLY go fuck itself: Genetics of the Subconscious

I'm currently stuck on 1cc'ing SA hard..

I get pretty far if I get to stage 6, but most of the time stage 5 and especially Orin rape 4-6 lifes out of me. Okuu is much easier on hard than her, if you ask me..

Shit is getting frustrating

>>7357168
>Royal Flare
It sucks, but just memorize it.
>Wind Blowing Down from Mt. Ooe (hard)
Expand your field of vision and it's not that hard.
>Philosophy of a hated person
Center, upper half of the screen for blue/yellow waves. Then run laps. Love it.
>Any X Spark
Intentionally misdirect them and life will be easier.

>Idling Wave, Reisen's only hard card, especially the hard version.
Mess around with it in spell practice and come up with a route that safely misdirects those aimed shots.
>Spell card that can SERIOUSLY go fuck itself: Genetics of the Subconscious
Yeah, well, you just suck.

>>7357188

Practice mode is your friend for Orin. Most of her cards can be made much easier if you go in with the right strategy.

>>7357168
>Royal Flare
It sucks, but just memorize it.
>Wind Blowing Down from Mt. Ooe (hard)
Expand your field of vision and it's not that hard. Anticipate when the wind direction is going to change to make sure you don't trap yourself.
>Philosophy of a hated person
Center, upper half of the screen for blue/yellow waves. Then run laps. Learn it, love it.
>Any X Spark
Intentionally misdirect the laser and life will be easier.
>Idling Wave, Reisen's only hard card, especially the hard version.
Mess around with it in spell practice and come up with a route that safely misdirects those aimed shots.
>Spell card that can SERIOUSLY go fuck itself: Genetics of the Subconscious
Yeah, well, you just suck.

>>7357168
But Philosophy is awesome. The second part can get incredibly intense. And Genetics isn't all that bad.

Is the demo for 13 just really easy or have I gotten better?

>>7357238
He made it intentionally easier, as well as it's only the first three stages.
But you probably have gotten a bit better too.

>>7357238


it's easy, though the lives might be a bit shorter than some other games when the full version comes out.

>>7357188
/jp/ proudly presents,

the Official how-to-beat-that-fucking-cat guide!

>>7357275

The guide for idiots like me: bomb every spellcard. I still lose four lives though...

>>7357275
>RUM
Dammit... Now I'll never be able to not see that.

Oh my god, Test Slave is the most evil spellcard I've ever encountered. Five lives and two bombs lost to that monstrosity alone. I can't hurt her without losing motivation or getting into extremely risky territory. Big Crunch somewhat related for being tough as well.

>>7357275

Thank you.
Problem is that beside one spell card I already did everything in this guide. I beat her on normal without any bombs/lifes. On hard however...

Oh well, maybe I'll really practice-mode the shit out of her..

>>7357560
hold X for freeze

>>7357653

I don't have enough freezing to beat it...I'd need double that amount to beat it. When I don't have it, I'm forced to dodge both blue and red bullets then I'm dead. Not only that, I can't actually hit Marisa without using my freeze. On a completely unrelated note, how come no one ever told me about that cat in the background?

What the hell is wrong with this nonspell.

>>7357683
The hitbox of the bullets isn't the entire radius of the bullet's grafic, y'know.

>>7357696
Thanks for the advice, Einstein.

>>7357711
Which is why you don't dodge them up there, you dodge them sitting where you are when they expand. Surely you're familiar with how circles work.

>>7357560
I can make a vid if you don't understand it
Lol ;___;

>>7357711
But your hitbox is also a bit less than it seems to be, so you can fit through.

>>7357741

I see. I'm not very good at redirection yet. I managed a couple miracle dodges on it and went between those blue stars somehow. Don't want to rely on something that difficult to perform though.

>>7357742
Yeah, you're right, what I meant is: what the hell does a clockwork precision dodge do in a stage 2 nonspell. And the damn wave of spirit-orbs doesn't make things easier.

I hate to bomb before stage 3, but the gaps in this nonspell are just so random that I always have to lose a bomb here.

Started playing Touhou games 3 weeks ago and beat IN on normal last friday and done around 80% of StB. All the other games seem to have god awful controls, hit detection or something. I can't even beat them on easy. Makes no sense.

>>7357783
Duno, as for me, this nonspell is pretty easy compared to two others Mystia's.

>>7357798
Seriously, you lost me. The other nonspells are the same, but with much bigger gaps, and less spirit orbs.

>Started playing Touhou games 3 weeks ago
>done around 80% of StB
>can't even beat other games on easy
what?

>>7357810
Yep. I have no idea how thats possible. It feels like I'm getting killed by hitting nothing in the other games.

>>7357807
I wasn't really talking about nonSC. The two I was talking about is second midboss attack (if I'm not mistaken) and...don't really remember, but it's one of the first Mystia's SC with purple bullets or something. Bullets coming from all direction without system, not amusing.

>>7357813
You can say that non-PC games have troubles with movement smoothness (but even those are not that bad). Other games have no serious troubles to mention (well, Marisa's bugged lasers in th10 excluding). May be there is something wrong with your PC.
But flying into bullets without noticing them happens to me when I play to much - can't sustain concetration.

>>7357853
Meh, maybe I've just had bad luck until now.

When do these games stop being frustrating and become fun?

This game it's so hard...

>>7357951

When you stop expecting to win any time soon. I sometimes get my kicks from playing Lunatic and being amazed at how utterly I got destroyed and how silly some cards are, or when I push forth in a game even though I expect to lose and I just don't care anymore.

>>7357974

hard? really?

try this

>>7357978
I think around 700 ingame hours on IN, mostly hard/lunatic mode practice would be enough to 1cc the game, right? I see faggots 1ccing it here within 60 hours while I'm struggling past stage 4 after 700 hours. With an addition of 400 hours in total for other games, I shouldn't be so shitty. ;_;

>>7357998
Autism, do you have it?

>>7357998

Oh yeah, I was that 60 hours guy...But how come you aren't making any progress? That honestly doesn't make any sense to me. How often are you bombing?

>>7358014
I wish. Then I would have an excuse for being so shitty.

>>7357998
Everyone has a different learning curve. Just enjoy the game without thinking you're playing to get better, and don't rush it. You'll improve without even knowing.

>>7358025
I mostly bomb when I know I'm about to die, and that usually turns out to be a death-bomb because of my shit reflexes.The game has recently depressed me too much so I haven't played much since then. I play about a few tries a day now.

>>7358034

A deathbomb is fine, although not on IN I guess...Maybe you should try MoF more? Seems like it would be more forgiving for a 1cc if you manage to deathbomb often. PCB also doesn't punish you on deathbomb when it comes to survival.

Decided to give Ran another go, I was surprised I was actually managing to capture a few spellcards consistently. Sure, I died at Ultimate Buddhist since I didn't bomb enough, but considering I've only gone against Ran about six times and only making it to that card three times, I'd say that's pretty good progress.

>>7358034

I'm doing this all the time, running into bullets if I'm trapped to deathbomb.
It's not making a difference to normal bombing but I just got used to it..

Venting my frustration here, as I can't apparently play for shit anymore.

Used to play EoSD on normal every now and then, even 1cc'd it once. Altough I did abuse bombs alot on that run. Anyway, I recently got myself a copy of EoSD and thought to start training it bit more seriously.

Used to pull off the first 3 stages without death or too much hassle, but now I seem to die constantly in rather silly places during these stages. I also have the bad habit of instantly quitting after first death(s), so even as I played before I didn't get to see 5th or 6th stage too much. I also don't use bombs as much as I should.

Guess I need to train, train some more aswell as just bite the bullet if I face death instead of giving up instantly.

>>7358229

Do you have the vpatch installed?

>>7358237

Nope. Never had.

Should I install it then? It's on the edge of "cheating" in my books.

>>7358240
It's really not. Input lag is hardly intentional.

>>7358240

I'd say get it. EoSD is a huge pain to me because of input lag.

>>7358240

Do it. Completely changed EoSD for me.

I was working on EoSD Extra for fucking months, installed the vpatch and got it on the second attempt while capturing Maze of Love by staying on the bottom and micrododging, which was simply impossible before.

I wouldn't consider it cheating, either, unlike the lack of a hitbox I'm sure the input lag isn't a feature.

Pic related, before the vpatch

>>7358263
So how many people have the EoSD grafics overhaul? Personally I think it manages to look worse than the original.

>>7358246

Hehe, guess so. Maybe I thought I'm a tough guy if I'm playing the game gimped.

>>7358248

Alright, I'll install it. Thanks for the suggestion guys.

>>7358263

I was about to say something about me wanting to fix the problem I'm having with vpatch but I fixed it on accident...I guess now I can actually play EoSD now.

>>7358269

I've kept mine unmodified outside of the translation patch. The copy of the game I downloaded did come with the re-texture patch, but I decided not to useit.

>>7358284

This is amazing, it's working like a charm. I'm back to the dodging I used to be able to do. This is what I'm talking about.

I'm having so much fun with EoSD lunatic. it's like I'm really trying to get my first normal 1CC again.

97.30%, so close~

I personally think the retexture patch looks horrible, yellow health bar? euck and the sprites look silly.

This feels kind of weird playing EoSD with vpatch. I didn't think I was this good. Although I kind of cheesed Sakuya with Master Spark admittedly...What do you think are my chances?

>>7358269
When I first downloaded the game it came with the overhaul, I think. That or I installed it and forgot about it. I recently redownloaded EoSD without the graphics patch, reading that you found the original to be superior.

Having played it for a week or so, I prefer the unmodified original graphics by far.

>>7358306
I'm starting to love that face.

Managed to 1cc EoSD finally. I guess that patch did the trick. Although I kind of bomb spammed against Sakuya and Remilia. I'm sorry you guys, I'll fight you guys for real next time.

EoSD is so fucking rage worthy to me right now. I installed the vpatch and I couldn't believe the difference it makes, still, EoSD is fucking hard for me. It's normal is almost like most other games hard. I've been playing it for the past week and I am getting better I will say.

I need to keep watching other people replays and keep at it and I feel I can 1'cc it eventually. Hell even Cirno used to give me trouble but I've actually cleared the first stage recently without any deaths. Meiling stills gives me a tad bit of trouble, Patchouli is not impossible for me anymore but somehow Sakuya still rapes my shit. I've only cleared this game twice, once today and once last night. Even then I had to litterly bomb the shit out of Remilia and use all 3 continues to win.

I'm getting better though, I think.

>>7358270

Here. Just had a quick test with the patch and...

Is this real life? It feels so much better than before! Now I only have to get used to it, since when I tried playing with Marisa it felt like suddenly driving a formula.

Fast and responsive.

After my first taste of EoSD Extra, I'd say it's pretty tough. But fun as well. Royal Flare seems like a pain in the ass, I may just Master Spark that. But it's not a good habit to just Master Spark everything, I won't get better like that.

>>7358452

I always use the cheap Marisa A method... I've never tried playing that card seriously

>>7358510

I use Marisa B so I wouldn't know. Master Spark just blows her away though, it can be my fail-proof strategy if I'm about to die.

>>7358452

I've beaten EoSD extra a few times and never captured Royal Flare, it isn't worth it if all you want to do is beat it. There is a safe spot though.

Oh for god's sake...

This isn't technically Touhou, but after weeks upon weeks of trying I finally beat (and survived after beating) Gates, and made it to VIVIT in Samidare's extra stage. And died within two seconds of starting the fight.

Whyyyyy...

>>7358520

It'll be a second objective on my list. Try to capture it, if I feel as if I'm too at risk during that attempt then I'll just bomb it. If I do manage to learn it, that's one bomb saved that I might need later.

Yeah, Marisa A makes Royal Flare depressingly easy.

How come PCB will only allow me to use Sakuya in the extra stage? I've completed normal with all 3 girls.

>>7358568
You say completed, but have you 1cc'd it with all the girls?

Other than that there shouldn't be any reason you wouldn't be able to use them in extra, unless you're trying to do Phantasm.

OP here, I give up on SA Normal for a while. Its just ridiculous.

How do I go about removing the hitbox patch from EoSD? Is there a patch to uninstall it, or would I need a new install? Feel like redoing my 1cc and Extra clear without it, to prove the people saying "cheater" and shit like that wrong.

>>7358538
I used to be awful on Royal Flare, but lately I've captured it 3/4 tries. You have to loop around to the bottom left corner during the second wave.

>>7358621
>prove the people saying "cheater" and shit like that wrong.
You don't really need to prove anything but keep in mind that it's much harder without a hitbox. The time it took me to complete Flandre's "Taboo Love Maze" is unbelievable, but I suck anyway so...
Better see for yourself, right?

Does the vpatch also help with PCB?

>>7358656

Yes, by quite a bit. Vpatch is extremely helpful for games 6-8. For the others, I don't really feel a need to use them.

>>7358621
Give me a couple minutes to upload my base versions of the dat files.

>>7358672
Ugh, Mediafire was being unhelpful so I had to go with 2shared.
http://www.2shared.com/file/qm-YZSPm/unhitbox.html

Just put 'em in the folder like how you installed the patch.

>>7358630
>>7358681Thanks

>>7358681
Thanks

bump

>>7358621
http://www.mediafire.com/?tnyentanqyu

Or even better, the original retexture package with all the options.

>>7358630
Or just do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E94EYSaYoE

>>7360897
Only works with Marisa A as far as I'm aware

Bleh, the EoSD Extra stage is wrecking me. I feel as if I need bombs to get through. A lot of bombs. Oh well, may as well get to practicing then.

>>7361105
Protip: Use bombs. They will get you further than your last run.

>>7361133

I've been using bombs. But I feel like I'm getting too reliant on them. In a jam? Bomb everything. Even if I can see an opening? Bomb it anyways.

I'm contemplating whether to stop using Sakuya A in PCB. Even on Lunatic everything feels like a joke in comparison to other difficulties. I had more trouble on MoF Hard than PCB Lunatic so far.

>>7361141
Good enough. Time for change of strategy. No bombs. Every time you lose a life, you FUCKING QUIT AND START OVER. Try to do this until you can clear Alice without bombs or lives lost.
>>7361298
Play Reimu B or Marisa A like a real man.

>>7361311

That was how I used to play. Forgot bombs all the time and just went and shot at everything. Also, I still want to use Sakuya, since she sucks terribly in IN without Remilia, so PCB is the game I use her in. I might try Sakuya B, but she feels really weird to use.

I'm curious, does the vsync patch matter that much in EoSD? I never experienced this "input lag" people keep talking about, so I'm not sure if installing the patch would make a difference.

>>7361327

Try it out, if you don't notice a difference then don't use it.

Any way to make the IN Extra more bearable? Keine is destroying me, I can only capture one of her cards, and only once in a while. No, don't recommend Border Team or something like that.

>>7361781
There are "safe" areas for her first and third cards, that you can start out at and then slowly stream the aimed shots between the gaps in patterned shots. I'll upload a replay in a moment, hang on.

>>7361823

I've got the idea for her second and third actually, I'll probably just go practice them in spell practice mode or something.

>>7361838
This replay will help you on her first then. Just take note of exactly where I'm starting at during each wave, waves 1 and 3 are the same, 2 and 4 are the same.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=13788

>>7361895

I see. Actually, I didn't know there were red bullets during the card, I always needed to bomb it soon after it started.

Well I absolutely got crushed by Flandre. It was kind of funny how easily I lost though. I'm gonna have fun with this.

I 1CC'd IN on Normal about 10 days ago, and went straight to hard after that. Stage 5's spellcards always beat my ass, despite them being relatively simplistic on Normal. Just earlier I went into Stage 5 with 2 lives and 3 bombs, only for me to die about halfway through the stage. That was embarrassing.

Should I go for SA or UFO normal 1cc next? I'm pretty close with both of them, although I'd say I'm closer to beating UFO. I'm less consistent in it though, so I'm not sure.

>>7363326
UFO, if you don't have too much trouble with stage 5.

>>7363350

I kind of do. Although I can capture her first spellcard. I just bombspam through her, same with Orin. I lose less lives on Shou, though. It's just that the parts before stage 5 give me more trouble than SA. I actually have to bomb Kogasa.

>>7363326
SA, at least be consistent. Don't worry, both can equally kick your fucking ass.

>>7363364

I'm not sure which one to go for next. Furthest I got in SA was Blazing Star. Furthest I got in UFO was Flying Fantastica, which I would have 1cc'd if I just got one more life or bomb piece. The problem is if I miss a single UFO it could mean the end, and generally stages 1-4 are harder for me in UFO. The problem for me in SA is that during stage 5 it devolves into a hell that takes all my lives. I usually make it to stage 6 on both with about one life left. I've only made it to the final boss of both about three times.

There should be a Touhou game with a big focus on rank so it's easier to beat but with more potential to be hard.

>>7363385
Looks like SA will be easier for you then. Thing is, sometimes in Stage 5, you have to stop shooting and just let the minions that explode with bullets fly off the screen. As for the cat herself, practicing >>7357275 will get you far. Don't be afraid to replay Stage 5 on Practice a lot.

>>7363390
IN
Try to capture all of Teruyo's Last Words on Lunatic.

>>7363414

It's mostly the cat. I already know not to shoot at certain points. Stages 1-3 are easy for me, one bomb used at most. Stage 4 isn't bad except for Satori because she makes Reimu A runs kind of annoying. Actually, Utsuho gives me tons of troubles as well. The only time I made it to her with five lives, I only made it as far as Blazing Star. I can't deal with curvy bullets that come from behind me. Curvy lasers are nothing in comparison. I dunno, I guess I'd say the difficulty for UFO starts harder and only increases steadily while for SA it feels somewhat easy until there's a massive wall out of nowhere.

>>7363390
I like the way DOJ does rank. I don't like ones where it invisibly crawls up as you play or do other, poorly understood things. So something where you can deliberately raise and lower it would be fun.

>>7363390
>There should be a Touhou game with a big focus on rank
Reminded me of this:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9660187

I've been unable to get Story of Eastern Wonderland to play smoothly on my computer, and because my autism prevents me from playing the touhou games in any order other than the order they came out (the fighting games are an exception), I've been trying to 1 CC Highly Responsive to Prayers on Lunatic

This shit is insane. Goddamn. Like, it was a fun game before because the bosses were so cool to fight, but the stages merely felt like filler. Now, though? Holy shit. Just HOLY SHIT. It's at least AS awesome trying to not die against these fucking block-bullets as it is fighting the bosses themselves

This shit is the most fun I've had in a long time

Fucking UFO Extra.

>>7363603
But Nue is one of the easier Extra bosses.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=13071

>>7363636
I was talking about the Stage itself. Fuck UFO Extra.

>>7363646
I would fuck Nue's ass.

>>7363646
Then use SanaeB and destroy everything before it gets the chance to be difficult.

6 months to 1CC all games?
That's nice time.

>>/v/

something i've always wondered. Does starting with max 4 stars count as 1cc?
And what do misses even mean?

>>7366168
No and a miss is dying or bombing.

>>7366168
It counts as far as the game is concerned, but the most standard definition of a 1cc is with default lives.

>>7366192
I'm pretty sure regular bombs aren't misses, not sure if deathbombs are or not.

This thread lasted a lot longer than I expected.

>>7362132 here.

Did a lot better today, for some reason. I was really feeling it and nearly 1CC'd it on Hard. Got to Eiren's last spellcard before finally dying. Feels kinda bad, though I did that on Normal too, before beating the entire thing the next day. Hope.