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Why does Mokou look like a late 19th century chav and why doesn't she get along with Kaguya?

>> No.7183352

Please stop using Mokou for your terrible threads.

>> No.7183355

Because the batman look is trademarked and Kaguya's the reason her parents are dead

>> No.7183358

> chav

Because you're a stupid Brit trash faggot with no taste.

>> No.7183356

There were chavs in the late 19th century?

>> No.7183413

What's a chav anyway, the only british stereotype I'm familiar with is white van man, because I'm apparently one of them.

>> No.7183502

>>7183413
I don't know, I'm the OP but I'm not british; I'm just guessing. She would look just like a late 19th century newspaper boy except she's always smoking cigarettes which is a sign of delinquent behavior

>> No.7183514

>>7183413
White trash in track suits listening to rap music and the like. You can think of it as a British wigger

>> No.7183556

Stop defiling Mokou with this terrible thread and false representation of her.

>> No.7183561

QUALITY THREAD­

>> No.7183575

>>7183514

That doesn't make the OP's statement make sense. Late 19th century = late 1800s.

>> No.7183583

>>7183556
Why is it a false representation? Don't start with a rant about what chavs are because that's extremely predictable and there's like a million of you ready to do that...

Actually I should ask this: what does Mokou look like if she doesn't look like a late-nineteenth century chav?

>> No.7183598

>>7183583
Why do you care what touhou's look like?

They're clothed in the finest bargain bin goth loli zun could afford for his brother to model.

>> No.7183607

>>7183598
Why do you care that I care? Are you like one of those secondaries that cares what other people care about?

>> No.7183613

Get out of /jp/.jpg

>> No.7183616

Since this thread probably wouldn't get deleted I'll just use it to request for something.
It's a picture of Mokou repairing a tear in her pants with one of her ribbons. I think it has Reimu in it though I'm not sure.
Pardon me for this but I'm desperate. Been searching boorus for days and I am not so lucky.

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>>7183583
>late-nineteenth century chav

She's from the Heian period in Feudal Japan, you idiot. That's more than a thousand years earlier.

She doesn't look like a chav, and those pants are a sign of nobility in that era.

And nearly every fan-made image of her is wrong. They never get the pants right, or the straps on her sleeves, and they make her end up looking like a clown. Half the time her hair color is also off. I don't approve of this thread, and I'm done posting in it. Even a sage isn't worth of its nuisance.

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>>7183616
OP here, go right ahead. I've been having my last few threads (on 4chan in general) counterfeited and derailed with multiple attempts at hi-jacking. I think I'll just capitalize on the opportunity to memorialize the topic (spontaneous butthurt by people neither Japanese or British) and change the topic while the changing/adaption is good. All the fire and flames are a good symbolism as well.

>> No.7183660

>>7183647
Please delete your thread, I'm begging you here delete it.

>> No.7183816
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>>7183639
>those pants are a sign of nobility in that era.
citation needed, and that doesn't explain the suspenders, either you've read a ridiculous amount of details concerning that period in history considering there is close to zero (if not zero) mural artworks around that time to back up that claim, or you're just making a baseless assertion which fails to describe the rest of her attire. I'd like to know which since you guys like to play "authority" around here.

>I don't approve of this thread, and I'm done posting in it.
more tactics to make me think that you're 'bullshitting and running'

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>> No.7185103

>>7183616

Anon delivers:
http://g.e-hentai.org/s/45fa567311/53473-32

>> No.7185111

>>OP
You're the same fag who started a thread about chavs yesterday, aren't you?
Stop trying to force your dumb eurotrash slang on /jp/.

>> No.7185123
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>>7183816
I'm not that guy, but the part about pants is partly right, even if he said it like an asshole. One of the lower layers of the traditional Heian court dress is a hakama that looks like really large red pants, so I guess that's were ZUN got the basic image from, of course modifying it.

>> No.7185133
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7185133

Have your parent brainwashed into killing himself for an impossible task, lose all belongings and be reduced to poverty, and watch your tormentor fly away laughing about how entertaining it was. Then see if you "get along."

>>7183816
>citation needed
The pants are hakama (probably karusan-bakama), part of an outfit reserved for samurai and courtiers. They are considered an essential part of male formal wear, the most important part.

Don't know if the shirt has any special meaning, but it appears to be a formal European-style shirt from the 1600s. With that time as Mokou's era of origin, it'd be a symbol of wealth and status during her youth; European goods at the time were considered high fashion due to the high cost of importing.

>> No.7185137

>>7183816

The former. http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Mokou
>because conditions in Gensokyo still resemble those of feudal Japan, pants are hard to come by and must be made by a skilled tailor or imported from the outside world, and presumably are much more expensive than skirts. This may make pants a status symbol, and given Mokou's status as a daughter of the old Japanese aristocracy and her rugged lifestyle, it is likely it would be only natural for her to insist on wearing them.

Her father is a noble figure. If you look at the traditional art in feudal japan, all nobles wear the same style of attire. That is, oversized clothes. Those pants she wears was actually quite popular.

>considering there is close to zero (if not zero) mural artworks around that time to back up that claim
That is complete, utter bullshit.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=heian+period+art

And to close up any other authority you think you have to feel superior to me, I am taking Japanese history in a college course. You simply have no ground to argue.

If you're a troll, I'll give you a 5/10 for getting me to respond.

>> No.7185343

>>7185137
Shitposting again?

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>>7185137
That doesn't make sense. By the time Gensokyo broke off from Japan, British mass-produced clothes had spread around the world. I'm sure there are plenty of pants and suits to be found in Gensokyo.

>> No.7185624

The rest of the world=/=Gensokyo
The whole fantasy land is basically feudal-japan era technology, with the exception of the Kappa.
>>7185343
Posting for the sole purpose of calling another post a shitpost is even worse. At least the tripfag knows what she's talking about.

>> No.7185697

>>7185624
You forgot the tengu... and Moriya shrine and maybe Eientei, but even the moon looks like feudal Japan.

>> No.7185699

>>7185137
> And to close up any other authority you think you have to feel superior to me, I am taking Japanese history in a college course.

> he thinks attending community college course gives him cred

>> No.7185767

>>7185697
The tengu, kappa, and the moriya shrine are all inhabitants of the youkai mountain. Of course they share the technology since they're so close.
Moon residents are outside Gensokyo, so that's considered alien tech. Lunarians especially, since it's explicitly stated they have much higher tech.

But this is about clothes isn't it? Point is, common things like furniture and clothes are made in the village of humans, so pants are, in fact, a status symbol.

>> No.7185774

>>7185767
Because when you talk about technology, it's obvious that you mean pants. And I don't remember talking about moon residents "outside" of Gensokyo. I was talking about Eientei.
Also, just because many people don't/can't have it doesn't make it something anyone would want to have.

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>>7185774
>And I don't remember talking about moon residents "outside" of Gensokyo. I was talking about Eientei.

I think he meant that because they're originally not from Gensokyo, it's foreign technology brought in.
You're still talking about general Gensokyan technology, which is not far from feudal Japan, since it's isolated from the outside world.

Picture's related. It's the human village.
I still believe the purpose of the style of pants Mokou wears (canon not fanon) is to serve as the status symbol of old japanese aristocracy that she is.
One correction, though. I don't believe Mokou to be your typical smoking bad-girl. She's more mysterious than anything.

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>>7185123
now those look like the pants, mainly because of the tapering(?) at the end. That's convincing
>>7185133
those don't really have any special resemblance, if its because of the baggness that's a really shallow coincidence, hence why i was giving the tripper a hard time.
>>7185137
~mural~ artwork asshole.

>> No.7186623

>>7185123
I still wish however that I could verify the origin of visual's sources.

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>>7186605
>if its because of the baggness that's a really shallow coincidence
What else is there to go by? It's a 17th century baggy pant worn by nobles in Japan, and a 17th century shirt European shirt of the type imported into Japan. Mokou is/was a 17th century noble's daughter in Japan who wears baggy pants and a European shirt. That's about as definitive as you'll get.

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