/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Japan is the best log ride ever.

Did someone say Meltdown?
In all seriousness, though, OH GOD THIS IS HORRIBLE OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE OH NOOOOOOO

I just tuned into NHK. WhAT?! There's a new tsunami coming in

we are all going to die. The energy from the massive explosion will cause a massive rift in the void that will begin gathering all the gravity of the earth at which point we will collapse into the shattered night world. Where a massive implosion will occur blasting into the 24th dimension where we will be greeted by arch-angel Xanaphyus with a quest. To receive the crystals of balance powering the universe. At the first level while trying to jump over a chasm of lava we all fall onto a spike and die. THE END!

hey op the news just said your mom is an atomic whore

>>7083247
earthquake -> tsunami -> fire -> nuclear disaster
four hit elemental chain combo

>>7083264

>>7083247
just exploded lol!

>>7083263
Continued.
This is now an interactive story.
Would you like to rez and continue your adventure.
(y,n)

scary times wer'e living in.......makes you wonder if this is "it" what we were warned about oh about 2000 years ago......GOD BLESS

>>7083278

I'm watching NHK world news, that translator chick is really creepy with her breathing.

Lord Akira is coming!

Sendai is basically fucked.

ANIME IS GOING TO DIE
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Utsuho make me proud!!!
>>Tsunami was caused by North KOREANS!

Reuters: Evacuation radius at Fukushima nuclear plant has been increased to 20 km

BRACE FOR HOKUTO NO KEN

Damn media is blowing everything out of proportion again.
I am just going to sit in my cellar and watch the media blow existence entirely out of proportion and cause the third impact. g'night.

>>7083303
mte
so long and thanks for all the fish

(Reuters) - Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano confirmed on Saturday there has been an explosion and radiation leakage at Tokyo Electric Power Co's (TEPCO)

I don't trust any media coverage of this. All they do is use rhetoric designed to cause drama.

Nor do I trust the opinions of anyone without credentials. I want to hear about the crisis directly from the physicists, or see peer review papers.

Any other arguments are baseless and are poorly constructed from biased media reports and logical fallacies.

>>7083375
Exactly.

Which one of you chucklefucks woke up Okuu? Boy, are you all in for it now! She's pissed.

☢CAUTION!!☢CAUTION!!☢CAUTION!!

☢LAUNCH☢DETECTED!!☢

☢CAUTION!!☢CAUTION!!☢CAUTION!!☢

>it's official: #1 reactor exploded and is melting down. zone of exclusion increased to 20km.

BBC news are showing a video of the explosion
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

>>7083467

does anyone have a nhk stream that's not nico?

The part destroyed looks like the metal shroud at the top, whereas the actual containment is a concrete underneath structure underneath. If the explosion was from detonation of hydrogen gas that seeped upwards from the hot zirconium cladded fuel rods, then there's possibility that the containment isn't completely destroyed, hence hopefully most of the radiation will be contained.

Never thought Utsuho would be spearheading Gensokyo's invasion of Earth. Gird well your loins for Okuu's Global Strike Command, /jp/.

/jp/ - Physics and Okuuspam

>>7083467
>everything is fine. nothing to worry about. the radiation level is dropping. reactor is undamaged even though there was an h2 explosion. and we're going to use ocean water as coolant. however, everything is perfectly fine.

God this is terrible news to wake up to.
I hope it doesn't get any worse for them

>>7083467
nice troll
>>7083487
this, even though he didn't say everything is fine, tI think..

>>7083491
it was an exaggeration of how much they are trying to downplay the nuclear disaster, which is common with japanese politics. later, they will issue a correction statement and admit that it was far worse.

You guys are being told what to think and how to feel by the greedy news conglomerates. Their ratings for the north African protest are down so they're feeding you this stuff. The reactor is fine you sheep.

>>7083508
>The reactor is fine

It arrived safely in Gensokyo following the explosion.

> Huge blast at Japan nuclear power plant
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219
One image is worth a million words.

>>7083508
I do not trust the media or the official government sources, and I don't trust random people on 4chan. The state of the reactor is unknown. A meltdown might happen or it might not.

>Fukushima Prefecture says a radiation level of 1,015 mircrosieverts per hour has been measured near the Fukushima Number 1 nuclear power station. One hour of exposure to this amount of radiation is equivalent to the permissible amount of radiation an ordinary person receives in one year.

Anytime now? 1 more good aftershock hit or another tsunami and we can see goodbye to glorious nippon

I'll tell y'all what will happen if they fail to cool it down.

The cladding covering the uranium pellets will burn off. Pellets will drop to bottom of thick steel container that encases the reactor. Pellets then chill out, liying on the bottom and radiating happily. Humans will come and plug up the container and drop it somewhere for long-term storage. Nothing goes kaboom because the pellets simply can't achieve critical mass. Greenpeace will still scream ZOMG ZERNOBLYOFF for the next twenty years.

>>7083508
Your stupidity entertains me!

>>7083517
so the reactor is in a quantum superstate?

>>7083520
This. It will not be another Chernobyl. Still, nuclear power is the worst idea humanity ever came up with.

>>7083520

>I'll tell y'all what will happen if they fail to cool it down.

Okuu destroys everything, and Orin feasts on our irradiated corpses. No need to assure me of what I already know.

>>7083527
>>Oil company propagandist

>>7083527

>Still, nuclear power is the worst idea humanity ever came up with.

Don't be absurd. Nuclear power is the way forward.

It is also moe~., that is why we call her Okuu-chan

>>7083519
1000 microS = 100mrem = no big deal.

>>7083527
>nuclear power is the worst idea humanity ever came up with

>>7083537
Tell that to the people who will die of radiation poisoning and to those who had to leave their homes behind because of your moe~ nuclear energy. You are disgusting.

It's a bit funny.
We had a thread about nuclear power in Japan about a 2 weeks ago.
http://archive.easymodo.net/jp/thread/6992637

>>7083547
I will kill you all nya~

>>7083547

She can't help her explosive temper. It's her cute character flaw.

>>7083555

SHE'S GOING SUPERCRITICAL.

Insert your control rod now!

>>7083547
Because that's hella different from having a massive sludge slide of poisonous compounds created with the mining of coal, or having dispersant used to break up oil after a leak causing really terrible long term effects. Every source of power in the modern world has pretty shitty side effects that can't be helped all that much.

>>7083520
>Pellets will drop to bottom of thick steel container that encases the reactor.
and the graphite bottom is cracked or has already cracked. radioactive material leaks into the soil below.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN GERMANY

OR
the nuclear material becomes wedged in place because the control rods were dropped into superheated water and shattered. operators keep pumping in water & a positive feedback loop forms due to steam cavitation. the coolant system starts exploding because it cannot vent steam fast enough. pressure drops and the core overheats & melts downward tunneling into the earth.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN UKRAINE

>>7083547
>because of your moe~ nuclear energy
someone needs to draw nuclear reactor-tan. anonymous demands it!

>>7083375
>I don't trust any media coverage of this.
Good thing.
NHK: "The core is melting, but it's no 'meltdown'."

>>7083576

>nuclear moe~, nuclear moe~, nuclear moe~, come on, nuclear moe~

It's right here are you blind stop shouting

>>7083547
Tell that to the people who will die of cancer caused by by-products of traditional plants.

>>7083571
>THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN GERMANY

What reactor are you talking about?

>>7083571
1) Light water reactors don't use graphite to moderate the reaction.

2) Light water reactors become sub-critical when the moderator boils away.

>>7083527
I agree with this anon.

>>7083607
because that's you

It's not a meltdown, it's a portal

>>7083614
to Gensokyo??

She really is not that good of a pet to be honest

>>7083547
>said the faggot who wouldn't be able to post this silly comment on the internetz without nuclear energy

oh the irony

>>7083599
Arbeitsgemeinschaft Versuchs Reaktor

If an reactor explosion occurs only one thing is interesting: wind direction.
Someone has info on this?

>>7083614
So, it's not Okuu?
...
...
YUKARIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>watching NHK world news
>little girl crying about her brother
>feel sad
>notice I have a boner

You guys are such nerds.

>>7083637
I though tenshi caused the earthquake or is it another masterful manipulation by yukari..?
http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL3E7EC0A620110312

>>7083640
Normalfag detected

>>7083640
But I heard calling yourself a "nerdy" is now cool in hipster circles.

>>7083631
FNN has been talking about that a lot, from what I gather the wind at Blessed Island is currently blowing towards the south-east, meaning most of the shit would go into the ocean

japan here, please pray for us

>>7083629
>1978

>>7083702

>>7083621
We derive a much smaller percentage of our electricity from nuclear fission than you seem to think.

>>7083710
>posting random statistics on the internet

>>7083547
So how 'bout that massive oil spill in the gulf?

>three victims of radiation sickness
JAPAAAAAN

She came with the force of 1000 suns.

>>7083645
>I though tenshi caused the earthquake or is it another masterful manipulation by yukari..?
Yukari is spearheading an invasion of the Earth the manner of her earlier invasion of the Moon.

All of Gensokyo's strongest youkai will surge forth to conquer the Earth. At a (super) critical moment, Yukari will withdraw her support, leading to the youkai forces being completely annihilated.

The end result are that:
1.) Human power is set back hundreds of years
2.) Gensokyo is reestablished as the only safe haven for youkai
3.) Every youkai of with power and ambition who might possibly rival Yukari is destroyed

The border between the puppeteer and the puppets widen, and everyone knows who holds the strings.

Western style reactors (which Japan uses), uses WATER as a moderator, which makes a nuclear disaster of any real scale impossible. Russian reactors used Liquid Sodium as a moderator, which made the whole system significantly more unstable, allowing it to keep going without human assistance. Water moderated reactors, in the absence of human maintance, just shut down. This issue is less dangerous then fires still burning in some parts of the country, the media just likes harping on it cause nuclear reactors are a nice, big fear button they can push.

I keep repeating this endlessly. The 'explosion' was from a catastrophic build-up of water pressure, which with this types of reactors are pretty much the worst case scenario. I'll repeat that. Worst Case Scenario already passed us by, now it's all just cleaned and minimizing radiation exposure.

>>7083747
I think /jp/ has managed the most of the news regarding this disaster quite well, mostly thanks to nuclear-anons like yourself.

Sure, we got run over by a lot of herp derp people from other boards last night, but the sticky never totally derailed, at least I never saw it happen.

I just want to say thank you /jp/, I'm sure people won't agree, but I think the disaster was handled nicely by our locals. Nearly all information I got out of /jp/ was trustworthy, and I moved by the genuine interest and worry many showed.

6.0 mag aftershock in fukushima

>>7083769
god fucking dammit can they not just get a break? Or is a 6.0 not really too heavy compared to the shit they've been getting.

emergency earthquake alert again in Iwate/Miyagi

>>7083769
>>7083774
>>7083775
Lets hope the foundation at the damaged nuclear plant is strong enough to withstand it.

tsunami warning issued

Yadda yadda yadda... Nuclear explosion...
WHERE IS MY PORTAL TO GENSOKYO?

>>7083778
NOOO!!! LET THE NUCLEAR MEALTDOWN HAPPEN!

>>7083779
Where are you getting your info. BBC news is slow as fuck

*MELTDOWN

>>7083783
We must first travel to the wish granter.

BIG aftershock in 10 minutes

What is going on guys?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/ is down for me at the moment.
No problem accessing them yesterday.

>>7083788
Get on a livestream of some Japanese TV. They break in for earthquake notices. The Nico NHK stream, etc.

I've personally become addicted to the little sound they play.

>>7083785
Even if the meltdown happens, there's no large-scale risk, stop overblowing shit. The japanese government is fucked because they'll lose huge sums of money, but Japan isn't going to blow up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upPiJ9vOYiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upPiJ9vOYiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upPiJ9vOYiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upPiJ9vOYiY
THIS IS NOW ENGRAVED INTO YOUR MIND
THIS IS NOW ENGRAVED INTO YOUR MIND
THIS IS NOW ENGRAVED INTO YOUR MIND
THIS IS NOW ENGRAVED INTO YOUR MIND
THIS IS NOW ENGRAVED INTO YOUR MIND
THIS IS NOW ENGRAVED INTO YOUR MIND

Times like these are when I appreciate playing some Touhou and Stalker.

>>7083747
So, what needs to happen to stop you from pretending there's no problem? A complete destruction of everything in a 50 km radius?

NHK: 3 radiation ill

>>7083825
Fuji: Up to 190 persons ill due to radiation.

>>7083825
>>7083830
WHAT ??

SOURCE OR I CALL BULLSHIT.

>>7083834
>NHK
>Fuji

Gee, I wonder what the source may be.

>>7083834
http://www.asahi.com/national/update/0312/TKY201103120521.html

For the 3. Other one seems very unlikely.

>>7083774
They were also hit by avalanche.
Even Letty is getting in to the act.

ZUN reworks Touhou 13
it is now about Gensokyo being a nuclear waste land after a nuclear explosion caused by a failed experiment of the kappas. to protect the youkai, Yukari created vaults - boundaries of safehavens, but not all vault were equally made however and all our heroines find out when they got out of their vault, not all youkai were placed into a vault...

fact: 3 radiation ill
fear: 90 people

http://news.tbs.co.jp/newseye/tbs_newseye4671881.html

Damn. Regardless of how bad it turns out, I bet all the American (at least the public) will be even more buttstaunched against developing nuclear power here. And there goes any chance of this Nuclear Engineering degree paying off in the near future.

>>7083859
Sorry I don't have an /a/ or /jp/ related one.

>>7083863
Sounds like Japan's gonna need to build a new one after this, so I suggest brushing up on your moonspeak!

>More than 1,700 people likely dead or missing from Japan quake, tsunami - Kyodo 12 minutes ago via web
Expecting this number to double tomorrow.

>>7083868
Let's face it, we should be glad if it remains at 4 digits by the end. A ton of coastal villages and towns have simply vanished.

>>7083868
doubles?

>>7083868
...Remember yesterday morning when we had 8 confirmed dead and the cancellation of Reitaisai was our biggest concern? I miss those times ;_;

over 10,000 people missing in Miyagi
what the hell

oh god, my precious delicate japan is slowly slipping away from me, and all i can do is watch.

>>7083880
> the cancellation of Reitaisai was our biggest concern?

It still is for me, aside from my favorite artists, voice actors, and eroge company personnel being in danger. Why the flying fuck should I care about how X number of savages went to hell?


People like you make me sick.

To armchair nuclear physicists of /jp/: Are these fuel rods so hot when not in the reactor? It was my understanding from before that you had to shoot particles at the fuel rods to get a reaction to get heat to steam water etc. so if particles aren't being shot at them why the increasing heat? Sorry if this is retarded question or all that info is wrong, just curious.

>>7083880
Reitaisai is the least problem, much will end up in online shops anyway.
Now, if Melonbooks and Toranoana weren't trying to prevent any of it to eventually end up overseas with all their might.

>>7083888
Fuck that is nothing.
I dont even know if my figures made it out of the warehouse or swept away by sea.
No update at all from the tracking.
ZUN will release the demo sooner or later.

>>7083888
you funny guy

>>7083896
God DAMN, I totally forgot about that. I'm very sorry for your loss if anything happened to those.

>>7083894
Even after the control rods are lowered, there's still residual reactions that finish occuring. After that, you have all the built up heat that needs to decay. The problem at the one plant is that the generators failed shortly after the rods were lowered, so they had no real way to continue removing that heat. At the moment they're gonna be flying in sea water to help cool it off. Bear in mind they normally spend days after 'shutdown' cooling this shit so they can ACTUALLY shut down the reactor.

>>7083894
The particles (neutrons) have already been shot at the rods, making the rods essentialy one big radioactive isotope.

You cannot simply shut off radioactivity, it will emit extreme radiation until it vanishes.

How can I go there and help, is there any kind of voluntary work? My NEET life is worthless and it disgusts me how I'm just sitting here and can't do shit.

>>7083894
Yes, you have to shot at the material first, but after that it will react by it's own, since it produces the shots by itself. That's why there is a moderator material in the reactor to control the multiplicator to keep the amount of reactions stable.

tl;dr: It's an exothermic reaction.

>>7083907
Play more eroges. Stop kidding yourself with this morality bullshit.

>>7083907
You can donate to the Red Cross relief fund for the tsunami. I'm sure it will contribute to the overall "save Japan" fund in the end. I'm just as upset as you are, bro.

>>7083904
Is seawater cooling a good idea? Mineral residue forming everywhere isn't going to cause any problems?

>>7083907
You're right though. With that attitude, you can't do shit. Unless you decide to look for something to do, and look for a way to contribute, or help, you are not, will not be, and cannot be a part of the solution!

>>7083922
That reactor's already dead.

>>7083922
They have a bunch of problems. Without the seawater it would have been meltdown long ago

>>7083922
At this point the reactor's shot anyway, and I believe it was scheduled for decommissioning in a few years either way. My guess is they're worried first and foremost about cooling shit down to prevent any more major issues and then they'll do what they need to to get it cleaned up, especially since 3 guys already have confirmed radiation sickness that worked around it recently. They've distributed Iodine to the citizens that were around the reactor too and whatnot so yeah, it's not a cakewalk at this point but it could still be way way worse.

>>7083544
I was exposed to 200mrem of combined gamma and neutron radiation from a cesium source once... No ill effects. Right now, the plant is emitting just under 10mrem... I wouldn't be worried.

>>7083858
That has to be the most retarded image I've seen on the internet all week... Unless something is powering the fallout to move crosswise to the jetstream, it's not going to do that shit. also, the image is predicting a reactive meltdown, which is impossible now that the plant has fully shut down.

Though frankly, the pic is made by luddite activists in Australia who are trolling Americans into following their cause. Retardation is to be expected.

>>7083904
>>7083905
>>7083912
Ah, thanks, I understand now. The obvious problem was I thought the neutrons had to be fired at the rods for the duration of the reaction, but now it makes sense.

>>7083934
You should expect nothing but retardation from Australians.

Remember when in 1923 up to 140.000+ Japs were killed in the Great Earthquake or the hundreds of thousands of Germans and Japs that were brutally murdered during the firebombings/atom bombing?

Sure is peasant tier disaster news here and don't think I even care about it. In fact, I didn't even know about it until today because I have been busy doing NEET stuff.

>>7083858

I know this image is bullshit, but I also know that people are going to see it and become convinced that they've been exposed and that there is some giant conspiracy covering up a single cause for millions of cases of dozens of diseases.

>>7083955
Disasters that happen in 1st world nations these days are way overblown for how much death they cause.

In 100 years a disaster that kills 20 people will be considered major.

ive been away fro a few hours...last thing I heard was that the fukushima plant was on the verge of a meltdown.

whats happening now?

>>7083967
Iodine's been distributed to the peeps around it, 3 workers are ill with radiation poisoning, there's no breach of the reactor vessel proper, they're using seawater to cool the reactor since it's already garbage for effective use again at this point so why not.

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2?ShowComments=0

>>7083967
It melted the brains of everyone who thinks /jp/ gives a shit about japan.

They've had aftershocks. One was around 6.0, another was 4.2, and one is hitting as I type.

That tone *is* starting to get a little addicting.

>>7083975
what does an earthquake feel like? is it pleasant? (small ones, I mean)

lol

>>7083987
You don't feel small earthquakes.

>>7083989
TH13: New, exciting danmaku. With car bullets!

>>7083987
Exciting, a little disorienting, but the whole time I'm afraid it will become a big earthquake so it's not overall pleasant.

>>7084009
Are your hips moving on their own?

>>7084012
Yes and my mind goes blank, but how did you know?

>>7083992
Earthquakes above 6.0, which many of these aftershocks are, are pretty big earthquakes, man. You feel weaker earthquakes than that.

>>7084009
This. Exciting but scary.

The small ones I've experienced feels a bit like standing in a moving train (you might need to hold onto something) except without the train part.

>>7084016
Well, your mind DOES go blank.

>>7084019
He meant the "small ones", whatever that means.

>>7084025
That's true, it grabs my whole attention until it's over.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv
It has just come back.

NHK: number of death people rises to 1000
They are also updating with everything about Fukushima 1.

>>7084030
Survival instinct.

Can't think about anything, just gotta not not exist

The little earthquake I felt in 2008 in Japan was a very very small one. I didn't even get it until it started shaking full on (first thing I noticed was my screen shaking slightly)...
And when it started it was just fucking awful.
It moved quite gently (I think it was 2 on the japanese scale) ... the scary part was that only weeks before, I had learned that for big earthquakes there is a small quake beforehand with an intensity of 2 or 3 and then it suddenly goes up to 6 or 7...
So I was sitting on the chair in my Hotels lobby hoping it will NOT start shaking like mad.