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6979301 No.6979301 [Reply] [Original]

/jp/ you know how they say that it's never too late?
I'm turning 29 in a few days and suspect that it might be too late for me.
No job, no education, no nothing.

Is anyone older than me on here who has some hope left? If so, why?

>> No.6979303

There was never any hope.

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6979304

Portal thread?

>> No.6979306

It's not too late, just quit being lazy.

>> No.6979307

Why are you any less capable than someone 10 years younger?

>> No.6979309 [DELETED] 

/jp/ - Blog / General

>> No.6979312

What, you were hoping for something to begin with? Then you should have done something.
Now it's just time to kill yourself, seriously. It's not that hard.

>> No.6979313

Saw off a leg and get on disability.

>> No.6979315
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6979315

>>6979301

I'm 22 and i already feel like i'm running out of time to do something with my life.

How can you sleep at night?

>> No.6979318

>>6979307
Ask employers.

>> No.6979320

>>6979307
Not OP but... would you hire some uneducated neet who has no work experience? Especially when there are people available that have these qualifications?

I'm sending out applications every day, I know first hand how hard it can be. And I got a college degree.

>> No.6979322

>>6979315
I'm 21 and i already feel like i'm running out of time to do something with my life.

How can YOU sleep at night?

>> No.6979327

>>6979322

The context is very different.

>> No.6979328

>>6979318
It doesn't matter. This isn't Japan.

>> No.6979332

>>6979315
Sleep is good. Being awake, however, is hell.
Anyway, you got 7 years on me, do something with them.

>> No.6979334

>>6979320
You're competing with teenagers and starting from the bottom, why should that be surprising. I think OP just wants the kind of jobs he sees his peers that have been working for a decade getting.

I've seen middle age house wifes who've never worked in their life getting a job, I've also seen people straight out of prison get work. It's not that hard, you're just stupid and lazy.

>> No.6979337

>>6979327
Yeah sure, old man

>> No.6979341

>>6979328
What Japan has to do with it?

>> No.6979342

>>6979306
Theres a point at which sending out 30 apps a month will tell you that trying harder doesnt fucking cut it and its all about luck.

>> No.6979349

>>6979341
They value youth while hiring more than we do. Since they tend to stick with one company, they see hiring employees as more of a lifetime investment.

Still, for part time jobs it doesn't matter.

>> No.6979354

Gensokyo portal?
Gensokyo portal!
Any one has that fixed picture with portal to Gensokyo?

>> No.6979359

I saved this from a similar thread, because I thought it described my situation just all too well:

'get a job' is the most deceptive phrase ever invented.

God, it sounds so quick, so easy, but don't be fooled, even if the economy were better, it's no cakewalk.

Getting a job is like loosing your virginity, you're unlikely to get employed if you don't have previous experience, so it's a never ending circle of fucking failure.

No thanks, I put myself through that crap a few times in interviews and applications, I'll just let my life run it's course for a few more years until I'm at the point when I have no choice.

The world is a truly shitty place.

>> No.6979362

>>6979301
Meh, i just turned 26, no job, little education, tho in a year I'll be pretty fluent in Japanese (know a bunch already).

What could be better than no job or no education though? Everybody I know hates their jobs or stresses over school all the time.

OP, fuck it, take it easy. Who says you need a job or education. Live for yourself, not society's intended image of you.

>> No.6979363

>>6979342
So you're just handing in applications and wondering why you're not getting any calls? Try talking to a manager and personally handing it to him.

>> No.6979365
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6979365

Since the janitor has gone AWOL since last night, I think I might just let it all out.

It's been 5 or so years since I graduated from high school and I havem't even been able to complete a single semester of higher education. I've attended three different universities, pursuing just as many majors but I can't seem to find anything I'd like to do. I end up getting frustrated and just stop going to classes and "forgetting" to sign up the next semester. I know I could really make something out of my life if I tried but I have absolutely no motivation to do anything. I had a job once, too. I made good money despite not having a degree but it was horrible.

I'm not really bothered by being a "failure at life" but it really hurts me to see what I'm doing to my parents. I try to make myself feel better by helping out around the house but it only helps for a little while... a temporary drug, if you will.

There goes my day. Damn it...

Maybe next semester I'll do something with my life.

>> No.6979367

Is 29 too old for the military?
If not, then I found a solution for you.

>> No.6979368

I'm 32, just got laid off from my last job. Am I going to cry about it? Nah, I'm already working on securing another position. OP (and others in similar situations), there's tons of job resources out there, if anything you could try:
-A Temp Agency
-Job placement services
-Going back to school and doing the student loan thing
-Blue Collar/trade skill jobs that offer on the job training (Been considering this myself, electricians make good money.)

There are resources out there, you just gotta' get off of 4chan and start looking around. If you're in the U.S., try checking your state's unemployment website, they often have job finding resources there.

>> No.6979389

>>6979368

>(Been considering this myself, electricians make good money.)

Requires class hours. So little work out there atm that it's hard to get an apprenticeship with little/no experience in the field. Apprenticeships start at like $13 an hour btw.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

>> No.6979390

>>6979365
I hear similar stories like this all the time.
It's sad seeing so much potential going to waste.

I don't blame you btw; I know it's not your fault.

>> No.6979398

>>6979301
You could always go to Gensokyo.

>> No.6979405

>>6979368

I was gonna suggest electrician myself.

Pretty much any local community college teaches it, and if OP isn't an idiot then he should be able to get through it fine. Electricians often don't even have to talk to people that much besides placing appointments / collecting money etc. You just drive around and go check up or install stuff. A good electrician can actually pull in good money too, especially if you own your own business etc.

And in terms of going to a community college, if OP can't even do that then maybe he is hopeless.

>> No.6979413

>>6979362
Well, to tell you the truth, I'm actually more than tired of this lifestyle. It was fun for some years but there has to be something more to life, right?

>> No.6979414

>>6979359
If that was true nobody would have a job. It is easy: in fact, it's so piss-easy that even the most incomprehensibly retarded people can do it. Yesterday at the Taco Bell drive through there was some guy whose eyes were looking in different directions, and he said "Hi, how are you" three different times before I left. All it requires is the ability to pretend like you care, and physically going to the place to apply.

If there's nothing wrong with you aside from being an introvert then it's a virtual impossibility that you are failing to get a job and actually trying. Maybe you don't really care that much, which is understandable considering if your job is not also your passion than it's most likely going to be a painful, shitty experience.

>> No.6979416

>>6979398
This is Gensokyo thread now.

No one in this thread has real chance to get job unless they will be REALLY LUCKY, so this is pointless. Time to depart to fantasy-land.

>> No.6979425

>>6979413
Like what?

>> No.6979431

>>6979413

The grass is always greener on the other side. I miss being neet every day. I'm thinking about saving up some more and then returning to needom for a few more years.
My advice would be: If you don't need to get a job, don't get a job.

>> No.6979435

Try going to a third world country like China to get a job, they assume every american/westerner is smart and successful for some reason

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>>6979390

No, I'm sure it's my fault. I thank you for the thought, though.

>>6979413

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNYKxiRJ2LA

>> No.6979444

>>6979414
I'm pretty sure OP wasn't talking about a Taco Bell-style job. That's the kind of job ex-con blacklisted child molesters get after they move to Alaska because they can't get work in any other place. If you're not one of those guys, it should be easy enough to get a bad job in the service field, but honestly, it's probably a better idea to find some way to get on disability instead.

>> No.6979447

>>6979389
>So little work out there atm
Sadly, this seems to apply to pretty much every field across the board these days. Even with education/experience it can be hard to find a position. Doesn't mean one can't try, though. better than sitting at home unemployed and moping, right?

>> No.6979449

>>6979365

There's got to be something out there that interests you.

I initially started school thinking I'd become an architect or something, then by end of first year thought I was gonna do art/design .. by the end of that summer I discovered that I really really really liked reading scientific magazines in the school library, like I'd read fucking everything they had and would get annoyed if there seemed to be a delay in their getting a new issue. Started reading just layman's stuff like Discover and SciAm, but started picking up the actual publication magazines there and trying to decipher what was going on, even though articles in Cell were things like discovering a specific specific vesicle cargo transport molecule etc I was still greatly fascinated by it, and eventually realized that even though I'm not a bad artist chances were high the degree wasn't going to get me fucking anywhere, so I switched to Molecular/Cellular Biology. Even though it took me an extra year to finish school and it was hard on me at first even though I really liked the material, it was the best decision I ever made with school. I didn't do that good at first (Bs and Cs) but that was just because I didn't know the proper study habits for a sciences major... by the end of junior and up through senior year I got As nonstop, even in classes that would fuck up even the pre-med students (who are fucking dicks doing anything to get As), just because I simply was really fascinated by the course material and so didn't need to work hard to remember it. Now I work in a lab and make good money and shudder at the thought of what I may have become, if I dropped out or got a stupid art degree.

Vis a vis fucking try everything, until you find something that you can remember well without having to even push yourself... at first it seems like you've got a magical ability that no one else has for remembering the stuff but no, you just really personally like it, THAT'S what it really takes.

>> No.6979451

Will you have to find a job in gensokyo too?

>> No.6979455

>>6979437
Everything there was to do and see existed yesterday.

We need to make new things.

>> No.6979457

This wouldn't be a problem if our country didn't deindustrialize then we would all be taking it easy in a factory job

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>>6979447

>better than sitting at home unemployed and moping, right?

http://www.oddtodd.com/index2.html

>> No.6979459

>>6979449
Sadly, that 'something' doesn't exist for everyone.
Everything I like is pretty much either not a career, something that seems awesome but is actually hell, or something I can't learn because I'm stupid.

>> No.6979461

I'm 22 and I've never experienced the world outside of my parents' house. No job, no school, nothing. A total and complete recluse. I have absolutely connection to western society, a true outsider.

At least you're not me.

>> No.6979469

>>6979458

Back when ebaumsworld was good

>> No.6979471

I am writing a letter of resignation at this very moment. So in two weeks, there will be a job opening just waiting for a /jp/er to fill it. That'd make my day.

In reality it will probably be taken by some ignorant obese scum who uses the money to breed and feed a bunch of dumb kids thinking that's what life is all about.
Welp...

>> No.6979472

>>6979301
i'm 20 and it's definitely too late to be a little girl again.
the only thing i can do now is waste my time on /jp/ and dream i'm in gensokyo.

>> No.6979474

>>6979469

Fuck, I can hardly even think of "ebaum's" and "good" in the same sentence anymore. Although, I guess places like that were among the best that the pre-4chan and pre-Youtube Web had to offer.

>> No.6979475

I have a dream, that if I make it back into college and get my current clusterfuck of a situation into working order, and make good, that I'll travel around and visit all you shut-ins one day. With gifts, or something. Fumofumos for everyone.

If it doesn't work out I'll join you and we can be isolated together.

>> No.6979485

>>6979475
>Fumofumos for everyone
You are a wonderful person

>> No.6979496

Do you sometimes fantasize about how it would be if you could start over? I do sometimes. Only shortly though because I can't figure out where I went wrong.
It feels like I missed a flag somewhere.
It's strange because I think there's somewhere I should be and that there's something I should be doing.
Until I figure out what this something is, I'll continue slaving away from 9-5, hoping for my life to start.

>> No.6979500

>>6979496
I know exactly where I went wrong. When I got transferred to a private school for grades 4 - 6. I really wish I could go back and convince my parents not to do that.

>> No.6979503

>>6979496

>hoping for my life to start.

inb4 Kaiji screenshots

>> No.6979504

>>6979469
wait, does it still exist?! i thought it's been gone for ages

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>>6979496

>> No.6979526

you have a head start on the buddhist path.. much less useless baggage than most people have. just buy yourself a pillow to sit on, and sit on it until you are no more. Then life will open up like a flower

>> No.6979529

>>6979496

I fantasize about where I went wrong.
And then I realize that I'm 18 and in college, and that the only thing wrong with me is my social anxiety.

And then I shrug off the worries and go play video games.

In the end it comes down to this:
A) You will quit complaining, overcome obstacles, and go get a shitty job.
B) You will continue to be NEET, and live off of your parents or governement money
C) You will stop bitching, and kill yourself.

>> No.6979542

>>6979529
Can we have a D, please?

>> No.6979560

>>6979542
>D) Become homeless, move to a beach city and build a house out of cardboard, proceed to paste pictures of toohoo on inside of impenetrable beach fort and live days simply.

>> No.6979562

You guys are pathetic. I'm NEET and have been NEET for a little over five years. I don't let the future bother me because I know I can change it.

>> No.6979564

>>6979542
D: you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and become a happy hippy with bad bodily hygiene and look in your eyes that scream "I'm Not Heeree!"

>> No.6979568

>>6979560

So would E be become a traveling hobo and have hobo adventures? Because that's what I plan to do soon.

>> No.6979581

am i the only one here who actually likes work and leading so-called normal life? i hate studying and anything requiring any effort but i just like the idea of not staying in my room and doing something more productive than reading books and watching animu.
than again i was literally confined in my room most of my life so maybe it is just the whole concept of beeing able to do things normalfags do is still new to me.

>> No.6979584

>>6979581
Why is your post formatted so badly?

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6979585

I'm studying again. But I've decided to an hero if I don't make it this time.

>>6979562
How do you deal with the emptiness?

>> No.6979589

>>6979568

E: move to Germany and start singing schlagers about horse meat sausages until you get married to and pussywhipped by 6 feet tall woman called Helga who will force you to wear 2 sizes too small lederhosen that squeeze your balls until you sound like a contratenor

>> No.6979594

>>6979589
Way to shit up the list of options, faggot.

>> No.6979595

>>6979449
>premed students
These guys are the biggest jackasses in existence. They act all high and mighty believing themselves to be the next Jesus House super doctor.

Might you be speaking of physical chemistry for those killer classes? I can clearly recall all the bitching and moaning throughout the class during lectures and after tests. Its funny how so many pre-med students think they can get a higher grade brow-nosing rather than studying the material.

>> No.6979615

Honestly, if you're past 22, have no degree, and haven't had a job in the past 5 years, you're fucked.

>> No.6979617

>>6979585
Maybe it's my mindset, but I have never experienced any of these emptiness or loneliness everyone complains about. I really enjoy being alone and I keep myself busy with a lot of different things.

>> No.6979623

>>6979615
>if you're past 22, have no degree
Lots of people take more than four years for a degree now. It's impossible to get the classes you need in some schools.

>> No.6979640

>>6979615
I talk to a 26 year old online who recently got his first job at the first grocery store he applied at.

I don't know where you guys are getting this idea that only young people get hired.

>> No.6979641

My favorite question when doing job interviews is: Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
What the hell do they want to hear? They can't possibly want to gear the truth?

>> No.6979642

I'd agree with jobs being a ton of luck. My first job I got through contacts at my university. My second job came from a company going bankrupt and my old CV traveling away to a new company who needed someone like me.

Both cases I practically got called and asked to do the job. All my failures were my own applications.

I'm up to two years worth of work experience, so closing in on the magical 3 year requirement they love putting on jobs.

>> No.6979643

>>6979595

That was one, yeah, but it was also upper-division Genomics / Eukaryotic Cell Bio that surely killed many a "future doctor".

Every time a dickhead gets rejected from med school, his normalfag-ist dreams of money and prestige dashed to bits, I jizz a little. When I suggest to them "well why don't you go to grad school, or get a suitable lab job?", it's always "hurrdurr I don't want to do those, I wannnna be a doctooooor :(!! " ... because, despite being ensconced in the biological sciences, they don't actually have their minds or hearts in it; there is a fundamental disconnect in their minds because they just see it as a stepping stone... they really just see their lives' worth as only money and prestige, rather than contributing to a noble cause profoundly bigger than themselves (science).

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>>6979589
F: You'll be saved by the platonic love of a fellow anon, who knows you're a little girl on the inside. You'll then live in poverty with anon, battling through the daily hell of reality, but happy with each others company.

Cheer up /jp/, you're fine the way you are.

>> No.6979646

>>6979641
>Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
In Gensokyo of course.

>> No.6979688

May as well use this thread to summarise my life. I took a gap year from school because my dad told me the degree I was going to do was worthless. In the end I failed to get in to what he told me to go for, and so now I'm waiting a year to go back to do English. A year ago I was a little anxious about leaving home but now I can't wait. My parents constantly remind me how boring my life is 'get a life', 'you're so boring', 'just get out there, get a girlfriend!', 'I worry about you holed up in your room all day, when I was your age I went out to parties every night!'. So here I am, I already missed the deadline to apply hurting my chances to get in, I'm hoping to sort everything out by the end of the month and go to a university in either Bradford or Teeside, I can't really decide, but I don't have to decide that now. What I really want to do is live in a tiny apartment and never leave it, filling my walls with posters and figures, and other shit. Right now my parents can and will burst in at any moment to lecture me about how pathetic I am. Oh well, at least I have you /jp/... Well not really since my dad set up an internet curfew at 11pm.

>> No.6979721

>>6979449
Your post inspired me to give history a shot at some undetermined point in the future.

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>>6979688
>internet curfew
Wow really? Sorry but that's fucking hilarious to me.

Also, I know (or I guess knew, hardly talk to him) someone who got a degree in English, and started out getting his teaching credential, but then within a year decided he didn't want to do that either and so now he just sits at home and plays video games all day. That is until he figures out a job to get, I ask him what does he even plan to do and he says "I dunno, I guess an office job or something"..

I mean, even if you're very learned in English or the Arts, there just isn't much those are good for besides basically saying the to employer "Look, at least I was patient enough to sit through 4 years of school and committed enough to get a degree", because in most cases I'm pretty sure that's the only brownie point an English degree will get you.

I could be wrong of course, but then again I'm not sure what else English majors can possibly even do with their degrees besides be a teacher. Also it doesn't take an English degree to be a writer, but I'm guessing it wouldn't hurt either, having made extensive studies of what makes for quality literature.

>> No.6979729

>>6979688
>What I really want to do is live in a tiny apartment and never leave it
This is kind of what I'd like too.
A job I enjoy, and enough money to pay for computer parts, internet, utilities, food, rent, vidya. You could do that on a pretty modest income. Living in contentment, knowing that you'll never need anything grandiose to occupy yourself, that you'll never have kids sucking away your time and energy, and that you've already reached what most people drift through their whole lives trying to find.

>> No.6979748

This NEET thread isn't that bad. Why?

>> No.6979751

Too late for what, OP?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_bloomer

Okay, so you're not some young prodigy, nor some kid like Justin Bieber who got lucky.

You're still alive, aren't you?

You've got a life, and you can live it. You can do something. So you're not the next Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, et. al. Alright, then. So what are you?

No one can say whether or not your life was worthless until you're dead. Until then, it's up to you to make sure it's not.

>> No.6979752

>>6979748
The normals are still at work or school.

>> No.6979755

>>6979688
I wonder why he seems to think an office job would be better than teaching. At least while teaching you don't really have to deal with working more than 40 hours a week unless you purposely make it hard on yourself, and you get tons of days off. You also don't constantly have people breathing down your neck like all corporate environments do.

It's a good job if you can learn how to deal with kids.

>> No.6979759

>>6979748

It isn't focused on Gensokyo portals or meet ups or other material that people that it seems some people do and others don't take seriously. It gets pretty fucking annoying seeing people make hideously fucking lame posts and wondering if they're being serious, or trolling, or perhaps thinking that they're playing along in some kind of meta-/jp/-meme-like game.

>> No.6979760

>>6979723
Yeah, I know English is a bad degree, I plan to use it to teach English in Europe (or best case scenario the JET, not going to lie and hide the fact that that would be just plain awesome), and then after I become bilingual move to America. The internet curfew is retarded, I agree, it makes me feel like a 10 year old kid, and thus makes me feel inadequate. It's in place due to the fact that I haven't got a job yet (despite the fact I give all my unemployment benefits to my dad to spend on beer, which will happen to my income if I got a job, thus no incentive).

>>6979729
Perfect life, right? If everything goes to shit I want to get diagnosed with autism and live the eternal NEET life like some of the people here do. In the UK it shouldn't be too hard.

>> No.6979765

>>6979752

Is that why there is only one tripfag in the whole thread?

>> No.6979770

>>6979760
You have no job but you do get unemployment benefits? I really think you should really tell your parents to fuck off, considering you give that money to them.

>> No.6979780

The ideal job would be working in a manga or comic shop, every now and then a customer comes in, but otherwise you just read the manga and browse /jp/ on your laptop. That's the same as what I do now, except I'd get paid for it.

>>6979688
Gotta hate normals for pushing their lifestyle onto you. It's like they can't fathom that I'm actually happy being left alone.
>NO ANON YOU SHOULD COME OUT AND PARTY!
>ANON DON'T YOU FEEL UNHAPPY ALONE ALL DAY!?
Fuck normals, seriously. They sicken me. How can they believe they are free when they are such a surging hivemind?

>> No.6979786

>>6979765

tripfriends confirmed for normal tier

>> No.6979788

>>6979729
>enough money to pay for computer parts, internet, utilities, food, rent, vidya.
Ignoring the first part of that sentence, this is all I basically want. Maybe a closet of girls' clothes and a violin too.

Pity there's just no conceivable way for me to get that, so what is a simple fantasy for other rich people is nothing but a pipedream for me.

>> No.6979792

>>6979770
I only get £50 a week, that's not enough to support myself on my own, unfortunately. They're starting to think that I don't apply to jobs too, since I've been on it for about 7 months. In actuality, I have but I get rejected every time due to being anti social. I have great perception and can tell when people are faking emotions (most of the time), but I'm sceptical of my own emotions, and probably come off and very ingenuine. If any anon wants someone to cook and clean for them, I'd love to come and live with you.

>> No.6979805

Using money that is for school for everyday living. Had 75 grand set aside for school, plus whatever money I get from stocking toys. I'm set for a tad bit longer.

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>>6979459
>Sadly, that 'something' doesn't exist for everyone.
Very true. Personally I'm a jack of all trades when it comes to interests, there are hundreds of fields I can find interesting, but nothing has made me instantly realize that it's something I want to dedicate the rest of my life to. So what I ended up doing was try to find the one area that I have higher interest in than others, that I would have an easier time working with than the others, and which actually has some job opportunities. Ended up at electrical engineering, and it's my intention to start studying the fall semester, but I'm very nervous that I've underestimated how high interest you must have in it, and realize I don't want to do it at all, and end up dropping out and becoming a NEET with no future again.

>> No.6979828

I think if I wasn't for my family, I could be pretty happy. Oh how disappointed they must be.

>> No.6979853

>>6979786

and then there's Sudo.

>> No.6979855

>>6979828
I feel the same way. I sorely hate the expectations they have of me. I feel that if I didn't have to aim so high to please them in life, I would have been far better off, since I wouldn't have had to deal with that. If I ever manage to be in a position to have a child, I'll make sure it knows I'll love it no matter how well it does on an exam, and never harm it. I might end up with worse kids than my parents, but I'd rather my kids were failures than depressed.

>> No.6979877

fuck i just realized that i ll 23 this year....
wtf happened...

>> No.6979878

>>6979825
I'm in an engineering program, NOBODY gives a shit about the actual subject they are just chasing the money. At the very worst you'll be in the same position.

>> No.6979885

It's not really worth it. College > Accounting Degree > CPA > Nice Job with around 100k salary.

You'd think that's nice, right? But no, I can't even buy myself a decent house. Fuck California. 200k is the new 100k.

>> No.6979886

>>6979828
>>6979855

I know that feel.

>> No.6979887

>>6979855
I think my own life is evidence that your child will turn really lazy if you give it absolutely no incentive to work hard on anything and teach it that you can just float through life easily with minimal effort.

I think the key here is that a good parent teaches their child to work hard for his own sake, not for the sake of his parents. The former will ideally create a child that can work hard and be happy at the same time, while the latter will create a messed up child who can just solemnly work for some meaningless duty imposed on it, just like those overworked Japanese salarymen who end up jumping in front of a train despite the "bright future" ahead of them.

>> No.6979890

>>6979878
I hear that's a pretty bad position to be in, since it's not a good field to get into if you just want the money.

>> No.6979900

>>6979887
Don't overestimate the effect parents have on their child. Looking at my own life, the people that always had the least effect on any decision I made were my parents.

I don't think upbringing is to blame for most NEETs and hikkys, rather mental problems such as depression seem to be the primary cause.

>> No.6979903

>>6979890

This is 100% true just saying it doesn't stop a lot of people.

>> No.6979910

>>6979887
Same with me. My parents have no expectations of me and don't give a shit if I work or not, and because of that here I am.

>> No.6979920

>>6979900

Well, it honestly depends. I had a pretty strict upbringing, having my mom smack my ass and both parents yell at me when I was younger, getting me to study during summer vacation and pushed me into situations I hated because it would make be a better person, but in the end all it did was make me not care about them and descend into failure. They tell me to be open but then they just tell me to man up and do what I have to do so I can't really tell them anything. I don't really blame them considering it was my fault for the current situation I'm in, but I don't go to them for anything because of it.

>> No.6979943

>>6979900
You should also not underestimate how big your parents influence can be (even though it's not that obvious most of the time).

I would probably have killed myself already if it wasn't for the whole suicide/hell thing that my super religious family punched in me. Even though I know it's all bullshit, I can't get rid of the thought that if I off myself that I'm going straight to hell. Jesus saves, really.

>> No.6979958

>>6979900
I was incredibly abused by my parents and was never allowed to have any friends. My inherent trust issues, and utter lack of social skills would keep me this way even if I overcame my depression.

I'm mostly to blame, but my parents are NOT faultless. Everyone's circumstances are different, don't try to make blanket statements.

>> No.6979984

>>6979920
>>6979943
>>6979958
I didn't mean to say upbringing has no influence at all, especially if your parents are the abusive or meddlesome types. All I was trying to say is that upbringing does not have guaranteed results, a truckload of factors come into play, most outside of parents their control.

Personally, I always found it insulting whenever my parents take credit or blame for my successes and failures.

>> No.6980009

>>6979984
>upbringing does not have guaranteed results
I blame general society for taking on most of the task of raising children and doing a really fucking horrible job at it. Seriously, it's a miracle some people grow up to be somewhat tolerable when you consider the bullshit they're fed as soon as they leave their crib.

>> No.6980130

>>general society for taking on most of the task of raising children
WTF? It's the parents that have all the responsibility in today's society. It's just that general society tells kids that their parents are wrong and not to listen to them.

>> No.6980242

>>6979792

I take it you're >>6979688? If you can hold on a few years and can be bothered to move down south (Southampton area) you could live with me (provided I get my own apartment).

Seriously, if I ever have to go into shared accommodation, one thing I'd hate is to be shacked up with a normal. Even if you're the most antisocial parasitic NEET that ever walked the earth, I'd try my hand at tolerating it simply because then I'd have someone I could relate to in ways other than education/employment choices.

>> No.6980270

>>6979688
>Teeside

Then you'll be with me anon!
Well, provided I don't drop out. I'm having serious issues with motivation lately, even if I pass the course, I don't want a job.

>> No.6980339

its never to late to claim welfare
i get 800 euros a month for being autistic
its all my parents fault

>> No.6980344

+o

>> No.6980364
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6980364

>>6979301
If Edgar Spikes can do it, you can do it. Edgar spikes believes in you.

>> No.6980394

>>6979459
>or something I can't learn because I'm lazy

>> No.6980422

>>6980364

Fucking Edgar Spikes, making us look bad

>> No.6980655

>>6980364
>>6980422
/jp/ - Even an 88 year old black man is better than us

>> No.6981451

>>6979485
Well, talk is cheap. Hopefully I will be able to follow through.

Ganbaritai.

>> No.6981597

>>6979943
Made me chuckle.

>> No.6981608
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6981608

What's the easiest way to live off the government in America?

Obesity? Autism? Cripple?

>> No.6981613

>>6981608
adopt a kid

>> No.6981658

>>6981608
git yo woman pregnet

>> No.6981672

This thread awakened me to the horrible possibility that I'll still be living with my mother when I'm 29. About to turn 21 so I'm still small time here, but things are only getting worse anyway. I haven't been outside in so long I'm starting to develop severe anxiety issues about talking to strangers or being in social situations.

I don't want a wife, I don't want children or a huge house. I don't want to spend my whole life working to afford a roof to sleep under in order to rest for work the next day until I'm too old to enjoy life anymore.

I honestly feel I'd be happier in simpler times. If we didn't know what the internet was, what video games were etc we wouldn't miss them, yet we'd be able to be free and to live a simple life as we wished.

>> No.6981722
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6981722

If you've been several years without a job, it's extremely difficult to get started again. Your best chance would be to get a job through connections or a referral, or build a skill up to the point where you can find your own work.

Unfortunately, the former isn't very viable if you have absolutely zero social skills and the latter requires a lot of research and independent effort.

It'd still be possible to find a regular job if you can make yourself look and act relatively normal, just very difficult.

>> No.6981742

I'm 19. No school or job for the last two years. I've been slowly getting into shape and eating better to escape this life. I'm gonna backpack my way across the US and find some place to belong or find a niche. If it doesn't work, at least it'll be fun to be alone on the road. I've been making small journeys to get ready, in a year or two I will have enough funds to get started on the big one. I know I really need to find job though in order to fund this, so that's where the trouble is...

>> No.6981748

> turning 29
So move your ass a little. You need some motivation? How about this :
- 1) Find a job ! /don't mind the 'low' jobs, just try to avoid the ones were you'll have to work with/near too much people so it won't be bad.
- 2) Get a little educated by 1) /When you'll look for another job you'll be able to tell at least "experience? oh i've already worked yeah"
- 3) MONEY /With that you can easily improved your lazy lifestyle and somewhat pleased your 2D waifu
- 4) ???
- 5) PROFIT

..... oh and yeah, i'm 34, got both a job and degrees, but STILL browsing /jp/ since severals years now.
I just cannot leave this place anymore.

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6981763

>>6981742

>> No.6981764

Funny you chose that pic, OP

35 here, not "neet" or "a failure" or whatever, either. But I'm considering doing a robitussin trip this weekend, since it's been forever since I did that and it gets better the longer you wait inbetween trips. Been over a decade, so this ought to be quite the experience if I decide to go through with it.

>> No.6981767

I'm 24 with no job, no education beyond age 14, and am on disability welfare.

I don't care.

It's so easy to get in Australia, it's laughable. Why would I work when I can enjoy life like this? Hahaha, if only my government were more strict, it might actually change things. That probably isn't happening though, because you know. Australia.

>> No.6981773

>>6981767
you can enjoy dodging the kangaroo cops or whatever for your internets, though

>> No.6981777

>>6981773

What? No, I pay for my ADSL connection. I earn.. uhh.. I mean, "get" 210 AUD a week for doing absolutely nothing. 120 a week to flat with these 2 other guys, 20 for food, rest is just play money.

>> No.6981780

You guys are fucking pathetic. Move your fat asses and stop sucking on your mom's breast.

>> No.6981782

>>6981780
Well, if you say so.

>> No.6981901

>>6981767
Aussie here, how do I get on that?

>> No.6981998

>>6981780
why? it's more comfortable this way.

>> No.6982297

>>6979887
>jumping in front of a train despite the "bright future" ahead of them.
>in front of a train
>bright
I feel bad for this....

>> No.6982328

OP some advice. Start your own business.
That's what I'm doing. If you're smart and
resourceful enough, you could start a
business with low upstart costs. I just
started mine and it's costing me $140.
Sorry I won't tell you the nature of my
business because I don't want anyone in
my area stealing my market.

>> No.6982337

>>6982297
> the "bright future" ahead of them.

That really means "You'll probably have your job next year."

>> No.6982365

I'm kind of in high spirits today...
I ordered some chinese food for dinner and together with it i got a chinese fortune cookie.
And can you guys guess what i got?
"Everything is gonna be ok"
I know these are just superstitions but...
For a second it sounded so real
And for someone like me who is already at the bottom of the well it sounded really comforting

>> No.6982418

>>6982365

Ideas become things my dear anon friend... I know it sound like one of those things that people tell to others just to pity them, but its true, if you can imagine it, picture it, with the confidence as if it was already yours... then it will come true

Good luck to you

>> No.6982432

I wish companies would give you a pratical test of your ability or perhaps a writen test. I would even be fine if they gave us weapons and told the survivor would get the job. But no, we get a fifteen minute interview, thus ensuring my eternal unemployment.

>> No.6982617

>>6980364
>No success stories from Mexico
This is not motivating, Cisco!

>> No.6982799

>>6982432

>Implying your weak, malnourished body wouldn't lose in a battle

Get over yourself you autistic dumbass, 15-minute interviews are easy as shit.

>> No.6982827

>>6982432
I got a job a while back after being a neet for a long time. I was sure when I finished the interview that I didn't get the job, because I was totally nervous as fuck while talking, and I felt like I was unable to express any of the things I wanted to say. But they gave me the job anyway.

Now I'm like a team leader, because people around me keep quitting or resigning because they suck at their jobs. I realize that the company I got hired at has a tendency to hire incapable people (which is probably why they hired me despite my obvious autism), but I'm too afraid to quit, go back to being a neet, and start begging my parents for rent money again.

>> No.6983005

>>6982365
Last time I got "Your work isn't done, blame the computer"

Those cookies are onto something.

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