/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>Alice:
>6[A] not airblockable

Can someone try connecting to this?
65.31.150.147:7500
Normal soku.

>>6951565
Connected, but immediately quit. Don't know if that was you or what.

I'll host if somebody feels like kicking my ass.

I haven't played in a year or so but I'm bored as fuck.

>>6951572
Thanks, now could you try it with Soku+? Last time I tried hosting with it no one could connect.

>>6951579
Sorry, no. Not installed. Don't want to reinstall it.

>>6951581
Thanks anyway. Someone else was able to connect so it looks like whatever problem I was having before is gone now.

65.31.150.147:7500
US Midwest
Soku +

>>6951905
GGs. Thanks for putting up with a scrub like me who's playing Soku+ for the first time. Seems to have a tendency to insane rushdowns...

>>6952309
Good games. It was fun testing out stuff with Alice. That one 6000damge combo was amazing.

>>6952347
I don't think I'll find myself getting into Soku+. It's an interesting experience, but it just makes everything more powerful, I don't think it balances anything. Course, all I did was get whupped for 40 matches, but oh well.

>>6952361
Yeah, it's fun to mess around with but I think I'll be sticking to normal soku from now on.

>>6952347
Explain.

>>6953576

Does anyone here have 12.3?

>>6953669
Check /rs/

>>6953673
I meant does anyone wanna play me on 12.3

>>6953714
I'll play if you want to host.

>>6953742
Can't now, my controller is fucked up.

One of the buttons isn't working

>>6953752
And you got my hopes up and everything.

Haven't played in almost a month. Let's see if Soku netplay still likes to dump all over me.
96.225.211.242:7500

>>6951466
>Iku: 5A, 5AA hitbox size increased. j.2A recovery decreased

Guess not! Looks like it still hates me! Wake me up when Caster's done.

>>6953772
Good games! Too bad the game was taking a dump on our connection. It makes it a lot harder to time dragon punches or runpasts against the 6C 623C fanspin of yours .

>>6954070
And AAA5B should not be a fucking tight blockstring either, but hey, Soku netplay! Bullshitting on everything!

any US up for +?

bump from page 6, anyone wanna host? I'm on college wireless so pretty sure I can't.

Useless Bunny tier

>Soku+
Wait!? Please explain.
Is this some fan expansion/patch?

>>6955323
patch, yeah, like brawl+

>>6955325
Ok, that's what I guessed.
But weren't people happy with this game?

>>6955336
I don't claim to know anything about the patch or the motivations behind it. I just know it exists and that I do not use it.

>>6955336
Happy maybe, but plus adds diversity in the combo and pressure system and attempts to make every character viable for high-level play. It also fixes a lot of bullshit Tasofro did with the game.

eastern can
70.52.178.212 port 7500

remilia's weird :/

i should sleep now, gg dude

>>6955371
So finally I can host.
Rehosting

>>6955444

Those were some nice games, but I'm done for now.

95.119.99.159:10800 EU+

>>6955809
GGs.... soku crashed....

>>6956194
Yup, GGs. Reisen vs Komachi desyncs the game? Never had this kind of problem before.

>>6956214
I don't blame him.

Alright, time for my first try at only soku+.

173.58.101.7

Port: 64738

Alright, time for my first try at online soku+.

173.58.101.7

Port: 64738

>>6957226
had fun, despite you never leaving slutfrog, ggs!

work on your blockstring/mixup. suwako can do way better than repeating that same corner string you were doing.

90.224.160.145:10800
Soku+ I guess.
Sweden.

>>6957621
GGs Vinny. Bit of a delay, but pretty playable still I guess. Too bad you decided to leave, had fun.

>>6957621
GGs Mungay. Had fun as well. Sorry internet suddenly died for quite a while. Internet not being quite stable here...

138.16.12.212:10800 EC SokuMinus

>>6958900
Good games. I still don't quite understand how to fight Reisen but thanks to you I'm getting better in this matchup.

>>6959609
Ha, GGs, sorry I lead with Tenshi. That was way longer than I anticipated fighting... And you definitely got better against her; you stopped taking 40% damage from the corner blockstrings.

New update on the tumblr.

>>6960632
lies.

83.255.220.20:10800 EU hosting, only for a little bit though

soku+

Sorry vinny, but the delay+fps lag horrific, was so laggy :< ggs

>>6961203
GGs. It's alright. Lag was from my end here anyway I think. Sorry bout that.

I'm feeling masochistic. What kind of deck would one recommend I create for the custom Komachi AI? I don't think it's living up to its full potential with the default deck.

>>6961859
The AIs only function properly with the cards specified in the text files they come with.

>>6962071

I see, that's disappointing. I've started to get used to her so I wanted a way to increase the challenge for when I'm not playing online.

http://www.tasofro.net/cgi-bin/tasoblo/index.html

>>6965452
I had one of my teachers do this to me.

bump

>>6965475
I tried it because I saw it in some anime, and it earned me a semester of ridicule.

65.74.96.119:10800 Alaska

Completely new to Soku+ tier. Hopefully some stupid connection problem doesn't happen.

age

Is Soku+ really all that good, I don't like the sound of it.

77.6.76.77:10800
Soku+ EU

>>6969186
GGs. I really don't like what they did to my beloved Marisa far5A.
But Komachi so good. Except against them tiny ones.

>>6969416
GGs. I'm having hard time figuring out how to combat Komachi now with all these improvements.

Also, it seems the replays are broken, with some even giving error messages while watching.

>>6969512
Yeah I get like 50% failure rate on replays or spectated matches. Could be because of my internets or the Soku+ changes.

Komachi has no DP or a real reversal and her pokes are pretty bad. 5a is slow and has no horizontal reach. f5a is slow (though not as punishable anymore) and 3a whiffs on point blank. Had a hard time doing anything against Cirno swordspam thanks to pushback.

And Sorry for leaving so quickly.

>>6961045
Hostan, have about an hour before i gotta run

>>6970814
GGs man. Choppy as fuck but fun.

>>6971130
yy GGs, nice 5k midscreen combo on komachi, ughh, i can't deal with her 3A anymore, i should go back to normal soku

67.225.28.243:10800

hosting wc, about mid

138.16.12.212:10800 east coast normal soku

Sure is dead around here

>>6971841
Everyone's off playing MvC3.

>>6971852
>Casual babby's off playing MvC3.

>>6971852

I'd be playing if I could get more people hosting around my area, but no luck. I'll probably stick to Komachi AI until my timing is good enough to find a host.

>>6971875
Did a Hisoutensoku player just call someone else a casual ?

HAHAHAHA

>>6971875
Ah yeah, because mature gamers play Tekken for their fighters.

>>6971158

I'm out anon, the excitement is effecting my heart.

Fun games, too bad I blew up.

>>6972266
Mm, GGs. Rehosting at >>6971158

>>6972281
GGs. Sorry, got work to do.

>>6971158

Thanks for the games, but I'm done. Too frustrated to go on. I'm gonna have to drop Sakuya, for some reason I played like complete shit with her. ;_;

Any morning games?

>>6955371
now with soku+

>>6961045
Hosting for abit, normal soku

bump for black/gold games

also NA

Sure, I'll play... with normal soku.
138.16.12.212:10800 EC

>>6976621
Oh man, am I rusty. I haven't played regular soku in a while so things feel so out of whack now. I'd love to have played more but unfortunately I've got to get going. GGs.

>>6976714
GGs, JP. Knew something was up if derpy Tenshi beat your cow. Rehosting >>6951466

Well, GGs. Other stuff to do tonight.

>>6976726
I don't know what you're talking about; your Tenshi seems pretty legit. Psst that's a G not a J ;_;

>>6976882
Oh I thought you were someone else.

(and anyone that uses that 623 alt can't be considered legit)

anyone still playing?

>>6977293
I wish.

>>6974144
hosting

Decided to do a bit of testing on Soku+ for Youmu because I was really bored. It was on Youmu's 5AAAA alt 214C Heat Carving Cut on max level. It varies quite a bit based on character.

(Takes 3092 damage)
Komachi
Cirno

(Takes 3092-3402 damage based on timing)
Suwako
Marisa
Patchouli
Remilia
Yuyuko

(Takes 3014-3092 damage based on timing)
Yukari

(Takes 3402 damage)
Meiling
Aya
Iku
Youmu
Tenshi

(Takes 3014 damage)
Utsuho
Sakuya
Alice
Suika

(Takes 2624 damage)
Reimu
Sanae

All characters will take 2624 damage if you use HCC too late. The ones listed under 2624 always take that damage no matter how early you use it. If you want to make corrections then feel free to do so.

>>6980293
That's all lvl4 right?
Have some obomb combos.
HCC bomb HCC - 4835 damage (pretty bullshit considering it's a fast and safe graze attack with a good vertical hitbox)
5AAA 3A 623C bomb HCC - 3849 damage
2AAA 623C bomb HCC - 4520 damage
also
low j.6A HCC - 2550 damage
guardbreak 66A HCC - 3547 damage

>>6980765

Yeah, it's all max level. It's so weird though. The 3092 guys only get hit twice and get maxed. The 3014 guys get hit three times and limit at 110%, but the shrine maidens all act as if they only get hit by the late hits while the 3402 guys limit at 135%. I don't get it.

bump

How the hell do you guardbreak in this game?

I'm using Youmu.

>>6982596
Use any ground attack against an aerial opponent.

If you are talking about guard crush, mix up high and low attacks and 6B. But there are many other ways to crush. Even more so as Youmu.

>>6982596
Spam 2a/3a/6a and insert random 3[a] and 6[a] somewhere in between. Receive pro Youmu pressure.

Can someone explain how the coin system card has been changed? The changelog says "Parry mechanics added" but all I can see is that the spirit use has been changed.

76.126.147.239:43300
If someone would like to play.
US West

>>6982743
It's more like a Just Defend than a parry. While you have the card out in the active slot block right before your opponent does an attack. You'll know you did it right when your character glows for a moment. You don't have to use the activate button, you just have to time your block right. It doesn't seem like it reduces spirit damage at all but it does get rid of chip damage.

76.168.228.171:10800

US West, Soku+

>>6983764
I'm sorry but your Suwako is really boring to play against especially with that much lag.

>>6983852
Right.
>>6983764
Rehosting.

Is Europe already asleep?

>>6983964
If you look at the front page it's quite clear they're awake.

>>6983994
I think you mean America coming back from school.

>>6983764
Good games. I got whipped, but it was good practice, so I didn't want to quit. I still have some really bad habits I haven't kicked yet, like desperately trying to mash on wake-up. Thanks for playing.

>>6983764
GGs, Ryas. Your Suwako isn't boring so much as it is stale. You run the same setups, do the same things, move the same way no matter what I'm doing. I'm sure that works for you or you wouldn't do it, but I feel like you watched another Suwako player, learned a couple things, and try your damned hardest to do them in a real match.

You hold a hand and never use it, too. I was wary of the bomb you leave in the top spot until I realized you won't even use it for defense--you want to O-bomb. I suppose what I'm getting at is that you have to stray away from doing the things ingrained into your brain from trial and error and think a bit harder. There's nothing wrong with muscle memory, but real-time thought should be priority in your mind.

man i cant get over how dumb sokuplus komachi is

>>6984569
Thanks for the advice. Most of the people I've played tend to fall for those same setups, and since I only play about once or twice a month or so I've never actually bothered to learn anything else, which is why I dragged this session out to try to learn something new. I kind of wish it'd had been against someone a little laxer with the melee range. though.

bump for NA

76.126.147.239:43300
US West
Soku

65.31.150.147:7500
US Midwest
Normal Soku

>>6985210
allright man I had a lot of fun, but my hand is startin to hurt and I need to go to bed. I had a lotta fun though, look forward to more matches in the future

76.126.147.239:43300
US West
Soku

>>6985776
Likewise. It's been a pleasure. Hope to play some games with ya in the future.

Let's try it.

187.149.18.16:10800 Hosting Normal soku
North Mexico
Suwako and Sanae only player

>>6985783
I had to go. Good games though. I hope to practice some more before we play again.

>>6985783
Good games. Try not to throw out unsafe moves like that 6A too much and don't mash when you're under pressure. Be more aware of delayed bullets like that alt 236 and 214 too. Also, is there any reason why you disallow spectators? I kind of wanted to watch your last game.

Yep! Looks like the game still hates me. I don't even know why I bother. I should just uninstall it until Caster comes out. My favorite is when the entire thing pauses on spellcard flash and then just cuts to a second later when you're dead.

Listener keeps hanging. What do?

so anons still up for some matches? care to host?

93.145.53.100:10800 shittier

>>6986540

forget:

Soku, Italy

>>6986540

g2g, thx for the matches

too much lag ; ;

>>6986540
GGs. That was a lot of lag, I couldn't even do a basic combo with Youmu.

86.63.155.44:10800 EU
soku 1.10

Haven't played in months. Will try Soku+ for now.

86.72.136.149:10800 - EU

>>6986902
Did you forget that you're hosting? How mean.

>>6986965
I didn't, was actually reading Muv Luv and checking the soku window once in a while. Still hosting.

>>6986902
Damn, I guess luck isn't on my side today... The connection died on me, but it should be fixed now. That was you, E-MAN, right? For the couple minutes I could play, I think I'll definitely stick with this Plus patch a bit longer. Looks like there are lots of new linking possibilities.

Rehosting, but still rusty as hell. Will start slowly with Suika and switch with the usual Marisa/Sanae/Aya trio as time goes on.

>>6987291
Can't connect. Better check if you got a new IP if your connection died.

>>6987372
whatismyIP still gives me 86.72.136.149, and 10800 is the port.

Actually, for some reason, I always had issues with hosting games, but never to join games. If it still doesn't work, you can host.

Bump.

77.6.72.146:10800

EU soku+

Let's try this again.

>>6986902
Rehosting.

If, for some reason, it doesn't work, please host.

>>6988199
Doesn't work for me. I'll try hosting myself.

85.29.87.247:10800
Finland

A word of warning though, my computer might crash suddenly mid-game, there seems to be a hardware problem of some sort.

>>6988114
Thank you for the mercy random play. Guess I'm still shit tier on /jp/.
They sure did change alot in plus. I can't remember what to spam anymore.

Why the fuck do you guys still play this shitty game?

It's incredibly unbalanced, the controls are crap, the community is shitty at best, and the game just outright blows. The only thing going for it is that it's free, but just because something is free doesn't mean it's worth wasting time on. So why waste it on this garbage?

.....

Oh yeah, it's Touhou.

>>6988236
u mad

>>6988230
Good games. Marisa's 22C stars are a great way to cover your ass. It still won't work if you spam it all the time though.


>>6988114
rehosting for some more.

>>6986825
Rehosting

>>6988244
Doesn't surprise me that someone who posts shit like "u mad" with an image reaction is part of this game's community.

>>6988236
Wait, there's balanced fighters? You can go play MvC3, SF4 or your other obviously unbalanced fighters while spouting hypocrisy. Oh wait, those aren't /jp/ relevant.

>>6988236
O the amount of mad is delicious.

>>6988236
The community might be bad. But it's no where near as bad as other fighters like Blazblue and Street Fighter.

>>6988274
Every community is the worst community.

>>6988258
...anyone?

It being unbalanced isn't the problem, the problem is that this game is boring as fuck.

>>6988368
Yea to you. Your not us, stop trying to force your damn opinion on other people.
We like it and enjoy it and that's all that matters. Take your "my opinion is fact shit back to /v/".

>>6988114
GGs man. Pretty solid Remi you have there. A lot of "I'd rather not gamble now" moments there.

>>6988854
Good games, so many awkward and silly moments, I don't even know what I were doing at times.

>>6988405
Not the same guy but don't you think you're being overly defensive? He merely stated his opinion on the matter, like you wanted and isn't forcing it on anyone.

Personally, I like this game but the characters do feel "stagnant" to a degree. Most crazy/stupid things a character had in IaMP or SWR was taken away for the sake of balance. I very rarely find moments where I'm think to myself "That combo/setup was crazy, I didn't know I could do that". It feels like there really is very little left to discover with a character after a month or 3 of playing. Soku+ appears to have the potential to change that but is currently too unbalanced, has rather unfitting system mechanics, and early in development to reach that. Maybe in the future it can reach a good level of balance and allow characters to have stupid abilities.

It's kind of messy, the spellcard rules make it impossible for characters to kill each other in danmaku, to which all battles starting from eosd are forced to be like the most technical game mechanics don't really apply so don't bring that crap in.

>>6989105

While I admit Soku is my favorite fighting game, playing the same stuff for a year gets a bit tiring. I don't dislike IaMP, the pace of it isn't to my liking for the most part, it feels more like a SF paced fighter with air dashes. As for SWR, I don't care for the way skillcards activated, it often slowed down the pace of battle for me. Not only that, but movement felt a bit awkward for some reason. However, that's just what I think. I could go for /jp/ playing more fighters in all honesty though.

>>6988217
Long time no see the Idler, I was away for a little while. The game has changed quite a lot with this patch, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to find and read some information about the characters I play, because I still play them the exact same way I did half a year ago.

Well, I guess the rust was clearly visible, with like half of the inputs dropped, specially the 623 and even some 236, not blocking on wake up, using some really horribly timed spellcards, as well as not looking at what cards you have and running into the same traps several matches in a row, and the list could go on. But I had as much fun as ever, at least, even if I might need a bit more time to learn to play with my alt character again.
We'll probably have more occasions to cross swords, now.

bumping this nigga too

>>6989811
Good games _Akagi_. It's been a long time since I've seen you around.

I'm not sure if I'm sticking with this patch or reverting back to 1.10, depends on how often this gets updated I guess. While there's a lot of stuff I like in this patch, right now there's some ridiculous stuff like Youmu's Heart Carving Cut occasionally doing 4500 damage on counterhit, a bit too much for a special if you ask me.

>We'll probably have more occasions to cross swords, now.
I'm looking forward to it. Well, as long as my computer allows it. I'll really have to figure out this crashing problem I have.

Thump

Late night survival bump

90.224.160.145:10800
Sweden

>>6993459
Good games, that Komachi is pretty scary, I need to be much more careful when I'm not at the advantage.

>>6993459
GGs Ika. Hope you didn't mind me playing Komachi as much as I did.

Anyway, had fun and I hope to fight you again in the future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iuF5Uvyogk

>>6997815
It's over. Go home.

Like the last time, in case it doesn't work (which is very likely), please host.

86.72.136.149:10800 - EU, Soku+, rusty mode

bump?

Something to keep an eye out for: dotMaiku's planning on starting open beta for the Soku Lobby (previously called soku caster) on March 1st. So register when it comes out, test stuff, report bugs/issues and help him make it better.

>>6999003
Will it completely support Soku+? I hope so.

>>6999065
According to Aristocrat, one of the closed beta testers, Soku+ did work with it.

>>6999110
>Aristocrat

Up you go.

>>6998374
Trying this again today.

130.245.237.20:10800
US East
Normal soku, might experiment with a character I never used.

bump

90.224.160.145:10800
Sweden.

>>7003951

Thanks for the games, done for now. I've decided I don't like my new Sakuya deck, those alts are hard to use.

>>7004160
ggs lunachild. They were pretty fun and I got to try out and improve some of my tricks (stellar missile is so fun, yet so underrated).

>>7003951
Just realized I never did experiment with that character. I'll host another game for 15-40 minutes so I can fool around with this day 0 Yukari. Same IP and stuff.

>>7004222
ggs supfgt. Though that session went as bad as I expected. I think I learned almost nothing aside from a few counter pokes. Spending another 3 months to learn to start doing "okay" with a character is going to be rough.

>>7004077
Long time no see Mungay. GGs, you stopped just when I was going to stop, nice timing. It was really fun, as usual, even if it had been a long time since our last game.

I'm having some trouble getting completely used to this + patch, specially with Suika. I don't know if it's just the rust or the patch, but my sidecopters almost all end up being upcopters, which is annoying as hell. And I'm still dropping half of my inputs...

Well, let's play again sometime.

>>7004077
Man, I was hoping you'd join one of these days, haven't seen you in forever, very good session.
I'm sorry for the kind of sloppy play right there at the end though, my D-pad suddenly decided to give up to my constant mashing. It's now getting stuck every time I press a button. I'll probably have to get it changed.

Anyway, excuses aside.
>>7004523
Considering you got much better as the session progressed, I'm sure you'll get the hang of it in no time.
I'm not sure what to think of Soku+ actually. I get the feeling that Komachi might be a little bit too strong at the moment, though I like the overall upped pacing of the game.

Looking forward to fighting you again.

Any tips for performing blockstrings? Every time I try to do one the enemy manages to dash out and I either have to back off or get smacked. Currently trying them with Sakuya, I can't get anything more than AA 2B before they dash.

>>7004684
If you know the opponent will dash out after 5AA 2B why do you do it? Sakuya has so many options for blockstrings.

>>7004840

That's the start of the string, but when I try to string from that it fails so usually I just stop at 5aa 2b even though I want to follow up. Blockstrings aren't my specialty, I'm extremely terrible at them and it's one of the things holding me back since I can never hold my enemies in a corner.

Nobody likes getting nicked while shaving. Don't you know better than i? Ever17 is overated as hell.

>>7004878
There is no ONE string. Even if Sakuya players love to make it look like that. 2B has no tight followup midscreen. If you know the opponent will graze after 5AA, do 5AAA with a slight delay. Or just skip it all the way and go for 5B rejump. You want to get them to the corner asap anyway.

5AA 5B
5AA j2B
5AA 2A
2A 5B
2A 66A
2A 6A 2B
2A 3A 623B
5AAA 66A
66A reset
66A 623B
f5A 6A
f5A 3A
f5A 5B
5B j2B j5A
etcetc.

If there was no way to escape when you exactly know what the opponent is going to do, it's a shitty fighting game.

>>7004910
>If there was no way to escape when you exactly know what the opponent is going to do, it's a shitty fighting game.

lol noob

>>7004910

I know there's supposed to be more, I just don't know of any more. It's frustrating because the only thing I really can do is delay my moves and I can't ever land a guard crush. The only problem is I see everyone else doing these 10 move blockstrings that I can't seem to get out of while I'm stuck with puny 3-4 move ones that they almost always get out of. They usually graze while I'm trying to hit with j.5B.

/jp/, this is my first time trying to play through netplay, and im not sure if what im doing is correct- I installed portforward and set th123e to forward, however when i update the router it tells me i need to register - will it still work, and will it still work if i uninstall portforward?


Also, is it possible that i can play online if i just allow th123e though my firewall via Firewall Settings?

>>7005624
>I installed portforward
what.
You go into your router settings and forward your port 10800. Nothing to install here.

>Also, is it possible that i can play online if i just allow th123e though my firewall via Firewall Settings?
Nope. You'll still have your hardware firewall active. You'll be able to join games but not host.

Is anybody still playing the normal version?

>>7006801

There should be, it seems about 50/50 from my experience.

Sokuplus has recieved an update, v0.12 now.

>>7006761
i just went full retard and im sure im about to go more retard - How do i go to my routers settings, would i need the install disc or can i do it off my laptop?

>>7007775
Depends on your router. OP has a guide for port forwarding.

>>7007275
What does it add/removes exactly?

>>7007275
Only two months until the translation of the changelog now!

>>7007775
Check if the router has an IP printed on it (probably 192.168.0.1)
Type that in the address bar in your browser.
Ta-da

>>7006809
I don't see why anyone would play soku+. That shit is worse than regular Hisoutensoku.

75.18.196.102:10800 WC

>>7007814
Why do people bother playing anything?

>>7007814
you're confusing worst and better methinks

>>7007275
just downloaded and played.
They fixed youmu's alt 214 insane damage shit...but now the basic combos with it do crap damage(less than standard 1.10) which is pretty derp.
Komachi can still do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P0OfS7OjbM
EX Reimu still never works for me
Sword card still only removes limit in the air(is this actually intentional?)

komachi's j2a/[j]6c feels as slow as vanilla soku now... kinda sucks

>>7007814
Are you kidding? It buffs Yuyuko and Iku, it's amazing.

>>7011433
cool sarcasm, bro

cool hosts

>>7011468
That wasn't sarcasm, broseph. I use Iku and Yuyuko, I'm actually happy that they got buffed.

How do you guys play without Hamachi? I don't understand.

Also I play Yukari and Komachi. They're awesome

>>7011698
You post your IP and port and other people join.

It isn't very difficult.

>>7011702
I tried doing that with two other dudes and shit didn't work.

>>7011708
Make sure you forwarded your ports, and deactivated your personal firewall if you're behind a router.

bimp

86.72.136.149:10800 - EU, soku+ v0.12, rust is my body, mashing is my blood.

If it doesn't work, just host instead.

>>7011494

If you ask me Iku didn't need any buffs, she's already stupid as is. But anyways...The changes to the new version of + are definitely more subtle than the first one. Most of them aren't things I use anyways so it doesn't really matter to me though.

>>7012134
Still here.

>>7012172
all the characters were bad and they all needed buffs. Some were just a lot worse than others and needed more buffs.

>>7012239

Sanae was considered low tier and Iku, who is considered the best character, got more buffs than her. It's a bit silly.

>>7012239
I am pretty sure characters such as Remilia, Iku, and Yuyuko didn't "need' much of anything.

>v0.12 Marisa's 6C getting unlaser'd again

Yeah no. I'm out.

>>7012134
Still here. Also I don't care about the patch, if you don't want to play the + version I can switch back to the original one.

>>7012251
never said everyone got what they needed. Sanae is still terrible, might even be the worst in plus. That's a mistake that will hopefully be corrected. However, that doesn't mean the rest of the cast shouldn't get buffs as well.

>>7012438
>Sanae is still terrible
I strongly disagree. Sanae has never been terrible. You just aren't creative enough with her. I'd even say that the new B bullets are too much of a buff.

>You just aren't creative enough with her.
I'm probably not, but a characters that rely on "creativity" are generally crap because gimmicks are, in the end, just gimmicks.
I've played characters like that in the majority of the games I've played, and they are horrible. Silly tricks don't make for lacking in nearly every other area.

>>7012512
Being creative is actually the opposite of using gimmicks. Being creative isn't C bullet + kanako rush, for example. Sanae is one of the characters I have the most fun playing with because of all the unexpected things she can do.

>>7012461
>>7012556
Nice non-answers.

>>7012438
If you give reasons why she's terrible, I think you'll get better responses.

>>7012564
>nice non-answers

Was there a question to begin with?

>>7012512
If you think that 5AAA 5B iad j.5A blockstrings ,5B j.5B combos and ground wind (It's like I'm really playing Rachel!) are just gimmicks, you should take another look at her. Those two changes alone at least double her pressure and damage capability.

187.152.253.44:10800
Central Mexico~
Soku+

>>7012579

Ground wind is nice, but she could use something more, although I'm not sure what exactly. Blockstrings I can't comment on, I couldn't blockstring worth crap with her in normal Soku and it didn't seem like she was very good at it anyways so perhaps those B bullets help her with that. I play her in a very campy fashion though so I probably wouldn't notice B bullet changes.

>>7012587
Sorry about that laggy game. EU/Mexico seems to be a no-no.

Still hosting >>7012134

>>7012134
Still fails to connect.

>>7012626
Honestly, I don't get it. I'll stop trying to understand my Internet connection and just wait for someone to host.

>>7012579
That's creativity? I was hoping for more.
Yes, she got some new toys. Yet they did not make the meter using moves good enough to be worth limiting, fix her flight(not sure how possible this may be, but they managed to change remilia's), or other things to bring her up the level of most of the cast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmsOsfPkv4M
Stay badly coded, sokuplus.
Also, I am able to pick EX remilia, yet I can't get EX reimu to work. Is there a different method or something?

>>7012735
It's the same for Reimu. Are you sure you aren't playing with EX-Reimu without even noticing it? You're supposed to spend 50% less spirit when flying. The rest of the moveset is pretty similar.

65.31.150.147:10800
US Midwest
Normal Soku

So, is anyone going to host some games in this thread or what?

Sanae has a super-highjump now.

Has anyone else noticed Meiling getting quicker? Also, what's this about EX characters?

>>7015651
cool

>>7015659
China is faster than Aya but her dash is a little slower. She passed her in damage too.

To get EX Remi or Reimu, hold D at the start of the match. They aren't supposed to be overpowered like black n gold and they change the moveset of the characters a little.

so, people only play on IRC nowadays?

>>7016194
People play, period?

>>7016540
Where?

>>7016194
I've been able to get a game all the times I've tried in these threads.
Granted, that number is fairly low, but still.

65.31.150.147:7500
US Midwest
Normal Soku

>>7018574
Sorry, Duck. There's a half second delay between input and anything happening. I'm masochistic, but not that masochistic.

That lag was pretty bad, even on my end. Oh well, just a few more days until the caster comes out.

>>7018574
Rehosting

>>7018601
>just a few more days
you sure are gullible

and why normal soku? sigh. i was hoping plus would catch on, it's way funner.

75.18.196.102:10800, West Coast

Apparently I'm just lagging like fuckall tonight.
Oh well.

>>7018698
It could be me, my connection sometimes chops up.

Rehosting.

Well I told the fags in #hiso that 0.12 is out but I guess you guy didnt get the news Soku+ 0.12 is out you can dl it here. This is ALSO the site THEY got the patch from.
http://sokuplus.tumblr.com/

Enjoy /jp/

96.247.207.196:7500 EC

bump

I'd love to get some plus matches, if people would be kind enough to host(US west). Marvel is really, really boring to play, and my copy of AH3 has yet to arrive.

Any EU host around?

67.183.20.41:7500 US West

Komachi/Yukari, will play + on request.

Bump. Can't let this die at least until tomorrow.

>>7023573
What happens tomorrow (today)?

>>7024737

Soku caster open beta.

>>7024740
So this means that we can stop waiting forever that a host appears?

>>7024814

I'm not sure. If it goes well, then yes. Hopefully that is the case.

>>7024814
No, it means that netplay won't be coded to give a massive advantage to the hoster.

>>7024740
>>7024737
Holy hell I've been WAITING for this.

90.189.197.164:10800

The botnet opens today? Can't wait.

It's out.
http://www.plus1coins.com/2011/03/soku-lobby-open-beta/

bump

Even though this thread is completely dead, I may as well comment on the caster. Game wise, it still needs some work. Netplay has periodic stutter sometimes, making it in this case worse than normal soku (when the delay is actually smooth). Player 2 can only use their green deck, which is a major nuisance. The lobby itself is pretty nice though.

Still, open beta is just that, open beta. In it's current state, I can't quite say it's better than normal Soku, but still, I'd advise to use it every now and then if you can tolerate it and report the bugs and glitches so it can become good enough to be the standard. The potential is there, it just needs more time.

90.7.225.240:7500 EU+

bump

age

>>7018701
>Komachi changes
># j.2B: Startup increased.

Why does Japan hate the moneyshot so much?

>>7035638
Because 3800-5500 damage midscreen combos are bullshit.

age

201.164.120.231:7500
Texas

BRING IT.