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Why, /jp/? Why?

>> No.7173251
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>Alice

>> No.7173255

>>7173251
Yay! Matsuboshi!

>> No.7173256

I thought cannon Alice was:
A:Hey, remember me?
Heroine: No, not really.
A:Well maybe a fight will jar your memory.
<Fight>
Heroine: Well that was pointless.

>> No.7173257

>he thinks people play the games!

laughing2hus.png

>> No.7173260

for t3h lulz :P

>> No.7173263

>implying the life of anybody in /jp/ is a good gift

>> No.7173271

>>7173256
No, she's actually:

Alice: Why the stuttering? Just yell at her like you always do. "Bitch, get out of the way!" Like that.

>> No.7173270 [DELETED] 

Both are wrong.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Alice_Margatroid

>> No.7173275

>>7173257
>he doesn't play the games
tony_kornheiser.jpg

>> No.7173277

Why is fanon so shit?

>> No.7173287
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Because secondaries ruin everything.

>> No.7173294

>>7173277
Like when Aya is just a voyeur just because she is a reporter and there's nothing in canon to portray her as one?

>> No.7173301

>>7173277
because inner wishes, repressed drives, poetic license and loneliness.

>> No.7173307

I like fanon alice better. does that make me a secondary?

>> No.7173309
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SaBND made her canon super friendly.

Deal with it.

>> No.7173318

>>7173307

It makes you a faggot but I'm sure you were already one.

>> No.7173323

>>7173287
Or when Youmu is a spineless minion that just copes with Yuyuko's invented retardation and airheadness when the two are pretty much the opposite?

>> No.7173361
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>>7173323
Yes.

>> No.7173376

>>7173361
>SSiB

Never happened.

>> No.7174280 [DELETED] 
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we need that daily dose back

>> No.7174287
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7174287

Have you read yours today?

>> No.7174290

Have me read my sicp today he suddenly yelled at you?

>> No.7174293

>>7173376
IN never happened either?

>> No.7174309

>>7174293
Neither has 1.7% woodscrews and Fermi housefires.

>> No.7174320

>>7174309
Oh hi /g/ have you installed any Gentoo lately?

>> No.7174391

>>7174293
It did, except Marisa/Alice's route isn't canon.

>> No.7174408

>>7174391
This was about Yuyuko and Youmu. And there's no weight to your claim of "the one true ending" until you cite ZUN.

>> No.7174413

Even 99% of the translators use one, Oh wait that's like all of them considering there's less than 50 translators, and most people fluent in Japaneses wouldn't even bother with 4chan aside as a joke. >/jp/ claims to hate tripfaggotry/drama.

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>> No.7174434

>>7174408
Haha, go ahead then, live in your illusion if you can't face the truth. We've been over this for 7 years since IN came out, and people STILL feel like denying?

>> No.7174438

ZUN loves secondary works. This is fact.

Therefore, ZUN hates canon fags.

>> No.7174442

because canon alice has identical personality to every other canon touhoe. at least the fanon ones are diverse.

>> No.7174447

>>7174438
Which is why he wastes time making books made to augment canon facts right?

>> No.7174449

Careful, I am showing my entitlement whining on how my fabulous youtube vidyas and grimdark sdm interpretations will never be taken as canon by zun. Too bad aya and momiji hate each other in canon.

>> No.7174452

>>7174447
Which is why he includes fan comics in some of those very books, right?

>> No.7174457

>>7174452
So? That doesn't change anything. I never denied that he dislikes secondaries.

>> No.7174459

>>7174457
>denied that he likes secondaries

My bad.

>> No.7174460

>>7174447
>making books made to augment canon facts
More like release some light-hearted funny shit, while the fags treat it like some fucking holy bible.

>> No.7174462

>>7174457
My point is that ZUN hates people that treat his work as gospel.

>> No.7174464

Which is why he wastes time making books made to augment canon facts right?

>> No.7174467

>>7174460
I never denied that Touhou is a joke either.

It's silly, but it's canon.

Typical secondaries.

>> No.7174471

Where's my goddess now, /jp? True, but his point was that that's actually competent compared to /jp/'s perception, of Western = Shit.

>> No.7174472

>>7174467
Typical troll-sama.

>> No.7174479

The way you see it there are three possibilities : I am samefagging, I am impossibly easy to troll, or I think I am counter-trolling or some ridiculous nonsense.

>> No.7174502

How can you secondaries be so stupid?
Everything that ZUN decides to put in his games and other stuff he does to Touhous is considered canon.
There is no way that because some anonymous retard claims otherwise would change that fact

>> No.7174505

>A lot of touhou fans aren't even interested in his games.

>> No.7174509

>>7174502
The point is, nobody cares about canon, idiot.

>> No.7174512

>>7174505
They're interested in the characters he creates for new games.

>> No.7174517

I'm interested in fan games from genres I enjoy. Danmaku just isn't fun for me.

>> No.7174518

>>7173249
Would you visit disneyland with Alice?

>> No.7174521

>>7174509
secondary detected

>> No.7174523

>>7174509
But they make pretty good digital cameras.

>> No.7174529

>>7174521
Deal with it.

>> No.7174530

>>7174509
So instead of canon you prefer inner wishes, repressed drives, poetic license and loneliness?

>> No.7174539

>>7174530
I prefer Pentax.

>> No.7174541

>>7174530
I don't prefer anything, I just sometimes play the games and don't give a fuck about what some alcoholic or anyone says.

>> No.7174544

Fuck off with my trashy slut outfits on pure touhous.

>> No.7174555
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>> No.7174617

/jp/ - Secondary/General

>> No.7175362

>>7174617
well, other than 1 or 2 people here, everyone else is a secondary.

face it, zun sucks at making interesting personalities, and the games themselves are generic too, only saved by the decent music.

>> No.7175425

>>7175362
>face it, zun sucks at making interesting personalities, and the games themselves are generic too, only saved by the decent music.
Wrong.

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this

>> No.7175454

>>7175362
Pretty wrong
The secondary stuff are too generic

>> No.7175462

>>7175362
Did you bump this thread just to post secondaryfag bullshit ?

>> No.7175463

>>7175425
Agreed. The music is shit too.

>> No.7175468

>The secondary stuff are too generic
but at least they're diverse. all of zun personalities are the same. everyone's an annoying asshole who trash talks all the time.

>>7175462
yep. i had the thread open, so i didn't even know how deep did it go.

>> No.7175480

>>7175468
If I want some generic shit I would watch animes

>> No.7175481

>>7175468
yeah what about fanon personalities where everybody is either a maniac or submissive slut

>> No.7175495

ZUNart> Fanart

That's pretty much all I care for.

>> No.7175497

the answer. is love.

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>>7173249
My life? Sure, why not? Now we playin' or not?

What you mean scary? Oh, didn't you know? Badassery attracts me like magnets attract metal. So we playin' or not?

>> No.7175512

my question is, why the fuck does it matter? doesn't really seem like it's impacting your life in a negative fashion...

>> No.7175562

>That's not her personnality, you secondary, go play the games
>Lol wut, are there people who actually read those silly dialogs ?

Never understood that.

>> No.7175573

>>7175562
It's called secondary-mind.

>> No.7175596

>>7173263
This.

>> No.7175618
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any more touhou canon vs fanon comparisions?
these are great

>> No.7175652

I like A-A-Alice, she's my favorite touhou with a speech impediment.

>> No.7175655

>>7173287
>THIS IS GODDAMN IMPORTANT.gph

ha ha ha

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>>7175618
I just made this one a few second ago.

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>>7175675
Inorite? If it aint funny, it aint Marisa.

>> No.7175705

>>7175675
I knew Reimu was into MPD.

>> No.7175736

Both the fanon generic moeblob abomination, and the completely uninspired grimdark image elitists have selfishly decided is canon, are unforgivable atrocities. The true beauty of touhou characters are in their interpretation. ZUN's true talent in character creation is giving his fans just enough to work to mold into their own creative works, drawing on some subtle appeals or creating new ones that make sense in the context of the character.

Drawing up an image of Alice as a generic sociopathic bitch who doesn't care about anyone not only undermines the greatest strength of Touhou, but it's also incredibly dull and uninteresting, reducing the depth of her character to that of a fanfiction creation.

On the other hand, foolishly pigeonholing her straight into a standard deredere or tsundere archetype is also a crime against creativity, and not to mention so distant from the source material that it can no longer be considered an interpretation, but rather as applying a completely different character unto her character design. It's like going to a recital to hear someone's interpretation of a Beethoven sonata, and right after the exposition he starts playing some pop tune instead.

>> No.7175744

Cause the fanbase is gay. Fucking yuri shippers shipping girls who have never even meet.

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>>7175736
I agree. She is just a loner that is also nice.

>> No.7175763

>>7175744
>shipping girls who have never even meet
Like...?

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why the HELL is there a white slash near the end of the sentence?

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>>7175763

>> No.7175804

>>7175763
I ship Reisen 2 x Parsee.

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>>7175800
Sorry.

>> No.7175834

>>7175804

It's like the Millennium Falcon impregnated the Normandy.

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wh-why why don't I miss you alot for-ever~

>> No.7176575

>>7173249

Everybody is gay for Marisa.
Even Remilia literally told her to eat her out in canon. Marisa didn't get it.

>> No.7176585 [DELETED] 

because
>>>/a/47717041

>> No.7176584

>>7176575
>Even Remilia literally told her to eat her out in canon.
Oh god, that line.
I'm honestly surprised that more people didn't jump on it.

>> No.7176605 [DELETED] 

>>7176575
>>7176584

pics or it didn't happen

ZUN doesn't even draw breasts on his characters, how would he have the balls for innuendo

>> No.7176610

>>7176605
Just play EoSD.

>> No.7176612

>>7176585
Please don't link that kind abomination of a thread here, delete your post.

>> No.7176619

>>7176584

Most people here play the translated version after all.
They wouldn't know that the term for "eat me" Remilia choose has that kind of meaning.

I still wonder why RemiReimu got so popular instead of RemiMari just because of a suggestive hug even though Remilia said such a blatant thing to Marisa.

>> No.7176623

>>7176605
It's some kind of metaphor my dear oblivious anon. Youkai used to eat humans you know? Like humans used to exterminate youkai. Touhou is completely filled with sarcastic and ironic dialogues by characters with huge ego.

>> No.7176637

>>7176623

this >>7176619

It's indeed a innuendo for oral sex though. A pretty obvious one at that.
Just get a screencap and show it to a reputable moonspeaker if you don't believe me.

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>>7176605
ZUN does draw breasts i mean just look at Eirin's portrait and you will notice

>> No.7176659

Is that the only time ZUN's done that kind of innuendo? I don't remember any others. But translations, etc.

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>>7176655
Holy fuck, you're right.

>> No.7176680

>>7176655
10,000 years of sagging

>> No.7176683

>>7176680
Bueno

>> No.7176687

>>7175468
And in fanon, every character is some shitty cookie-cutter otaku fantasy.

I'd gladly take drunk girls who trash talk while talking about the weather over "LOL NEET XD", "HEHEHE SHE SO CLUMSY AND CUTE :3!!", etc etc

>> No.7176696

>>7176687
But they never say that, even in fanon...

>> No.7176718

>>7176687
The manga is funny, because everyone is depicted in more of a cute likeable sort of way, but all they do is have technical discussions about youkai/food/religion/science.

>> No.7176742

>>7176687
It depends on what fanon material you read/watch. Spoiler: There's better stuff than walfas and IOSYS out there.

>> No.7176749

>>7176742
>There's better stuff than walfas
FUCKING BULLSHIT

>> No.7176750

>>7176680

REIMUTROLLFACE.JPG

>> No.7176753

>>7176696
Yes they do.

>> No.7176794
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Canon.

>> No.7176933

>>7176659
There is more.
Last week I planned to play through every ending again and compile screens from everything they say in the games, but rl is a bitch.
I will do it next week and dump it on /jp/.

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>>7176619
Because literate explicit stuff is more appealing to make pairings than a sarcastic youkai-eating related PHRASE that only shipperfags want to take as innuendo.

Besides just look at dem crazy eyes.

>> No.7177678

>>7177674
Reported

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>>7173249

Canon Alice looks cooler and has the better quote.

I like both canon and fanon. What now?

>> No.7177712

>>7176794
It's also canon that they were drunk.

>> No.7177717

>>7177708
Welcome to the master race. /jp/ hates that though.

>> No.7177736

OP is a retard.

>HE THOUGHT IT WAS /JP THAT MADE ALL ALICE'S DOUJINS AND MADE ALL FANARTS

>> No.7177930

>>7177736
you'd better take responsibility

>> No.7179846

>>7177674
She would have used a more appropriate word if she meant Marisa could literally eat her.
It was actually meant as an innuendo,

Remi sure is slutty to flirt with both heroines. She probably doesn't even care who it is as long as they beat her in danmaku.

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