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I hope everyone goes for the only good heroine when AT3 is released here.

Luca is a ok character.

>AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
You know, this torrent is kinda dead (0 seeds from this end). You should find another one.

Those character designs are way too busy

>>6954708
Honestly, Ar Tonelico has always had a very busy vibe to it. Especially the music.

I guess it makes a great contrast in that despite all this life, they are essentially living in the last moments of a dead world.

I just started playing this. You should have a conversation as soon as you get it right? It said something about keeping your conversations and dive levels near to each other, but I can't even dive yet.

>>6954726
Which game?

AT2>AT1>AT3

>>6954689
but every heroines are good

>>6954730
AT1

I thought PCSX was broken because I couldn't get out of the Tenba lab. Then I remembered I had a jump button.

>>6954766

You'll be able to dive soon then. I'm not sure what >>about keeping your conversations and dive levels near to each other
means, there's really not much to worry about

>>6954773
It's just the tutorials being misleading and retarded then

Guess that's par for the course

Aside from AT this is also a GUST thread right? Anybody have links to AI/MK lossless OST? What I can find are only lousy mp3s

>>6954735
You are kidding right? AT3 is by far the best, with AT2 in a distant second, and AT1 barely even comparable.

>>6954706

I've been seeding that torrent for about a year now. I had to shut my seedbox down last week as I needed the server for something else but I'll be putting it back up tomorrow. The torrents in the OP are really the only reliable ones, kept alive by myself and a couple of other people.

>>6954971
AT1 may not be all that great, but it holds a special place in my heart. The setting, the atmosphere, the music, it all just fitted together for me. I jusy can't forget my first.

>>6955199

Yeah, AT1 may have been pretty mediocre in terms of gameplay but if you revisit it after playing 2 and 3 you suddenly realize how much thought they put into the original game's story and setting. There are a lot of references and chunks of dialog in 1 and 2 that can only really be understood after completing the full series (and reading the toukouspheres, even).

>>6954689

Of course, image related.

>>6955185

Thank you as always, you are a gentleman and a scholar. I just wish my connection would allow more than 10-15kb/s upload before shitting itself otherwise I'd gladly help.

>>6955199

I loved AT1 too, probably because I played it first and enjoyed it so very much. AT2 added more stuff and it was a lot better in that regard but I still enjoyed AT1 more. I just hope AT3 is enjoyable, I'm really looking forward to it but the heavy localisation from what I've seen might put me off a little..

Ar Tonelico 2 new guy here, what Phase do Level 5 Cosmospheres become available for all three Reyvateils?

Do I need to play AT1 and 2 before playing AT3?
I don't have a PS2, and my PC isn't strong enough for emulation, but AT3 looks darn interesting.

>>6957050

Probably not (NISA renamed the game to Qoga instead of 3 for this reason, pretty much). But I think Qoga would have a stronger impact on you if you did. You still got plenty of time to clear the first two games before Qoga comes out, if you want to play them.

Just want to thank you guys, you all are a part of the reason why I got into this series.

>>6957050

Nope, just like you don't need to play AT1 to play AT2. It's a different story (kind of) with different characters but with many recurring themes so you might not understand what's going on for parts of the game but you could still certainly enjoy it without playing any of the previous ones. You really should, they're surprisingly good.

I'm playing Atelier Iris 1 right now and its extremely mediocre. I almost quit several times but I figure I'm over half way through the game. The story isn't even that good. The only thing keeping me going is the cat girl.

>>6958063

AI 1 is pretty bad but I enjoyed AI 2 a lot. I'd say just drop it and move on to the sequel.

The word "Qoga" is so unappealing to the eye that any jealousy I may have felt due to never ever being able to play that game ever has completely disappeared!
Thanks, NISA.

>>6958614
It's a Hymmnos word.

>>6958557
I would love to drop it, but I already invested 18 hours into it. If there is an ending video out there somewhere I would drop it and move to 2.

>>6958696

If you've put 18 hours into it then you might as well finish the game, it's only 25ish hours long.

I love that music that played when you fought Kanade in Plasma bell and not to forget, all the awesome one hit kill attacks she was doing. Had a baww moment going on too when I thought you were going to have to kill her after Meimei told you to tell her about things

Anyway, what's that song called and does it have a translation

Does AT3 even have song magic anymore? And will you be able to see it charge and change forms on the battlefield?

>>6959980
Yes. No.
Watch a video of a boss fight or something.

>>6959979

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FROcXVRFHpA

Tsugau Inochi no Koe (Dual Voices of Life) AE, says the title of this vid.

It's also known as Voices of Paired Lives.

>>6959988
>No.

OH MY GOD WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS

What did AT3 get on Famitsu? I won't preorder it unless it's at least a 35/40.

>>6960002
Thanks. No one translated this song like the other exec_ ones?

>>6960006

No prob. Though it doesn't look like anybody has posted translated lyrics.

>>6960009
Haha, it's surprising that someone remembered what I was talking about considering it's just a small portion of the game

>>6960012

Yah, I remembered because I just beat Ar Tonelico 1 sometime last month. So it's still fresh in my memory. I just started on Ar Tonelico 2 a few days ago, so far Luca doesn't seem so bad despite what everyone keeps saying about her. Overly intimidated by Cloche, but fine. Then again, she only joined the party about less than an hour ago in-game time.

Also:

>>6959988
>Song Magic doesn't change forms

Nigga you best be trolling, that was one of the things I liked about the first two games, seeing those Songs start out as cute chibis and eventually turning into huge angry mutha--

I played AT2 when I was a hiki and had so much fun with it. I played it almost religiously for nearly a month. I would sit in front of the TV with bags of fast food and stay there for hours, giggling like a little girl during the cosmospheres and bedtime conversations, and then I'd go to bed at 6 am and pretend that Jakuri was there with me
I wish I had a PS3 so I could play the sequel

>>6960026
Well they do but it's not a big part. You'll see them when the song magic is casted.

>>6960005
If memory serves, it got a 28.

Just beat Ar Tonelico 1. Holy shit, talk about one big adventure. Very few JRPGs has manage to give me this feeling. I even forgot what they were. The multiple NOT SO FAST BUCKO moments, that hymm when Lyner apologized to Mir, the build up to exec_phastasmagoria. Wow.

So I'm going to start on AT2 now instead of waiting for the fan translation. Is the localization really worse than AT1's?

>>6960026
>Songs start out as cute chibis and eventually turning into huge angry mutha--

Yeah, gonna miss that too. I like Hama's one, where she was hanging onto the ocarina and then looked as though she was struggling to blow more air in

>>6960167
It doesn't hinder you from enjoying the game, it's just sloppy. Just to make an example, Croix is very polite in the original, while the English lines have him a lot more on the "direct" side.

>>6960174
Does Ar Tonelico 1 do that too?
I want to enjoy it even more now that I know what kind of person Mir is after playing the first game

>>6960167
That's because the game is first and foremost a Galge, the the other stuff comes second.
People expectng a so called "JRPG" are almost always suprised.

>>6960187
Just remembered Okami and Dragon Quest 8 pulled something off like this. Okami's was great especially when the time travel part came up but DQ8's was just a bore because of the characters

>>6960174

Though the translation was indeed pretty sloppy, I really liked the changes they made to Croix's tone in the English version. It's nice to see a mature male protagonist that doesn't put up with stupid bullshit for once.

>>6960360
That's why I said it doesn't stop you from enjoying the game. personally I was just bothered a bit because knowing what Croix says while reading some of the "translations" was weird.

>>6960360
Just checked the wiki
>such as changing the gender of Jean Ishikawa in Cloche's cosmosphere from female to male, or the fate of Croix's parents, telling them Leyka killed them when actually they just perished in an IPD outbreak that didn't have relation to Leyka. In addition, there are various grammatical errors throughout the game.

y they do dis. Was anything changed for the first game too?

>>6960380
>knowing what Croix says while reading some of the "translations" was weird.

Oh, that happened in AT1 with some of Lyner's lines too

>>6960180
Mir is a good girl.

>>6960380
>>6960388

Yeah, Lyner isn't quite as much of a fucking retard as the English translation makes him out to be.

>>6960390
I get this "Pirates of the Carribean" vibe from this. I'm not talking about the pirates and undead but the whole deal with how the story got more interesting from the second movie onwards and in relation to ar tonelico, it's like the first game was just to set up the character of Mir and the second game is where the true tale begins

>>6960395
Why is AT2 the only one which got the retranslation treatment?

>>6960399

AT1 wasn't near as blatant. The big problem with AT2's translation is that the item descriptions basically make zero sense. Nearly every item in the game has this problem.

>>6960404
Fuuuuuck. I liked reading the item descriptions in the first game =/. so I guess I'll play through it now then play the translation when it's out? Is it good enough to warrant a second playthrough without getting tired of it?

Oh yeah, might as well ask this too. Is that a dialogue script on what each character say when you're making all the items? I used to make a save and reload a file before I grathmeld certain items so I can read all their dialogue but it was driving me crazy

>>6960009
I think I saw a translation somewhere, but I can't find it. I'll post my own sloppy one. I'm not sure what the "se~ya" interspersed in the song are, I suspect it's an exclamation or something.

Fukaki yumeji utsuroi
(The deep dream fades)
Inochi umareshi toki tsuyoku hikari hanatsu hoshi wa utai
(When life is born, the stars that shine with a strong light sing)
Jidai sasagerareshi kora wa hito no naseru waza wo koete
The children sacrificed to the times surpass that which is possible to man
Yami wo sake futari no (tsugaeshi) koe
Tear through the darkness, (our/your/their) two (conjoined) voices

>>6960407
You won't have this problem because every character can craft items only unique to them. There is no grathmelding but you will cook, do alchemy and create weapons etc. and each character has their own items.

>>6960407

It's worth multiple playthroughs, anyway, especially if you plan on playing AT3.

The dialogue during item creation isn't too bad, but the finished item descriptions are a little wonky. Basically, the descriptions are supposed to be Croix's personal thoughts on the item but it didn't get conveyed very well in a lot of them.

I can't wait till March comes and we get Shitframe.

>>6960416
Cool, thanks
I like this song a lot

>>6960418
I wish they could have streamlined this a little better because it became a pain in the ass later in the game because you needed to pretty much be on top of every shop keeper to fuse anything at all.

I've been around the thread earlier,i was going to start AT1 then AT2.

Is AT1 really that bad?
Will i be missing out if i skipped it.

>>6960585

AT1 isn't bad in itself, but once you move on to 2 and (probably) 3, you'll think it's pretty bad in comparison.

>>6960585

No, it's not that bad. You'll be missing out on Mir's backstory if you skip it, and she is easily the most interesting character of the series.

>>6960585
I only played 1 so far. In the beginning it was pretty bland, but after having beaten it, it actually gives you the feeling that the sequels wouldn't be able to top the characters and story in this

>>6960592
>>6960590
>>6960610

Thank you very much good sir's.If that's the case,i won't be skipping it.

>>6960610

You'll be pleasantly surprised when you play 2 and 3, then. AT1 is great but I don't think you'll find many people that would argue that 2 and 3 aren't better in pretty much every way.

I have Ar Tonelico 2, but i hear that there is a glitch at the end of the game. Is there a way to get passed it?

>>6960630
I just don't want to start playing the game and not be able to finish it..

>>6960630
Use action replay, exploit some bug or just grab the patched version of the iso.

>>6960630
>>6960634
There is a fix for this glitch, don't worry. It's in the pack in the OP.

>>6960630

Just read the OP

>>6960645
but i bought it before i knew about it.., what kind of bug is it? can i apply it to my ps2 disk?

>>6960662

What version do you have? I don't think it affects the PAL version if you happen to have that one.

Regardless, all you have to do is beat the boss that the bug occurs on within 3 turns. That's actually really easy to do, so I wouldn't worry about it.

>>6960673
oh alright, which boss is it?

>>6960683

Raki. You'll have Replekia by that time so you can just roast her quickly.

I came across this.
http://www.mediafire.com/?qacaog08270nbb5

I don't know what it is, other than being a short video, but it seems related to AT3 so I'm just going to leave it here.

Here's a video showing someone beating her within 3 turns: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcyewzGJ8ek . This guy's characters aren't overleveled or anything, and he's pretty terrible at blocking, so it's actually really lenient.

>>6960167
I didn't like EXEC_RIG=VEDA/. on its own but I thought the"sasage ya" part really fit into the whole "WE FINALLY DID IT!" thing when Mir was slumped on the ground

>>6960726
>I didn't like EXEC_RIG=VEDA/. on its own
how can you listen to the songs before hearing them in game? You're ruining half of their charm.

>>6960726
Hah, spoke too soon. It gets good at 2:25 though I think they cut out that part from the game

So is Ar Tonelico more of a visual novel then a rpg?

>>6960736
Ah, fuck. Is it really that bad? =/
Well, the first time I heard exec_paja misya ingame was pretty fucking awesome. That's the song that changed my opinion of the game early on but it doesn't seem that bad listening to the ending song...

Gah, I wonder what it's like to listen to exec_phastamagoria for the first time ingame. I actually listened to it before getting to the end

>>6960726
oh thanks, I was just gonna just grind until i over level the boss anyway.

>>6960749
My bad, I mean >>6960703

>>6960746
Well, it's like spoilering yourself a plot point or something, sure you can still think it's awesome, but you knew it was coming sooner or later, it totally lacks the powerful impact hearing them for the first time is supposed to have.

>>6960757
Gah!
I already spoiled exec_silphia or however you spell it for myself now. I'm nto going to check it and I'm deleting it from my mp3 player. Gonna get to the point ingame before going back to listening =/

Also....I already saw the english translation and listened to xaaacli numerous times now. God, I wish i can erase my memories

I can only speak for myself here, but listening to the music didn't really spoil anything for me. Infact I can say that it improved my experience. When I started with the games, I was like "Man, I really wanna know when they'll sing X and why!"

To be totally honest, if it wasn't for the music, I would've never played the games to begin with.

>>6960770
To me it was kinda the opposite, I knew the music was supposed to be good, but I don't regret resisting until after having cleared the game.
The overwhelming surprise effect was totally worth it, I mean, when I heard things like Misha, Aurica and Shurelia's triplet at the beginning of Phantasmagoria or Mir who starts singing a really sweet and calming tune, without really knowing they were coming really made me almost jizz in my pants.

what is the best settings and plugins on pcsx2 for AT2?

I already have a modded ps2, but the power supply is busted and I don't feel like replacing it for one game.

>>6960800
Depends too much on your system and build, tinker with it a bit and find what's better for you.

.>>6960806
I have a decent pc, but what I meant was how to get rid of as many glitches as possible (like the world map is screwed up on the bottom half, some of the sprites have random black lines)

>>6960850
To get rid of the black lines set the internal res to 640x448.

>>6960785
i know what you mean , i haven't touched AT3 soundtrack yet ...
just to get on my knees when i finally hear them in game.

>AT visual book being scanned (at a low pace, don't hold your breath)
http://rapidshare.com/files/436804641/tonelico_pack2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437185283/tonelico_pack3_Low.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437190766/tonelico_pack3_Hi.rar

Just a quick word that those links will become unavailable sometime this week ...
Will post the full book scanned shortly after on /jp/ or on the AT thread that will exist at the time.

finally got a decent scanner manager ( windows seven's scanner manager sucked ... )

thank you for your patience and see you all later this week.

>>6960386
>reads halfway then quickly stops

Oh shit, AT2 spoilers, and I haven't gotten that far yet. Glad I didn't read the WHOLE thing, but still.

Also, I haven't met this Jean yet but is there a reason why they changed her gender? Will I have a hard time looking at them the same way seeing everyone call Jean "him" when she's originally female?

>>6960726

Oh wow. I thought the same thing when I got to that scene, like an "It's finally over..." victorious theme.

>>6961695

Jean is just one of her song magics. I never noticed any references to Jean as a male in the English version, myself. It's probably just a typo or two. She's pretty clearly female in her combat sprites.

Here's a quick screenshot of Jean, if you're curious.

>>6962279
>>6962218

Oh, I see. Thanks.

Oh, and I finally Dualstalled for the first time. Ohhh boy. I had no idea what I'm getting into. No I don't mean the fanservice, I'm talking about all the factors that causes an event to happen. According to the tutorial, whether an event happens or not and what event you see depends on the bath toy placed, the crystals placed (I think), the Reyvateils taking the bath... and the positions of all three. And there's like, what, 4, 5 different positions? So if I get one position wrong, or use the wrong combination of Reyvateils or crystals, I miss an event? Baloney. That's too "Guide Dang It" for me.

I did get one event during the tutorial: Luca thinking Cloche likes kids because of how friendly she is around Sasha, and Cloche telling Luca to be more frank instead of stumbling around. The message log stopped with "It looks like Luca wants to talk", but I can't tell if was talking about the event that just passed or not.

By the way, just making sure I'm seeing and reading the tutorial right: Say you place the "Growth" D-Crystal. Is it like A) Grants Luca bonus Max HP while it grants Cloche bonus Max MP (it does not increase Luca's magic points or Cloche's health points), or B) Both Luca's HP and MP increased due to Cloche being in the bath, and vice versa?

>>6962746
Duallstall is rather clunky IMHO because there is no guaranteed effects.

Things that I've found from personal experience:
Bath toys help. A lot. They more likely than not draw the girls in to look at it, which then means you can position the crystals so that they'll pick them up.

The events are similar to the rest convos. Certain story events will allow them to trigger while others will happen as a result of the duallstall like sticking in enough new crystals to prompt a level growth of x amount. You have to press the confirm button to play through the event.

Each grathnode crystal has a different effect for the reyvateils. For example, if Luca picked up that crystal, she'll gain max HP but if Cloche picks it up, she'll get max MP instead. A reyvateil must touch the crystal for the effects to take hold so if Luca only touched it, she'll get max HP but Cloche gets nothing. If none of them touched it, nothing happens.

bath powders are very helpful. They give a guaranteed bonus which is helpful when you're trying to min/max bonuses for your reyvateils.

Because there is no real set way to determine how the reyvateils will move in the bath, you can't really establish what kinda bonuses they'll get, so just hope and pray really... It's not like the game is overly difficult that you need to bother in any case.

Dat Dualstall music.

>>6962799
Of course all of this, while interesting, isn't terribly relevant to finishing the game since min-maxing is completely unnecessary. Further, if you're interested in seeing all the conversations, it's grounds for just getting the guide anyway. That said, set up I've found works well:

You have, usually, three Reyvatails: Two you're using and one you aren't. Place them in the corner like so:
1ooo
2oooT
3ooo
Where 1 and 2 are the RTs you use, o's are the crystals, and T is (optionally) a toy. Since they rarely run over each other, they're usually (>70%) forced over the crystals to their right and/or drawn that way by the toy. I usually got 3-5 bonuses on my two mains and 0-3 on the alternate.

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>>6962803
This one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99zOfEA8C4Y

>>6962799
>>6962820

Wow. I didn't realize Dualstalling was that... uh... involved. Complicated? Not sure what word to use here.

The only thing I hope for is that I don't end up underleveling my Reyvateils due to unpredictability, since having low HP means they'd die easily (guarding against multi-hit attacks are still tricky for me at the moment, especially when they attack BOTH vanguards). Though I still want some challenge in the game. I'll probably try to avoid leveling the Reyvateils above Croix's, at least during the first playthrough.

>>6960085
Oh, that's very disappointing. Well, I guess I'll wait for more news about it.

>>6960770
I started playing Ar Tonelico after listening to the second game's soundtrack. Didn't know about the hymmnos CDs then but I remembered liking the main theme a lot and tried out Ar Tonelico the next day

Are there any piano sheets or even guitar tabs for the songs in the series? I want to pretend I'm doing song magic....

>>6962849
What is this? I don't even...

>>6962859

Reyvateil leveling isn't unpredictable at all, only the bonuses from moving over the crystals. Whenever a new crystal is placed in the bath, all of the reyvateils will gain levels (depending on the level of the crystal) whether they move over it or not.

>>6963521

Oh, is that so? Well then I feel a little better.

Still, making event availability unpredictable is so... not good. If Ar Tonelico Qoga still has dualstalling I hope they improved it.

>>6960386
I have to say I was kinda confused when I used Jean in battle the first time...

Wasn't expecting a bikini nor it to fall off.

>>6960625
OH MY GOD I JUST GOT 2 HOURS INTO AT2 AND IT LOOKS GREAT

dat new interface
dem anime cutscenes that look like it's drawn by the guy who did persona 3's
dat cloche who turned out not to be the equivalent of aurica like I was expecting
dat likeable protagonist
dat new cosmosphere start and end screen
dat lalalala song when you met luca
dat high res world and town map
dat world map music (i thought it would be played for the intro or something though =/)

>>6962971
There can never be enough Hama.

>>6963742
>dat world map music
You will cum until you black out when you hear the v2 of it.

>>6963757

Too bad you can't date Mind Guardians even if it's pretend.

Wait, crazy question that I'm sure we'll never know the canon answer to. If the Diver and Mind Guardian were to say, get it on or something, would the Reyvateil know about it? And if so, I wonder what would happen if she did...

>>6962849

Good god, what the fuck did I just listen to.

>>6963763

v2? You mean the hearts aflutter songs? Both of them make me cum buckets.

>>6964089
This, in the later phases of the game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W3LSP-vCdU

>>6960418
Holy shit, the new way to grathmeld is indeed better. Each girl have their own tab now so I don't have to keep track of which item I've already made with which girl

>>6964060

I don't know that it would mean anything in particular. Mir knows who her mind guardian is, and it happens to be a real person, but she's likely a special case. She may have intentionally created him as her mind guardian, actually.

>>6964199
What do you think of this girl?

>>6964060
They probably won't know anything, even Croix smashing through various Cosmospheres did no visible harm. Maybe the change is in their subconscious mind.

>>6964344
Haven't gotten that far yet. I think I caught a glimpse of her in the beginning in that water tank or whatever

>>6964556
Do you like her? Want to play as her?

/jp/, I am starting ar Tonlinco 2, and I not sure which heroine to pick. Without major spoilers, would Luca be a good path if I enjoy quirky character interaction like the ones in Mana Khemia?

I know this sounds like a newfag, but help out a fellow anon will you /jp/?

>>6964596
> ar Tonlinco
what the fuck am I r(ry
Your safest bet is to go with Cloche because it flows better with the overall plot and is probably the canon one. That said, they aren't that far apart quality-wise, so just go with the heroine you like best out of the two, as their routes will focus on their personality and their stories.

>>6964600

I apologies regarding my poor spelling. Thank you for the advice though.

>>6964607
>>6964596
If you played AT 1 you will switch to Jakuri anyways once she joins

>>6964610

I guess that is part of my problem. I jumped into AT2 without playing AT1. Should I have?

>>6964612
No, you can still play it since AT1 characters don't play a big role. It's good to have played AT1 since you'll most likely not want to play it after experiencing 2 and 3.

>>6964612
You'll still switch to Jacqli since she is just too awesome.Atleast i did.

>>6964615

Interesting. Story wise, which one will I enjoy more?

>>6964617
Interesting. I will have to see.

>>6964624
>Story wise, which one will I enjoy more?
ATII is really the more developed game out of the two, ATI is pretty basic "average young man embarks on a journey to save the world" in that regard.
The thing is, it's the game that introduces you to the setting and all the concepts ATII takes for granted, so it's up to you.

>>6964624
They both have great stories but you will get a lot more out of AT2 if you have played 1. You won't get a lot of jokes especially involving Spica/Jakuri if you skip 1. While AT1 isn't really great anymore I'd say it's still a good thing to start with that one. You'll appreciate all the things AT2 improved too!

>>6964643
>>6964641

But is it a grind fest? So far AT2 is not for me, but I am barely past the introduction phase (yes, still getting that cake for Sasha).

>>6964648
What is it with games and cake?

>>6964648
I didn't grind at all and was still able to steamroll prettymuch everything by endgame. It's pretty easy. Actually, the game basically expects you to run from a fight out of three or so, defeating each enemy you'll come across normally will make you on the overpowered side of things
.

>>6964664

Thank you. Downloading. Any thing I should know if I am emulating it using a real PS2 disk? (in before pirate. ect.)

>>6964659

Well, it is a rice cake, which is not really a cake. It served well enough for a tutorial on cooking, though.

Not the guy who's been posting above, but can anyone else this >>6957022?

I want to know so that I'd know how much of the game I'd have to replay. Probably against better judgment I want to try to go pass Level 5 earlier in the game instead of waiting till next to the last boss to see three endings at once. That way I wouldn't have to wait too long to see the rest of the Cosmosphere and the talk topics and my chosen girl will have more spells. I can just cheat my way via max DP/money cheats after I beat the game the first time to make things go a little faster.

>>6964681
DP never is a concern. First, you only can get past level 5 with the girl you choose during phase 1. If you chose Cloche Luca will automatically throw you out after level 5. I think you can get to level 6+ during phase 2 with both Luca/Cloche, it will take up to phase 4 for Jakuri.

>>6964681
Phase 4 i guess.You can delay going into lvl 5 cosmosphere till the very end so you wont need to replay much but i finished only Jacqli's and Clouche's route and read everything else here
http://lparchive.org/Ar-Tonelico-II/

I just don't want to replay 35 hours just to finish Luca's route.

>>6964681
Just unlock Cosmosphere Lv5 and leave it that way regardless of your route. Third Reyvateil is strong enough, and Replekia just makes the game too easy.

Save before last boss and explore them Cosmospheres.

>>6964582
Uh, sure I guess
Why?

>>6964885
Dat Frelia. Too bad she isn't really all that important, even Shurelia had more screentime than her.

>>6964885
She has such a cute butt

I'm filled with lust and envy

Anyone know why i can't defend my reyvateils in the AT2 emulator? I tried pressing block just on time, early, and late, and the hit still goes through like I did nothing. AT1 emulator worked fine for me (although any map with green in it dropped the fps like a rock for some reason).

>>6965205

Probably a silly question but are you pressing the correct button? Square for the top character, X for the bottom.

>>6965293
Yes i am, im currently right at the start so theres only Cloche, but i cannot guard her at all.. I tried every single button, but nothing is working. Even tried changing my keyboard setup, but still no results

>>6965350
Do you actually see the guarding bar?
When an enemy attacks a green indicator will move across the bar and you have to press when the bar would reach the last part of the guard gauge to perfectly block the hit.

>>6965350
Can you see the limit thing supposed to show you when exactly to block on the bar?
I remember people saying they didn't see it in previous threads, are you missing it?

Okay, my game won't work normally.
It constantly has these bars on the screen, and I can't seem to remove them. I've tried multiple settings.
Does anyone have a solution?

>>6965519
That usually only happens on the opening video. If you want to see it so bad then go to youtube and look it up. It shouldn't appear after that video. If it does, try setting to native resolution?

>>6965519
Render it at a normal aspect ratio?

I gave up playing Atelier Iris 1 and went straight into 2. I have to say, that was the smartest thing I've done in a long time.

>>6965541
Okay, thanks.
But is it normal for every animated sequence to have these bars?

Do AT2 and AT3 have random encounters.
Because, God, I really can't stand those.

>>6965909

Yes, they do. You can use items to prevent the encounters though or you can fully deplete the bar on the side of the screen so you encounter no more monsters in the area for the rest of the time that you're in it.

>>6965884
No, the bars come from playing with a bad internal res/wrong aspect ratio.

>>6962218
>>6961695 here

Oh wow, I finally met Jean in Cloche's Cosmosphere Level 2. They even gave Jean a masculine voice. Whoever was the voice director and translator really didn't pay attention to the script... or the battle sprite.

>>6966673
IIRC, there were many separate translators, which led to the inconsistencies that appear.

>>6966784

Huh. Then what about "Metafalica" and "Metafalss"? Are they two separate things or did the translation actually keep switching back and forth between spellings?

>>6966898
They're two separate things.

>>6966898

Metafalss is the area where Ar Tonelico 2 takes place (Sol Ciel is AT1 and Sol Cluster is AT3.) Metafalica is the ideal land or utopia that everyone is wishing for and attempting to create. Two different things.

>>6966979
>>6967020

All right then. Thank you.

Oh wow, the whole "choose a route" thing is in a more complicated situation than in the first game. It's really familiar though, like in fushigi yuugi.

Anyway went with Cloche since Luca seems to be fine with them
Alfa always seem like an intimidating character so that scene with the lollipop gun was really shocking

AT2 newguy here.

Just passed Level 2 Cosmospheres for both Cloche and Luca. Cosmospheres seems harder this time around. You don't get as much DP as you did in the first game, and there's more choices that affect how much DP you spend and whether you continue or get kicked out (in the first game it was mostly linear, there's only a few moments I can think of where you can mess up and get kicked out; the one in Aurica's with that dragon caught me off-guard). Nice of them to add challenge, but I think I may find myself abusing the save state and/or reading a guide.

Story-wise I'm passed Croix giving Cloche the life-extending agent. Too bad it wasn't voiced, it would have been funnier. Two new vanguards have joined as well.

Which leads me to this question: Has anyone had a hard time choosing which two vanguards to use? I do. In the first game, the vanguards had a more noticable difference in stats and they had different moves with varying usefulness. But in this game, maybe it's because I'm still early in the game, but there seems to be little difference between the vanguards. And from the looks of it, non-combatants still gain full exp after a battle -- I know Leglius did, in fact he gained a bit more, probably due to being a couple levels behind. So I may end up just using vanguards based on looks and personality, i.e. Croix and Cocona or Amarie. What about you guys?

No, with the blocking system negates pretty much all damage assuming you are reasonably good at the timing, I think Amarie is the only one with extra skills apart from just attacking with 3 variations.

>>6968640
Just choose the vanguards that synchronize best with the RTs. The stats are notably different on higher levels, but even the weakest character can still be used as tank.

Btw, less DP than in AT1? What are you doing? I'm literally drowning in unused DPs... make sure you get good guard scores and get the burst rates high.

>>6968640
You're not playing the undub? That's a shame. I've actually played all three versions (Japanese, NA bastardization & NA Undub) and there's quite a lot of voices missing from the official version.

After the first couple cosmosphere levels you ought to be well off on, if not rolling in Dive Points. Especially if you feel the need to grind at any point. However, it's not much of a problem if you don't progress that quickly since you'll only go past level 5 for one of the heroines.

Statistically, Cocona is the weakest of the vanguards. She also doesn't get better weapons very often compared to the other vanguards. Amarie's psycho technique is kinda useless. I guess Leglius is fairly useful but his character design is so silly I never used him unless I had to. Seriously, grossly oversized armor and razor boomerang shields?

In the end, I always went with Croix, because he's a solid attacker, and Cocona, because that hair down sprite. Also, her EX attack looks pretty damn cool. It's also nice because the vanguard-reyvateil pairings work out pretty well with Croix with Luca and Cocona with Cloche.

>>6968640
It's not hard, since Croix is overpowered and Cocona is too good to leave her out.

Everytime something attacks Cocona I make sure the enemy gets a Maximum Penetration.

>>6968672
>>6968690

Yeah, I have Cocona guard Cloche and Croix guard Luca, they both got gold (Good) sync. This may possibly be my main party setup, at least until the Third Reyvateil joins.

Also I still haven't perfected guarding yet, especially with getting Perfects due to how risky it is, so I guess I'm not swimming in an ocean of DP just yet.

>>6968700

I'm playing the NA version because, well, I like playing my JRPGs with the dub if I can help it. Partly because it's a language I understand, partly because english voices' line delivery can make a significant difference in how funny/cool a line is. I don't think Dat Scene in Ar Tonelico 1 would be half as funny if it was just japanese voices. Lyner and Aurica's english VA really made the scene for me.

Although I do agree the voiced scenes are ridiculously fewer compared to the first game. Wonder what happened there.


And yeah, something about Leglius' design turns me off a bit. Not to mention he's kind of boring, although it could be because of his voice acting.

Already mentioned the Croix and Cocona thing, but nice to see others think similarly.

>>6968716

I'd want Cocona to maximum penetrate me. If you know what I mean.

>>6968763
You'll grow to love Cocona throughout the story. Sasha, Cynthia and Cocona are probably the hardest workers in this game but they were never rewarded. Anyway Cocona is in AT3 as well.

>>6968763
>although it could be because of his voice acting.
Nah, it's that way for the undub too. It's probably his character design though you may like him more when you find out about his past

>>6968779

Sasha is just so hnnnnngggg. And it's too bad it appears Cynthia isn't a vanguard, even though she's dressed for battle and has experience in weapons.

By the way, is there something that determines whether you get a shop event? You know, when a shopkeeper tells you to come over when you first enter town? It seem to be somewhat random. One time I entered Rakshek and Sasha told me to come to her shop. But then I messed up something and reset. The next time I entered, Skycat told me to come to her shop, and again when I returned from the world map after watching the first event. But Sasha didn't come out. However, after I made a bit of plot progression, Sasha appeared again.

>>6968800
If you have multiple shop events with the same shopkeeper available, then I think you have to go and have a battle or something in between them, or the next one won't activate.

>>6968640
For vanguards I just used Croix and Cocona, because Croix is strong and Cocona because always use loli characters in my party. I sometimes use Shun for a bit of a change, but I have Instant Death skills on both my vanguards, so everything dies immediately anyway.

Infel is love.
Nenesha is a worthless whore.

>>6968800
Fight a few battles and they'll invite you to their shop. Keep doing this and you'll be doing high level items about halfway in the game. You don't necessarily have the materials to make those items though.

>>6968829
>>6968853
>shopkeeper stuff

Ah, okay. I had a feeling it had to do with battles.

Don't know who Shun is but I guess I'll see eventually. I must give my appreciation to Gust for letting non-combatant gain EXP, now I won't feel obligated to use characters I don't want to use just to keep them up.

>>6968779

I was going to see that Cocona got rewarded by appearing in AT3 but seeing her fall for Shirou doesn't please me in the slightest.

>>6968779

I was going to say that Cocona got rewarded by appearing in AT3 but seeing her fall for Shirou doesn't please me in the slightest.

Man, I preordered AT3 Limited Edition with calendar a while back, it is agonizing waiting for the release date.el

what kind of adjustments does the difficulty setting make in AT2?

>>6969097
It's either Easy or Too Easy.

>>6969112

No Replekia, Girl Power, dirty level 1 reyvateils and default song magic makes the game rather fun.

>mfw I switched to method_replekia in the middle of the method_metafalica (or is it something else?) boss fight

That scene where Raki appears confirms that they hired the guy who did P3! It looked so similar to the scene where Nyx Avatar appeared. I love his use of colors

Also, why is Jakuri still sound like she hates humans? Wasn't that feeling gone when she sang exec_rig=veda?

Major phase 1 spoilers. I know she would probably come back to life later but seeing Cloche die instantly without having the chance to express her feelings was really sad

>>6969576
Oh and the undub version doesn't have subs for the anime cutscenes?

>>6969576
>why is Jakuri still sound like she hates humans? Wasn't that feeling gone when she sang exec_rig=veda?

Tsundere.

>>6969576
she had her faith in humanity restored, but that doesn't erase from her memory all the shit that brought her to despair to begin with. It's more like she accepted there are good people too and humanity doesn't deserve extinction after all

ar tonelico newfag here.

I haven't heard much about the games yet and I seriously haven't a clue what the games are about, besides the god tier music.

But nevertheless, I decided to give it a try and ordered the first two games for my ps2.
(I'm not a fan of emulators)

The games should arrive within next few days and I would like to ask you guys:

Are the games really as awesome as some anons claim?

>>6970266
They're probably not everyone's taste, but yeah, even in the worst case they're enjoyable (unless you've got OCD and want to have 100% completion, which is just one large Guide Dang It).
Personally I liked AT1 more than part 2, but even part 2 was good.

>>6970266

they are enjoyable.

>>6969048
I liked it. Shirou is a cool guy, and Coconut is super cute. If I wasn't able to get an ending for her I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it half as much as I did.

>>6970406

Well it's not so much that Shirou isn't cool or not but it's just that I don't like the thought of Cocona being together with him for some reason.

>>6970285
>>6970406
>>6971838

(haven't played AT3 or got to the end of AT2)

I guess Cocona didn't have a "secret" crush on Croix after all?

>>6972147
She has her own ending.

Phase 2 beginning question.
What did Luca do to Croix when he was sleeping? I thought it was the standard drawing on face with a marker thing but...

Such civilized discussion. If only 4chan could have a Hyperdimension Neptunia thread this good.

>>6973236
>Hyperdimension Neptunia

That's because it isn't good or Ar Tonelico

>>6973248
Well yeah, but it would be nice to know what I pre-ordered. I know absolutely nothing about the game besides something about a computer world and that its a JRPG.

>>6973261
It's pretty much just fanservice and thats it from what I hear. Sion: The Game.

>>6972147

Of course she loves him, purely as a brother though. I guess it's just the fact that I played AT2 and grew to like her as the lovable little sister only for her to slightly mature and end up lusting after the first cock she sees after arriving on Sol Cluster.

>>6973261
I guess I should say something about asking other people to feed you information about a game you pre-ordered without knowing fucking nothing about, but I'll pass.

Started playing AT2 recently, here. When does this revolving door party crap stop. I am getting sick as shit of re-equipping everyone and fixing my formation every 5 minutes.

>>6973466
Yeah, I had some extra income to burn.

>>6973554

Well the initial response to it seems to mediocre gameplay with a lot of fanservice shoved in your face. I believe there's a 10 minute clip (like the AT3 one) of the start of Neptunia to give yourself an idea of what to expect. Personally I'm only really buying it because the art book looks nice, any kind of RPG (shit or not) is always welcome and mainly to support these types of games getting localised.

I think people have too many varying definitions of "fanservice shoved in your face". I bet they'll say something has "too much fanservice" just because you see boobs bouncing in a single scene, and act like the entire game is that way.

The general opinion in Japan is that Neptune is a charage or a moege, so make what you will of that.

>>6973782
It generally means the plot and gameplay suck, and the only way of liking it is liking the characters and their quirky personalities.

I just bought cross edge for £8 preowned, heard its decent at best, but I only really bought it to keep me entertained till neptunia arrives, anyway.

I'm pretty happy.

>>6973762

As I said I'm just going off what I've heard. Even the rating mentioned the heavy fan service. Heck I even just went and watched that 10 minute gameplay video I mentioned just to confirm what I'd heard and not even 5 minutes into the game and they're already talking about the 360's breasts.

Said 10 minute gameplay video is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd1kAxNFKwg

Thank goodness it has dual audio.

>>6973508
It stops when you're gonig up the tower. that's like Phase 5.

>>6973786
>liking the characters and their quirky personalities.

That would also have to depend on how the writing is though. Like would they half-ass it and have really few events or actually fill the game completely with those like AT

>>6973508

I didn't really have this problem.. then again I only really used Croix, Cocona, Cloche and Jakuri.

>Spend over £350 on a PS3 and games including AT3 calendar edition
>Try to make a PSN account and my usual username is taken

Well fuck.

So do girls just like men like Croix? The strong, quiet type that's capable of delivering a smart comeback when the girls are joking around with him? AKA the visual novel protagonist type.

Lyner is the naive, talkative type, right? Just wondering about what would happen if Jakuri met Lyner instead of Croix in this situation

does anyone have the cg of mir cleaning the window?

>>6975589

"Throw it all in the garbage" comes next, I assume?

Obligatory.

>>6976829

And for anyone who cares, here is the AT2 CG rip
ttp://www.mediafire.com/?16462e1hhbcubx1

Is anyone else a little OCD with shop events? I have been entering each town, and most of the time a shopkeeper invites me to her shop and then we have a shop event when I get there. When that stops, I get to Town B and that town's shopkeeper gets events. Then I return to Town A and Town A's shopkeeper gets events again. And so on and so on for eternity until they finally stop. Until I fight a few battles and the process repeats again.

It's a bit annoying because I'm like, "I just want to move on with the story already!" Sometimes I could get stuck for an hour doing this. Yet at the same time, these events are kinda nice, I get recipe cards and fun conversations.

Also I want to second the anon that said they're glad the heroines have their own tabs for synthesis this time, making it a lot easier to keep track of who created what.

>>6976933
I was like that on my first playthrough (though I made the mistake of selling all the old weapons, including the Crack Bolts that went into the Scrap Metal recipe that kept me from getting the highest level stuff, derp), but skipped most of it on the alternate heroine run.

Has anyone tried playing AT3 on internal HDD?

slightly unrelated
will I be able to enjoy Record of Agarest War Zero if I haven't played the first game?

>>6977168
That's how I beat it.

>>6976908

Thank you for the reminder, I nearly forgot again. ;_; Obligatory.

>mfw Cocona's Photon Saber

I didn't expect exec_sphilia to play so soon! I thought it was a song where cloche was singing to jakuri because of the lyrics "being betrayed by the world". Who would have thought it was jakuri herself who was singing such a understanding song

And after looking at Croix and Cocona's ex skills, would AT3 battles even look this intense with the screen shaking and shit? I mean, the girls stripping is already embarassing enough by itself so the least they could do is make the battles look hectic

>>6978315
Where are the doujins of her being raped by 20 faceless men?

>>6976933
LOL, I'm that same anon and I've been doing that too! I find it a lot easier on my OCD when I no longer have to save and reload to save mats

>>6978324

>>6978330
OH MAH GAWD WHERE U GET DIS

>>6978324

There's still EX attacks in AT3 though they don't really give that feeling of impact whilst they're being performed like you got in AT2. Though they make up for this by putting everyone in swimwear and pulling off silly attacks (Giga Drill Breaker for Aoto etc.) along with Reyvateils now having their own unique special FlipSphere attacks (Saki has Cakes, Finnel has stars etc.)

>>6978358
>give that feeling of impact

Yeah, that's the word I was looking for. 2D song magic effects just look much more devastating. They shouldn't have gone to 3D if they couldn't keep that in =/

>>6978366

Well they had to make the jump at some point and it meant that they had some nice experience under their belt before making Totori so it's not really that bad.

>>6976307
> So do girls just like men like Croix? The strong, quiet type that's capable of delivering a smart comeback when the girls are joking around with him?

Many do. Croix is a bit beta though.

>>6979122

He's just the right amount of beta though, which is probably why he's so likeable compared to Lyner who comes across as a sheer idiot (no thanks to the translation).

Goddamnit ar tonelico is awesome.

playing 2 again. with god tier sawashiro miyuki as cloche

>>6970266

the emulator is easy to set up, not to mention you get the non-disgusting japanese voices with famous seiyuu.

and if your computer is in good specs you can up the resolution and +other features. fast load times = win/win

Question about Dive Therapy: Was something lost in translation here? I feel like I might as well be flipping a coin most of the time. Some of the choices make sense, but a lot of it seem like a complete crapshoot.

>>6979919

pretty much. i just spam the first choice and memorize when its good/bad.

>>6979919

Or just abuse save states if you're using an emulator. (Haven't gotten to this Dive Therapy thing yet but I imagine that's what I'd be doing.)

>>6976925
daww, thanks.

>>6979091
Rorona wasn't really good though..
It would ahve been so much better if they made 3 after Totori

Cloche's disappointed expression quickly replaced by the one where she smiles with her eyes closed, reminds me so much of Beatrice

>>6978366
I felt the 3D was fine, and looked much better than the 2D sprites in AT2. That's not saying I don't think 2D sprites look good, but they were particularly ugly in AT2.

>>6980510

They kinda looked like blowed up versions of Ragnarok Online sprites.

>>6979919
It's random. On the bright side, you only have to do this 100 times.

>>6980637
>All of a sudden I want to bite. Can I nibble on you?
>Depends on where...

Oh wow.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/02/18/nis-america-answers-your-ar-tonelico-qoga-questions/

>>6980492

Rorona isn't Totori. Totori improved drastically on Rorona and you could see that their engine is definately getting better.

Easiest choice ever.

>>6980677
>Can you elaborate?

>The big one is probably Mute, she’s a huge Reyvateil. In the Japanese version, her voice would stay pretty much the same like a normal kind of girl. We felt it would be better if she spoke with a deeper voice, more aggressive, pretty much more testosterone-y.

Why does a localization team feel the need to change characters.

>>6980827
You can always change the audio track if it bothers you.

>>6980848
I already own and have played that Japanese version so i wont even be getting the English release. It just bothers me that they even do it.

NISA has been sending out the "we're running out" e-mail for the AT3 calendar pack. If it's like the Neptunia pack it took another day or three til they actually ran out but then again AT3 got the email a lot faster than Neptunia did.

I ordered it even though I probably won't look at the calendar twice.

>>6980938

They also seem to ship out pre-orders in the order that they receive them, so I ordered mine the instant the first e-mail went out. I generally get the games about ~4-5 days ahead of time when I do so, so hopefully the trend continues.

>>6980827
>huge Reyvateil
>that must mean she has huge songs
>BURST AND SYNC
>BURST AND SYNC

>>6980827

It's why I was concerned with the 10 minute gameplay video when I seen it. My Japanese isn't very good but the conversation between Aoto and Mute just seemed so forced, are they actually like this in the game or is this just another case of NIS heavily localising and/or badly translating?

>>6980938

God damn it. I was holding back until I actually managed to see the calendar since I'm pretty sure the EU copy will be getting the visual book and soundtrack CD but not the calendar and I really don't want them to run out like they did with Neptunia before I managed to order.. And I don't even have a PS3 yet either.

>>6981813

Not having a PS3 at this point is almost as bad as not having a PSP and/or DS.

>>6981860

I don't have either of those and I have no intention of getting them either. I had a 360 for some RPGs (Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia etc.) and never really felt the need to get a PS3 until now. I spend 99% of my time on the PC anyway so that's probably why.

>>6981860
ds is a piece of shit why would you have it

>>6981869
>Bangcock

I won't even bother explaining why.

>>6982099
>insulting people based on personal grudge without contributing to the subject

And now time to get that PS3.

>mfw they ever release a dancing game that involves seemingly confusing hand gestures set to all the hymmos songs in the series for the kinect

>>6982206
For some 3D game?

>>6982505

Problem, sir?

>>6982963
2D is superior.

>>6982970
3D derp Tilia is superior.

is cross edge and trinity universe any good?

>>6982970

Perhaps so but I can easily emulate those 'superior' 2D games whereas I cannot with PS3 games.

>>6983002

Did someone say derp Tilia?

>>6976933
Been experience this recently. Just got to Phase 3 and I swear I've spent the past 6 hours going between shops, crafting and watching conversations. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

And I believe Jakuri just referred to Aurica as "a girl who sucks at naming things." I could not possibly disagree more. Aurica was my synthesis partner all day every day because of her impeccable ability to grasp the essence of an object and distill it into easily recognizable name. That girl was gifted.

>>6983188
She's talking about Shurelia, moron.

>>6983142
Thus encouraging people to develop 3D games because they are more profitable. Moron.

>>6983188

I stopped letting her name anything after the "Shinyroo" incident. *shudder*

>>6983203
She refers to Shurelia is the girl that's clumsy.

>>6983203
I don't think Shurelia actually names many things. She just tells your their original names.

>>6983209

So I should go out and buy games that I already own and instead buy absolutely no recent games at all even though I want to support the publishers for actually bothering to bring a handful of games I want to play over, right? I'm sure glad I can enjoy video games unlike you.

>>6983558

Shurelia names plenty of things though it's usually something technical or something to do with rabbits. Personally I'm a fan of BBQ soda just because the idea of it is so ridiculous and the image of it always makes me laugh.

Am i doing something wrong or is red magic worthless?

First time playing the game and I just got to the part where I can fight Tastiella to open the Chronicle place. I did that and then I fought Mir, who completely raped me. Was I not supposed to do this or what?

>>6984659
That's rather hard, as you aren't really supposed to do that for another 10-20 levels. It's quite do-able, but it's a pain. Also, it's the BAD END.

>>6984675
Oh ok, I don't want that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBk43mZ2xgs

I'm pretty sure nobody knows where to find the soundtrack of this. The battle themes are great.

Oh yeah, and this game is called Taishou Mononoke Ibunroku and it was made by GUST in 2003.

>>6984675
If you strengthen Shurelia's buffs and use them for the entire battle, after 3/4 turns, your party will be completely invincible while dealing thousands of damage to poor Mule.

>>6984961
How do you strengthen spells? Or do you mean just charge it? I'm pretty bad at this game, been using the same weapons/armor on most chars for a long time. Only Lyner does decent damage :V

>>6985043
Keep on diving to unlock new spells, and focus on charging them as much as you can during battle to make the most of them.

As for equipment, CRAFT EVERYTHING. Strong armour coupled with the rare crystals you should have a few of(you aren't using the super-rare ones to craft, right? Don't waste them, use generics instead) make the game super easy. Make sure every party member has a hp recovery crystal on at all times as well, because that little hp recovery every turn eventually breaks the game.

>>6985043

Be sure to assign crystals to all of your equipment no matter how shitty they are. Eventually you'll start to notice that you don't even need to cast song magic anymore because crystals pretty much faceroll everything. Though this makes the game rather dull.

>>6983117

I've heard that Trinity Universe is surprisingly good and Cross Edge is quite mediocre but I haven't played them personally.

>>6988162
Trinity Universe was amazing to me, really, and everyone needs to play it, but yeah, Cross Edge sucks.

I loved the shit out of Trinity Universe. It lacked some polish, but I thought it was one of the most fun games last year.

bumpers

>>6989516
>>6989532

Urgh, was going to buy this but it's going for £35+ in the UK purely due to the fact that typical NIS games become stupidly rare after a year. A shame too since I've managed to grab everything else (Rorona etc.) for £15 or less.

>>6988162
>>6989516

The lack of Trinity Rule 34 is disturbing. Seriously. It has titty monster fox girl, DFC moe catgirls, another DFC ninja girl, a multi-armed naga for a final boss. And there's not one Rule 34 of this game? The fuck, Japan?

>>6990948
You can always make some yourself.

>>6992431

Somehow stick figure rule 34 of Trinity Universe characters doesn't seem that appealing.

>>6990948
Miyu is such a good girl. ;_;
I somehow want to see her getting raped.

>>6993145

More like she rapes you.

Don't you listen to her battle quotes? She's got a mean streak in her.

>>6993184
AND A PENIS
DON'T FORGET THE PENIS
HER BAG IS THAT BIG SO SHE CAN FIT THE GIANT CONDOMS USED TO COVER HER THROBBING ERECTION.

>>6993184
>Don't you listen to her battle quotes?
I don't speak Japanese. Wait, does that mean you played the game with voices set to English?

>>6976933

You might like Tales of Vesperia. The entire fucking Tales series has secrets based around "do x thing, then backtrack to x place and talk to some random guy for an scent".

Is it bad that I want Cynthia, the weapon smith in AT2, to be a party member? Is it bad that I really enjoy her scenes?

Also, damn that Spica. I wish they added a bucket of candy option.

What scene was this?

>>6993303
Cloche remembering the part of her childhood where she was experimented upon countless times. It's the reason one of her cosmosphere layers is missing, she blocked it out from her memories.

after seeing the ending of AT2, when Jakuri was talking to Cocona about sending her off to another land, i've been wondering.
does Cocona appear in AT3?

>>6993590
you been under a rock or something? yes she appears in AT3, and yes she is one of the vanguards this time too.

no.

>>6993615
never bothered to look up any info on AT3 to surprise myself.

Well it appears we're past the post limit. I'd suggest waiting until the 'LULZ RANDUM EPIC GET XDDD' passes before making a new thread - until then just use the archive when this one dies.

>>6993696

Have a COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

>>6993225

Yes. I don't think all dubs are bad.

She says things like "WHY NOT DIE?!", "THERE WILL BE NO MERCY, EVEN IF YOU CRY!", "NO REGRETS!"

>>6993271

I think I noted that earlier in the thread. She sure is dressed for battle and she knows how to make equipment. Then again, if she was a party member she wouldn't be a synthesis shop anymore and we probably wouldn't have those fun events.