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Way to fail at OP.

Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e2ttnrjtim3n4i

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer and bios. Now updated with the latest PCsx2 SVN beta client, plugins are automatically included. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

AT2 Flash Cosmosphere:
http://ar-ciel.org/uploads/miz/tks/2avs/

Lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ is out! Download it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cim8496yi6mmvmi

AT3 Artbook - http://www.mediafire.com/?jrm2mg22mkx

AT visual book being scanned (at a low pace, don't hold your breath)
http://rapidshare.com/files/436804641/tonelico_pack2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437185283/tonelico_pack3_Low.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437190766/tonelico_pack3_Hi.rar

AT2 Raki bug patch - http://www.mediafire.com/?bp8ydy03ml7r5xa
You shouldn't need this if you're using the newest version (0.9.7) of PCSX2. Thanks to anonymous for uploading this!

Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_14

Latest Toukousphere Translation:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_107

Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e2ttnrjtim3n4i

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer and bios. Now updated with the latest PCsx2 SVN beta client, plugins are automatically included. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

AT2 Flash Cosmosphere:
http://ar-ciel.org/uploads/miz/tks/2avs/

Lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ is out! Download it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cim8496yi6mmvmi

AT3 Artbook - http://www.mediafire.com/?jrm2mg22mkx

AT visual book being scanned (at a low pace, don't hold your breath)
http://rapidshare.com/files/436804641/tonelico_pack2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437185283/tonelico_pack3_Low.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437190766/tonelico_pack3_Hi.rar

AT2 Raki bug patch - http://www.mediafire.com/?bp8ydy03ml7r5xa
You shouldn't need this if you're using the newest version (0.9.7) of PCSX2. Thanks to anonymous for uploading this!

Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_14

Latest Toukousphere Translation:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_107

>>7176802

Not much I can do about the post server being silly. ￣ヘ￣

>>7176786

just a simple question,
is there any information about the future of the ar tonelico series?

the end of part 3 didn't quite satisfy me...

>>7176895

There's additional information available from some of the novels, settei books etc. but otherwise the games have sadly ended. There's a small chance of a prequel but even that is very slim.

>>7176895
There are some After Stories and whatnot, but basically, that's it.

Well, as >>7176903 said, there's also a chance of a prequel.

But that'd derivate from the original games, I believe.

Already preordered Meruru limited edition
Gotta love that fluffiness.

>>7176917

well some setting in the past before the planet got that messed up could really be interesting in my opinion

I'm thinking about the story of Tyrias cosmophere,
I really liked the presentation of her past

>>7176380
There's definitely a few battles I would have had some issues with had I not had the higher tier guard IPDs, if nothing else than for the times when the slowdown made things a lot more tricky than they needed to be.

That being said, none of the games are hard, period. Not unless you intentionally gimp yourself. Not using IPDs just takes more skill than doing so.

Finnel taking a dump while others watch.

What have I gotten myself into?

>>7176929

I kind of want the paperweight but I can't read moon so it's kind of a waste of money for me. ;_; Hopefully NISA gets off their ass and gets Totori out soon.

>>7176954

There's a very high level IPD you can fight very early on in the game who uses THE BIG WAVE. I did not know this. I thought I could defend that attack. I was wrong.

>>7177077
Trust me, I know that feel, bro.

In any case, I enjoyed the AT2 battle system MUCH more than AT1, hard or not.

>>7177085

Well AT2 did drastically improve over AT1 in regards to its battle system. If you didn't use IPDs, Replekia and ridiculously levelled reyvateils it becomes even better.

I'm on the 2nd Ar Ru fight, and she keeps killing my characters in 1 hit, even though they have about 2k health each. It just turns into a pattern of me reviving them, and healing them, then they get killed immediately after.

>>7177307

If it's the one I'm thinking about, you're actually supposed to lose.

>>7177307

As I said in a previous thread with my fight against her on hard mode in my first playthrough:

>"Bye bye"
>Character(s) gets one shot
>Revive
>Repeat ad nauseam

>This was possibly the most ridiculous battle I've experienced so far.

You're supposed to lose though one of her fights though this is usually triggered by an attack and wipes your entire group instantly.

>>7177307
Are you playing on hard mode?

needs more content from the best reyvateil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRx1xgFZBR4

skip to 6:18 and get a heart attack

>>7177275

Its faster but the only problem I had was once getting trapped into fighting a IPD level 9 when I should not even be fighting levels 7s, only fight I was forced to use items (no way in hell could I beat it).

Outside it was not really hard, AT1 was tougher as the real time must have made then cut players slack and made things not that challenging, perhaps I was just that good at making then sync after I got the gist of things and playing with a gimp party is not a challenge, its just "harder" because you are doing it wrong.

>>7177371
>>7177414
>>7177420
I swallowed my pride and put the game onto easy mode, I can feel my testicles shrinking back inside me.

>>7177469
Well, player wear no gear in AT1 is defiantly harder, I had to allow only my reyvateil to equipped and such to make the battles not last forever and running out of items. Still far better than max gear and spamming attack to win.

>>7177470

>easy mode

>>7177470

>>7177441
Anyone record this on the ENG version, yet?

If not, for fuck's sake, somebody, do it.

I don't want to spend more DP on it ;___;

>>7177307
She kicked my ass too i ended up using like 30 revival items. along with her seemingly 1 hitting the AI she had a nasty tendency to use force purge on my reyvatail every time i got her purged 3 times.

anyone know the order the METHOD_SUBLIMATION plays during the game, is it the way its set on the ost? lamenza, ee wassa sos yehar, omness chs ciel sos infel? It doesn't sound right to me but it has been awhile since the played the game.

>>7177618
ee wassa sos yehar is def the 2nd don't know about the others though

The Ar Ru fight is probably the worst of the game for me, though her HP isn't so high that it took me more than one round of Ultimate Supermoves to take care of her.

Well, the MYU fight was pretty stupid because of the paralysis, I guess. Hate that fucking status.

>>7177618
lamenza, ee wassa sos yehar, then the other part which i can't remember the name of that lasts for about a minute, then omness chs ciel sos .

>>7177618

Those are indeed the order that they play. And now you've gotten me into the mood to replay AT2 again.

>>7177618
You got the order right. It's lamenza, ee wassa sos yehar then omness chs ciel sos infel.

What. This is the ending to the series...?!

The final boss didn't even feel like one. The first phase which actually looked intimidating ended so quickly you couldn't even enjoy xaaacli. And what happened to the after-credits gameplay where you go around talking to people. Heck, I was even expecting the true final boss to pop up after the credits or something. It just feels like an anti-climax... The combination of all 3 opening songs was nice though but goddamn it, this shouldn't be the ending

AT1 > AT2 > shit > AT3

>>7177956

I agree with your Zeqs_Ru comment. Even on hard mode it was such a pathetically easy fight that it was over before the song was even getting into its groove despite the fact there was an awesome intro + camera angle going into the fight. Thankfully the stages of Ec Tisia ~ Tarifa along with Ciela kind of redeem this rather easy fight

Makes me realise that AT1's ending boss music had a rather 'epic' kind of feeling to it despite the fact that Mir wasn't really that bad and that she survives yet AT2 and AT3 both start off quite dark and heavy then progress into a more peaceful serene style of music where they both give a sort of feeling of acceptance despite the fact that shit is hitting the fan in both of those games unlike AT1. I wish there was a decent rip of Tarifa though, why on earth would it not be on the OST..

>>7177441

Oh my damn shit.... Fucking fuck.....

I want.

>>7178076
What sound settings did you use for the later phases? I couldn't hear much over the battle voices =/

I thought AT2's "moe gap" was better because it has a better background. The scene changes in AT3 just looked really bland and the boss didn't really do anything to you while AT2 has [Crystalune], fuck yeah and their block animation looked really good

>>7178003
>mfw they remake AT1 with totori's graphics and SO4's combat

DAT SASAGE YA

>>7178103

For AT3? BGM at full, voices at like 75% or something and effects at like 60%, I believe. In the case of Tarifa where it's not available on the OST/Hymmnos albums I was slightly confused so I just bought up the battle menu (triangle) and just let the song play itself out just so I could get a good listen without hearing random yelling, Ciela screaming etc.

I must agree though, AT2 just had a rather awesome finale and especially if you mixed up the backgrounds even more with sync chains and such it just looked and felt so good. AT3 was fucking awesome, don't get me wrong, but as you say the backgrounds did indeed feel rather bland while all you had to do is get a decent burst since Ciela generally ignores you until the last phase and even then you can just ignore its attacks.

>>7178129
>mfw
>hilariousreactionimage.bmp
>>>/a/

Get out of /jp/.

>>7177956
You know what should have been the after credits segment for the finale?

They should have you flying to the other towers in an airship and visiting the other origins and you meet the other protagonists along the way. Then they all got together to sing the 3 openings which would be the second credits

>>7178146
>hilariousreactionimage.bmp
>hilarious

>>7178137
Thanks, I'll try that out. And yeah, I thought the final battle had shitty music until I brought up the triange menu too

>AT2 just had a rather awesome finale and especially if you mixed up the backgrounds even more with sync chains
Yep, I like it that ex skills were usable without going into the menu and they all looked really good since it takes place with the same background as the battle screen

>AT3 was fucking awesome,
Why though? I was really disappointed with the final boss and how the story only got better in phase 3 and 4 The previous 2 games started out really strong

>>7178137
Tarifa isn't in the extras too, right? It's weird how they left it out

I love the Dorodere Shitframe pack.

Ahh! Welcome all of my best human friends! You came all the way here to my place!? I'm so happy!

Hehehe, oh, you know you'll always count as a human in my eyes. So... you guys wanna play the brain explodie game?

Really!? I'm glad to hear that! As a thank you present, I'll add some volume to your chest later on.

Whose flesh should I transplant onto your plain bosom? Filly's would be good... but they're too small also...

Excuse me, but I almost had a near-death experience just now! That was stunning!

What!? Ria, are you deleting Harvy!? That's mean! ...It's hard to relinquish this fantastic feeling...!

Don't say goodbye. It only make me feel lonely. Oh, I know, why don't you guys come with me... all the way to heaven...

>>7176895
Really?
I thought the ending was pretty damn satisfying and it made me realize how attached to the characters I became.

Also those fucking credits, man. That was brilliant. I got all misty eyed.

>>7178361

>Also those fucking credits, man. That was brilliant. I got all misty eyed.

Glad to hear that... I was hoping it would go out with a bang and tug at the emotional strings.

>>7178251

Correct. To my knowledge it hasn't been released anywhere, it was rumoured to be on Akiko Shikata's next album but I wont be holding my breath..

>>7178213

I think it was just the way the game scaled for me. I'm not saying AT3 > AT1 or AT2 or anything, I just said that it was fucking awesome. It does start out slow unlike the other two games but for me I only started properly diving in the later stages of the game then along with the intense increase of story related awesomeness REBIRTHIA=PROTOCOL/. + tower entering firing position, METHOD_HYMELLI/. + finally seeing below the sea of the death for the first time ever etc. the game just became really enjoyable, even if the ending didn't really close the story as much as I'd have liked it to.

As of today, I am now the proud owner of a 26" HDTV! I am so happy and psyched. Just gotta adjust colors and sound so that it's "normal" -- I don't know why the default settings are so wack.

Anywho, I guess this means I can start on Qoga now, and any other game I stopped playing (Neptunia, Rorona, etc.). Oh, and I still need to write up my thoughts and the pros and cons of AT 1 and 2, since I just finished 2 the other night.

>>7178361
But don't you think it ended too quickly? We didn't know what became of Tilia, Harvestasha, what everyone was going to do now that the world has recovered, where Cocona was going, Akane's and Finelle's lives from now on etc. There's only a short scene after the credits. It even makes it look like you didn't get the true route. I mean, it's the final game, the least they could do was do a long post credits segment

>>7178392
I'm not sure about this but doesn't tarifa and ec tisia share the same lyrics with the latter being the full version? So maybe that's why they didn't include it because of how similar they sound

>REBIRTHIA=PROTOCOL/. + tower entering firing position, METHOD_HYMELLI/. + finally seeing below the sea of the death for the first time ever etc.
Yeah, it was great but It's just too short. Would be nice if they pulled a Phase 5 out of nowhere when you were launched into the core... And you didn't really get the chance to converse with Ar Ciel, it just went straight into the battle. Both Mir and the lesbian maidens at least had some dialogue before so you knew where they stood on this. Xaaacli's middle part does provide some background but you don't even get to listen to it for long...

>>7178399
Well for me I had gotten bad/normal endings before true since I didn't know how to get the true ending at first. So when true end came, it really did feel like the real deal. Personally, I sort of like where it ended. The world was now safe to live on and they had accomplished her goal so now their lives would begin anew. Harvestasha stayed in the core of Ar Ciel to maintain the dome up until it fully merged with the old core so its pretty clear she is gone for good. You're right about it having potential to show a little more though...since it is the final game. ;_;

Also is there a "FULL" OST for AT3 that isn't in flac format? All of the mp3 ones I've found are missing a shitload of tracks.

>>7178424

Well in its defence the whole purpose of the last fight was for you to communicate your feelings to Ciela which is the reason why your song magic is changed during the last fight. The planet is hardly going to start chatting to you, no? This is why there's an build up before this fight instead.

And search for the Tarifa versions on Youtube, there's 4 versions with various different styles. They share lyrics with Ec Tisia but sound completely different. Stage 2 of Tarifa is great and stage 4 sounds better than the normal Ec Tisia, in my opinion.

Also the latest novel continues on in regards to what happens with Tilia.. I think. I can't really say since I can't read moon but I recall that being mentioned somewhere, probably the ARM forum.

Well after finishing all 3 games I still prefer AT2 over AT3, I find AT2 a fun journey.

Still yet to obtain Tilia true, maybe that'll change my view.

>>7178430
Yeah, that's it. We could guess what they all could be doing but nothing would feel as good as actually seeing it for ourselves AT1 even showed each character's next plans and it just doesn't feel right that they didn't do the whole "gathering everyone's feelings to sing a song" part

One thing I really like about the second game for example was after seeing everyone happily enjoying Metafalica, you get Cocona's secret mission and then the whole singing scene with Jakuri. It just felt like a lot more was going on

>>7178430

Why not just convert the FLAC soundtrack? Seems like an easy solution and only takes 2 minutes in foobar.

>>7178459
The buildup I was expecting was something like exec_sphilia's. I mean, the planet has a heart of gaea too so I thought they would sync the scene better. Seeing the grass field appear and then getting destroyed was cool but everything that happened later on was just getting ready to fight. Ar Ciel wasn't given the depressed villian defense before they fought it so it's like the characters went into the fight without feeling sorry for her

>>7178463
Can't read under that second spoiler there.
Haven't beaten AT2 yet.
I'm waiting for AT3 to finish sinking in before I start it up again.

>>7178468
I don't have foobar. But I guess I'll get it and convert it myself. Thanks.

>>7178481

I don't think that was the feeling you were supposed to feel when going into that fight though. Of course seeing humans destroy themselves and such is a horrible thing but Aoto and company were focused on saving the planet while trying to convey their feelings to her, that humanity should be saved. They did not risk their lives to go through the sea of death on a potentially one way trip just so they could take pity on Ciela. This might have changed if the planet could converse to you but alas it cannot and all you can do is place all your hopes into hoping that the planet accepts that humanity is actually worthy and that there can be harmony once again.

>>7178497
You'll need the LAME MP3 encoder to do it though.
http://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lame-bundle.php

>>7178527
Thanks, man.

>>7178503
Sounds depressing though...
It just feels like humanity may repeat its mistakes since it looked as though they got the planet to recover by beating the shit out of it instead of getting her to forgive them although tarifa helped in convincing her...
It just feels so one-sided. Like we don't even know how the planet feels about all this. And didn't suzunomiya mention that she represented the planet's ability to sing? If Ec Tisia's was Saki's and Finelle's song then wouldn't it be great if the planet started singing for the first time in 400 years? That could make up the "gathering feelings" part instead of having it recover immediately

>>7178599
Oh wait I forgot that in AT1 Mir forgave them after they beat the shit out of her too. But at least she sang rig=veda

Finally got around to playing AT1.

I'm at the point in Platina where I have to choose which girl to stick my crystal into, is that what locks me into a route? And does it stop you from going deeper into the other's cosmosphere? Not a big fan of Aurica, but her cosmosphere is more enjoyable than Misha's. Haven't even really seen Shurelia yet so I'm not sure what I'm getting into.

Its really a pity that Aurica hasn't matured at all, any of her cosmosphere personalities would've been better.

>>7178626

Unlike AT2/AT3 there's no blocks on the cosmospheres so you can dive into all 3 of them while also diving past where you should be in the story so you'll be seeing characters you haven't even met yet and they'll be interacting with you like they've already joined. Not a big deal but just letting you know. And that's not the route option, it just changes which hymn is sung when you get to the battle, I think. I haven't played AT1 in over a year so I may be wrong.

>>7178626
Doesn't lock you into a route and you can marry all 3 in the first game.

Still, go misha for the purger crystal. I don't want to say why because it would ruin how good it feels

>>7178635
I heard you get blocked out in AT3 after a certain point.
I assumed it would happen so I never went past level 8 in Finnel's while in Saki's route.

>>7178614
Mir's case is actually different, though. What you fight at the end of AT1 is her hatred taken physical form, both in the monster and that shell around her. It's kinda like weeding out your lawn.

And, well. This probably applies to both: you can't really talk with someone who won't listen. If you beat them up first...

>>7178626
Misha's cosmosphere jumps in quality towards the end, but Aurica is definitely overall more enjoyable. Too bad she's a whiny bitch everywhere else.

Placing the Purger won't matter, but soon after that you'll switch phases, and there's a choice that -will- lock which girl you'll spend more time with. You'll know when you see it. Make two save files before then, etc.,

>>7178644
Once you accept the feelings of one of the heroines, you can't even complete the other's level 8.

>>7178459
The tarifa you were talking about can be found in the ar=ciel ar=dor album although it's short

>>7178635
>>7178641
>>7178654
Thanks guys.

>>7178652
I understand why they had to beat down the monster but destroying Mir's shell was just sad. She was just using that as protection while she was in the foetus position. I know this isn't the case but it's just kinda funny how their actions up till now suggests Lyner actually meant "Please forgive us...or else!"

>>7178665

That's sadly only the 4th part though but thanks for the reminder, I'd actually completely forgot about Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor since it wasn't in my usual AT folder.

>>7178694
Yeah, you said you like the 4th part the best !

>>7178644

You automatically get locked in with 3 heart points in AT3. Otherwise you only get locked in if you accept their confession which I believe is on level 8/level 3 for Tilia. For AT2 you get the choice at level 5 so you'll be missing out quite a chunk of the other 2 reyvateils in comparison to AT1/AT3. For AT1 there's no locks whatsoever, you can dive into all 3 girls and 'marry' them and there will be no impact whatsoever on the plot.

>>7178704
Yeah I remember AT1 having no locks and 2 locking me out at level 5 (didn't really give a shit about Luca anyway) so I wasn't too sure about 3.

Also how does the heart points work exactly? I understand how to build them with Saki and Finnel, but how does it work with Tyria?

>>7178784

You're given 3 heart points as I'm sure you already know. If you put 2 points into one character then the last point in the other you wont be locked into any route and as such you'll have to go through a confession scene instead. Because of this you can go into a true route with 2:1 then go into Tilia's level 3 binary field and woo her or just accept no confessions which puts you on Cocona route.

>>7178810
Ohh so thats how it works.
Thanks man, now I wont be running in there blind.
I'm still not sure if I'll play it over again right away or go back and finish AT2 finally.

>Having to say no to Saki's confession
Man, that will be the hardest thing ever...

>>7178784
>didn't really give a shit about Luca anyway
But she has the most murderous Cosmosphere! And craziest animation for song magic.

>>7178828

Also just so you're kind of prepared:

Tilia = Normal
World = True

You'll know what this means when you come to it.

>>7178810
Unfortunately, you can't choose the girl with only one heart since she won't accept you, saying you already love someone else (obviously, the one with 2 hearts). I know, I tried doing Saki's lvl8 cosmosphere with her only having one heart and finnel two, she rejected me! You can still go with Tyria or Cocona though in this case, just not the one with only one heart.

>>7178679
Of course, that was rather sad, but you also have to consider that Mir used that shell to lock the world and all other feelings out. Sure, I guess everyone would do the same if that stuff happened to them (massive abuse, causing genocide, etc) but in the end that is the wrong thing to do. Locking your feelings away is never a good idea.
Actually, now that I think about it, especially that foetus position. Someone like Mir, sitting there in a shell like that is just like a silent scream for help that gets blocked by her hatred.

As sad as it might be, in my opinion the only thing Lyner really could do was going MAXIMUM PENETRATION on that shell.

>>7178867
Cheers to the best girl in Ar Tonelico

>>7178911
That's not Ar ru

>>7178928
Ar Ru and Cloche are hands down the most delicious girls in the series.

Which cosmosphere theme song did you like the best in AT3, guys?
Finnel's was so damn catchy.

>>7178867
Lyner didn't HAVE Maximum Penetration! His sword is to short compared to Croix's lance.

>>7178928
That's not Cloche!

>>7178938
I like Finnel's more although none of them were particularly memorable... Also, anyone else think the grathmelding theme was a bad choice? I think the music plays an important part in how funny the conversation is supposed to sound

>>7178948
>Maximum Penetration
>Croix's exskill

HOLY SHIT

>>7178964

I feel sorry for whichever girl gets speared by him.

>>7178497
There an upload of this anywhere?

>>7178938
What about Gate of Babylon Akane? She even shouts SABER in her attack animation.

>>7178954
Didn't find them memorable? Aww, I sure did.
Grathmelding themes were good as well, imo. Captured each girl well.

>>7179024
Akane was great. And it was nice enjoying her once everything had cooled down and she could finally relax. She was pretty cute when she kept losing to Aoto in those optional fights

>>7178938
Cloche sucks shit bro
>>>/v/

>>7179003
He even has the whole SATAN GUIDE MY COCK thing when he started hovering.

>>7179035
The themes sound really alike though...Would prefer something distinct like AT2's

>>7179024
>Akane

I thought her voice actress was the girl who did Narcissu at first
And does Hama and Teppo share the same voice actress? Would be nicer if he was a mind guardian

>>7179053
Croix doing his EX move and Cloche going "Yes! Yes!" In the following defense phase?
We all know what the battle VA was implying don't we.

Jakuri has the most interesting melding conversations, I like it when she tries to troll Skycat.

>>7179060
Teppo's english voice was so awesome but you only get to hear it once. Fuck. Aretia's too.

>>7179053
Yeah that's true.

>>7179062
>I like it when she tries to troll Skycat.

Skycat and her has the best conversations!

Every thread.

Every thread.

>>7179073
I went back specifically to listen to Teppo's English voice

I quit game really, really fast.

Soma, booty bump her way to freedom by breaking the tank.

Too awesome.

>>7179346

Are you trying to put me out of work by posting my obligatory Tilia~.jpg?

>>7179427

A: "That sounds rather cute.."
S: "W-what are you talking about?" with a blushed look on her face

Delicious.

>>7179073

Teppo only got one voiced line in the dub? Huh.. With the Japanese audio he has voiced lines every time.

>>7179427
I wished they made Soma vs Soma a cutscene. Was so fucking awesome when she did what she did

Obligatory.

>>7179509
he gets at least two voiced segments; once when you first get him, once in finnel's. haven't played more so i don't know how many more.

i'm going to stick with ayaka saitou's voice

Anyone know where i can find the script of Toukousphere for April Fool event?
I'm curious as how Chro get called Breast Sommelier in there and how he do a MAXIMUM PENETRATION to Aoto

>>7179549
I'm suddenly reminded of this...

Anyone else dawwed a little during the credits?

You start hearing this familiar wailing but you're not sure whether it's just the 3rd game's opening because they all sound the same. And just when you start remembering something, your suspicions are confirmed and you see Lyner and the first game's opening. Then all of a sudden they cut to Luca and Cloche lezing it up. You start seeing Croix walking up the stairs and you nolstagia'ed at how nice it was having a protagonist that didn't shout every few seconds

I actually went back to AT2 and started doing Cloche's route immediately because of this...
I just wished Cloche and Luca have cameos in AT3 since they were my favourite characters (excluding 3rd reyvatails you shallow fucks) The whole "You are Cloche. You are me. I am you."

Goddamnit GUST, you could've put a combined replekia+ar tonelico attack.
WHY DIDN'T YOU DO IT

Someone post some good things about AH3 to motivate me to finish the game.
I'm a few hours in, and the combat system seems really clunky and I can't get used to the 3D.

Saki true: When did you start to like me?

>Something normal.
>Because you've got big boobs.
>Because you're a natural electric generator.

I wut at the last, hidden option.

>>7179721
Didn't Cocona use motherfucking Replekia just on Ayatane? I thought that was pretty cool

>>7179727
It's the final game. How could you not want to get through it after playing the previous 2.

>>7179728

>>7179727

3 has a somewhat steady increase in quality through the first two and a half phases and then kicks into HOLY SHIT THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME mode for the rest of the game once you hit the Rinkernator.

This is as opposed to AT1 and 2, where each phase had its own big climax so the awesome was distributed a bit more evenly across the game.

>>7179716
I d'aww'd at the credits too, man.
I got all misty eyed at that stuff.

3rd girls were a bit shallow except Tyria but I still loved Saki.

>>7179728
I wonder what would happen if you chose the second option. I wouldn't dare to myself.

>>7179727
The combat system is pretty awesome during boss fights.

>>7180085
>>7179716
I didn't react that way to the credits, didn't have a sense of completion.

Finnel and Saki's true end extra scenario was pretty dawwwwww-worthy though, especially Saki's.

If anyone is interested in the max money trophy. Saw a video by MasterLL on how to do it, you can make Lethal Frills/Frilly Frilly Frill/Ennui Alice and sell those.

Buy Refraction Cape from Ciela Gate and Silver Material from Arkia. Make them in bulk, 99 of those costs about 13k DP. Sell one for 6980 Leaf or so.

>>7180134
After the credits you mean?
Yeah Saki's was so cute.

>>7179377
Ah jesus christ I'm dead.

>>7180155
>selling lolita stuff nets huge money

It's like those girls over at /cgl/ spending $500 on a dress

>>7178599
Couple things about that...

You're not supposed to actually do physical damage to Ciela. (I remember it not having much effect, and I remember there being disincentives, and she'll blow you away anyway, IIRC.) The only thing that's supposed to carry that battle is song magic, which is Tili^Wyour heroine's dialogue with the planet.

Ec Tisia is almost certainly not Saki and Finnel's song - it wouldn't make sense. What would they have to forgive? In contrast, what would the planet have to forgive?

The planet doesn't really recover immediately - Tsuchiya said it will take like ten years for the planet to really become inhabitable - check out Technical Data Room 3 and search for the text "it happened right away".


>>7178835
It sounds like it all works out in the light novel, though.

>>7178954
>>7179053
Hey, it was a blast from the past. I liked it. Especially Finnel's version. Wasshoi wasshoi! (They were all remixes of Merk from AT1, which is why they're similar, and AT2's were just the heroines' themes. Which means you get to hear Jakuri's a lot, which I am perfectly okay with.)

>>7179549
Such a thing doesn't exist. But since I've seen the Japanese version archived on the Internet, maybe I should just post it anyway. I think I'll do that soon.

If I download the game, would it be possible to view the clean version of soma's flipsphere (the one in extras) on my computer and rip it out?

>>7180277
>Which means you get to hear Jakuri's a lot, which I am perfectly okay with
I know right! It has a slow start so I always make sure to let the text run for a bit till I get to the middle with that fuck awesome melody

>>7180277
So Ec Tisia is sung by the planet after Saki and Finnel manages to slowly convince her that humans will change? So, the song that is missing is the one Saki and Finnel sung right? They said they were going to sing a song to convey all their feelings to her and it just seems kind of a letdown to just compress the whole thing into a quick song magic attack. And this is going to sound funny, but I messed up big time during the final boss fights. I ended each phase using soma's flipsphere so I missed the whole "being able to damage her only with song magic" like you said. Used the x-button songs during a replay and it was so fucking beautiful.

What's the technical data room?

>>7180322
>They said they were going to sing a song to convey all their feelings to her and it just seems kind of a letdown to just compress the whole thing into a quick song magic attack.

That's because the Song Magic in AT3 is actually a chant, a song- whereas in the other two, they usually had separate events where heroines actually sing the memorable songs. It's TECHNOLOGY, man.

>>7180353
>they usually had separate events where heroines actually sing the memorable songs.

I would prefer this instead.
DEATH TO TECHNOLOGY!

>>7180322
>>7180277
Weird, I was under the impression that Ar_Ru's singing Ec Tisia, going by the animated ending.

>>7180365
That reminds me. I'm still butthurt over how Ar Ru didn't have a goodbye scene with the party when everything was over. She's probably just singing along or something since she didn't even appear in the final boss cutscenes

>>7180375
since she didn't even appear in the final boss cutscenes

You're so important~ na na na na na na

>>7180357
maximum analogfist, bro.

>>7180375
Yeah she did. In the final cut scene, she was sitting in that area looking up at the sun. Tyria found her

>>7179923
Oh, cool. Thanks, something like that was what I was looking for.

>>7180365
it is her
ar ru herself is the concentrated will of the world

>>7179923
that's 100% bullshit.
At no point in this game was there a "oh my god this is fucking awesome" like in the previous 2.

3 is just bad (except for the reyvateils) and I wish I could wait another 2-3 years for a better version.

>>7180564

I guess the hopes of most fans were too high after the previous games, which were both great, and thus unsatisfiable

>>7180564
>At no point in this game was there a "oh my god this is fucking awesome" like in the previous 2.

The Battle of Destiny, METHOD_HYMMELI_. and XaaaCi., alongside other things, would like to have a word with you, good friend.

I enjoyed AT3 alot, personally. Hell, even the first two Phases were rather entertaining for me.

>>7180564
>At no point in this game was there a "oh my god this is fucking awesome" like in the previous 2.
And then you realize that is not a fact.

>>7180588
I felt like this throughout this game. No crystal hunting and singing on top of a tower with an animated cutscene.

I did enjoy HYMMELI though, it has the AT2 feel, but unlike Cloche's METAFALICA it didn't had years and years of failure before that successful METAFALICA.

Thankfully aside from this little issue and gameplay everything else is goddamn awesome.

>>7180300
The videos are stored in sofdec which currently is decoded wrong by anything FFMPEG based and doesn't play with anything other then the offical tools you have to license to get the game.

Here is the 2010 April First Toukousphere, which was also the first Toukousphere with the AT3 characters. This is translated from a web cache that doesn't have the character images, so not all of the character references were clear. When it's people going apeshit over HarVistasya, IIRC it's generally Gengai, Chester, and Legris. The 4/1 Toukouspheres disappear on 4/2, so I figure posting it on 4chan is the closest thing to that.

IIRC this is the most outrageous of the four 4/1 Toukouspheres, so please expect that much character breakdown for the AT1 and AT2 characters. Croix breaks down... famously... three or four times in here.

Bah, since it's not letting me upload text here, time-destruct pastebin:

http://privatepaste.com/179368fbb4
Here is the 2010 April First Toukousphere, which was also the first Toukousphere with the AT3 characters. This is translated from a web cache that doesn't have the character images, so not all of the character references were clear. When it's people going apeshit over HarVistasya, IIRC it's generally Gengai, Chester, and Legris. The 4/1 Toukouspheres disappear on 4/2, so I figure posting it on 4chan is the closest thing to that.

IIRC this is the most outrageous of the four 4/1 Toukouspheres, so please expect that much character breakdown for the AT1 and AT2 characters. Croix breaks down... famously... three or four times in here.

>>7180322

There's two different Ec Tisia versions. The initial version is broken up into 4 stages showing 4 different states of emotion - This is Saki, Finnel and Tilia all attempting to convey their feelings that humanity is actually worth saving and that Ciela should give them a second chance. This is the entire reason of the boss fight. You're progressing through the various feelings that Ciela is feeling as she's slowly getting filled with the pure feelings of the 3 girls desperately trying to cling on to life. I know it's not conveyed that well in AT3 because of how the battle system works but that's how the last 'battle' is done. This is why every time you physically attack her she screams in pain, your 'feelings' from the song become extremely distorted and you are blown away.

The second version of Ec Tisia which is the full version shown in the credits/in the Hymmnos album is the one sung by Ar_Ru after the planet starts to change. Ar_Ru herself is an extension of the planet and she herself is happy whilst singing the full version of Ec Tisia. Ec Tisia means Forgive Everything - The more you know.

Well shit, just got the bad ending and things started to get real awesome and climatic before they ended rapidly; with such depressing conclusion I witnessed today.

Welp, guess I'll hafta go for the Normal ending and then I'll load my beloved save for the True end.

Should I stay in Finnel's route or go for Tyria? I've got backup saves for that, but heard Phase 4 is kinda long.

>>7181491

tyria is the best girl in my opinion!
you have to love her

>>7181491
Decide for yourself, man.
I got the bad end first too, then normal and then true. Stayed with Saki the entire time.

So since Ar Tonelico series has ended, would anyone still want a game similar to it? Maybe not necessarily have hymmnos and such, but still have the whole "save heroines from their inner and outer turmoils and maybe save the world while we're at it" kind of thing.

What would people say to a... hmm, a modern/near-future take on it? And by modern/near-future I don't mean medievalish setting that happens to have tech (Ar Tonelico) but actual modern setting with cities and actual internet, televisions, vehicles and all that jazz. I wonder how they'd do the Di-- uh, psychotherapy there.

>>7181680
Hm, hard to say. A lot of people seem to like it exactly for that Hymmnos part and the fantasy/sci-fi setting. If you put it in a contemporary setting and try to explain everything with REAL SCIENCE! ...eh, I dunno.

>>7181080
Thanks for this, I've been wanting to see what this was all about for a while now.

Croix in Breast Sommelier mode is a sight to behold.

>>7181680
Sounds like Persona meets Psychonauts. Sure, what the hey.

All righty, now I'm ready to ramble on about the first two games. Note that some of the pros and cons of one game are in comparison to the other (i.e. better so and so, not as good so and so).

Ar Tonelico 1 was pretty good, it was my introduction to the series and I'm glad I started with the first... first. I'm sure some folks here could type up too long;didn't read versions of why the series is appealing, so I'll just sum it up quick with music, characters, lore and story. The adventurous feeling of it all remains me of my time with Lunar and Grandia, too. Difficulty wise the game becomes decently challenging later as long as you don't grind up money to get those expensive cards that give you high-powered crystal enhancements and such.

For drawbacks, Lyner is... kinda dense. Okay, really dense. And I get annoyed with harem protagonists that act all oblivious to girls' advances. I also wish the endings were more different from each other. And I hated the very literal last-minute choice where you choose between your chosen Reyvateil or Shurelia (assuming you completed her Cosmosphere), makes you feel like a dick for rejecting the other. Plus there's very little difference if you choose Shurelia, anyway.

tl;dr:
Pros:
+ Better dungeon and battle music (more on that later)
+ Better pacing (more on that later)
+ Status attacks actually have a use; things like paralysis and frozen (least I think there was a frozen, it basically completely stops the time gauge) can be really helpful in late-game encounters
+ Felt more adventurous
Cons:
- Endings aren't significantly different; the "fake endings" at the end of Phase 2 are actually a little better about it
- Lyner's an okay guy but they really turned up the idiot hero archetype level up to 711 here

>>7182119
>Lyner's an okay guy but they really turned up the idiot hero archetype level up to 711 here

At least he's relevant to the plot of the game, unlike Aoto.

>>7181080
Oh, you translated it too? Thanks, man

>>7182119

I think that some of the hymmnos in ar tonelico 1 deserve credit, too!

Chronicle Key and Harmonius are still some of my favourite songs of the series!
they were really great!

>>7182119

AT2 was better than 1 in some ways and not as good as 2 in other ways. The battle system has significantly improved, with a unique take on the phase-based turn system. Your choices in Cosmospheres actually matter. Most of the main characters are better (no, I don't hate Luca). The synthesis system is better, with chat convos with shopkeepers and each heroine making a different item from the same recipe. I liked the endings more as well.

Town music's better, but non-hymn dungeon and battle themes aren't quite as good, imo, and I think there's less battle/dungeon themes than the first. The pacing isn't as good; there are times when the gang is just wandering around as if looking for something to do, while in the first game there was a clear-cut goal in each phase that they work towards. That's how I felt, anyway. The game is much easier. I didn't use Replakia or the hax-powered Third RT the first time I fought the Big Bad. The boss was actually somewhat challenging and I was able to take in the scene.

tl;dr:
Pros:
+ Better battle system
+ Liked most characters more
+ Endings are better and more different
+ CS's are harder and even more messed up than the first game's heroines'
+ Synthesis system better, shop events great... but...
Cons:
- Actually TRIGGERING the events is a problem. Having to go back and forth through towns and having to buy required items for hours is not very fun.
- Didn't get into it in the wordy version, but Dive Therapy sucks and is all a total mess, I don't know if it's the system itself or the translation or what. And good luck getting 100 IPDs cured/fan clubbed and into the fan club, and good luck not missing certain talk topics because you chose to cure as you go along instead of leaving them uncured. Thank goodness it seems I don't have to worry about these two cons in the third game, but I think I will miss conversing with shopkeepers.
- Difficulty got knocked down a peg or two

>Finish Ar Tonelico 3
>Finish Dragon Age 2
>Decide to re-play AT1/2 before doing the other endings of 3, since I only did one run of each of the first two and that was two years ago

>AT1
>30 minutes in, remember that the game is kinda 'meh' for a while at first
>Also realized that since I maxed all cosmospheres the first time there's not much new stuff I'll be able to see by taking different paths this time
>Meh, fuck it

>AT2
>HOLY FUCK THE STORY AND CHARACTERS ARE INTERESTING PRETTY MUCH RIGHT OFF THE FUCKING BAT
>HOLY FUCK LOOK AT ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT THIS GAME DID BETTER THAN 1 OR 3

>>7181080
Oh, you translated it too? thanks, man

>>7182197

I couldn't easily choose a favorite, so I avoided talking about hymmnos. I do have a fondness for that music that plays when Aurica is forced by Falss to sing that certain song in the Altar of Apostles, mostly because it plays the entire time you run to her rescue, encounters and all. Felt great. Also the last battle theme (Harmonius), Voice of Life if that's a hymnnos, Misha's purger... shoot, now you see why I didn't talk about hymnnos? I won't even get into AT2 as I would end up with another tl;dr, but I think Cloche's version of Hearts Fluttering (or whatever it's called), Sublimation, Replakia, and that song Third RT plays in the fight against the "Divine Beam" are some of my favorites.

>>7182197

Of course. I couldn't easily choose a favorite, so I avoided talking about hymmnos. I could pick out ones I liked, but I think I'd eventually end up naming all of them.

>>7182211
I'm also playing through AT2 before returning to complete the other endings for AT3, and I have to wholeheartedly agree. The characters, world and story are all instantly compelling and there's plenty of content locked out of just one playthrough so it's definitely a joy to pick it up again.

>>7182269
>>7182211
Let's start some silly war of opinions!

AT1>AT3>AT2

Sorry, but AT1 had incredible pacing, at least the first time through. AT3's more tragic and, honestly, incredible, story-wise (excluding the first two Phases). AT2 was carried by the gameplay, personally.

Could someone summarize this game in one sentence. It does say "RPG" on the Internets but that's very broad.

>>7182464
Forgive me, it shall be one image instead.

Picture related, it's the basic, spoiler-less summary.

>>7182486
Downloading as we speak.

AT2>AT3 by a short margin, because the awesome is spread out over a greater time and because Jakuri is the best 3rd reyvateil in the series bar none, for a few reasons.

AT1 had a decent story, but I didn't like Lyner or Aurica much at all. And the battle system was pretty bland.

>>7182495
>Downloading

You foolish, lustful beast!

>>7182464

It's a series of JRPGs full of sexual innuendo, anime cliches, and epic vocal tracks taking place on floating towers in the sky where the magic is cast by girls singing songs which are gained by diving into their subconscious and working through their issues in visual novel-style segments.

>>7182464
JRPG + Crafting + Visual Novel

More in depth, GUST's particular style of JRPG has a strong focus on collecting and combining equipment and items to create new ones, as well as interpersonal relationships.

Ar Tonelico is part of this lineage, but lessens the focus on crafting, increases the focus on character relationships to the point that that system nearly becomes a galge, and is set in richly imaginative decaying future world where songs and magic are the foundation of technology and the power that keeps humanity alive.

>>7182528
On a more personal note, the fact it was 2D JRPG and a galge with no dearth of sexual innuendo suckered me into the series, but the setting and music sold me on it.

>>7182547

This image reminds me that the only thing going through my head while running around in AT3 was HOLY FUCK WHY WOULD NOBODY PUT HAND RAILS ON THESE TINY PLATFORMS. I'm fine with heights but I'd be shitting myself if I was running along those platforms, fucking characters have balls of steel.

I know overall storyline isn't the series strength, but seriously why did the protagonists keep agreeing to help Raphael in AT3? He screws them over and over again, yet 2 scenes later and they're working with him yet again. The normal endings are a huge WTF. Thanks heroes for helping us enslave all the Reyvetails! Your Reyvatail party members just shrug, Aoto does a brief, "Wait, what?" then drops the matter. I thought Lyner in AT1 was bad, but WTH Aoto.

>>7182830
Keep in mind every other character keeps saying "Stop being so gullible, Aoto", so I'd say it's more of a character trait than anything else.

Besides, it's not like any of the parties involved in the Normal end is with Clustania nor a generalized Reyvateil organization, anyways.

At the end, it's pretty much the lesser of two evils.

>>7182830

In most cases they go along with him because he's the enemy of the party's enemy.

Going to have to agree with some that AT3 is the worst of the series. AT2 was a significant general improvement over AT1, yet AT3 regressed so badly it's almost worse than 1. They recycled 'dungeons' worse than Suikoden III, synthesis was utterly pointless beyond getting more effecient healing items, and the battle system was so shitty I ran from every encounter once I had enough DPs to clear level 9. If they ever make a AT4, or reboot the series or something it would honestly be better off as a straight VN next time.

Should I be worried if this gave me an erection?

>>7182956
>Expecting something sexy
>Click on the pic
>Get something else entirely

Oh dear. Maybe I should start on Qoga and get to her CS and find what the heck leads up to this.

>>7182945
I'd say AT3 does basically what AT1 did but a little better, though I'd have to agree with the gameplay complaints.

However, I did not synthezise just for healing items and equipment; I did it for the rather silly character conversations that are always a plus. As like every other AT game, since most equipment can be bought cheap from shops or obtained throughout treasure chests.

I do not see how they "recycled" dungeons outside the backtracking, though.

At the end, what makes me love the series is the story, characters, music and lore- and I found AT3 delivering that better than AT2, personally.

Might've been because of the horrible translation AT2 got, or god knows what; but ah, well.

Though, is it me, or the beginning levels of the two heroine's Cosmospheres are significantly shorter than the AT1/2 CS? They also require more DP, most of the time.

I wonder what Aruru's underwear is supposed to be. If you ask her to strip nude she starts crying and begs you to let her keep it on since its really painful to peel it all off...

>>7182995
>Though, is it me, or the beginning levels of the two heroine's Cosmospheres are significantly shorter than the AT1/2 CS?

Well, Finnel's was on purpose, and even Aoto comments on it while going through it. No explanation for Saki's though.

>>7182995
>I do not see how they "recycled" dungeons outside the backtracking, though.

Yeah, he's probably referring to how you have to slog through governorate 18 fucking times. That's the only place where it gets really bad, though.

>They also require more DP, most of the time.

Finnel's cosmopshere takes a lot of DP because she spends more time in the active party than Saki.

On that note, I like that in 3 they actually did a decent job of balancing DP gains, as opposed to 1 and 2 where to my recollection DP rapidly became completely irrelevant and plot/talk topics were the only things gating your CS progress.

>>7183078
Probably like a bandage, stuck to her skin.

>>7182956
Finnel's cosmosphere in general was so much better than Saki's. The whole court thing had me fucking dying.
Though I do like Saki better.

Is Atelier Rorona worth playing? I considered getting it a while back when /jp/ was talking about it a lot, but never got around to it.

>>7183253
the game itself is really mediocre and will get you bored if you don't like the characters
you should only play it to prepare for totori which is ultimately better in every ways
and meruru

>>7182995
>characters, music

But AT2 does all that better...

>>7183253
>>7183284

Adding on to this, the story is really simple. But the game doesn't even make up for it by having interesting character interactions. Totori is supposed to be much better though

>>7183284
Any word on whether that's getting localized? I'm not really proficient in moon, besides the few words here and there one can expect to pick up after being immersed in their crap for a few years, and I've never been much a fan of trying to play through an RPG without understanding the language.

Favourite cosmosphere themes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksr5piWPKHo

I'll give away all my games if I could see an Ar Tonelico concert live =(

>>7183288
I concur.

>>7183294
Oh, forgot to add: at least on the music.

Characters, on the other hand...I like those of AT3 better.

>>7183294
I don't really mind Mute though...
She was one of the more interesting characters because of her voice acting but her interactions wtih Katene later on and his preferences made me sick

>>7183292
no words as of yet but should be 1 year later than the rorona localization

>>7183293
La la laaa laaaa la laa

>>7183293

I liked Cloche's Cosmosphere theme myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B2pvvuijA0

i tried fapping to all the at3 purge videos
it didn't go too well

>>7183310
*1 year after

>>7183300
>but her interactions wtih Katene later on and his preferences made me sick

But she was a butch deeply in love. Needless to say, it's there mostly for comical relief- when shit gets real, like in the streets, however; there she is, always ready to save the day with the power of love!

>>7183323
It's more of how she has to be in butch form when they're getting all mushy and when she finally turns back into a little girl, Katene had to say he fell in love for her muscles. Urgghhhhh

>>7183330
But that made me giggle.

Not everybody likes foul-mouthed lolis, you see.

>>7183340
But she was so cute in loli form. Guess we have different preferences, haha

>>7183320

I'd say. Your "spillage" blinded Saki in one of eyes. That's why she has her eye closed in that one gif. You bastard.

Best ending song? Despite having an annoying voice, she did a great job on Soma and suzunomiya though.

[I will never forget
Your hand, your voice
Reaching through the deep mist inside my heart
Teaching me the meaning of love]

>>7183357
Nah, I concur in that, as well- she was cuter in loli form.

Alas, Katene's not normal in any way, anyways.

>>7183288
Skycat was delicious, Sasha was daww, and poor Cynthia couldn't compete with the main heroines. AT2 had the most likeable side characters.

thinking about getting into these games, do they have any annoying english voices or japanese versions that have patched for it? Or is just text and thus the localizations being free from rage inducing dubs.

>>7183534
They all have the option for japanese voices, however the animated sequences in the first game are in english, and the localization for the second game was criticized for cutting out large swathes of the japanese voice track and a shoddy translation job.

The problems with the japanese voice track have been fixed in the game files linked at the top of the thread.

>>7183555
Hmm I was thinking of being a buyfag since I want to play this on my PS2 and using swapmagic gets annoying, but I guess when I get to the 2nd game i'll probably have to play a patched game. Thanks for the quick reply

>>7183596
If you have a swapmagic already, do yourself a favor and use it to install FMCB. From there you can either install Open PS2 Loader (play games from PS2 internal hard drive, or USB drive [though USB drive has issues with many games, HDD works pretty well with almost everything]) or ESR (patch ISO prior to burning with included utility, then simply stick the DVD in the drive and run ESR, no swapping involved) I'd recommend going the internal HDD + OPL route if you can, been doing that for a while myself, and it's very convenient.

AT2 is best best since COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. I raged as hard as Croix when they took her away.

>>7183621
PS2 Slim here so no internal HDD for me... and the USB ports are USB1.1, so their transfer rate is barely higher than the optical drive...

>>7183659
Ah. Well, you could still use ESR if you want to eliminate the swapping I guess.

Might as well ask a question. Did Croix ever found out that it was Leika/Reyka/Cloche's IPD rampage that killed his parents? He didn't seem like he cares in the game.

>>7183501
Sasha is so hardworking and I like how when you think she's just an innocent little girl, she sounds as though she has a big sister complex at the beginning of the game.

Then there's Cloche who got angry at her when she stopped calling her big sis. Was so cute. I like the flash cosmospheres too. Alfman has to be the first person who's mean to her and she didn't even realize it the first few time because it was something no one could believe. Dawwwww :3

>>7183921
Where can I download this for culturul studies?

AT1: "Hymmnos are so cool!"
AT2: "Is this earsex?!!"
AT3: "Wait, what? Moonspeak and not Hymmnos?"

>>7183934
He didn't, because it's not true - that's generally considered one of the more egregious mis-translated lines.

>>7184282
I like the variety on 3's Hymmnos, though; plus, there aren't any I really dislike, but there are a few that are JUST SO GOOD - which, for mee, are Arphage, ViiBaCi, MjiiRa, Metempsychosis, Hymmeli, and chmod 700. Also, I really like EP=NOVA, and can't imagine how fun making it was. ちょう↓☆ろん↑☆ぐ~→

>>7184282
>Moonspeak and not Hymmnos?

AT songs have always been a mix of Hymnos and Japanese.

>>7184282
Talking about EXEC_Z? One of my favourites, too bad it was sung by an average character. I actually hated her until you saw a certain scene late in the game. I actually walked around while listening to that, timing my steps with the synth beats. Felt on top of the world

>>7184775
AT3 simply had a lot more people singing and arranging the Hymmnos rather than just Shikata Akiko, Shimotsuki Haruka and Mitose Noriko, so it has less of a 'solid' theme to them compared to 1 & 2.

I personally didn't like AT3's hymmnos line up compared to AT2 and AT1's but it still has some good tracks.

Still waiting for my copy to arrive. Last time I'll ever use 'First Class International Shipping' from USPS...

>>7184845

Mine arrived to me in the UK 4 days after the release date and I chose First Class International Shipping.

>>7184850
And that's why I'm pissed off. 21 days and counting and I'm in Australia where there's a guarantee of ~3 days for the expedited delivery. Fucking misleading name of the service. 'First Class' gives the impression of an at least reasonable service, not the budget off-peak 'takes up to 32 fucking days' delivery.

>>7182995
The synthesis conversations are a given, however the items themselves were almost totally worthless. I don't recall AT1 much, but in AT2 equipment and accessory items ended up being notable upgrades. In AT3, stuff you find in Phase I ends up lasting until Phase IV. Even the 'ultimate' weapons you get from Akane in AT3 are barely worth mentioning.

>I do not see how they "recycled" dungeons outside the backtracking, though.

In phase I and II, it's not so bad. Phase III and IV you go to the same areas 3-5 times each. And AFAIK, there's no 'prevent random encounters' item like in AT2 so you're stuck loading the battle screen and hitting escape 15 times an area.

AT3 did probably have the best characters, minus Jacquili, which is it's sole saving grace. It's really too bad Tyria/Ar Ru don't join until the last 4-5 hours, as I didn't feel like redoing all the synthesis again for her. You definitely need more DPs this time around though, it was the only AT game I had to do extra grind to complete them (fucking optional 6000 DP event in Finnel 4). Which isn't a good thing with that horrid battle system. Luckily you can just run from everything in Phase IV until the XP Shell, then fight there as the enemies give 1000-2000 DP per battle. The only stumbling block is the Ar Ru battle.

>>7184996

Air Spray, I want to say it's located in the Lymph Vessel but I may be wrong. It drastically reduces the chance of encounters but doesn't stop it completely - real nice to craft 99 of these on your NG+ just so it's rather pain free.

I agree with you though - 99% of the items crafted are useless. The only items I actually bothered getting were some of the healing items and that was only because I was playing on hard on my first playthrough. With NG+ you don't even need healing items so synthesizing becomes pretty much useless. I kind of wish the weapons/armour actually showed in combat - it would make it a lot more worthwhile if only for the aesthetics. Seeing your reyvateil purged to level 4 with a heart apron on - You know you want to see it.

>>7184867

Hm, maybe taking a while to clear through customs or something?

>J: D-don't judge just by looks, okay?
>S: Then don't make it look like it'll make us lose our appetite
>J: How rude! Maybe you'll get hooked on it once you take the first bite!
>S: Then eat it youself!
>C: Skycat, you're acting different.

Anyone else think the grathmeld conversations in AT3 were much more boring? I'm not sure whether it's the music or because of the lack of a shopkeeper

So, /jp/, I require advice regarding AT3's endings.

Got Finnel's Bad/Normal/True ends, but was wondering...can I get all the other ends I have yet to obtain in a single playthrough? That is, Saki/Cocona/Tilia's ends.

I read that you can get the heroine's true ends with a 2:1 heart ratio and then accept her Cosmosphere confession, or you can deny it for Cocona's end, or simply avoid it for Tilia's end.

What I'm thinking about doing is exactly that, but I've a few questions:

Will I miss any extra scenes in Saki's route because she doesn't has all the 3 hearts?

Can I make a save close to the end, with the 2:1 ratio, and reload it after I'm done with one ending so I don't hafta replay Phase 4 as a whole? And from there simply dive into Saki and accept her confession, finish Tyria's CS and accept her confession after done with Saki, and disregard everyone for Cocona?

I mean, if I don't miss extra scenes or anything, that'd really save me some time.

>>7185101
I don't think you miss any scenes. The only one thats missable is if you dont get 3 hearts in normal end.

>>7185101
You should be able to. Also the deciding factor between Tyria and Cocona's end is just whether or not you accept Tyria's confession or whatever in her cosmosphere. You get Cocona's if you don't fulfill the conditions for any other ending. You don't necessarily have to reject Saki. (As long as you don't accept her, of course.)

>>7185106
You miss a trophy if you do not 3heart a true end (Finnel/Saki Love Love 2)

>>7185109
That trophy's also in Normal end with 3 hearts, is it not?

If so, then I can get it, easily.

>>7185106
Hm...

Well, then. Off to the 2:1 route I go!

>>7185101
>>7185117
Here you go.
http://artonelico.isisview.org/viewtopic.php?f=144&t=1822

http://www.amazon.com/Ar-Tonelico-Visual-Book-Gust/dp/192677826X

am i correct, this is the famous yet not completly scanned artbook?

>>7185101

In phase 2 give 2 hearts to someone and then make a save before entering the rinkernator. Give 3rd heart to the person with the other two and continue until before the Ar Ru fight then make a new save, grab normal end then reload this save and power through to true ending. Reload from the rinkernator save then give your heart to the other girl (2:1) then go through the game as you normally would - just make a save point before accepting Tilia (and before Tilia's two choices for her Normal/True endings). This method gets all trophies and extra scenes too, if you're just looking to see the endings then you could just instantly go with 2:1 and do it all in one save and just make a different save for each confession accepted via cosmosphere/binary field.

>>7185254

That is correct. I've already pre-ordered it but I'll be curious to see how the translation of it considering there's 10 pages or so of text. Here's a kind of preview/review of it:

http://www.nattoli.net/entry/191/ar-tonelico-and-nagi-ryou-ar-tonelico-visual-book-souten-rakudo

>>7185480
If I understood you correctly, you're suggesting that I do the True End for Saki with a 3:0 ratio, then reload a Rinkernator save, get 2:1, and get Cocona's and Tyria's endings in said save, right?

That's what I was thinking of doing at first, but the 2:1 True End method saves me some time- however, I was afraid I'd miss certain extra scenes and events.

The choice is too hard, I already missed on Tilia's awesomeness once, I don't wanna do so again ;___;

>>7185711

Well as I said the 3:0 method nets you the trophy and an extra scene for her normal route. The 2:1 method, albeit faster, misses you some trophies (or so I'm told) and the extra scene for the person you gave 2 hearts to. I personally did the 3:0 route while abusing air sprays and browsing the internet whilst running through locations since I know directly where to go after the first playthrough. You'd be surprised how quick the game ends if you skip all scenes with the skip button and avoid 95% of fights (and run the other 5%).

>Reading the Ar Tonelico Qoga manual
>"If you win a battle, you'll get DP for the heroine who joined the battle."

Uhhh... Tell me I'm reading this wrong. Are they saying that they got rid of the very convenient "all Reyvateils gain DP including non-combatants" feature from the other two games??

>>7186000
I pirated it, so I dunno about the manual, but you do get DP for all reyvateils, not just the one in your party.

>>7186000

Nope. All members get EXP, all 3 reyvateils get DP. The only exception to this is if they are no longer physically in your party in which case they gain no EXP or DP.

Holy crap that DLC epilogue is so amazing. I thought i was going to die when i first saw it, and now i can't stop spending DP on it...

>>7186014
>>7186024

Oh, okay. Good. They had me worried there.

>>7184775
It's just that there are a lot of song that use Moonspeak instead of Hymmnos compared to AT1 and AT2
And there are a lot of song with Moonspeak>Hymmnos ratio

>>7185057
Nah I thought they were pretty funny.

>>7181920

Personauts?

I hope we see
Itou kanako and yuki kaijura take part next!

Any idea what Croix's hair accesory is called? I actually saw a 2 girls wearing it but their's weren't the type to clump hair together. Just beads

>>7186957
Speaking of croix, I like how he has two looks

>>7187355

He looks so much better in his armour attire but the casual look with the glasses definately suits his character.

M personality pack for Shitframe.

Ahh! This...long, grueling, humiliating silent treatment is finally over! Thank you very much, Master!

Ooh! You're the legendary slave handler, Master Tyria!

Please curse this little Crappy Frame to Hell...

But, thanks to that, I was left unattended. It's practically the same as blindfolded and bound...

I don't need a useless crowd that are neither my masters nor fellow "M" siblings.

Ahh! Master Tyria! You're much too generous!

At Ku.
Ah Masters! You trespassed into my mind without permission. How exciting... and addicting...

Ahh, Master Tyria! You're being so mean to me! It's sharply stabbing my heart!

Oh? Are we doing some bondage play!? I can't wait to see how sterile I'll look!

Excuse me, but my soul was almost turned off. I like to be turned on! Seriously turning me off isn't a game!

What!? That's terrible! Pretending to be my master, so that you can try to delete me...!?

No! I'll make this world a paradise for masters and servants! And I'll be a servant, well trained by my master!

For the Sakifags out there could you explain what happens in her ending? The wills of the planet inhabiting their bodies would apparently disappear a few weeks after the restoration of Ar Ciel, or so I recall reading, so what happens to Saki in this case? Do you get a deliciously fine Sakia ending or is some random plothole responsible for keeping the moeblob around?

>>7188062

My little shitframe can't be this cute! Though I still prefer her when she's abusing me. ♥

>>7188597
Saki True.
As implied in her Cosmosphere many times, she turns into a human and shares the body with Sakia Rumei onee-sama. The wills of the planet would leave, but only after a few years since they all want Aoto's cock or something.

Saki and Aoto swore their marriage oath in Aoto's hometown with only the 2 of them, and Aoto promises to love her forever, and she tells Aoto she loved from the beginning.

>3rd, hidden option
Aoto makes fun of Saki's ability to generate weird images and stories, and the scenario above starts.

Can somebody post the Translated April fools tokusphere again?

>>7188736
http://www.mediafire.com/?avpff50jo843a52

why is it in AT3 under movies it list some as [A] or [G] is there a different version of "Scene 11: [A] V-Board Racing!" ?

>>7188770
I think the [A] is just for denoting anime cutscenes.

What's the story behind the toukosphere? Like how do they decide which characters appear and are the questions actually asked by the fans?

>>7188649

Right, now I'm getting confused. What exactly warrants a will to become a human? I know they all pretty much lust after Shirou's penis, heck even Soma confesses to you that she loves you. But how is 'turning into a human' any different than being a will? They're both sharing the body, they're both depleting their energy at an exceeded rate etc. So what exactly makes Saki special compared to the other 4 wills?

Infact thinking about it surely they'd gain a body after returning to the planet like Ar Ru.. right? Or is she just a special case for no reason other than to sing Ec Tisia during the ending?

>>7189232

There is no real story, it's just a way of fans to communicate with the game developer, Akira Tsuchiya. There's a handful of 'rare characters' that appear but otherwise it's usually the main characters of the games answering questions submitted by fans. After AT3 was released Tsuchiya noticed that it was getting a little difficult to fit everyone in but he's trying to maintain swap everyone around.

The TKS itself is on the Ar Portal website (that's the official Ar tonelico series JP website) and is shown in a regularly updated column at http://ar-tonelico.jp/ap_contents02.htm.. Users ask questions at the bottom of the form for various sections and Tsuchiya does his best to answer them like the true bro that he is.

Finished AT3~

Here's how it was:

>Phase 1, 2, and 3 before the battle against MYU

>Fun and entertaining, but kinda lacks climax...

>Right when EXEC_METEMPSYCHOSIS_. plays and onward

>HOLY SHIT THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME

And, at the end, the ending didn't satisfy me. Not 'cause it was bad or anything, but I just wanted more.

At least there's different endings n' stuff.

>>7188597
From what I remember both Saki and Tilia have the same problem their cosmosphere is in the third tower and not in the first one like every other Reyvateil, except IPDs.
What happens is that after the planet restoration the third tower starts to power down untill finally the servers where Tilia's cosmosphere resides shut down as well, and because Saki's one is there as well they are bound to simply drop like puppets in few years.
This is a no issue for Finnel as her cosmosphere is in the first tower and that will continue to work until it breaks down.

>>7189556

Ah yes, I completely forgot this. The new novel explores the idea of saving Tilia from her cruel fate though, I think. So it saddens me to admit it but there's a chance that Saki could probably survive if they find a way to do so. Not sure how it ends or anything as I haven't read it so I'm not really sure.

>>7189556
All purebloods from the 3rd game have their cosmospheres located on the SH server in the third tower, that is why Clustania couldn't destroy Archia

>>7189656

>Akane dying

Why must you do this, Tsuchiya?

>>7187355
Just noticed that Croix's hair thing is the same as Cocona's necklace. Now I imagine them going to the shop together and buying matching accessories.

>>7189556
>>7189571
>>7189656
>>7190242
Okay, so. Tilia and Saki (Sakia) share the same SH server, which is actually in the Tower of Harvestasya somewhere. Now, the third Tower (Tilia's body) will be destroyed once Tilia runs out of energy to sustain it, which turns out to be about 5 years after AT3 ends. The plot of the AT3 light novels is the cast of the series working together to save her. I assume they will address Saki in there as well - I find it difficult to believe they'd let one of the main heroines die without a mention. He does mention in TDR9 or 10 that outside of Saki's true ending, she was going to return to the planet as a will ten years or so after AT3 ended, which means maybe Sakia would take over, but she's still in that SH server.... Anyway, I'm sure the light novels deal with her somehow.

The SH server for the Betas and Third Generations of Sol Cluster is actually in the Tower of Origins. The Tilia drama CD establishes that the Tower of Origins continues to function, floating up in the air, even after the Third Tower is destroyed, so Finnel, Akane, and so on are all fine.

I should be getting my copy of the light novels this week, so I'll post a summary before too long.

>>7189519
>but I just wanted more.

The first game's post credits gave you soooo much. Also why have the series stopped using fake credits like the end of phase 2 in AT1. I was expecting a plot twist after the credits

>>7191137
I don't really remember those. Was it just a scene with the girl you picked and Lyner living happily ever after?

Also, AT3 could've pulled off a fake credits with the Normal ending, was it not because it opted to do every conclussion and climax in the 4rth Phase.

>>7190898

You are a gentleman, good sir.

>>7190266

.. huh, so it is. Never actually noticed that. Croix probably made it for her for her leaving for Sol Cluster.

>>7191155

It showed you a really small scene with what everyone did afterwards otherwise there was nothing much to talk about in regards to the ending. Misha goes travelling/singing, Aurica sets up a shop or something and Shurelia just continues her administrator duties. Whoever you pick just has Lyner attached to her.

Also the fake credits wouldn't work with the normal ending because regardless of who you choose one of the main characters will die so the game couldn't continue on after the credits for the true route. Credits might roll after you stop Saki singing and enter the true route but they'd feel out of place compared to AT1 where you genuinely felt like the game had ended before it throws a plot twist in your face and the game continues.

>>7191294
Toukousphere 90!

> Anyway, I have a question for Cocona!
> I've been wondering about this ever since they first released pictures before the game came out, but your hair ornaments match the ones worn by your beloved Croix, don't they!?
> Please, tell us about when you got them!
> (I love pumpkins)

<Cocona>
Match? Actually, these are the ones I gave Cro.
I gave them to him as a good luck charm, but when I went out on my journey, he said I was the one who needed good luck, so he let me hold on to them for a while.
I've been lonely sometimes ever since leaving Meta Falss, but having these hair ornaments has really helped me keep going on!

*snip*
<Jakuri>
By the way, it's an official fact that the hair clips Cocona wears are actually Croix's hair clips.
I don't know if it's in the settei book or not, it definitely says "Croix's hair ornaments" on Cocona's design sheet.

>>7191476

That's pretty cool. I like how little details like that get worked into the series.

Ec Tisia ～Tarifa～ is in the CD Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor if you guys are looking for it. 謳う丘 ～Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor～ seems like the long version of Tilia's Singing Hill.

>>7191476
...So how did 首飾り become hair ornaments...?

Have we ever gotten lyrics for songs like "Tower of AT" from AT1 and the combo spells from AT2?

>>7191155
I think they should have done one when Tyria got the tower song back. The synchronised scene was REALLY cool but I'm sure they could mix it up with the credits

>>7191476
>>7191294
I didn't even notice this holy shit
I'm gonna get one for me and my cat

>>7192665
Oh, whoops. I must have been skimming it and just messed up or spaced out or something. Thanks for the catch, and sorry for the screwup. That reminds me, I need to do a proofreading pass over 90...

So I started a NG+ to get Tyria's endings, and decided to install the Harvestasha tsundere patch on a whim, thinking it would only change a few lines (and only her own) after she's rebooted in Phase 4.

... I just got to the scene where the party meets her for the first time, and now I only wish that the personality packs were voice acted in Japanese, too.

>>7193290
How far back does the patch affect?

>>7193290

Oh wow, so it affects her pesonality for the whole game?

>>7193357
As far as I can tell at this point, yes. I would recite some of the lines from that particular scene, but I don't think my brain has been able to work out just what happened yet. Really, it has to be seen to be believed.

You really should complete the game once before installing any of those, though, because it turned a rather dramatic scene into something really, really silly.

>>7193290
>Ultra M patch

>Harvestasha begging Akane to "punish her"

>Finnel: Lady Harvy, you're stealing my character niche!

Character patches? That's it, I'm piratin- oh wait, there is no PS3 emulator, and I'm not getting a PS3 just for fapping to purge scenes.

Where's my goddamn Harvestasha patches? They were supposed to be out last week and this week, but the store has just updated, and they're not out yet! Any news about the delays, or are they just being cunts?

Europe, by the way.

I'm playing through AT3 now, and I'm a bit confused. Does the normal battle BGM depend on location, or the Reyvateil you currently have with you?

>>7194997

Reyvatail. It changes when you purge based on the hyumas you have equipped. It also varies a bit at random, I think.

Specifically, the Reyvatail is the one who's actually singing the battle theme- in the very few fights where you don't have one in your party the music doesn't change at all from the field music.

>>7192407

As mentioned earlier in the thread that's only the fourth stage of Tarifa, the previous three are still unaccounted for which is annoying because the second stage is really nice to listen to, link related.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuFc5EhmJlQ

If only it didn't have the annoying Windows navigation noise at random parts throughout the song..

>>7194997

It's different for each persona you use. As you purge further the tempo of the song increases and I think hyumas affect it too? I may be wrong though, I wasn't particularly fond of the normal battle themes in AT3.

Excuse my intrusion.

>Playing AT3
>"oh cool, i've got 5500 DP piled up! this'll hold me some time in the cosmosphere!"
>Finnel's Level 3 - rpg-like one
>A HYUMA APPEARS - RIPS YOU OFF OF 5000 DP!

whywhywhywhywhy WHY!!!

>>7195272
Because Finnel likes that sort of thing.

>>7195272
>Pay 5000 DP for Arche to tell you to be aggressive.
>That's it.

the amount of lines that the english dub actually has dubbed is kind of sad
at least they dubbed THAT'S THE POWER OF LOVE, DICKNOSE. i replayed that whole cosmosphere just to hear that in english.

Change!

IS THERE A TRANSLATION SCRIPT FOR VOICE DE TOUKOSPHERE?

> Otayori Corner: The same as the Toukousphere section with the same name.
>That Character going to Other World: Allows you to make submissions asking about what would happen if a character went to a Tower different from where he/she was born.
>That Scene once Again: And this last one allows you to ask what would happen if a character from other At game was during an important scene from another At game sans the one where they appeared (for example: What would happen if Croix was present when Lyner told Misha to sing Chronicle Key again?)

After reading that description, I want it!

So am I the only one whose favorite part of Sublimation is the prologue? I hardly ever see anyone acknowledge its existence.

>>7195619

You mean the very first one as the sky goes dark, the one that sounds like "The apocalypse has cometh"? Yeah, that was kinda cool. Too bad it's so short.

>>7195588
I'm working on side Tilia at the moment, should be done in a week or two. I'll do Voice de after that - probably by the end of the month.

>>7195619
I don't think it's my favorite part, but it's reaaaally nice. I should stick a doubly-looped game rip somewhere, since the version from that Shikata CD is only looped once.

>>7195151
The Hyumas effect it - each Hyuma says on the programming screen when their sound kicks in and what it sounds like.

>>7195487
Anyone else thought of Obama whenever she said that? (Assuming you played AT2 "recently"...)
But man, I loved those talk topics. They were hilarious.

>>7195892
Why Obama though?
I liked how later on, Croix couldn't even finish his sentence when she shouts "Change!" and Croix even ask why she has to say that everytime

>>7195908
Obama's entire bid for Presidency revolved around change.

Started playing Mana Khemia recently. Jessica is too adorable and I want to be bullied by Renee.

>>7197429
Wait till you get to Mana Khemia 2. The cast is even crazier.

>>7197440
but all of the character ending are shit except Yun's ending because adult Korona is delicious

>>7197650
>adult Korona
I need to see this. Also, dat lecture on moe. It really took me by surprise.

So, how was it that you could gain Max Leaf without doing insane amounts of grinding?

>>7198878

See:

>>7180155

Someone make a new thread quick, I've got something incredible to post.

>>7198893
Alright, thanks, man!

>>7195304

Saki was my DP dump for making Lethal Frills and when I decided to finish the game she had around 20k or so DP left so I assumed that was fine for NG+. I powered through Saki's cosmosphere because I don't even really like her and I get to this - 5k DP for being told to be aggressive then another 5k DP for choosing Saki and getting a CG that lasts like 3 lines. Half of my fucking DP taken in less than a minute was quite annoying to say the least.

>>7198900

Well I just woke up and there's no thread as of yet but I doubt that 'quick' applies in this situation since you posted that nearly 4 hours ago. Because of this I'll make a new thread in a bit, might as well stretch the life of this one a little longer.

New thread at >>7200846.