/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Would you willingly let yourself be purified if you knew that it would make Harve-sama happy?

The answer is yes.

>Vista Ultimate Edition

What personality is installed with this edition, good sir?

>>7163578
The best one, of course.

>>7163589

That's.. a rather vague answer. I require additional information before I'm tempted to update from XP.

Now that Qoga has been out for a little while, what's your opinion on the new cosmospheres?

I've only cleared Finnel's so far (halfway through Saki's, saving all but the mandatory part of the third Reyvateil's until I start a NG+) but damn, it might just be the best one of the entire lot (or at least tied with Jakuri's). Nice to see that the hype I'd been hearing about it was justified, for once.

>>7163603
Kusofure-sama.

Accept no substitutes.

>dat voice
>dat kigurumi
>dat sweaty dress
>no ending

Why do you have to make us suffer so, Gust? ;_;

>>7163699

Why would I want that defective shitframe?

>>7163667

Personally I thought Finnel's was hilarious, I was laughing for quite a bit while doing it. I've only done Tilia's mandatory levels but I don't really like the fact that it's recycled, perhaps the the 3 endings of level 3 will be better when I do her route.. her talk topics/synthesis discussions are great though. And Saki.. well I've completely ignored her for obvious reasons so I can't really comment on hers.

I'm kinda disappointed that Yurisica didn't get as much story relevance as Soma or Suzunomiya did. In the plot she was there for the prison break sequence and proceeded to never appear in the story again, and in the Cosmosphere she disappeared from the story as soon as Soma turned good.

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781926778204/Atelier-Series

Atelier Series: Official Chronicle, originally published in Japan by Enterbrain, is a 272-page collection of art work from 11 different Atelier games, starting with Atelier Marie for the PlayStation 2. The Chronicle also includes staff interviews and character profiles.

FUCK MAN I WANT THIS. Preorder it before it gets really fucking expensive.

>>7163790
>And Saki.. well I've completely ignored her for obvious reasons

Does *anybody* like Saki? It seems like all the love goes to Finnel and Tyria.

>>7163778
>No Akane as a vanguard, not even DLC

Yeah. Nothin' new.

>>7163804
The AT book is also being published, you know.

Wish I could afford 'em...

>>7163804

Way ahead of you.

>>7163812
Yeah it's 25€ too. Damn.

>>7163805
She has her moments and I like her enough that I want to get her endings eventually, but yeah. Not really my type of character to begin with, and with both Finnel and Tilia in the same game...

>>7163790
Definitely worth it to get the best ending on level 3. It took me a bunch of tries to get it since there's a trap along the way, and a few of the choices seem counter-intuitive going in (although they make perfect sense in the end). Also, the DLC is fantastic. The finale is all kinds of HNNNNNNNGH.

>>7163805
Saki is cute, and Sarapatra is tasty, but they can't hold a candle to the deliciousness of Soma, Tilia, or Aruru. Saki doesn't seem to be hated like Luca, but she just has that generic moeblob feel to her, so she can't compete withe other heroines who are actually interesting and dynamic. Plus she's an idiot who gets kidnapped more often than Princess Peach. She seems to have a lot of popularity in Japan, though, since she ranked 2nd behind Hatsune Miku in Sofmap's annual Tenshi of the Year heroine contest. If memory serves, Totori was 3rd, and no other AT3 heroines ranked in.

"Yay, I won the time-based fight."
later: MYU MK2

why was it so easy in comparison to the original?

Oh, the fucking irony. I'm usually a save maniac. I save everytime I see a savepoint. And today, I suddenly decided to dosomecosmosphere grinding (5 levels, to be precise) without saving in-between. Well, on my way to the inn, the game fucking CRASHED, like, it literally stopped moving, and the sound kept playing, and I couldn't even open the PS3 menu anymore (probably the first time I see a PS3 game crash). Really hard to believe.

What's the music that plays during the second stage of the Ciela fight? I actually had to bring up the battle menu and just sit back for a few minutes just listening to the song as it was nice to listen to. I don't recall hearing that segment in the song on the hymmnos album..

>>7163962

This happened during my normal end playthrough while fighting Harvestasya, the game fucking crashed and just kept her theme going as if to troll me. Fucking shitframe.

>>7164030

EXEC ViiBaCi MjiiRa.

And I had the game crash at the exact same spot.

>>7163928
Because it doesn't really influence anything, whereas the first one changes the ending depending on how you do. Although the second one does have a cheap attack that can easily wipe out all of your vanguards if they're huddled together.

To be honest, I got the feeling that they only put the second one in because they ran out of time to design anything else, or just plain couldn't be bothered.

>>7163904

Yeah, she kinda feels like the sort of character who the Japs would like more than the west. Funny how that works sometimes.

>>7164037

Are you sure it's in that song? It might be because it's played out a hell of a lot more during the fight compared to the all in one track but I swear I can't hear it in that. Perhaps it's just me being retarded.

AT2 song here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sgRKBot5bs

Is there more of this corrupted hymmnos in AT3?
I really dig the evil sounding music.

Also this part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWzpUBTp7O8#t=2m13s

gave me huge goosebumps.

Why is Ar tonelico music so fucking awesome?

>>7164120

Whilst there's dark sounding tracks there's nothing quite on that level. Give the AT3 hymmnos albums a quick skim through and see for yourself.

quick question as I'm still playing and don't know if it gets answered

When Cocona fights against Ayatane and she used Hymmnos when it was disabled, did she use Replekia?

>>7164181

They don't say what it was either way, IIRC.

There's a sequence later in which she draws power from the Metafalss tower again, though.

Awesome hymmnos song from the OVA.
Alot of people miss out on this one.
I think it's a great song.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlajphC0dew

>>7164062

The song that plays during this part - Spoilers for last boss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMOKkQ8x4MQ

>>7164181
No she is from the second tower which shares a song magic server with the first tower. The third tower's song magic server was shutdown/hacked so any Reyvateils from the 3rd tower were out of commission as they all share that server

>>7164226
Thanks for clearing that up. It still looked like she was drawing power from replekia.

>>7164226

You forget that Cocona is an IPD so her server is Infel Phira which is why she mentions that she was concerned when asked to sing METHOD_HYMELLI/. because Metafalica was barely supporting itself as it was without having everyone assist in transferring symphonic energy half way across the planet. So yes, it's basically Replekia.

>>7164241
>>7164226
Cocona's an IPD, she gets her song magic from Infel Phira, not the tower servers. Infel Phira is Replakia, so yes, she was drawing power form that.

Why are so many good hymmnos sonsgs not in the game?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeaY8WPd2EI

Or did I miss it in AT2?

Any words on the Europe DLC?
We only have the Episodes not the Character Arche type change.

>>7164348

http://nisamerica.com/index.php?nav=dlc&nav_id=atq&region=1&sortby=date&sorttype=asc

>>7164342
Nope, that's from the Spica Hymmnos musical.

>>7164408
thanks

>2011-03-30

it's 31 already in EU
still nothing there.
Goddamn

>>7164408
Which reminds me, did anyone download the custom theme? I can't find it on PSN.

>>7164432

The PSN store updates each Wednesday (apparently) so you may need to wait until next week.

>>7164194

Yeah, that's definately one of my favourite ones. I also really like EXEC_HARVESTASYA/. from one of Akiko Shikata's albums, it's much better than the original Singing Hills in my opinion.

>>7164203

Anyone? ;_;

so I have the possiblity now to purge up to 3 times at once, yet they still abort everytime when I try to purge only 2 pieces.

What did i do wrong?

>>7164461
http://dol.dengeki.com/sp/ar-tonelico/at3/theme/at3_saki.p3t
http://dol.dengeki.com/sp/ar-tonelico/at3/theme/at3_finnel.p3t

>>7164477
Not enough Beat UPs.

>>7164481
what, it says Purge available. So I do need to fill an invisible meter more?

>>7164479
Alright, forgive my perhaps silly question, but...

How do I install those? Not using CFW, mind you.

>>7164484
For taking off different layers at the same time? Yeah, you have to.

>>7164484
Yes, in order to purge multiple times you basically need to fill up the bar multiple times with no visual indicator. It takes 2 beat ups with special to go from initial to single purge, 4 to double purge, and 6 to triple purge.

That's the primary reason Hard mode devolves into kite and use special on red bar, since your vanguard damage is basically worthless.

Is it just me or is AT3 crazy hard? Encountered some zombies with guns or something and I've died five or so times there, tried setting it to easy but I still die without coming close to killing any of them.

It just seems like there is nothing to do about the Reyvateil dying, even if I do the blow thing as soon as someone's in the circle, she still loses around 80 health, and she has 130 or something.

Am I doing something horribly wrong?

The only game thus far where I feel like I can actually genuinely like all 3 reyvateils.

>>7164484

Correct. Generally it's 2 supermoves on red beats to get your first purge, another 3-4 to get your second purge and another 2-3 to triple purge. Once I get my first "Purge Ready!" I just supermove 6 times on red beats then shake the controller like an idiot and it works 99% of the time.

>>7164502
Spam healing items. At first, your Reyvateil's healing skills are, basically, useless.

It's also why every enemy drops at least ONE healing item.

I'm nearly at the end of AT2, and it's been pretty enjoyable. I was going to pursue Luca (she turned out to be an extremely annoying bitch) and ended up going after Jaquli. Good thing they added her in there. Her romance feels forced at times though.

>>7164502

That one fight is probably the hardest in the game excluding optional fights, for some damn reason.

AT health/power scaling has always been weird, Quoga is no exception.

>>7164502
I think you're doing something wrong. I reset the first time I fought them because someone died during the battle and I felt like a tool because of it. Granted, it seems like battles have been jumping around in difficulty the entire game, especially storyline battles(except for Mute, lol).

anyone remember the bad end VN part in AT1 Shurelia Cosmosphere?

I teared up ;_;
Atleast it had a good end because Lyner wasn't satisfied with that end aswell.

>>7164487
Put them on a flashdrive in PS3/THEME then just install it from the theme menu.

>>7164517
I felt worse at every point where I knew I had to choose between the two heroines because they were both clingy sad sacks and I felt like they would kill themselves if I didn't choose them. Especially Aurica.

>>7164525
remember how sad she looked at you at her lonely shop when you showed up with shurelia as the new girlfriend?

>>7164525

A lot of "pick a girl" games (ie most visual novels) have that issue, where you're indirectly guilted for not picking some (or most, or occasionally all) girls because THEIR ISSUES WILL FOREVER BE UNSOLVED AND THEY WILL DIE ALONE AND UNLOVED YOU HORRIBLE MONSTER. And occasionally they *directly* guilt you for it, like in YMK.

AT2 is actually not so bad in this respect, because Luca and Cloche are happy being heterosexual life partners no matter who you choose.

>>7164533
I always liked the 3rd reyvateils the best, but man. It felt like a dick move. The only thing keeping me from being too upset about choosing Shurelia was the fact that Lyner had actually known her the longest, so it would feel more like those other hussies are actually jacking him from her, rather than vice-versa.

>>7164525

>>7164545
Yeah. I think I'll feel pretty bad not going for Finnel, knowing she's BROKEN AS FUCK. But at least this is the first game I've gone for a main heroine rather than the 3rd reyvateil first.

>>7164533
Aurica was focusing on making them boxes, in her shop- ignoring her broken, friendzoned, lonely heart because she was too beta to even stand up against Shurelia.

And you ignored her, going with the loli. Not only that, but you show up in her own shop- she can only wear a smile to hide her sadness and general hatred for you; her confused feelings, as she loves and despises you both.

>>7164515
>>7164509
Oh cool, thanks for the advice. I guess I'm just a bit overwhelmed since in my opinion AT1/2 were pretty easy games.

>>7164569
>Finnel

I don't get why you guys like Finnel so much. Saki's a nicer girl, in every single way. Then again, I just did Cocona's, Tyria's and then her Normal/True ending, so I still have to do Finnel's one.

But seriously, she didn't appeal to me at all in the opening hours.

>>7164583
I stuck with her because she genuinely interested me, her submissive personality roped me in. Also Saki, like most people, apparently, struck me as the moeblobbish type and that just doesn't get me going. Though I still like her to a degree.

>>7164517
Come to think of it, in hindsight I found that pretty hilarious that they went back and "fixed" it, what with Mir having messed with it because she is a writefag after all and them being butthurt about the ending. In VN terms I would say it was like tacking on a happy ending to Planetarian for the sake of having a happy ending, but here the happy end was cut out during the development process.

>>7164610

>>7164583

Her first cosmosphere level starts with her masochism and from there it was honestly a fun and enjoyable experience to go through her levels. Plus Suzunomia, my waifu, was part of her so I had no choice either way. Tilia is an extremely close second, she's just so blunt and random that you can't help but love her. Saki however refers to herself in third person, comes across as a generic moeblob and she gets extremely annoying as the story goes on (GET CAPTURED > I BELIEVED YOU'D COME FOR ME AOTO ^_____^ > GET CAPTURED > etc.)

>>7164656

>forever500x500

Words cannot describe my sadness.

is it just me or does somas last flipsphere move look like the moon from majorask mask?

Speaking of waifus, oddly enough Finnel wins in that aspect as well with me because Soma is the closest I can possibly get to Jakuri in this game. ;_;

>>7164802
Are you me?

Anyone else digging the music after you clear a cosmosphere stage? They never changed it and kept it always the same in all 3 games right?

Any idea how I can get a screencap or something of Soma's delicious red lips during her flipsphere?

>>7164802

I said this when AT3 was released but then I heard Suzunomia's voice and couldn't help but love her just that little bit more.

>>7164834
No. In the first game, it was the Grathmeld music (but I think they play the Dive shop music sometimes for special events). In the second game...... It was the A-R T-O-N E-L-I-C-O bit from AT2's intro music (Startup, the load screen music). Same for the third game, from the third game's load music (MSGYEC).

>>7164553
Useless D-class Reyvateil only good for her femdom cosmosphere levels.

And BBQ Soda.

>>7164853
what the fuck, then why do I remember hearing that song in every other game?

>>7164572

>>7164849
I wonder if Soma would mind Aoto biting into her butt...

Why can't I find "Voice of Life AE" from At1 CD 2 (track 27) ost on youtube?

It needs more attention. It's such an awesome song.

>>7164853
Fuck I'm stupid. Now i remember. The music part was used in the at2 bath music.

>>7164580
AT1 was a little too straightforward to be very hard, in my opinion. AT2 was mild until you got the right IPDs, and then it's probably one of the easiest endgames I've ever played.

>>7164972
Guard++++ on both vanguards was so broken.

>>7164901

The normal Voice of Life is very nice too. They're probably my favourite tunes on the OST from AT1.. which admittedly doesn't mean much since I love the entire OST.

>>7164989
Exactly. You have to be trying to die in order to lose. Or have the game freeze up on you with a certain boss fight.

Damn you guys, how is the AT2 bath tune called in the OST?

>>7165026
cd1 track 35
isnt named for me either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVSbBeULas

>>7165026
As far as I'm aware, the bath music was never released.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVSbBeULas

>>7165041
Thanks.
真夜中の内緒話

I automatically classified it as the BGM for the talk matters in my head.

I just started listening through the AT3 OST to see if >>7164203 is on it and the different flipsphere tracks started playing and I knew exactly where the beats were for each track... I think I need to give AT3 a rest.

Wish the characters have more time to showcase themselves, especially the personae.

>>7164203

I really would love to know whick song that is :/
wasn't able to find it either~

>>7164203
>>7165151
Sounds like the beginning part of Ec Tisia.

>>7164859
Because the "startup" songs in every game are where they first do the A-R T-O-N E-L-I-C O thing, probably. 1 and 2 are fairly similar. 3 is kind of different, though, so I dunno.

>>7164901
I agree, this is a really nice song - 1 and 2 have some really, REALLY good songs in the OST. 3 seems to be a lot more hit-and-miss with me. Maybe just because it's so different.

...I have a doubly-looped Vorbis q5 version of it that's ripped from the game assets, where do you want it? (I've tried uploading it to Mediafire and lost the link.)

>>7165168
>>7165151
Yeah - the Shikata vocals are from Ec Tisia, and the version that plays at the end (mostly vocal only) is Ec Tisia ~ Tarifa. The music that plays during the Zeqs Ru battles, unfortunately, doesn't exist on any release anywhere yet. (Another reason I REALLY WANT disc images of AT3...)

>>7165181
>I've tried uploading it to Mediafire and lost the link

what.

>>7165186

Thanks very much! Managed to find the song on YouTube so that'll have to do for now until someone gets a clean rip of the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuFc5EhmJlQ

boner.jpg

So I've been complaining about the lack of HDTV in some of the past threads. Having money troubles, see. I've been waiting for the opportunity to get one, but I'm becoming impatient. Not to mention that as time goes on, there have been more indirect spoilers in this thread. I might just go ahead and start playing Qoga before I really get spoiled, but I dunno. I got annoyed with the small text in Rorona and Neptunia, and someone told me Qoga suffers the same on SDTVs. Not to mention I won't see the new graphical style and CGs and such the way they should be.

I dunno, what do you guys think? Keep waiting or just go on and play?

>>7165293

I can't really comment since I play on a 32" TV that is right in front of my face but if it's really that bad then I'd say just hold off for a while until you can afford one. Depending on where you live you could always get a loan or perhaps lend some money from a friend or your parents or something since TVs aren't that expensive anymore in comparison to years ago. Also I wouldn't worry about getting spoiled here and there - I already knew AT3 in and out before I even got the game and I still loved every minute of it when I finally got to play it a few weeks ago.

>>7165293
I'm playing it on my 1080p tft and oh my god the text is so fucking blurred, it hurts my eyes. I even tried to downscale but it still sucks.

Just go for it, honestly. You aren't missing out on super high quality pictures and cgs.

>>7165316

Text looked fine to me on 32" 1080p. I had zero issues reading the text from a few metres away.

>>7165320
distance between me and monitor = 50cm.

The text doesnt have a good outline. And you can see sharp edges on character cgs when they speak.

>>7165314
>>7165316

Yeah, I was thinking of asking my folks. There's a sale for a decent 26" in a Target, and my brother works there, but I don't know if we'd have the opportunity get it due to some other things going on. My brother works there, though, so maybe I should call 'em.

If I don't get it this week and I don't see another good sale from the Sunday paper, I'mma just go ahead and start playing and dealwithit.jpg.

Is it possible to pirate this game? Or PS3 games in general? I want to play this so bad, but if I have to blow $360 just for the console and single game I care about on it... I might as well save that money and watch some faggot's let's play on youtube.

>>7165345

Well, it's $300 but yeah. I don't think there's a real PS3 emulator yet, so better save up your bucks! Besides, there's a multitude of games to play on the PS3 depending on your preferences.

So I just finished the Island of Elemia DLC

>mfw that hug

>>7165337

It can never hurt to ask, Anonymous. Give it a try and if it doesn't work out then at least you can say you tried.

>>7165345

You can pirate PS3 games though you'll need to jailbreak your PS3 which means no online for you and the possibility of newer games being unable to play since they require the latest firmware. You'll still need to invest in a PS3 though regardless since emulation is out of the question.

>>7165329

Probably because it's meant to be played on a TV from a small distance?

>>7165398
50cm is a small distance.

>NISA's extremely liberal/insert shit for cheap laughs translation

Feels awful.

where can you find the Big screw weapon for Aoto's EX skill. I've almost beaten the game and i cant find it anywhere.

>>7165422
Yeah, but it's still a step above most JRPG localizations.

>>7165431
Atlus does some of the best translations. XSEED does some of the best localizations.
NISA falls somewhere in the middle of those two. Nobody gives a fuck about Ignition.

>>7165431
A step above awful doesn't make it good.

>Cocona's age
>changed to 16
Seriously, NISA? Seriously?

>>7165460
whats the matter, it's not that she looks younger

>>7165460

How old is she supposed to be in this game?

>>7165476
I think it was 11 in at2 and 13 in at3

I could be wrong, just check the at wiki

>>7165476
13.

>>7165460
Didn't they add 3 or 4 years to Rorona and Cordelia too?

>>7165473
Yea. Fucking with continuity and censoring is a good thing, right?

>>7165485
>>7165486

I see. I guess they changed it because of certain innuendo surrounding her? Or because of how old Aoto is? I dunno.

Characters in RPGs usually don't stage their ages though, so I think we can still see her as 13.

>>7165491

They added 3 years to ALL characters, since they added 3 years to the younger characters like Rorona and Corny. I'm guessing for the same reason as Cocona, due to all the innuendo 'n' shit.

>>7165491
They just listed the age they'd be at the end of the game.

Anyone else cried a little when Tyria finally sung the full song of the one that was playing in the tower? The way they were synchronising the scene with the music and how you finally got to listen to the vocal part which started off with KOKIA's beautiful voice ;_;

It really felt like the end of the series at that moment

>>7165505

Yeah that's one possibility.

This makes me worry for Atelier Totori, however. IIRC she's 13/14 at the start of the game, isn't she? And it's a six-year span? So are they gonna turn her 20? I hope not. I don't think anyone would believe a 20 year old would look or sound like that, even in anime standards.

>>7165510
Didn't finish it yet but...

There won't be an AT4?
FUCK

NISA are:
>Moral faggots
>Shitty

Pick two, /jp/.

>>7165517
What's so important about Luke anyway?
Maybe he would play a part in the next Ar Tonelico

>>7165543
>What's so important about Luke anyway?

Krusche wants some cock.

>>7165543
>What's so important about Luke anyway?
He's Tsuchiya's self insert.

>>7165421

I was thinking more along the lines of a few metres. 50cm is a rather small distance.

>>7165564
Who's Tsuchiya?

Anyway, Ar Ciel's still mad. Listening to rebirthia=protocol while recalling the news make me feel so depressed

>>7165601
Forgot my image

Question: In Ar Tonelico 1, what's the name of the song that plays in this red/purple-ish circuity area in the tower? It has some quiet vocals in the background, what I remember most is, "SEP... SEP... SEP... SEPRAAAA". Yeah, sorry, best I can describe it.

>>7165601
>>7165605

She's mad because Japan ended her series.

>>7165601

Funny thought, end game spoilers here.

How did the 3 Revyateils not turn into water when they're at the core of Ar Ciel? Why is Ar_Ru the best?

Well I got my EU copy today and I must say that the visual book you get is rather pathetic. It's looks so cheaply made and it's only half the size of the NA version. Though the soundtrack CD is actually in the game case instead of a cheaply made paper sleeve. There's also no French on the cover. Was Neptunia's art book so small/cheaply made too?

>>7166179

Maybe the XP shell kept a remote connection to their server? Though this makes little sense since the ending (for Finnel at least) shows them on a random beach and Finnel comments about travelling the world yet she's perfectly fine..

>>7166179

Finnel and Saki are extensions of the will of the planet, that probably has something to do with it. Tyria's an Origin so that rule probably doesn't apply to her in the first place. Not sure about Cocona.

>>7166268
Cocona's a 3rd Generation so she only loses her Revyateil properties and revert back to human. XP Shell having some kind of device to amplify Sol Cluster's waves would probably be the most logical explanation.

>>7166062

http://www.mediafire.com/?6kxp73mf0t8okhv

Not sure if that's the song you want but that's the song I remember playing in the tower.. unless my memory is going. ┐(´ー`)┌

>>7166301

Nah, that's not it. That's the normal tower traveling theme. If I could remember where else in the game the song I'm thinking of plays it would probably help better.

Guys, is there any extra scene if i accept Tyria confession ASAP instead of waiting until the last possible moment?

>>7166062
>>7166313

Hmm.. I'm listening to the OST right now and the only song that comes close is Voice of Life/Voice of Life AE but those aren't played in that area as far as I can recall.. Uploaded anyway.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ta6i0aawoua5bm4

>>7166330

Nope, unlike Saki and Finnel she isn't dependant on your phase 2 heart pieces so there's no difference accepting her confession at the start or at the end.

>>7166347
what i meant to ask is if there any extra event scene if i accept Tyria confession early...and i'm not talking about extra ending scene like in Finnel or Sake normal end

Also why my Tyria can't be a Togasaki instead of a Towerman

>>7166436
She's a Togasaki, it's just that the localization team decided that Towerman fits her more.

>>7163812
To what might this "AT book" refer?
I am intrigued, but my googles do nothing.

>>7166496
http://www.amazon.com/Ar-Tonelico-Visual-Book-Gust/dp/192677826X/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1301581
268&sr=8-13

>>7166499
Thank you, sir.

>>7166499
Oh good lord.
Looks like I won't be spending any money on vidya this summer with this and the Atelier, Monster Hunter, and Valkyria Chronicles art books Udon is publishing.
Dying of happiness.

>>7166347

That's the one! Thank you, anon.

And now that I think about it, you're right that "Sympathy" (the one you previously linked) is played in one of the circuity areas, too. I think it's the one on your way to the Rinkerator where you find Krusche.

The Voice of Life, however, plays in the optional circuity tower areas, if I remember correctly.

Just got the best captcha for an AT thread: waveform, lebso

>>7166284
DIrector Tsuchiya says as much in a Technical Data Room.

>>7166268
Right about Cocona, but Tilia's connection between her mind and body would break if she went too far from the Tower. ISTR that just means she'd go catatonic. I think this is mentioned either in the the TDR or in a Technical Service Center somewhere. (And in the bad end, both Finnel and Saki turn to water when they die - the issue isn't so much what or where their minds are, but the fact that their bodies are still generated by the Tower from a Nuclear Triangular Loop, so if they leave the Tower's range, their bodies stop being bodies.


>>7166313
What you're describing is almost certainly Voices of Life AE, which does play around floor 200 or something. Starts out with sawtooth pad synths and harp, goes to vocals and percussion, then piano, then loops.

>>7166616
>Voices of life AE

Holy shit, isn't that the song that played when you fought with Meimei's sister? It was so memorable especially with this music and how she was the first boss that OHKOs you with her insane close combat moves

It'll be cruel if Tsuchiya pulls a fake AT4 preview.

>>7166675
>Release AT4 preview on april 1st
>Everyone takes it as a joke
>Next day reveal that the joke was that it was real
>mfw

>>7166601

Here's the AE version too since someone mentioned that it's not on YouTube earlier in the thread.

http://www.mediafire.com/?py9c4q9wyl8jnv8

>>7166575

Tell me about it. New PS3 + 2 copies of AT3 + another handful of games then I get those books added on top and I was planning on getting a new PC some time soon too. My poor NEET savings are going to be hit pretty hard..

>>7166675

He.. he wouldn't do that to us.. would he? ;__;

How the hell do I pull off super moves in AT3? I've got Tatsumi's first one, and had the scene where you decide on a name for it, but i'm holding down the d-pad and hitting square while playing as him and nothing's happening. What am I missing here?

Unless it's just that big overhead slash with the shockwave, which would be a major disappointment.

>>7167015

None of the "standard" (D-pad+square) super moves are all that impressive-looking. Useful, especially since they give more beat up than a standard attack, but not super-flashy.

>>7167026
So wait, it IS the overhead slash?

>>7167036

I never bothered looking closely through all of Tatsumi's supermoves, but if it's not something that shows up in his standard attack sequence it probably is.

Keep in mind that Tatsumi doesn't hang around for that long so it would make sense that they'd skimp on the coolness of his super moves.

>>7167015
The supermoves aren't meant to be flashy (despite what the name might lead you to think), though some do look better than others; they do a little more damage and give more Beat Up at the expense of HP and slow recovery times.

The "ultra" supermoves, on the other hand, are basically like the EX attacks from AT2. If you've just gotten Tatsumi's first move though, it'll be a while yet before you get to see them.

>>7166499
Definitely buying this.

It could be 191 blank pages with a doodle of Aurica on the very last one, and I'd still get it.

>>7166499

Thank you for linking that, kind sir. I have pre-ordered the SHIT out of it.

>>7165517
>>7166675

so is there any information about another AT game yet?

I will die if the series doesn't continue!
so great games ;_;

>>7167369
Well NISA did title it Ar Tonelico: (End). Maybe they know something more then us (Although knowing them they probably thought it meant 3)

>>7167468

They took it upon themselves to butcher a handful of names/meanings so I highly doubt they know more than us, they probably just thought it sounded cool.

>>7167621

I don't quite get you there?
what exactly are you talking about?

>>7167621
You ARE aware the name change was something GUST and Banpresto also agreed on, right?

In an interview they mention they presented the idea to Gust, who presented it to Banpresto, and they all liked the new name.

So, yeah. Doesn't means there can't be prequels, though.

Is it just me or was AT1 story and music wise just better overall?

I'm probably the only one who went with Aurica first but it was so fucking amazing to experience how she changed over the course of the game.

She was timid in the beginning and the music that played was rather okayish. But after she got her shit together and the battle starts while she says "I'll sing you my song" and this song starts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbpDbZ2gyiI

Man that was fucking awesome. Or listening to Voices of life while climbing up the tower. I think it was to rescue her IIRC holy shit.

I really miss those moments and character development in AT2 and AT3

>>7167634
>>7167734

I know the process they went through to change the name because one of their translators apparently learnt hymmnos (Which apparently didn't help much) so they added that into the title to show they cared for AT3 this time around after the fiasco with AT2. I never even mentioned the title of the game though - I was more referring to things changed in game rather like Cocona's age (Fucked up continuity), English hymmnos names changed for absolutely no reason (Fucks up their meanings), technical terms changed (HYMME > HYMN) etc. If I recall correctly there's a thread on both the ARM forum and the NISA forum with a list of all of these pointless changes that were made. So while they might have gotten permission to change the name I doubt they know more than us as shown by their localisation is what I was trying to say.

>>7167952
Now you're bitching about, basically, trivial shit. The age changes were made 'cause, well, do you think NISA can stand against 'buncha feminists and other faggots demanding them for X or Y?

I can somewhat agree on term and name changes, though, but even then they don't affect the game that much. Hell, HYMME and HYMN both end up being the same shit, so changes are, basically, superficial.

...Well, except the fact that the translation seems to be made by a fucking redneck. Then again, it doesn't show that much, either, so whatever. When they ain't going "fo' sho'" and stuff like that, the translation's pretty good, though.

>>7167899
I'd say AT3 wins over AT1 storyline wise, don't know why, but it does. In my opinion, at least.

Can agree with you on the music, though. At least the Hymmnos.

Oh boy, it's Friday in Japan now! I think I'll go check out the new Toukousphere, hopefully they'll have more Alfman/Ar Ru jokes, and the Dojo theme is "new semesters" so I bet there will be some great pictures of Harve in a unif

> ◇トウコウスフィア最終回！！！◇

welp

>>7167980
>The age changes were made 'cause, well, do you think NISA can stand against 'buncha feminists and other faggots demanding them for X or Y?

In all honestly, a game that will be lucky to sell 100,000 copies over here is never going to get enough popularity for negative media attention over the ages of the characters to be an issue.

That said, complaining about the developer/localizer of a game saying the characters are older than they are in a game that has some of its roots in a genre that plays that card ALL THE FUCKING TIME is kind of stupid. It's pointless, yes, but it doesn't impact the quality of the game at all. Same goes for the slight changes in some of the names.

>>7168017
Well, you never know. Surely it wouldn't be Fox News nor anything, but I was browsing the other day throughout AT related websites and articles, and found myself seeing a discussion about how some feminists would avoid ATQ because of the ESRB description, bitching about blah blah sexism and whatnot.

It derivated into a discussion regarding the other two games, and how making Reyvateils wear costumes was blatant sexism.

...Yeah.

>>7167980

>HYMME and HYMN both end up being the same shit

Hymn != HYMME

I never said it wasn't 'trivial shit', the game is more than playable. I'm just simply pointing out that changes were made to the game that were completely unnecessary which shows that NISA aren't exactly 'in the know' with these kind of things.

As for Cocona it seems like a silly change to me - At most you see her, a 13 year old, in a swim suit. This is bad how? Then again NA gave the game a mature rating whilst it's only a 12+ here in Europe. Still fucks with continuity regardless.

>>7168052
Well, said changes honestly don't bother me that much when I'm playing the game. I see why the age change is, indeed, somewhat of a problem- but I just shrug it off, personally.

Only reason I can see Cocona's age being changed could be whatever innuendo or romantic relationship could be surrounding her. I haven't played Qoga yet, though, I'm just saiyan. Either NISA forgot how many years Qoga takes place after 2 or ignored it.

Also, if Cocona's age isn't stated in-game (as in by mouth of characters, not the easily ignorable bio screen) and the number of years after 2 isn't stated, you can still "pretend" she's 13.

>>7168106

The characters' ages are only mentioned in their profiles in the glossary/status screen. So no, doesn't do anything to the gameplay at all.

>>7168106
Censorship is retarded regardless. Also, screws with continuity (especially since it's implied she has been on Sol Cluster for more than two years) since there's no correction anything.

>>7168214

Well, at least it's easy to ignore. I do think it's a silly change myself, though, especially when there's worser things in the game that made it through (Purges 'n' shit).

>>7167899
AT1's music is my fav of the series for sure

>>7168012

Be sure to grab a copy of the latest TKS before it gets changed back as it would be nice to get one of the April fools translated Assuming Mir is still doing the TKS translations

How do you get the Hyuma in Tyria's home in the BF lvl1. I keep getting kicked out when i enter but if i go do the next event the star at her home disappears.

>>7168888
Get to lv3 of her Cosmosphere.

>>7167899
I disagree with the fact that AT1 has a better storyline, though I agree that there was more outward character development. The other two games seem to have most of it internally, as in better cosmospheres(you're free to disagree with me, but Finnel's is probably the best cosmosphere I've gone through).

So I loaded up the first AT game on the emulator
the sound's all choppy and the emulator has like pink lines running across the screen and it's laggy
what are the settings I should use to optimize gameplaying experience

Fuck all these Reyvateils.
I want Skycat.

>>7167899
AT1 has some great tracks but if you to base it on the entire soundtrack, I like AT2's a lot more

I like the pacing in AT1 too. All dem "final bosses" and fake credits. AT2 made it up with its characters though. Even the final boss came out of nowhere but their motivations and personalities made it through when they sung sublimation ~infel

>>7166499
So what's inside? Does it contain content from the previous 3 books?

>>7169149
You'll have to dig around in the archives for the settings or do some trial and error. Sorry but I don't have the settings with me now.

>>7169293
it's okay, whenever you get around to posting them I'll just check back again, I'm not in a big rush and am too busy to do trial and error runs

So I take it that this news has already been discussed on /jp/?

http://rpgfan.com/news/2011/1374.html

http://rpgfan.com/news/2011/1374.html

>>7169381
>>7169382
Oh gosh, that'd be terrible!
If it wasn't April 1st.

>April Fool's Joke
>Discuss

What is there to discuss exactly

>>7169183
She will never love you back.

>>7169390
A guy can dream, can't he?

>>7169382
There will be tons of deredere Lightning cameos. They can take my money any time.

Obligatory.

I can't freakin wait, i preordered Ar Tonelico Qoga and atm the package is being in my towns postal service.

>>7169803
How sure are you they won't rip open your package and leave stains on your visual book?

Just started playing today even though I got it a week ago. Didn't like Aoto's English voice. Changed to Japanese. Didn't like his Japanese voice either. Now just X whenever he says something. Not really liking Christina Vee or Stephanie Sheh so I'll probably just leave it in Japanese.

Accidentally learned that hitting X in battle makes your Reyvateil use magic. Maybe I should read the manual tomorrow. Don't like how if you hit square it locks you into attack mode. Even if you're out of range you will beeline towards an enemy and can't cancel it (well, maybe you can, but again, I should probably read the manual). NPC AI is retarded because it basically runs up and gets the hell beat out of them as they don't dodge or circle the enemy. The doctor tends to stand slightly out of range so he manages to stay alive because of his weapon. Some enemies can hit you even if you aren't in visible range but still in their "cone" so you have to be careful.

Definitely not the best game out there but I like Ar Tonelico so I'll keep playing.

>>7170300
You can run in an opposite direction, thus making you cancel a certain attack.

I actually got used to Saki's and Aoto's voice after a while, personally.

FUCK FUCK FUCK I SO MAD
I DID ALL I FUCKING COULD FOR TYRIA'S LV 3 COSMOSPHERE ON MY OWN WITHOUT USING A GUIDE GOING THROUGH NUMEROUS LOOPS AND AT LONG LAST I FINALLY GOT MY HAPPY END

BUT NOOOOOOOOOOO THE GODS ARE CRUEL. THE VOICE IS WAY AHEAD OF THE TEXT. IT RUINS THE WHOLE FUCKING EXPERIENCE GODDAMN IT. I'VE NEVER RAGED SO HARD AT A VIDEO GAME BEFORE

Anyway, why did Kurogane make Tyria an imperfect tower? Was it so she could wake up and help in the AAA thing 700 years later?

>>7170484
Something along the lines of "lol I'll show you what happens if you don't approve of me (and fund me)!" And yeah, he's being an ass toying with the fate of the planet. Took everyone else 700 years to correct it.

>>7170507
He was such a major asshole. What kind of deranged fuck makes a girl fall in love with him just so he can kill himself in front of her. I thought he was a good person because of how highly tyria thought of him at first

>>7170300

Yeah, it took me a bit to stop accidentally hitting X to trigger Reyvatail magic as well.

I feel like relative to the others AT3 starts out kinda weak but makes up for it when it gets awesome in the mid/late game, since rather than spreading out all of its epic moments across the game like 1/2 did they pack them all into the last phase and a half.

>>7170525
I can't remember if the tower was built before or after Grathnode Inferia, but he wasn't given a second chance at his project. Tilia is a nice girl for liking him based on his attitude towards her, and doesn't bear a grudge.

>>7170484

I feel the same. Tilia was trolling the hell out of me for about 3 runs of her level 3 binary field, I got what she called a 'normal ending' and said I could do better, once.

another time she like 'what's wrong? can't even stay alive till the end? don't worry, I'll put you back to the point where you disappointed me.' then put me in the middle of a plot I wasn't even on, which lead to the you get shot through a door end.

I gave up and went and completed the game.

Funny how Tilia only likes you if you chose

>Just doing my job
instead of
>We're friends!

It's like women in the real world. The moment you express interest, they friendzone the hell out of you

>>7170574

>atelier rorona

I didn't even notice that till now.

>>7170574

I love how Aoto's eyes aren't drawn in the CGs, in true visual novel style.

>>7170583
Yeah, they should totally make a talk topic about it. Also, does AT3 have fewer talk topics than the previous games?

>>7170580
I only noticed it during the VN credits. When I was still raging so hard at the voice fuck ups. Gonna have to replay the cosmosphere level after completing the game and setting it to the eng dub. I hope it includes the conversation after the credits

a bit off-topic but after at3 I need a new rpg, which one should I get?

Eternal Sonata
Nier (got spoilered on endings though)
Star Ocean 4
Agarest - Generations of War
Atelier Rorona

Thanks in advance

>>7170601

haha I had exactly the same problem a few days ago,
and I decided to give atelier rorona a try!

does look interesting in my opinion!

>>7170601
Rorona or Nier. Flip a coin or pick which you'd rather play.
The rest are absolute garbage by the way.

Is it just my game being shit, or are there loads of bits that were voiced in the Japanese version that aren't voiced in the English versions?

>>7170617

Yeah, NISA didn't have the budget to dub everything, apparently.

>>7170617
why would you want to listen to english anyways when Aoto has delicious SASUKU voice and Richa has delicious C.C. voice and Finnel has delicious Yui(Angel beats) Voice?

>>7170617
why would you want to listen to english anyways when Aoto has SASUKE(lolnaruto) voice and Richa has delicious C.C. voice and Finnel has delicious Yui(Angel beats) Voice?

>>7170631
Because Mute's voice in English is fucking priceless.

>>7170634
I like the Japanese much more of mute.
Is her voice still manly in normal appearance?

>>7170631
I thought it was Shirou voicing Aoto, or do they share the same VA?
Anywho, I figure I'll play through the game once by ear (in English) and see what ending I get, then do a second play-through in Japanese and save-scum like a mofo to get 100%. So far English has been average, but if the Japanese VA is terrible I can just switch back in NG+.

Jakuri unrelated.

>>7170639
same va also same va for the glasses guy ishida or something like that from bleach

>>7170631
>>7170639
>shirou and sasuke sharing the same VA
FACE BLOWN

>>7170601
Get NIER, mang. Seeing that you like Ar Tonelico, Nier has the perfect blend of music and story. And I think you should wait for Totori instead of getting Rorona. The story and characters are more fleshed out

So far I've encounter 2 freezes in my game, one was at Moocheriel before you fight Ar_Ru for real and the other was at Saki normal, shitframe final boss.

>>7170841

Normal end final boss seems to be a common freeze point.

Would probably be a good idea for those who haven't done that part yet to just reboot the damn game once you hit the save point at Ku.

>>7170841

I crashed on the opening the second time I turned it on.

>>7170601

>Eternal Sonata

I really enjoyed this back when it was released on the 360, I'd definately say give it a try if you can grab it for cheap.

>Nier (got spoilered on endings though)

A nice game, some VN style moments similar to AT and multiple endings as you already know. The combat is actually pretty fun too though a little stale by the end of the game.

>Star Ocean 4

Its only redeemable feature was the combat system when I played it on the 360. If you get the international version then I guess having Japanese audio would make it 100 times better than the shitty English dub but it still wasn't THAT great, in my opinion. Some rather delicious characters are in the game though like Reimi.

>Agarest - Generations of War

I've heard this is pretty generic shit but haven't played it personally.

>Atelier Rorona

I'm currently playing this myself and it's quite fun. Some stuff could definately be improved (which it has been with Totorin/Meruru) but it's still enjoyable.

>>7170300

Shirou was fine for me, it was Saki's annoying voice that made me want to throw my controller at my TV, thankfully there was a skip option for the dialogue so I could skip 99% of it while going through her route.

>>7170639

The Japanese voice work is actually pretty good. As I mentioned the only voice that gets mind numbingly annoying after a first playthrough is Saki (for me) otherwise all of the other voice work is very nice.

Finally i got Tilia True End...kinda disappointing but at least it still better than Shurelia End. and Jakuri End still the best ending ever

My god Soma, why are you so delicious? I could watch her purge scenes forever.

Fun fact: When you look at Sasha's profile, it says she's 15 years old in AT3, yet when you read the glossary it mentions her true age, 13.

>>7170841
Had the game freeze on me 0 times, basically doing the same I did with Rorona: When there's some rather weird slowdown or longer loading times happening, I turn off the PS3 and let it rest for a while.

>>7170977
Tilia's end is Shurelia's end without the asshole move of showin' up to the other two girls; on the plus side, means the ending doesn't feel recycled, as well.

>>7170977

No girl will be your gal wife ;_;

What does Suzunomias Flipsphere at the end say? The giant block that comes from the sky

Man, I just got to the bit in Finnel's cosmosphere where she has done a poo in the toilet. I can't look at her the same way again.

mfw Soma calls the new Waterfall Golden Shower

>>7170300
>Accidentally learned that hitting X in battle makes your Reyvateil use magic.

Haven't played Qoga yet, but... WHAT? They made X, the most used button in all Playstation games, the spell cast button? Why? It should have been the attack button! They should have made it circle like the previous games.

>>7171815
Circle is now the panic button to kick enemies out of range of your Reyvateil if they get too close.

>>7171835

I see. I still find it strange they used X for spell casting, though, but I guess they couldn't use any other button (I assume Triangle opens the menu, not start).

>>7170639

You know, this picture seems hotter with the see-through apron more than if she was plain nude.

>>7171547
It's about how she'll make her appearance in the Toukousphere, IIRC.

I think Ar Ru is definetly the hottest and cutest of all.

Why couldn't she be the third romance option?
She's so awesome ;_;

>>7171846
Y'know, there actually is a naked version and the one with the apron is infinitely better, just because of her expression.

>My face when I go to load my clear save to the "Battle of Fate" so I can get Tyria/Cocona ends and find out it doesn't let me rechoose the heart choice there.

>>7172056

Was there an April fools TKS?

>>7172245

It takes like an hour or two to blitz through to that area anyway. Just grab some air sprays and ignore everything.

would i have to make a separate save at the tilia choice to be able to do both her ending in one play though?

>>7172245
And that's why you keep a save right before that choice.

Well, you have to deal with the grinding again, but that's about it.

Is it bad that I only now know to use X for spell-casting?
I've just been using my vanguards for everything, and S'ing pretty much every battle to boot.

I'm only playing on Normal though, so that's probably less impressive/stupid than I think.

>executive district
>again

FUCK THIS SHIT

>>7163559
Just bumping this, downloading the hymns and getting out of here. Or maybe not, I'm too lazy for torrents.

>>7172590

First two phases = Mash square to win. Phase 3-4 = supermove 8 times, purge 3 times, win. Hard mode at least makes it remotely difficult.

>>7172688

Tell me about it. I cleared that fucking area getting the chests on my first playthrough (which was on hard mode) then you're basically forced back into the place a number of times after that event with a fresh encounter bar, really damn annoying. Air Spray comes extremely handy in that area, especially on NG+ playthroughs just so you can avoid the ridiculous encounter rate while dashing to the 2 doors.

>>7172562
Well I did, but once the option for using NG+ to start from there was exhausted I just decided to blaze through it from the get go and try a little harder for 100% chests, etc.

>>7172688
>See random yellow thing.
>"That's obviously some sort of switch."
>Spend 20 minutes figuring out how the hell to get there.
>DOES NOTHING

WHY

How does New Game+ work in Qoga? I hear it gives you the option to start from certain points in the story, but seeing this post >>7172245 makes me wonder if there's a point to it.

>>7172827
>See random yellow thing.
>"That's obviously some sort of switch."
>Spend 20 minutes figuring out how the hell to get there.
>DOES NOTHING
God this shit happened exactly to me, holy fucking shit.

>>7172853
>>7172827

Heh, I did the same.. There's a number of them scattered around the game and they just stick out so badly as if to taunt you into getting to them only for you to be extremely disappointed.

>>7172840

You can load your clear data and load from 3 places. The start of the game, this is a fresh run with EXP/Money/DP carried over. The start of Phase 2, this starts the game at phase 2 exactly how you had it in your cleared data save along with EXP/Money/DP carried over - This is before any heart points are given to any heroines. The third starts you at the MYU fight which is the difference between bad/normal end and true/normal end - again you start with what you had at that point in the game with your cleared save data along with your EXP/Money/DP carried over.

>>7172688
As much as I love visiting Harve Vista so she can tell what worthless filth I am, it'd be nice if there was a express elevator so I didn't have to run the length of the room twice every time. Worse than going in and out of the Tenba lab three times in a row on Misha's route.

>>7172840
Well, it lets you restart at one of three points. I could have saved some time and started from the beginning of Phase 2, as I believe that's where most/all of the heart choices are. I only got shafted because I chose Finnel at all 3 points.

>Do Saki's route

>Saki is a persona and Sakia is the true owner of the body is revealed

>The rest of her route, both normal and True endings, are painful to do after that

At least I can use Sakia in battle, but come the fuck on.

>>7172951

The run up to her room is your way of proving you are worthy to be called worthless filth by Harve-sama.

>>7172963

The game would have been 10 times better if she was the actual character too.. ;_;

>>7172916
The one right before the last battle almost made me laugh out loud, though. I saw it, tried it. Nothing.

>DOOR IS CLOSED
>NEED TO FIND THE SWITCH
>YOUUUUUUUSONUVABITCH

Man I just beat it and got true route. (Finally)
What a wonderful adventure.

Suzunomiya's voice is like music, I could listen to her all day. Soma is still the most delicious though.

Also, is it me or are there lots of Heart Aprons in Clustania?

>>7173089

Hands off, she's my waifu. I'm surprised nobody likes her more, she gets very little attention despite the ear sex.

>>7173089
>suzunomiya
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
I wished they kept those marks on her face for her 3D model. That's the whole charm!

Does AT3 have fewer talk topics or are the squares just bigger? I'm almost done filling up the girls' talk topics when I couldn't even get more than 75% on the previous games

>>7173175
Yeah I think its fewer or they're easily obtainable this time around.

>>7172916
>>7172954

I see. Is it true that you can't rechoose your option in the heart point event even on NG+?

>>7173136
Yes, she is lovely in the Cosmosphere, you have good taste, sir. Pity that Soma gets more screentime than her or Yurishica.

>>7173207
You could start the NG+ from Phase 1 or 2. It doesn't take long this time since you could fast forward conversations and be extremely high leveled.

Ar Ru is the best AT girl
Also the cutest

No other reyvateil can compare to her
;_;

>>7173222
She's cute but suffers from lack of screentime (outside of DLC) and she sounds like a granny.

>>7173234
I agree on the voice.
Reminds me of AT1 where the english voice of Shurelia sounded like 40+

Doesn't matter though I still like her the most.

>>7173221
>It doesn't take long this time since you could fast forward conversations

Oh, that's good to hear. I've beaten AT1 last month, and tonight I completed my last route for AT2, and I would have loved to have had a skip-scenes/text-you've-seen kind of function. Thank goodness the emulator has a turbo button function.

>>7173243
>Reminds me of AT1 where the english voice of Shurelia sounded like 40+

Her out-of-Linkage battle voice is the worst. It sounds more robotic than her Linkage voice. At least her Linkage voice sounds all right.

>>7173222
>Ar Ru is the best AT girl
>Also the cutest
Amen to that. Seriously, I wish she was in it more.

Pan of Age.

I can't help but like Soma the best of the personnae just because she reminds me too much of Jakuri.

I always like the 3rd reyvateils the most though, and AT3 has been no exception.

Agepan...
http://ar-tonelico.jp/4th_anniversary/syukuji/ntny_syukuji_1280.html

>>7173298
>I can't help but like Soma the best
>I always like the 3rd reyvateils the most though, and AT3 has been no exception.
>Tilia is the 3rd reyvateil

makes no sense

>>7173298
Oh and also Soma's 1-3 Purge is the best, imo.

>>7173311
Best... of the personnae?

>>7173311
Count every individual and you get up to 10 Revyateils in the game.

>>7173311

I think he means of the personae he likes Soma most, but of the three Reyvateils he likes the Third one most.

>>7173312
I felt that Filament's was the best
Soma has the best flipsphere though

>>7173319
>>7173313

Fuck I'm stupid.
Should go to bed. 6:40 AM here played too much at3

also fucking birds are too loud outside

>>7173326
dat red mouth

>>7173304
HOW CAN I SAVE THAT VIDEO?

oh god

>Dislikes: Stripping
Yet she looks the happiest and points at you while purging.

>>7173312
I'd say Ar Ru had the best purge.
Soma's was second but it was only good in 3~4.

Also how the hell was I supposed to stay alive in Tyria's 3rd cosmosphere level

>>7173343
thats a doujin isn't it? is it scanned? because I can't find anything.

>>7173351
If you don't mind gamefags, there's one really useful guide here.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/976762-ar-tonelico-qoga-knell-of-ar-ciel/53388951

>>7173326
Most of them are pretty great, to be honest. Soma's and Tyria's mostly, but Ar Ru's is pretty high up there too.

Though I think it's amusing that they make Tyria's breasts quiver EVER SO SLIGHTLY. Even though she's not moving a whole lot... you can't even tell unless you're focusing on it, lol.

>>7173365
>Though I think it's amusing that they make Tyria's breasts quiver EVER SO SLIGHTLY
Finnel's does the same thing.

>>7173363
Thanks, man.
Geez I'm listening to the OST and I feel so sad to see it all end. That was a damn good 78 hours.

holy shit i was at the part where you get sarapatra and i was genuinely like "who the fuck is that?" when i looked in my party

>>7173370
Well yeah, but she's kinda... doing something that would cause it. With Tyria it's like Gainaxing... a DFC girl.

>>Teppo
>>MOTHERFUCKING AYAKA SAITOU

So I figured since my boss graciously gave me Saturday off in the middle of our second peak, I'd go ahead and try to finish AT2 this weekend.
Hurr goes!

I felt no attachments to the Songs in AT3. Might be because you never had a need to go Hymm crystal hunting.

>>7173414
>Arphage
>Cosmoflips


Get out

>>7173414
I thought the same thing.
Now I'm listening to the OST and missing the adventure.

>>7173421
Well take these two for example:
EP=NOVA
That was nice running around the factory, wait what you're gonna start singing?
Z
Alright you're cornered, wait, where the hell you get that from?

I felt they serve only the purpose of being a Boss BGM, Z, ViiBaCi MjiiRa, CUTYPUMP, EP=NOVA, etc are like that.

>>7173437
To add on, Sasha whips out METHOD_HYMMELI_. from nowhere and said she created it.

Hence my point, lack of hunting of Hymm crystals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRx1xgFZBR4

skip to 6:18 and say again Ar Ru isn't the best

contains dlc spoiler, still OH GOD HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH

>>7173328
I WANT IT AS MY WALLPAPER BUT THE GAME DOESN'T HAVE A "SAVE IMAGE" OPTION =(

>>7173341
>>7173304
when was this released?

>>7173474
>With this level also comes a special 3D feature for the closing DFC scene


OH GOD

>>7173304
GRNGHH

>>7173509
traitor

RELEASE THE FLIPSPHERE VIDEOS TOO!

>>7173517
To Ar Ru?
Nawh, Ar Ru 4 life.

>>7173437
>>7173453

I'd say their actual execution is more important so I feel that many of the songs are great, in my opinion. I still fucking loved the EXEC_REBIRTHIA_PROTOCOL/. with the whole tower assuming firing position then followed up with METHOD_HYMELLI/. with Replekia being shot half way across the world. Seeing the real world below the sea of death etc.. real nice execution. I agree that some songs were just added in for the sole purpose of boss fights though but I don't really mind, more hymmnos is always wanted (unless it's EXEC_EP=NOVA/.)

>Grathnode Inferia
>Luke
>the way Krusche said she would apologize to Luke for taking parts from his airship if he was alive

So is it possible to come up with a new game in the world just before the Grathnode Inferia incident? Would there be monsters to fight? They could pull the whole Shadow Hearts 2 time traveler thing, and since the world is still in one piece, you could meet all 3 of the origins at once

>>7173597
>luke
I can't even remember this fuckers appearance anymore because the last time I played AT1 was when it just came out.

>>7173613
It's not really important but it's still a spoiler...
Krusche and Jack are looking for him in AT3 and he's said to be dead after having lost all contact with the Think Tank

>>7173619
it's beyond unimportant tbh. just a cameo excuse imho

So tonight I completed Luca's ending on AT2, and with that being the last route I am finally completely done with AT2.

Whew. What a ride. It only took me almost two months... I have to say that AT2 was pretty good. But story and music wise I think I liked AT1 more. I'll get into more pros and cons of the two games later, as this thread has reached its bump limit.

All I need now is an HDTV, which I may get tomorrow, and I can start on Qoga.

>>7173597
Tsuchiya will find a way.

>>7173639
But SUBLIMATION, REPLEKIA and VIENA? ;_;

>>7173628
Guess so... I'm just so desperate for a 4th game
It just doesn't feel like the end unless everyone from all 3 games got together and channel their wishes into another song like phastasmagoria

>>7173646
>It just doesn't feel like the end unless everyone from all 3 games got together and channel their wishes into another song like phastasmagoria
God yes that would be so brilliant.
I honestly shed some tears during the credit roll for 3, thinking that it would be all over.

Also the battle themes sound so much better when listening to the OST itself.

>>7173639
>>7173643
>SUBLIMATION
NOW YOU'VE DONE IT. COMMENCE CIRCLE JERKING OF THE BEST FINAL BOSS MUSIC FOR SOME SIDE CHARACTERS YOU DIDN'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO UNTIL THE FINAL HOUR

I will be happy to sing for your sake, and to purify the world.
Let´s praise the shine of the love.
Let´s praise the blessing that is as beautiful as a blooming flower.
Let´s praise our own Sublimation.

>>7173643

They're awesome, but like I said I'll get into it later, I don't want to post a long post on a dying thread.

>>7173673
>Also the battle themes sound so much better when listening to the OST itself.

Yeah, it was too noisy to enjoy the music by itself. It was easy to get pass that just by reducing the voice volume in the previous games but that's a lot more going on in battles now

>>7173697
Yeah very true. Plus the music overpowered the VA enough at default settings. You'd never know when VA would pop up during gameplay so I never wanted to take that risk.

I am disappointed that the music that plays in the Tower of Origin isn't on the OST though...

>>7173686
Pity their story and female Croix novel would never get translated.

>>7173686
I wish there was a clean image of the earth during the final boss fight. It looked so beautiful

>>7173729
>female croix

It's official? And is that supposed to be someone who looks like Croix?

>>7173729

lol she looks exactly the same. Poor Croix.

>>7173741
>>7173747
See this.
http://archive.easymodo.net/jp/thread/5190043#p5245410

>>7173760
And this:
http://archive.easymodo.net/jp/thread/5071212#p5113958

It's supposed to be AT2 light novel.

I hate Finnel's tassels
So much hate.

Why, Nagi? Why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PS1BjbcHAc

Try watching through 2 minutes of this without cringing or laughing

>>7173761
>>7173760
Why is it that the Ar tonelico world overall is filled with horrible murders and genocide, yet the games are cutesy and rather upbeat? At least AT3 treats the genocide stuff more seriously, but still.

Seriously, gives me fucking creeps.

Question -
If I complete Finnel's cosmosphere while in Saki's route, will it interrupt anything?

I kinda just left Tyria at level 2 (mainly cause I couldn't figure out the route to true end) and left Finnel's cosmosphere at level 8 so it wouldn't ruin anything.

>>7174614
Genocide isn't so bad if it's carried out by cute girls. I'm sure if Milosevic was the little girl it wouldn't have been such a big deal.

>>7175027
But the genocide isn't carried out by cute little girls.

>>7175026
You can't progress past a certain point in the Cosmosphere if you don't have enough hearts for them.

>>7175070
So I would have been locked in Finnel's at level 8 anyway?
Okay then, that makes sense. Thanks.

>Welcome all my human friends!
>So anyone of you wants to play the brain explodie game?
I fucking love the dorodere DLC for Shitframe.

>>7175101
How does that DLC even work anyway?

>>7175110
Only the latest personality pack works. You get to see your results in phase 4, after you kill Raphael, boot up XP, learn Tilia's song in her Lv2 Cosmosphere and en route to reboot Vista. You'll see your chosen personality here, and also a feel more lines at Ku where you fight Vista in a boss battle.

I think she's clean after that.

>>7175135
>Only the latest personality pack works.
By latest I mean the most recent pack you've downloaded and installed. Downloading multiple does nothing, only the last one counts.

>>7175135
>>7175136
Ohh okay, I see. I assumed thats not voiced, right?
I love Harvestasha's english VA.

>>7175110
When you download one of the DLCs, it installs that personality patch in Vista [changes her dialogue in her scenes]. To get back to normal, download the Normal patch.

>>7175157
Actually, it is.

>>7175157
They're voiced in English but not in Japanese iirc.

http://ar-tonelico.jp/AT5TH_VT_FCS/fortune_cs.htm
can someone tell me what is this about?

>>7173937
How dare you. They're one of Finnel's charm points, damn it.

>>7175508
There are more ways to get charm points than just choosing from those two options?

>>7175611
Wut. You lost me...

Honestly, nipple tassels made me give her character design a sideways look too, but w/e. She's pretty great all around otherwise. Dat ass.

So I finally decided to start playing these 3 games in order, and it didn't take me long to figure out how much the game wants you to win easy in AT1.

I mean, you don't even need items, or really, you don't need anything but standard attack and a boom and you win.

To make things more fair, I am trying a no equipment run, so no one has anything on. Standard costume too. I must say, I think I fixed the game, items are useful again, and you actually need to use different songs depending on the situation. I just hit the Virus boss for the first time, and it feels like a real boss fight.

TL:DR : Removing equipment from AT1 balances the game.

>>7175787
AT3 gladly makes your vanguards useless against certain enemies and your Reyvateil's healing skills to be minimalistic at best, forcing you to use healing items most of the time.

>>7175760
Honestly, I didn't even notice them until like 10 hours in the game.

>>7175813
The first part of the game you have to spam healing items at some points, for sure. Though to be fair, once I got some lvl 4 Healing Hyumas, I wouldn't say their healing amount is minimalistic.

>>7175829
Can I stack hyumas with the same attribute?

>>7175829
He probably meant certain bosses that deals ridiculous amount of damage. Like Akane's (almost) instant kill move.

Aoto is a faggot for not picking Akane as a slave to him.

So how is AT2 diffcultly compared to AT1? Would I need to hold myself back to enjoy it like AT1?

Also, that boss took over 10 minutes to beat with no gear, and about 3 to beat with. Makes a big difference.

>>7175975
I suppose that's true, but for the most part, I wouldn't take lightly their ability to keep you healed in the endgame. I had to use a fuckton less healing items in the last phase or so.

>>7176006
I actually kind of touched on this earlier, but it can be mildly tricky with the timing of your guards sometimes, especially if you're experiencing slowdown(which I did playing it on my actual PS2) until you get the right IPD partners. After that it can become mindnumbingly easy. Guard +++ breaks the game.

tl;dr If you want to challenge yourself, just don't join IPDs to your characters.

>>7175975
>Like Akane's (almost) instant kill move.
God damnit I was on the 3rd fight with her and had the fight in the bag (after like 25minutes of struggling). All I had to do was unleashed level 4 purge and win but I had to be a show off. She killed all three of us in a single hit.

>>7176032
Thanks.

AT1 would have done better with a hard mode or something, I wonder why they didnt bother with one.

>>7176032
Not using IPDs doesn't really make the game any harder. On my last play though the only time i ever used any of them was at final dungeon, I went and caught two lvl 9s with instant kill ++++ to make getting the last few ingredients for the final shop events easier.

Urgh, I think I might be hitting a point in the game where having no equipment is not possible. Regular mobs now hit for almost 1/2 my HP, and strong attacks do 3/4 of it. I can't even attack with Misha, since she has to buff or heal the party the whole time unless I spam healing items, which arent cheap.

Oh well, I tried.

New thread:
>>7176786