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Are you doing this on purpose? There's already a thread about it.

Because OP is faggot

I FUCKING LOVE MUV LUV

Other thread's on autosage, moving in from
>>7191231
>>7191231

MLA Patch:
http://www.mediafire.com/?z0n3df4bd8n3d0z
Apply first partial, then overwrite data.ami.
ML Patch:
http://www.mediafire.com/?hszs6ep4q1v98tk
OSTs and such:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9992zm23kqn9y

>>7209144
So, before I download this, the mediafire link contains both the first patch and the complete data.ami, right?

>>7209166
Correct.

>>7209059
Well the scenario writer had acknowledged the formative influence upon him by Ender's Game, so I guess you have a point.

I see quite a bit of Starship Troopers in it though.

unlimited reminded me of ender's game with all the training, but alternative was more like starship troopers combined with victory gundam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aqN_kWCaqo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGHCoVzqtk
for comparison

Goddamnit Zerg.

>>7209169
I'm not sure which one of those I enjoyed more, that one, or this one.

>>7210223
Though, the former did have this though...

>>7210223
what fandisc are those from?

>>7210234
Haruko Maniax.

It shares some similarities to ender's game and starship troopers but so does all military science fiction of the last 20 years.

Look at the science fiction novels on the US Marine Corps' recommended reading list, and you will see the novels that went into Muv-Luv Alternative.

>>7210238
that takes place in the beta world?

>>7210289
Nope.
Omakes included with it.

Not enough similarities. Though I guess the fact that in the end it fell flat might be enough.

what's up with kasumi's eyes going all cat like when in her outfit, but only on the sprites during the piloting? on the regular sprites and cg they're normal.

>>7211034
I believe, it has to do with Interfacing directly with the machine or something as part of Alternative III. Inia does something similar in TE, I've heard.

Was the cg rip for the all-ages version ever uploaded?

I'm really sorry for this shit post.

What routes should I play in Unlimited and Extra before moving on to Alt? Advice would be extremely appreciated. I'm a fucking moron for thinking "I won't play Unl and Extra until Alt comes out!" Uhh.

>>7211097
Extra: Sumika and Meiya. Any of the other girls too if they catch you interest.
Unlimited: All the routes are functionally identical. So, either play the girl you like the most, or Meiya's for the one little bit of extra it has compared to the others.

>>7211131
Alright, thanks a lot for that.

well, in extra sumika and meiya ones are required to unlock unlimited. in unlimited just meiya's is good enough since they're almost all the same.

after that you can speed through the game and see the different choices and sex scenes with the rest of characters if you want.

they're all referrenced in alternative too, since apparently each route in both games was takeru doing different time loops.

>>7211097
>I'm a fucking moron for thinking "I won't play Unl and Extra until Alt comes out!"
Why? The wait was excruciating after playing Unlimited immediately after the patch was released

>>7211138
You should read Kei's in extra too, even if it can be a bit rage worthy.

unlimited's mikoto route made me like her a whole lot more, i think. maybe i just liked her from the beginning.

i chose all mikoto choices in alternative too because of that.

This has been translated for over two weeks. Why are we still getting threads about it?
Take it to /v/

>>7211183
You should be asleep, Timmy.

>>7211138
If you do any of the girl;s routes in Extra before yo do their route on Unlimited, you get some sort of flashback right before the love scene that gets explained in alt.
Not really important, but its a little extra, incase you really like that girl.

whats the progress on the sprite rip from last night?

>>7211296
I'm done, but deleting all the duplicates is a pain in the ass because EVERYTHING has its own sprite and each of those has at least 4 versions. I'm done with Extra/Unlimited and am slowly crawling through Alt. Might say to fuck it all with Altered Fable and include everything.

>>7211440
I'm looking forward to it.

>>7211440

Do I need to play Akane Maniax and Muv-Luv before playing MLA, /jp/?

>>7211770
Yes.
You need to play Kimi ga Ita Kisetsu, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, Akane Maniax and MuvLuv so that you can see the characters you in like them die in alternative.

>>7211770
Akane Maniax, no. It's referenced maybe 6 times throughout all games with Muvluv in the title.
Muvluv, you'd need to be a dumb fuck to skip the first half or so of the goddamn story. There's a reason Alternative was going to be originally included with the other two after all.

>>7211770
Akane Maniax occurs right before Muvluv Extra, it's not a necessary read/watch but if you go the OVA route it's only like 3 episodes long and Gouda is awesome. It's also probably the only time you'll ever see Muvluv characters in an anime.

>>7211797
the quality was a little disappointing but hearing the theme song at the end was exciting.

Anyone know if age ever released some of the BGM and the ED used in Supplement's Sumika After Story anywhere?
Some of the BGM haven't been used elsewhere, and while SONGS FROM age 2 has Supplement's Muv Luv Duelist OP on it, and looking around I can't find those on any other OST or Single releases.

I keep hearing people on /a/ and /v/ tell me this game has a scene even more powerful than Clannad's overall story. Does the rest of the game live up to that scene, or is it just a generic horror-shonen?

>>7211864
Play it and formulate your own opinion
There are going to be people that love it and people that hate it, the only person that can decide which is you

>>7211864
>generic horror-shonen
go back to /a/

>>7211864
You probably wouldnt appreciate it if you go to /a/ and /v/ Are you such a sheep that you cant form your own opinions and need other people to tell you what to play?

>>7211861
And baring that, anyway to rip the sound files from the games resources aside from recording them myself with Audacity or whatever?

>>7211781
So which one of those is Captain Isumi from?

>>7211886
Kimi ga Ita Kisetsu

>>7211886
the first one

>>7211895
wow, she looks totally different without the big glasses

>>7211919
The completely different artist thing probably helps contribute to that too.

>>7211864
I wouldn't call it generic horror-shonen by any means. Though if you're talking about the scene I'm thinking of, it, and the stuff that immediately follows it are probably the most depressing thing I've ever seen in any form of fiction, and likely the emotional "low point" of the entire game, so it's not like the entire game is depressing like that. (Though don't get me wrong, there are a lot of pretty soul-crushing scenes in it, but that one in particular has a way of catching people completely off-guard, so it's all the worse because of it.)

>>7211864
>I keep hearing people on /a/ and /v/ tell me this game has a scene even more powerful than Clannad's overall story.

Romance is a lot better.

>guy she loves tells her their souls are joined
>loses memories, world reset
>guy friend zones her this time
>dying wish is to be remembered
>world reset again, guy forgets

so depressing I have to resort to green text

>>7211965
Don't worry.
Kasumi remembers them all and even goes to see the ocean/sea one day.
But she probably wasn't even aware of that sequence due to well, you know.
That's going to be one hell of a depressing side story when they get around to it. Though, Inia will show up so it should be fun to see how they react to each other during it.

>>7211965
Go play AF and choose Meiya, you'll feel better

>>7212260
I'll have to learn moonspeak first. it almost seems worth it for a good end.

>>7212260
This is exactly what I am doing right now.
Thank god AF exists, if not I am going to be depressed as hell.

>>7212260
You are deluding yourself to think that what happened in AF will alter Alternative world outlook.

age need to get off their lazy ass and make another game in Alternative setting. Goddamm age is like another Type-moon, milking the franchise dry. Alternative came outin 2006 and in 5years they cant make a proper new game? fandisc doesnt really count.

>>7212326
but age is still better, they may release fan-disk but they are atleast releases, type-moon hasn't released anything since FHA

>>7212308

I moped around for a week after I finished Alternative, but never got depressed. You can't really get depressed at that ending, as sordid and tragic as it was.

AF is going to feel wrong after Alternative. It gives off a surreal, afterlife hallucination feel.

>>7212326
What the fuck are you even talking about? I said playing AF will make you feel better because you can choose Meiya, I said nothing about it affecting Alternative or anything else

>>7212432
Escapism just like pussy Takeru.
Real man deal with it.

Hi, I'm from /a/, and I'm about to start reading this. What should I expect? (No spoilers please.)

>>7212446
that's not true. don't judge me. you don't understand.

>>7212484
expect many bad feelings

>>7212446
>criticize escapism
>on /jp/

wat?

>>7212484
Expect shit.
Go back to /a/ and finish it before coming back retard.

>>7211797
>It's also probably the only time you'll ever see Muvluv characters in an anime.
sakaki is in the haruka miminozo ovas

>>7212484
Expect everyone to die.

>>7212574
lol´d so hard, you couldn´t be more clear.
>>7212484
but im almost sure that you are trolling

>>7211797

Also Ayu Mayu Theater.

Goddammit, Age. We've got this, plus Infinite Stratos and Gunparade March but WHY NOT not a real ML anime

>>7212484
expect chomp.jpg

all ages censored it and the tama part at the end though with strategically placed hands and robot metal parts

it seems the original hive infiltration got extended in all ages. i found a lot of cg and sprites there that didn't appear in 18+ while grabbing all kasumi related stuff from it.

>>7212908

It's a good spot to extend. It seemed like they were talking about their landing and the situation they were in and then suddenly they were at the final hall. Even if it wasn't the important part, it felt strange to leave out so much compared to the other major operations.

>>7212904
I really don't think a Muv-Luv anime would work. First off we have the fact that it has been almost 5 years since MLA so it won't be a hot new thing and most people that want to read probably already has.
Secondly Extra won't apply anymore, the generic harem genre is not the same anymore so it won't feel that authentic along with the fact that Extra would take up at least 13 episodes by itself, more if they do the multiple character routes which is necessary to understand what Sumika really did to all those cheating Takerus.
Thirdly how would they handle Unlimited? It is not like they can just cut it out as it is essential to Takeru's development.
Last but not least how many episodes do you think MLA takes up by itself? 30? 40? It would be a real cram job to make this a 26 episode anime that's for sure.

Also if it happens to be anything less than perfect the original fans, unable to take off the rose-tinted classes, will be furious.

>>7212904
It is easier to animate shitty generic crap than a classic. The animated version will never match up the original standard.

>>7212938
The budget needed to animate the whole of Sadagoshima, Yokohama and Original Hive in full HD would be tremendous. The cost of it would scared off most animation studio.
In short, nobody have the balls to do it.

>>7212938
>Secondly Extra won't apply anymore, the generic harem genre is not the same anymore so it won't feel that authentic

Huh? What's this supposed to mean? Extra does feel a lot more "pure" a harem compared to the filth I see during the regular season these days, but it doesn't feel any less authentic.

>>7212953
And how are they gonna do it? It wont work unless they do it Amagami style.
Budget, time constraint, episodes number? Too much money and risk for such a little gain.

>>7212953
> filth I see during the regular season these days
That's my point, in 2011 eroge and harem anime are just not built the same way as they were in 2003. The genre shift isn't as strong when Extra doesn't half way look like everything else.

>>7212948
I would give my lest foot them to be animated like that, that is for damn sure. So the budget would be high, episode count will be high, expectations would be high, and sales would be unknown. Can't really blame them for not having the balls to do it.

ML series, would never reach TV in a properly way.
In the event that get animated... prepare for the greatest shit/rage-storm from fans, because the anime will be probably be too short and there is a high risk of adding stuff not related to the originals VN´s.(IMO)
In conclusion lets enjoy the VN´s and have happy ends in our hearts (in case that even MLAF dosnt work to you)

>>7212908
>>7212917
>all-ages Original Hive infiltration
Still wishing someone could upload a better-quality video of this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-_BXUntIac

what happen with the CG and sprites pack???

>>7212938

Dreaming mode ON:

It'll could be to be a 52 episodes long series, like Fullmetal Alchemist. Extra could be done as in the novel, Sumika/Meiya hybrid, with some material from Kei route. Cutting some crap they could do it in 6 or 8 episodes maybe. Less harem, just presentation of characters.

For Unlimited you animate everything except the diverging ending, deal with it in Alternative via multiple "flashbacks" from Takeru's POV. Another 6-10 episodes maybe.

Then the rest of 30-something episodes for MLA.

>>7212996
>30-something episodes for MLA
No.
MLA need to be done with a movie budget.

>>7213003

Then a series of movies like Break Blade?

>>7213031
Yup.
Ideally, Extra will be like a 26eps series like Amagami.
Maybe 5eps OVA for unlimited Meiya route.

chompage

Hey, let me ask something. So, I decided to play muvluv first before I touch MLA. Is it worth it to play ayamine's route in extra? I mean, it's said that it's related to MLA and all that so I was wondering whether I should

>>7213305
If you like her, go for it, it's not obligatory and Alternative fills you on it, so only do it for preference/kill some time.

>>7213305
It's pretty bad if you don't love Kei really really much, but it introduces a character who'll appear in the Alternative world. You aren't required to know about his Extraverse version, it all depends on how much you like recognizing the cameos and that stuff.

age

>>7213305
you're gonna do all the routes, right?
MLA has many flashbacks to MLU, and, of course, MLU has a few flashbacks to MLE

>>7213305
In addition to the mandatory Meiya/Sumika Extra routes just play ones for the girls you like. A few people tried to 100% Extra and the Class Rep route ruined their minds apparently.

>>7214287
This is the best course of action honestly.
I was only sort of interested in Ayamine when I went to read her route, and from where it branches off from the common route, took me longer to read the entire Sumika/Meiya's route the first time through.

>>7213305
If you really want the best experience, play all the routes but Chizuru's. Her route is the only one that has absolutely no significance in Unlimited and Alternative (it's also generally considered to be the worst route). Miki's route introduces her father, who appears in both Unlimited and Alternative (albeit in a small role), and the reason to play Ayamine's route has already been explained.

What does it have: More than you'll ever need. CGs, sprites, background images and a ton of absolutely useless things - ask âge why even random dirt from the hives has its own file, I don't know. But hey, might as well share it all. And for the record, despite being from the all-ages versions of the games (except AF, which obviously never got one), it still has each and every sex scene because they are cool like that. Good luck trying to put them in on the 360 port, âge.
Now enjoy the slow seeding until I can get some server to seed it tomorrow.

Torrent: http://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=45774

>>7214408
Hey, back off bro. Hive dirt is my fetish.

>>7214416
Have some fap fodder, then.

>>7214408
> And for the record, despite being from the all-ages versions of the games (except AF, which obviously never got one), it still has each and every sex scene because they are cool like that.
Awww yeah. Are they at the same resolution/aspect ration as the rest of the CGs? If so, one can assume age might have intended to release an 18+ version with the enhanced content from the Standard Editions, but didn't for whatever reason.

>>7214408

>MFW 8 gigs of Muvluv art

Appreciate the effort!

>>7214428
Aw yeah.

>>7214428
boner.png

>>7214432
There is no set resolution for the CGs, almost all of them have different sizes (much larger than the resolution displayed ingame, by the way). And all the ero scenes got new CGs where you can't see nipples, but I don't think that's what all-ages is supposed to mean. Not sure what's going to happen with the 360 port, but a lot of the stuff in here can't possibly get released in a console.

>>7214446
Yeah, resolution was probably the wrong word on my part. I noticed the huge part of them when I extracted some of AFs for my self.
Mind posting the tools for the Standard Editions of ML and Alternative?
Can't currently torrent, and I have a feeling the torrent will be long dead when I can do so again.
Where as acquiring the Standard Editions should be a fairly simple process even now for me.

>>7214448
Muvluv +18: http://www.mediafire.com/?97sddcn8cdf9qda
Muvluv Alternative +18: http://www.mediafire.com/?m2z7s6hs0k75r24

Keep in mind these tools can only extract CGs and backgrounds, full rips are only possible for the all ages versions and Altered Fable.

>>7214468
Yeah, I meant the all ages ones.
Standard Edition is just a bad habit of mine of refering to them similarly to how they singles release of them was.

how does the altered fable scenario work? if yuuhi is still alive wouldn't that mean the playground event with meiya never would have happened?

>>7214477
There you go then.

Muvluv all ages: http://www.mediafire.com/?8i5k5xut999ydq7
Muvluv Alternative all ages: http://www.mediafire.com/?jigr0ob8o163bb4
Muvluv ALTERED FABLE: http://www.mediafire.com/?5s5ewqurniz9u5n

Extraction takes quite a while, by the way.

>>7214487
Altered Fable has a nice disclaimer that says it's completely unrelated to Alternative, so I guess it works because they wrote it like that.
It's been a long time so my memories are fuzzy, but why would Yuuhi being alive get in the way of the promise? If I remember right, you can just switch "get called back to become the heir" with whatever circumstances fit and have the same separation result.

>>7214487
The same way Final Extra works.
Magic.

>>7212996
>Extra could be done as in the novel, Sumika/Meiya hybrid
what was that like?

>useless things - ask âge why even random dirt from the hives has its own file, I don't know
they're probably mostly for layering and effects. i remember one scene inside the original hive had a tsf dash across the screen, and once it passed it the dust sprite was pasted on the floor.

>>7214493
Thanks!

>>7214487
Don't think, feel

>>7214521
http://www.neechin.net/article/72/muvluv-synopsis-project-extra-ending-special

>>7214712
It's a semi-cop out ending but I think I'd have liked that one in the actual Extra scenario. It does ruin the drama in the choice Takeru makes though I suppose, but for people who choose Sumika it may not make them feel half as shitty.

>>7214493
Hello Yuyucow, by any chance can you record a higher-quality version of this? >>7212982

>Finally, Takeru gets to Meiya, who has gotten into her wedding dress in preparation for the ceremony. At first, she was hopeful that he had come for her, but he tells her that he had chosen Sumika. When she hears that, of course she’s hurt, and tells him that she’s happy she got to see him one more time but that he should be spending his time with Sumika. Takeru can see that she’s just putting up her usual brave face. So he tells her that not just him, but everyone else, have come to the castle, causing the huge ruckus that she’s been hearing all this time, with guards and dogs and all sorts of dangers, just for her. Why? Because they’re friends.

Poor Meiya getting friendzoned again.

>>7214798
Meiya's fate is being friendzoned, no matter the world.

>>7214798
>Because they’re friends.

;_;

>>7214798
ALL MY HATE
Why must the best character end up like that? God damn it age

>>7214918
But Sumika is the best girl.

>>7214930
Second best, after Isumi.

>>7214930
Being a slut doesn't make her the best girl.

>>7213036
You now realize that you never see MuvLuv Alternative animated.

>>7213036
You now realize that you will never see MuvLuv Alternative animated.

>>7214988
That's fine with me.
Alternative itself is more than animated enough for me.

>>7214935
>slut

>>7214935
Man, if you fags make sumika the new sakura I'm gonna have to rape a meiya.

>>7214996
She is also not jealous, possessive or slutty enough to fuck beta right?
Oh wait.

Ah, I want a proper Marimo end.
Why do Heart de Roommate and Crescendo have to be the only VNs with a teacher end?

>>7215019
There is a Marimo bad end in Extra but why like teachers? They are usually 25+ and look like grannies.

>>7214798
Only in one world does Meiya have a good end, Unlimited end is too depressing and we all know what happens in MLA. Holding on to her dream in Extra only to see it crushed...
I found her getting friendzoned in Ayamine's route to be one of the worst, not only does Takeru tell her that he loves Ayamine he goes to her for relationship advice IN THE FUCKING PARK OF THAT HOLDS THEIR ONE MEMORY THAT TIES THEM TOGETHER. fuck I am mad. Fucking age...

>>7215029
>25+
I like older women
Not ancient though

>>7215029
> why like teachers?
because shes older, and takes care of the mc. Basically, she is like MamaRan.

>>7214774
>It does ruin the drama in the choice Takeru makes though I suppose, but for people who choose Sumika it may not make them feel half as shitty.

Yeah, it completely shits on the drama, like Supplement. I didn't feel bad for Sumika though, I felt bad because Takeru was fucking riding blind, staying with Sumika without actually knowing why. He was so terribly dense in Extra, it's a small wonder he ended up the star of Unlimited and Alternative.

>>7215029
The things in Ayamine' route they were talking about too, Takeru getting depressed and jealous that Ayamine might have a lover that isn't him even though he was doing something along the same lines but far worse to Meiya. Takeru was one of the most rage inducing protagonist I ever had to read, Takumi from Chaos;Head was better.

>>7215169
>Takumi from Chaos;Head was better.

I smell some serious buttmad trolling.

>>7215169
Well, I think in Ayamine's route, didnt he tell Meiya right away that he loved Ayamine?
Once the feelings are put away, its fair game.
NTR 4 LYFE

>>7215169
>Takeru was one of the most rage inducing protagonist I ever had to read

He's age's densest protagonist, but he's not bad by any stretch of the imagination. Not even in Extra. Check out Takayuki in KimiNozo and discover for yourself the true meaning of despair.

>>7215169
Takumi stays the same.
Takeru didnt.

>>7215107
She is more like Mami-san rather than Mamaran.
She is the big onee-chan that you will never have.

>>7215189
were you enough into NTR to enjoy 00 unit's recollection scene?

>>7215189
I still laugh at how 4chan doesn't understand what NTR means.

If only I knew moon so I wouldn't have to spend time on a board that imports foreign concepts and then DOES IT WRONG all the time.

Using NTR as a way of saying "cuckolding" or "fucking someone in a relationship" is just completely wrong and a retarded misuse of a good word that is so popular in sites like 2ch and Futaba. Fuck, iichan and 4-ch do it right. It's just 4chan and 4chan's lame knockoffs that fail at using NTR.

The true meaning of NTR means that YOU ARE THE PROTAGONIST AND YOUR LOVE INTEREST IS TAKEN FOR YOU. It's ironic, because you think that you're saying you're taking someone else's SO away while you're just, in fact, being cuckolded yourself. Yes, NTR can be used to indicate stories where cuckolding happens, but the main point is that the main character and by extention the reader is the one being cuckolded. The trend of replying with "I'd NTR him/her" is even worse, as it's just plain wrong and only serves to confuse the people who are reading.

The NTR word was never meant to serve as an implied synonym of "fucking her even though she has a boyfriend already"! Why people started using it that way is beyond me. There are plenty of words one would choose for that situation, for example, netori, or just plain whore if the main character is the female who's fucking around.

I want to use NTR, yet I almost never do it on 4chan because people will think completely different things or something.

>>7215194

Which scene? Tentacle rape?

If that's it, I don't think that's so terrible. What really made me shocked/depressed was Obsessive jealous AlternativeSumika NTR'd Takeru away from Extra Sumika and wiped his memories, so he ended up cheating on Sumika with different women an infinite number of times before his own love for one of those girls got him to loop back with most of his memories and full training, where upon he rediscovers his love for Sumika and loyally pursues her dispite not knowing the hell she put him through.

>>7215194
I don't really get why people feel "jealous" about that kind of thing. I mean it's not being done by another human, or anything remotely human, or even anything that really understands what it is doing to her. It's like being jealous of a dildo she used to masturbate or something.

>>7215215

Not to mention the BETA cleaned away the dirty parts when they were done!

>>7215220
I had the weirdest boner when I started thinking about her getting orgasms 24/7 for however long she was trapped.

>>7215237
No sir, I don't like you, not one bit.

>>7215215
What if she was masturbating furiously with the dildo that killed you and ate you right in front of her and operates on its own against the user's will and with a clear end-goal completely against the user's interests? what if it forced the user to like it?
>>7215220
12/10 would go on /k/ to get into an argument to vent my frustration again

I was initially going to complain when I saw age's 2011-2012 calendar yet again didn't feature any of the main cast, despite featuring some of the Schwarzesmarken cast despite it having not even began serialization at that point, TDA01 art and featuring KimiNozo art , but then I actually looked at it, and lo and behold, it actually did feature Meiya, but well, she looked nothing like herself and were it not for it outright having her name in the image, I wouldn't have even known it was her.

>>7215255
mind sharing a link?

>>7215247
I'm not saying that I thought what was happening was "okay", just that jealousy wasn't really a part of it for me.

>>7215260
I would if I could, but I bought it, and even if I had a scanner, I wouldn't scan it.
If scans/photos of it don't surface in about a month or so, when I have my camera in my possession again I'll take photos of it.

>>7215263
yeah, I guess I wouldn't be jealous of that. If anything, I'm slightly jealous of the part of takeru that has a relationship with 00 unit. None that mental trauma/all your friends get killed part though. He had it rough. Fucking age.

>>7215016
what is this from? was there a cameo in some animu aside from akane maniax?

>>7215196
but it is ntr, only from the girl's perspective.

>>7215377
AyuMayu Theater.

>according to Minami Kuribayashi, "muv-luv" is sung from the perspective of Sumika in Unlimited/Alternative
>mfw "asu e no houkou" is sung from the perspective of Alternative Takeru

>>7215406
Looking at the lyrics of every vocal song in Alternative and then their lyrics in relation to it is depressing as hell.

>>7215406
"I will" seems to be sumika too, while "songs of distant earth" is obviously the unlimited heroine. I think I really missed out not paying attention to the song translations while I was playing.

>>7215406
>mfw "asu e no houkou" is sung from the perspective of Alternative Takeru

Daaaaaaamn what? Now the lyrics seem all the more fitting.

>>7215422
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97qmMJQ5k78
>Inside of me is a wish
>What sent me off, was your life
>Hope placed upon an embarking ship
>that hides sadness
>I wanted to cry like a lost child
>Your prayer, turning into a star a light burning in the quiet darkness gently, certainly
Meiya ;_;

>>7215443
Oh god.

>>7215443
THanks for making me baww. ;_;

>>7215443
>Lyrics: Ikuko Ebata
I hate this man.

I can't even imagine what the Saigo no Eden and Sekai wo Yuku Kibou no Uta lyrics must be like after that.

>>7215471
what are those from?

>>7215475
TDA.
Though only Saigo no Eden has actually played so far, but the latter is confirmed for TDA01's ED with the former being the OP this time around.

>>7215485
is that the side story about marimo's squad?

>>7215492
No. It's the side story of how mankind has already lost due to Alternative V, so please watch warmly as the rest of mankind is wiped out.

>>7215498
What? It's been years since I touched the game, but isn't that supposed to be Alt IV?

And by the way, hos is Chronicles? Worth the read or just some age-stamped fanfiction to milk money?

>>7215443
>>7215452
>>7215459
I'll raise you guys one better: Meiya's image song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUIJTSrYfFo

> Even if an unchoosable destiny were waiting in the future
> I will live nobly to protect the one I love
> even if these thoughts never reach him.

>>7215519
Nope. Alternative V is what happens at the end of Unlimited where several hundred thousand people escape to some planet in some nearby star system. While the rest of mankind launches a massive counterattack and G Bomb the fuck out of the planet in order to try and wipe out the BETA. TDA takes place after this.
And yeah Chronicles 01 didn't have much but it's worth a read especially TDA00. Chicken Divers and Rain Dancers are pretty short but they're pretty good too. It's not much in the way of content but production values are pretty good especially TDA and Rain Dancers.
Pic Related, Aftermath of Alternative V.

>>7215498

Will we finally get to see how Takeru died in Unlimited? I mean it was just assumed everyone kamikaze'd Kashgar, but I'd really like to see it. When I played Alternative, I was predicting Takeru dead in Susanoo Type-4 with Kasumi crying as he and the rest of the world hikari ni nare'd.

>>7215443

>I can wait for exactly 15 minutes.

>Shirogane..it's been 25 minutes since then..

>Is that so..Meiya..was she crying?

>No. She was smiling.

BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>7215537
He *might* make a cameo, considering the Meiya's Takemikazuchi has been featured in some TDA concept art. I've always had an idea in my head that in one loop he takes the 00R for himself and just roams the earth wasteland killing BETA like some kind of TSF Mad Max.

>>7215532
>Unlimited OP Full

wut? where did this come in?

>>7215537
Dunno. TDA has been all new cast so far except Marimo at the end of TDA00 and to play a role in TDA01 and Walken to show up in TDA01 as well.
Though this is one of the concept CGs age put on the TDA00 site so take it as you will.

>>7215443
>That voice (Don’t forget your love.)
>I won’t forget (With you, I was a flame.)
>Those arms (Ride on the light sail now.)
>I won’t forget (Far away quest I’ll take.)
>Those days full of love
>So always, you live in my heart.
>Strongly, the star shines
>So always, you live in my heart.

Fucking BAAAAW. Q.Q

>>7215545
"All-ages" release.
It's also in the "Collection of Standard Edition Songs".

>>7215498
is it about takeru or some new characters?

>>7215538

Dammit, now I'm curious.

Did Takeru's sperm inside of Sumika's dead body vanish when he ceased to exist?

>>7215534
what exactly was in chronicles? the pv showed kasumi at the beach and the total eclipse cast.

>>7215572
Well Sumika/00 Unit can't even give birth so it wouldn't really matter. Along with the fact that she is essentially brain dead so yeah...

>>7215582
That was the age 10th Anniversary PV.
In Chronicles so far there have been 3 stories. 2 short stories published elsewhere prior to Alt. Chronicles 01 adapted into VN form, Chicken Divers and Rain Dancers. And the main story Muvluv Unlimited The Day After. Also some wall papers, some silly omake to throw some H into the game, a TE sound drama, and some other stuff.

>>7215585

Alternative VI: Use Takeru's genes to breed a master race race of Coordinators. Fast forward 100 years and we have Gundam SEED Destiny.

>>7215532
can that really be considered an image song? I thought meiya's theme was the sad sounding one from alternative.

To the anon who complained of milking, Age is making other games, it just takes a while.Elfen Blaze will be the longest VN ever and on par with the longest books ever written when done. 17.3 MBs of text.

>>7215600
Each heroine has a song for their own ending(s), I believe in ML's Standard Edition.

>>7215590
so then the other stuff seen in it will be coming out later maybe, including a sequel to the day after story? not like it's ever going to get translated

>>7215600
紫音 (Sion) apparently roughly means "The Sound of Purple". Can't find it's full lyrics apart from this rough translation:
http://www.neechin.net/article/55/lyrics-muvluv-alternative-sion

Also, an image song isn't exactly the same as a theme music, if you're talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9fvnSkSC90

>>7215608
>on par with the longest books ever written when done
No, that's already far far longer than the longest book.

>>7215534
How dumb of me, I got Alt IV and V mixed up.

>>7215608
>>7215608
Potential land mine!

>>7215608

>Would you like to know more?

Yes. Yes, I would.

>>7215613
Almost definitely.
A TE VN has been confirmed in the works for a while now.

>>7215608
We should make Ixrec translate it.

>>7215630
Good thing I am already learning glorious NIHON!
I WILL BE READY!

>>7215608
>17.3MB
>It will never be seen in English

If I wasn't so lazy I'd be fluent enough in Japanese now.
Damn it.

>>7215608
Who's supposed to be writing it?

>>7215657
Inoue Keiji of Artemis Blue. Apparently the scenario is completed already:
http://www.erogenews.com/articles/29/september-17-2010

>>7215608

You're fucking stupid. It was 17.3MB with an engine that requires an assload of scripting. The actual text is apparently of average length.

>>7215679
Don't insult people like that. It's rude and completely unneccessary.

>>7215685
People spreading misinformation with absolutely no proof piss me off. Especially when other people believe them.

What's Elfen Blaze about? Is it going to be set in one of age's two universes or an entirely new one?

>>7215614
>Also, an image song isn't exactly the same as a theme music, if you're talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9fvnSkSC90

HOLY SHIT PAVLOVIAN RESPONSE

I AM CRYING BITCH TEARS DAMMNIT

> Elfen Blaze
Sounds like a phi-age title, not an age one.

What age work are Kazama and Toukou from? Kimi Ga Ita Kisetsu?

>>7215706
No idea, though if phi-age publishes it and not age it would have no connection to either Extra or Alternative's worlds. Only game done by a sister company which has a connection to the latter two is Owarinaki Natsu which is set before UL/AL.

>>7215725
Correct.

>>7215712
>>7215614
http://youtu.be/CaKbcvo8YS8
絆 is now playing in your head.

>>7215725
>>7215742
Are they just minor side characters?
From what I gathered in Alternative, shouldnt the heroines be Isumi and her sisters?

>>7215756

Akane herself is a side character in KGNE, and unlike Yuuko, Kasumi can't exactly be counted as one of the main cast of Muv-Luv.

I was wondering what the connection between the human what? what did you say! survivors?! was, I guess it's that.

>>7215679
>>7215608
How convincing ,maybe one of you two would actually like to site a source for these bold claims?

>>7215807
>>7215807
There is no emotional shock value in killing off minor characters.

>>7215840

Yeah, there is. Just make the death visually brutal and graphic.

Isn't it sad, Marimo-chan?

>>7215851

>Marimo-chan

Minor character? I dont think so tim.

>>7215867
As much as I want to agree, she never got her own ending, so...

>>7216068
She had a bad end in extra. That's more what others got.

is this supposed to be a sumika parody? the scenario is so generic I can't tell

>>7216093
Can we get a summary of it?

>>7216233
she gets drunk at the hot spring and has sex with takeru when he carries her to her room

>>7216233
Marimo gets drunk at the onsen, rapes Takeru, doesn't shave, rapes Takeru again.
Oddly never came up in MLA flashbacks.

>>7216247
Because she dies before we reach the flashback scenes.

>>7216254
>>7216254
How is that a bad end? Also if she didn't shave
why are her armpits clean?!

is meiya considered a kuudere? I hear these terms thrown around but don't know what they mean

>>7216247
>doesn't shave
I don't remember this

>>7216323
Meiya is Meiya, dere all the time but has an awkward way of expressing it. She comes on too strong even for Shirogane "the densest metal known to man" Takeru.

>doesn't shave
One of the CGs during that sex scene had a lot of pubic hair, check the pic.

>>7216338
The artist slept with a real women while drawing this cg.

>>7216338
is there a general term for the cool and elegant type character though?

>>7216348
Yes, we call them cool and elegant.
Also much more superior to the clingy obsessive violent tsundere childhood type character.

I wonder why we dont see more cool and elegant character.

>>7216348
no, not a canned archetype one like the various __dere

>>7216357
damn that makes it harder to do tag searches

>>7216369
there's a few characteristic that fit depending what you like in Meiya though, for example egs has the 生真面目 tag

So apparently Meiya's death scene has Takeru's voice acting in the Standard version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPGZJmZwqk

>>7216644
Also seems like it's a longer autoplay sequence, different sprites, and a longer version of "Meiya".

>>7214784
I can try but it'll have to be done in a VM because Alternative all ages hates Win7 x64, even though all the other âge games run fine in it. So yeah, it might end up lagging like hell so don't hold your breath.

>>7216644
Mitsuki's death scene does have voiced Takeru too, they just did it for the most important moments of the game like those or the ending of Chapter 7.

>Torrent: http://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=45774
does this torrent have the biggest sprites (ones around the end of the file, with all the talking and blinking sprites around them) in full, or also cropped?

i did my own rip of alt, but the largest ones at the very end had their bottoms cropped, and i dunno if it was like that originally, or maybe something's wrong on my side.

>>7216713
The largest ones are cropped like that, Sumika's being the exception (she's still ahogeless but that can be fixed). The slightly-less-huge sprites (~1800px) don't have that problem and are included too.

I got a magic fairy to tell me how to run Alternative all ages in Win7 x64 so I'm going to record that scene some anon wanted.

>>7216757
I've been wondering how that version handles Sumika turning Takeru down because of the rape but no one ever responded. If you get that far, I'd appreciate if you posted about it.

>>7216757

>>7214784 here, thanks!

>>7216787
probably similar. the rape scene's still there, it just doesn't show anything and the inflation parts are removed too.

>>7216821
image related. forgot to attach it.

>>7216757
>run Alternative all ages in Win7 x64
Mind sharing how?

>>7216821
>>7216823
Surprised they kept that. Figured it'd be completely different in an "all ages" version. Thanks for posting it though.

>>7216826
This exe without the protection should do the trick: http://www.mediafire.com/?czjfpk8frx77jdz

Anyway, successfully recorded the Asu e no Houkou insert song scene, gonna encode it into a less insane filesize.

>>7216821
>inflation

Thank god, that was the worst.

I wanted to try Muv Luv but I can't install it on my Vista for some reason.

>>7217114
I think you needed the MSXML 4.0 SP2 installed
try to look for the kb954430 or kb973688

>>7217114
Mount the image with Daemon Tools.

>>7217114
In addition to what the other two posters said, your computer MUST be set in Japanese locale. Applocale won't work.

Need seeds for that sprite torrent.

Figured I should upload this already. 5.1 because âge is boss like that.

Original Hive - Asu e no houkou insert song scene, h264 - AAC 5.1 : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=537874OZ

>>7218049
I'm afraid you'll have to wait a whole day more because my seedbox seems to be dead forever.

>>7218153

That one anon who kept begging for that should now become your indentured servant.

>>7217571
Thank you, good Sir.

>>7218153
Sir, thank you, Sir!

>>7218153
I know this isn't really tread relevant ,but would you mind uploading the character sprites from Gore Screaming Show on ehentai. pretty please?

>>7218153
>5.1 because âge is boss like that.
age, so good.

>>7218295
The tool doesn't work that way.

>>7218295
Do it yourself. Crass will work.

I just got done playing Alternative after picking it up on a whim. I liked it and I just started the original Muv Luv. I don't even care whether it's good or bad, I just need a nice slice-of-life eroge to give me a break from all the shit in Alternative.

>>7219004
What the?
You didnt play extra/unlimited?
This is like reading the last chapter of the book without reading the start.

>>7219004
you fool, how can you accept Ayamine's love if you didn't do extra first?

>>7219015
Well, I'd say it's more like if you read Coco's route in Ever17 without reading any of the others. Enough stuff gets repeated or mentioned that you'll still have a pretty good idea of what's going on, but you completely rob it of its impact by doing so.

>>7219004
You'll be ending your Muv-Luv experience with Unlimited's unavoidable BAD END, then.

>>7219233
I kind of liked it though

>>7219247
takeru's already dead and looped back at that point, and half of the earth's oceans are turned into rock or whatever it is that it turned into after the massive g-bombing.
see >>7215534

>>7219272
but the thing with his daughter is so touching, even if everything gets reset

>>7219289
Nope, no reset, just a different universe. Kinda like Higurashi.

>>7219233
I think you meant BEST END.
Unlimited End > I WAKE UP IN A HAREM NOT REMEMBERING ANYTHIN END

>>7219318
didn't the game specifically say that the unlimited loops weren't alternate worlds and takeru was just getting reset to octopber 22nd every time?

>>7219373
Nope.

Sumika is a possessive jealous slut. Alternative Takeru is a combination of Takeru that decided to ditch her for the other superior girls. So basically her jealousy was so strong that she unwillingly put the memories of all the unfaithful Takeru into Extra Sumika End Takeru.

>>7219373
I think the existence of TDA retcons that.

>>7219405
In short, she wanted all Takeru to be with her including the Takeru that ditch her.
What a slut. 1 Takeru isnt enough for her, she wants all of them.

>>7219405
the takeru that woke up in the beta world had memories from all of the takerus that diverged from october 22nd in the non-beta world. every time that takeru didn't end up with sumika he was pulled back to october 22nd in the same universe and had his memories reset. did that create another branch or did it just reset the old one?

>>7219405
>Extra Sumika end Takeru
Kasumi says otherwise.

>>7219443
That is exactly what I said.
"your world" is basically Sumika End.
I like to hear your take on this.

>>7219438
Probably a different branch? We know that any single Unlimited timeline still goes on due to the existence of TDA...
Maybe we can think of the whole thing in terms of analogues of Higurashi's kakeras?

Is it CONFIRMED that Takeru is dead in TDA?
I don't remember seeing that anywhere.
And I mean concretely confirmed, not "he was here and everyone died therefore he must be dead"
That shit doesn't work with age

>>7219461
I took "your world" to mean the peaceful world without any BETA. All Extra endings then are the different (timelines) "worlds" which branched of "your world" (previously I used "universe" instead of "timeline"). The Takeru we see at the beginning of UL is an reconstruction/amalgamation of the Takerus from all those Extra timelines (which themselves continue to exist on their own); however this Takeru can only remember clearly up to the school festival (all other information was locked within his head due to Sumika being Sumika, except for brief flashes like that night at the onsen and the respective flashes he sees when you pick a girl in UL). He goes through UL, hooks up with a teammate, kicks the bucket during Alternative V, but gets pulled back to UL's 22 October with his memory wiped of the whole thing, presumably creating a new UL branch; the previous branch continues on in TDA. Repeat the UL loop an indeterminate number of times until by some fluke of quantum causality he manages to retain his physique and most of his memories going into one final branch: MLA.

This is why I think we'll never see who pilots that purple Takemikazuchi in TDA, by the way.

>>7219537
isn't the easiest explaination that it's takeru before he died? it might even show how it happened and why he remembered everything going into alternative

>>7219567
Takeru mentions in the first part of Alternative that he only piloted a Gekishin (with the cockpit upgraded to a Fubuki) during Alternative V.
Also, I think that TDA is meant to be a catch-all scenario showing what happened on Earth after Unlimited; I don't think age will show UL-branch specific plot points there (Takeru got the Type-00R only in the timeline of Meiya's True End; for all we know it's Meiya herself who's piloting it in TDA).

>>7219608
Forgot to add, with regards to the first point, It could be argued that it's just because of Takeru's memories jumbled due to Sumika's shenanigans, but the second point still stands.

>>7219409

>>7219461
>>7219438
>>7219409
>>7219373
>>7219318

ITT people don't read properly.

"Alternative Takeru" is Sumika End Extra Takeru + memories of Meiya/Ayamine/Chizuru/Tama End Extra Takeru, plus the accumulated experience of looping Unlimited. Those memories from Extra are not his personal experience, they're memories plugged into Sumika End Extra Takeru because he lost almost all his memories of Sumika when he was dragged into Unlimited. However, all of the memories he had in Unlimited WERE his past experiences in prior loops. Basically, he's unknowingly cheated on Sumika an infinite number of times, but had his memories completely reset whenever he died in Unlimited. He also has a handful of latent memories from the Takeru native to Unlimited, specifically the PTSD from getting killed by BETA.

Takeru becomes "Alternative Takeru" when his strong personal feelings for the Unlimited heroine (presumably the one you pursue in Alternative) allow him to retain most of his memories and training when he last died in Unlimited, but Sumika's jealosy still wiped all specific memories he had of the girls. Ironically, this passion for the Unlimited heroine allows him to rediscover his original love for Sumika, and he promptly forgets he ever loved a girl in Unlimited.

Both Takeru and Sumika in Alternative are "sinful", having done horrible things to one another, those around them and the world without knowing it.

>>7219608

TDA happens after the bombs were dropped, which isn't covered in Unlimited. If Takeru pilots the Takemikazuchi, it would occur after humanity took the offensive against the BETA., not before when he only piloted the Gekishin. He remembers nothing of how he died, which wouldn't have happened until he left Yokohama.

>>7219687
A minor clarification: when do you think Sumika End!Takeru was pulled into Unlimited?

>>7219698
Correct, but still, for all we know, that could have been Meiya in the Takemikazuchi.

>>7219705
Didn't Meiya gave her purple Takemikazuchi to Takeru during her end and made him promise to destroy it if he wasn't going to use it ? So, the only one who could use it other than Meiyas (and Unlimited Meiya didn't have a reason unlike Alternative Meiya) is Takeru-getting-Meiya-prego, right ?

>>7219699

Alternative Sumika hand-picked a Takeru who already had strong feelings for "Sumika". Whenever Takeru gets flashbacks to Extra during Alternative, the longest, clearest, most detailled memories are always of Sumika's Route, because that's the route he originally came from and they are his own personal recollections. The other memories were filler stuffed into his head by imaginary space to compensate for the memories lost when he was brought into Unlimited.

>>7219699
wasn't it december 26th?

>>7219687
The problem I have with "Sumika End Extra Takeru + memories from other Extra endings" is that Kasumi's words here >>7219443 implies that there is no single base Extra Takeru upon which the other memories can be plugged into. Plus Sumika's After Story in Supplement indicates that Takeru is still in that world way past Sumika's Extra End.
I agree with the Unlimited memories being real experiences.

>>7218468
>>7218542

I don't have the game, but I really like the art. Why wouldn't it work though. NNN shouldn't be tougher than the age engine.

>>7219733
> Unlimited Meiya did not have a reason to use it
Would the presence of her beloved twin sister in that world count? Recall that all of Meiya's relatives (Imperial family in UL, retconned to Shogun's family in AL) refused to leave Earth even during Alternative V.

>>7219744
>>7219749 here
Sumika's after story in Muv-Luv supplement says no.
As to why Takeru can most clearly remember Extra's Sumika route out of all the others,could it be because most of the "elements of Takeru" (as Kasumi put it) came from that perticular timeline, instead?

>>7219749

You are getting confused by ammy's failure to QC everything after Sadogashima, as well as Higurashi. Kasumi isn't saying what you think she's saying.

Sumika's wish was "I want to see Takeru-chan". That's very vague will and space didn't know how to respond, so it pulled flash memories from all of Extra's routes and dumped them onto a base, Takeru from Sumika's Route. Kasumi tells you Sumika picked a Takeru that already loved a Sumika because in all worlds Takeru loving her is her greatest desire. This is the synthesis she's talking about - even if Takeru started out as Sumika Route Extra Takeru, by the time he manifests in Unlimited, he's got memories from all other routes and is no longer merely Sumika's Takeru.

Supplement is also non-canon, as is Altered Fable despite what people would like to believe. It creates the impression Alternative Takeru didn't originally exist in Extra, but he was definitely pulled out of an Extra timeline because Extra keeps trying to pull him back. If a duplicate was created in Unlimited, and the original is still around as seen in Supplement, Extra wouldn't try to pull him back at all. He also wouldn't disappear at the end when so many people are conscious of him.

As much as I like the idea of Unlimited Takeru dying in the Takemikazuchi after killing thousands of BETA, all the images referencing his death have him using another mech. Can't be appreciated in this pic from the Unlimited manga, but I've also seen that same scene in some official PV and the colours of the mech were clearly a Gekishin's. Then again, shitty mech and PTSD aside, knowing Takeru he most likely wiped a ton of BETA anyway.

I think >>7219733 brought up a good point though, and it's not like âge deciding to mention this on TDA would break anything.

I've been considering checking this out, but first tell me, please: What is the appeal of these VNs? What are the things that set them appart from the rest?

Thanks in advance

>>7219815
Muvluv Alternative is a tale of love and courage. All the other VNs aren't.

>>7219809
> official PV
You're talking about this, right?

>>7219824
Not sure, actually. It may have been that. I just remember seeing it and thinking about all this.

How is the Unlimited manga? If it's relatively good I'll read it.

>>7219790
Points taken. Thanks.
Though with regards to Extra trying to pull him back I originally had wanted to say "IT'S QUANTUM CAUSALITY I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN SHIT" or something like that...

>>7219852
I enjoyed it. It's about as faithful as you can get with a multi-route VN (the manga is based on Meiya's ending, by the way).
Unfortunately it was packed into 4 volumes, so some things were cut out, but overall I thought they did a good job.

>>7219852
Read the VN instead.

>>7219815
ML is just mediocre it has nothing special in it really, just mandatory read so you can play MLA and maki it look better. But then MLA is one of the best eroges there is, and it feels like a movie with great production values. + sexy mecha design.

>>7219751
You seem to have a severe, fundamental misunderstanding on how these types of tools work

>>7219860
I did.
>>7219859
What about the Alternative manga?

>>7219852
Follows Meiya's route. It's quite good, if a bit compressed (for example, the tension between Chizuru and Kei, which took an entire arc in the VN, is resolved quite differently in the manga with Takeru in real danger of dying (the snakebite in the manga was dangerous as opposed to the VN where it was just had a placebo effect on Takeru, if I remember correctly).

I personally liked it a bit more than the VN, but then again I'm a Meiyafag.

>>7219815
Music.
Immersion.
Voice acting.
And rUGP sexy mecha scenes.

It beats the other power point slides games in execution and it provides the immersion that movie doesnt.

>>7219863
Shuffle! is mediocre. ML is a great comedy for the most part with nice endings for the main route (Sumika/Meiya) the other routes are so-so at best.
MLU is better but doesn't have much differences between the routes. And you'll probably shed tears at the end.

>>7219874
As for that, I don't know. Only the first two chapters have been translated, and Tanigobe is fairly slow, so yeah. I almost wish someone else would pick it up so he can concentrate on his h-manga translations.

>>7219874
Still in serialization (just at the start of VN Chapter 7 as of the latest manga chapter), and has things not expounded upon in the VN (for example, we see one of the Valks die during the coup, more of Kasumi's background including her real name, as well as the motivations of Chizuru's father in taking the decision to evacuate the Mt. Tengen inhabitants. )

>>7219886
No CHOMP yet?

>>7219886
>has things not expounded upon in the VN
That alone has me interested. I'm guessing there's no chance of a faster scanlator picking it up, though, is there.

>>7219890
No, but they have something else.
Pic related.

>>7219896
Case in point.

>>7219898
Oh god, faster translations where?

Autosaging, new thread
>>7219923
>>7219923

Are there any translations for the Muv.Luv Supplement Fandisc (yet)?