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6980363 No.6980363 [Reply] [Original]

Why did they replace Sakuya with Sanae?

Sakuya is fucking perfect.

I don't understand.

>> No.6980367

Sanae is beautiful.

>> No.6980370

In other news: OP is shocked that the United States has left the gold standard.

>> No.6980374
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6980374

Because we need more playable Touhous, that's why. Can't have the same third character all the time. Besides, can't they get along?

>> No.6980375

Sanae slowly but surely slutted her way to the top.

>> No.6980377

Noob here. I like Sakuya, what do you mean she was replaced?

>> No.6980379

After the 9th game Sakuya said that incident investigation wasn't her job. /thread.

>> No.6980381

She had some toilets to go clean

>> No.6980383

>>6980377
ZUN said in the Mountain of Faith interview that there was only room for one non-heroine human in Gensokyo, and that Sanae's arrival in TH10 meant that Sakuya would have to leave Gensokyo forever.

>> No.6980386

>>6980374

No they can't.

Get that slut out of here.

I want my perfect maid back.

>> No.6980389

It doesn't matter since Sanae will probably never be a playable character in a main Touhou game again.

>> No.6980393
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6980393

Sakuya isn't a main character like Marisa and Reimu. Next game Sanae is probably not going to be playable and if there is a third character, it is probably going to be Tenshi.

Source is ZUN's Twitter from about half a year ago.

>> No.6980395

>>6980389
;_;

>> No.6980397

They should make a game where all the fifth stage bosses to date are the heroines.

>> No.6980399

>>6980393
will she shoot corndogs?

>> No.6980404
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>>6980386

Don't be so negative. They're both great. I'm sure that Sanae isn't going to be playable in the next game unless it's a Phantasmagoria or IN style game anyways.

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>>6980397
Does this include the Makai Maid?

>> No.6980410

>>6980397
Does that include Shingyoku?

>> No.6980423
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>> No.6980425

Are Sakuyafags STILL upset about this?
Sanae didn't replace anyone. Sakuya wasn't in MoF and she wasn't in SA. Even if if Sanae wasn't playable in UFO, Sakuya STILL wouldn't be playable. She's done being playable. Hell, her PoFV ending had her outright say that resolving incidents (read: being playable) was none of her business.

She's been gone for three games and she's never coming back. Get over it already.

>> No.6980430

ZUN should make TH 13 a tag team like in IN.

>> No.6980433

>>6980425

Some guys are, but as long as she's still in fighting games I'll be happy. It's certainly better treatment than some characters got.

>> No.6980434

>Sakuya
>perfect

Nope.

>> No.6980435
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>> No.6980436

>>6980430
Or even further, combining that with SA's character options. Three-person teams so he can pack in an assload of "playable" characters and make everyone happy.

>> No.6980439

>>6980434
Perfect and Elegant Maid it's canon

>> No.6980440

>>6980434
Fixed
>Sakuya
>Good

>> No.6980445

>>6980430
And it should have a Sanae/Sakuya team. /jp/'s reaction would be hilarious.

>> No.6980449

>>6980439
Titles means nothing, even in canon titles.

>> No.6980452
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>>6980433
>It's certainly better treatment than some characters got.

And she was never heard from again.

>> No.6980453

>>6980436
i dunno if extra abilities for reimu and marisa would make too many people happy. they want to play as their favorites, not as reimu/marisa who stole that character's ability.

>> No.6980462

>>6980453
I don't think anyone minded that in SA, except for how bad most of them were.

>> No.6980464
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6980464

Sakuya is playable in 6 games:
(PCB,IaMP,IN,PoFV,SWR,Soku)

Sanae only in 2 games:
(UFO,Soku)

And you guys still want more Sakuya?

>> No.6980469

>>6980464
Yes

>> No.6980475

>>6980452

Now that you mention it, most extra bosses get terrible treatment in that sense. Most of them are just forgotten or never mentioned again.

>>6980464

Only if it doesn't interfere in other touhous getting to be playable. I consider that to be a higher priority.

>> No.6980515

She was too busy wiping ojou-sama's butt.

>> No.6980532
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6980532

There needs to be a Touhou with the best human from Imperishable Night as a main character.
She's the only one that's been left out out of the four.

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>>6980363

Dat OP pic. Dat Sakuya, man. No ice bitch, no harshness... no, that kind of surprised, unsure expression. A serving tray in one hand and knives in the other... the constant balancing act of her existence.

loevloevloev <3

>> No.6980560

>>6980475
Considering everything I'd say Flan is ignored harder than any of the other ex bosses. I mean, she doesn't even appear in SDM endings when the rest of the cast is there. Mokou at least got a whole story and almost made it into Hisoutensoku.

>> No.6980573

>>6980452
Wasn't she an "opponent" in Shoot the Bullet?

>> No.6980574

>>6980560

Yeah, it's such a sad story...I'd like to see more of Flan also, although I doubt it'll happen.

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Where does she keep all those knives?

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>>6980560
>>6980574
It's okay, don't worry about me.
I'll just be sitting out here.
By myself.
In the cold snow.

Wheeeee, what fun.

ZUUUUNNNN, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN MEEEEEE

>> No.6980591

>>6980363
My question is: Why can we have both?

>> No.6980592

>>6980573
Yeah, I guess she was heard from again. But only in StB and the Akyuu/Aya books, which almost everyone was in. ZUN was just being complete when he included her.

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>>6980580
you know the saying: it's like throwing a hot dog down an ally. well, they invented that saying for sakuya.

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>>6980590
It's ok. Flan has a donut. She'll be fine.

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>>6980600
Yeah, I guess so.
I do have it a lot better than most of the PC-98 characters, though.
Like Mima.
Poor, poor Mima.

>> No.6980615

>>6980425
Zun said she is coming back later, but she didn't fit in those games since she had no reason to resolve the incidents.
That's why he didn't want to give any background info on her.

>> No.6980620

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNaMlqaXw3Q

>> No.6980628

>>6980615
It's been almost 10 years since he created her. I think he got drunk and forgot to resolve her backstory.

>> No.6980648

>>6980615
ZUN said on his twitter she's never coming back and someone from SA is going to be the third player in TH13.

>> No.6980652

>>6980628
You got a point, but he did leave this behind in his email:
"Anything I've officially said only hints about the relationship between Sakuya and Remilia, and nothing
about it will ever be said. (laugh)

What I will say is, Sakuya isn't from Gensokyo.
Sakuya Izayoi is a name given to her by Remilia, and her real name is different.

Anything else, I plan to reveal later, so for now, I'll keep my secrets. (laugh)"
It's been some years. I hope he backs it up.

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>>6980648
oh god if it's Utsuho I don't even know what I would do

>> No.6980661

Face it it's gonna be Cirno.

>> No.6980663

>>6980656
inb4Parsee

>> No.6980666

>>6980661
Fuck Cirno, I want Luna Child!

>> No.6980669

>>6980666

That reminds me of the Marisa idea with the three fairies as rolling options. But it will never happen...

>> No.6980670

>>6980666
>Luna Child
Best fairy

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>>6980663
I'd also be okay with Yuugi or Koishi.

Wait, don't main characters in general have to be human? Were there any humans in SA?
Well, I suppose Mystic Square would be the exception. Still, though.

>> No.6980673

>>6980648

He never mentions content related stuff on his Twitter account. Nice try though.

>> No.6980674

>>6980648

For one thing I'd like a source on that, two, it looks like ZUN's possibly going to break the "5th boss" rule for new character unless he has a damn good reason for us to play as Orin. Not that I wouldn't mind playing as Orin, but I just can't think of anyone from SA who'd actually be appropriate.. fucking everyone in SA is a Youkai straight from hell, except for Yamame/Kisume.

Unless that is, he is basically going off the technicality that "she appeared in SA", to use Sanae again, since after all she was a midboss. But... that would be kind of dicks.

If I could choose to play as anyone from SA it'd be Yuugi, although Satori seems most plausible.

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>>6980656
>Utsuho playable

I think I'd die from a happiness induced seizure if that were to happen.

>> No.6980687

>>6980674
They might still have reasons for stopping an incident, depending on what it is.

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>>6980676

She's Satori's pet and 'tis but a crow from hell. Despite being very powerful and charming she doesn't have any plausible reason to hang out with Reimu and co since she doesn't seem very friendly.

Yuugi seemed to be just bored and hangin' around in Old Hell, and was quite friendly with Reimu. Seeing how Suika got to the surface world by just sort of walking out presumably, I'd think Yuugi could also follow you along on your way out + she doesn't seem to be an ass + Reimu demonstrably already is OK hanging around with Oni.

>> No.6980692

I hope Mokou becomes a playable character since she's a human and a youkai exterminator of sorts.

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Mikos will be always be Playable characters, from now till the end !

>> No.6980698

Utsuho's working with the Moriya shrine, though.

>> No.6980702

Sakuya has little reason to get involved if she isn't ordered by her master. And she doesn't care about much things so...

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>>6980698
What if the incident affects the reactor, and Utsuho is dispatched to resolve the incident?

>> No.6980709

I want a game with every character in Touhou playable.

Except Reimu.

>> No.6980713

if something would happen that would affect the underworld, its pretty much a possibility for satori to let okuu or orin investigate, just like remilia had sakuya

>> No.6980716

>>6980709
Keep wishing. Wont help though.

>> No.6980717

I want to nuclear spark shit with a Marisa/Okuu team.

>> No.6980725

>>6980717

I think I'd prefer Alcohol Seal with Reimu/Yuugi.

>> No.6980739

tripleteams!

alkoholics-team: reimu suika yuugi
reporter-team: reimu aya hatate
border-team: reimu ran yukari
reactor-team: marisa okuu nitori
magic-team: marisa alice patchouli
mansion-team: marisa sakuya flandre

>> No.6980752

>>6980739
To change chars press Shift + Z at same time

(just like Marisa~Patchouli in SA)

>> No.6980753

>reactor-team: marisa okuu nitori


TAKE MY MONEY OH GOD JUST TAKE IT

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>>6980393
oh god yes! please ZUN make her playable!

instead of being bored in heaven she will go out and solve incidents.

>> No.6980809

>>6980739

moriya-team: sanae kanako suwako
sanaejustcrushedyou-team: sanae kogasa cirno
becausezunsaidso-team: sanae mokou tenshi

>> No.6980812

>>6980809
>sanaejustcrushedyou-team: sanae kogasa cirno
>Cirno

No. Please no.

>> No.6980818

>>6980812
Touhou 12.95
The Great Fairy Wars Two: Return of Mima

>> No.6980822

>>6980818

Well at the very least that would soke PC-98 fans.

>> No.6980833

>>6980818
>>6980822
Actually, I'd rather ZUN leave Mima alone. I still have dim.dream and MS to play her if I want to, making her more popular would destroy her with fanon making her nearly unplayable for me.

Fanon destroys nearly everything it touches.

>> No.6980846

>>6980833
I feel the same way about all Touhous

>> No.6980852

>>6980739
What would be the point of 3 person teams, unless 13 has an awkward setup like DS with more than 2 movement speeds?

>> No.6980854

>>6980833
Canon and fanon are two completely different things. Canon has an effect on fanon, but not the other way round.
That's why you can just learn to enjoy both seperately, fag.

>> No.6980874

>>6980363
>>6980377
>>6980425
Samefag?

>> No.6980875

>>6980854
Its hard to enjoy it separately when it gets pummeled into you every single day anon.
An example would most touhou's with large breasts, when their ZUN drawn portraits are all flat chested. Its hard to keep them flat chested loli's in my head when most art is them with milktanks.

I do not want to turn this into a fanon vs canon regardless. It's my problem keeping it out of my head anyways. Just annoying sifting through pages of shit to find good fan drawings.

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>>6980852

>> No.6980885

Touhou 12.9 - The Gathering Faith

Sanae is the main heroine. Each stage has twin bosses, one of which you can recruit as a support. Rumia/Kogasa Cirno/Alice Aya/Hatate Yuyuko/Yukari (granting Youmu/Ran as supports) Satori/Shou (granting Koishi/Nazrin as supports) Remilia/Flandre (granting Sakuya/Meiling as supports) Tenshi/Okuu. Take your team of four to the extra stage to beat down both main heroines and whichever supports you left behind.

>> No.6980893

>>6980885
No

>> No.6980904

It's funny. From the butthurt Sanaefags' perspective, everything bad in the world is apparently caused by butthurt Sakuyafags.

I don't know why it came to this, but I'll just say that nobody else is going to be on permanent like Reimu/Marisa.

>> No.6980907

>>6980893
12.95 - Illusionary Fairy Field
The playable characters are Luna, Star, Sunny, and Lily. Choose from Nue, Koishi, Okuu, Tenshi, and Flandre as your support options. Defeat all the heroines. Extra: Yukari and Shikieki conclude that a fairy with that much power is ridiculously stupid. Laugh at them.

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I wish she was playable, but it'd be cheating, seeing she has infinite lives.

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>> No.6980943

>>6980941
What are the knives coated in?

>> No.6980946

>>6980943
My semen

>> No.6980954

>>6980946
How did she get it?

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>>6980907

I like it.

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>>6980648
I...actually like all of the characters from SA (well, all of the ones that would have a chance of being playable anyways).

Yuugi seems most likely though.

>> No.6981578

>>6980916
but she's defeatable, Cirno infinitely revives as well and we have her as playable. Just give her a motivation/pain tolerance gauge as well. Her and and Atomic God Crow are the 2 characters I want to be playable more the most

>> No.6981685

>>6980690
>she doesn't have any plausible reason to hang out with Reimu and co

Except for the fact that she actually, you know, does? Since when did youkai need reason to hang out with Reimu anyway? Any other reason apart from that fact that she's there, that is.

>since she doesn't seem very friendly

You've got to be kidding me.

>> No.6981826

>>6981685
>You've got to be kidding me

I'm guessing you never played Soku? Or are you one of those who follow fanon's dumbmoemoeokuu stereotype?

>> No.6981833

>>6981578
Or just give her plain old lives like everyone else because it's not like they're being killed by danmaku.

>> No.6981844

what about the ending where she said something like "it's not for me" or something like that

>> No.6981859

Humans will always be the focus in main games.

At best youkai will join as teammates.

I'm hoping for a mix of IN and UFO. Marisa, Reimu, Sakuya and Sanae each with 3 youkai teammates to choose from.

But I bet we will get just Reimu and Marisa again.

>> No.6981863

>>6981826
>I'm guessing you never played Soku? Or are you one of those who follow fanon's dumbmoemoeokuu stereotype?
What? The dumb moemoe stereotype comes from Soku.

>> No.6981868

>>6981863
No, it was based on it, seeing as she turned guillible in this game people just said ''hay lets exploit this'', you know, like every other Touhou character meme. And now that you posted that it's clear that you got such image stuck in your mind, no reason to try to talk you about it now.

>> No.6981873

>>6981826
I do not play fighting games, indeed, but I did read the storyline and dialogues.

And she does come off as perfectly friendly (once again). Except for where she has to take care of dumb trespassers threatening the safety of her nuclear reactor. And we all know what happens when nuclear reactors are destabilized, don't we?

>> No.6981876

>>6981873
Now you're just trying too hard, it's too obvious what you're trying to do here.

I'll make it simple for you: Why not ask ''Can you please leave? This place is dangerous'' instead of ''SENTIENT POTENTIAL THREAT DETECED, VAPORIZE INMEDIATELY''.

Then again I've always thought the moriyas plugged her in to explain her robot-like dialogue.

>> No.6981882

>>6981868
>gullible
She's not simply gullible. She is literally retarded.
>Ah, which reminds me, I had come because of the notification that a foreign substance had contaminated the reactor core!
>And... foreign substance detected! Must eradicate that higher power's lowly foreign substance!
>Wait, what were we doing again?

>> No.6981888

>>6981882
Unless you know, those lines of hers are what it means to be gullible. I'm sure you've seen this stereotype somewhere else? ''I'm a genius but if I get knocked out I forget what I was doing in the last 10 seconds, oh right that's it''.

>> No.6981892

>>6981888
Christ, you're retarded. Being gullible and stupid are not mutually exclusive. If anything, they complement each other.

>> No.6981896

>>6981876
Break into some nuclear facility and see if you're going to be greeted with ''Can you please leave? This place is dangerous'' by the security guards.

>> No.6981898

>>6981888
That's not what gullible means. Is english your first language?

>> No.6981904

>>6981892
And when did I relate the two? Please read better next time dear, I said that HER LINES show that she's more guillible than downright pants-on-head retarded than say, Cirno.

>> No.6981915

>>6981904
>And when did I relate the two?
>Or are you one of those who follow fanon's dumbmoemoeokuu stereotype
Here is "Okuu is not stupid".
>seeing as she turned guillible in this game people just said ''hay lets exploit this''
Here is "Okuu is just gullible, people exploited that and made her stupid"
>those lines of hers are what it means to be gullible
Those lines of hers are what it means to be gullible and STUPID.

>> No.6981923

Retardation means learning disabilities, while guillible is just being naive and easily convinced, Okuu's got the latter with a bonus of bad memory. Though it's more that her bad memory is the one that sparks her gullibleness, common sense after reading her lines.

>> No.6981929

>>6981896
Gensokyo =/= Real World.

And even so that's just an example phrase, no need to exploit lines. Would you rather have ''Miss, you're not allowed here, please leave inmediately''.

>> No.6981934

>>6981915
I'm not >>6981868 dammit.

>> No.6981941

>>6981929
Yes, I'd rather have that than being shot on sight, but realistically, the latter would be more likely happen.

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Because Aya taught her too well.

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