/jp/ - Otaku Culture

eventually there has to be a bluray realease. the DVD quality is not enough.

>>685256

But is eventually like a month or two or 6 months?

Cuz the waiting is killing me.

BLU-Ray sucks and only HARDCOREAWESOMEELITE people care about it.

Just download it twice unless you live in a place with retarded internet download limits.

>>685265
I know dude I'm totally waiting for the superior HDDVD release.

>>685268
This.

>>685268

I don't care about keeping it in the best quality.

I want to watch it for the first time in the best quality.

So I don't want to waste my first viewing on something inferior.

>>685278

Hahaha enjoy waiting a year or two.

>>685278
So you've never watched Slayers or any old good anime? Get the fuck out.

>>685296

No, just because something is old means it sucks. There are dvdrips, etc. It's no bluray but it's better than tv-rips.

These movies are different cuz there is a possibility of higher quality.

Old anime doesn't have the possibility of bluray so dvdrip is fine.

>>685305

*doesn't mean

sorry typo

>>685305
lolwut.

What are you, a Halo fan? "OH MAN I MUST HAVE SHINY AWESOME GRAPHICS WHAT TV RIPS HERESY"

>>685305

>Old anime doesn't have the possibility of bluray so dvdrip is fine.

Dragon Ball Z, bitch.

gb2/hydrogenaudio and discuss your placebo bullshit there

>>685318

Yeah I watched the two DBZ movies in bluray, it was awesome.

>>685319

I have no idea what that is.

imho they will first finish airing it in cinemas, then release all DVDs, and after that maybe blu-ray. That's 2009 or so.

>>685349

Ugh they should just release the bluray the same time as the dvd like they do here most of the time.

Well, I think I'm sick of waiting. I'm currently downloading all releases of Knk and Eva and I'm going to sample them all before choosing.

>>685349 and after that maybe blu-ray in 2019 or so.
Fixed

Holy shit! Just watch whatever you can get you fucking elitist faggot.
There is no visible difference between 480p,720p and 1080p anyway.

>>685387

>There is no visible difference between 480p,720p and 1080p

6/10, lol'd hard

>Old anime doesn't have the possibility of bluray so dvdrip is fine.
Pre-digital anime is recorded on film, which has a much higher resolution than DVDs can hold, so that's not an issue. The only real problem is that there's no 4:3 HD standard, but there are several solutions around that.

>>685393

Ok, ok I meant most anime doesn't have the possibility of bluray release cuz frankly nobody cares unless it's a super popular show that managed to stay popular through the ages (like DBZ). Most companies aren't going to redo their shows in HD.

I'm well aware of film having like insane resolution far beyond HD.

>>685387
Stop using a 14" monitor

>just because something is old means it sucks.
Almost had me 5/10

>>685402
Stop being a fag. There is no HD animu,so there is no point in downloading 1080p DVD releases instead of the normal TV rips.
Believe it or not: animu characters are not as detailed as real people.

>>685460
>There is no HD animu
3/10

>>685460
Lies and slander

>>685401
It's the same with DVDs, is it not? For instance, 21emon an Alfred J. Kwak still don't have a Japanese DVD release (though the latter does have a Dutch one).
After all, making a DVD out of something isn't just matter of sampling at twice the needed resolution, scaling down, encoding to MPEG2 and punching it on a disc. You still need to clean up dirt and damage, rebalancing colours, resynching audio at points etc. A lot of work. Even so, there's still plenty of DVD releases of older shows that don't come close to Dragonball Z in terms of popularity out.

>>685509
The KnK movie is incredibly detailed and full of different things you can't just fix by upscaling

>>685519

Yes, even the encoding by the subbers suck because of it.

see what I mean?

in conclusion, it's a stupid thing to say you can just rescale it

>>685530
No point in rescaling it, but there really isn't much difference between SD and HD for anime. Lines are lines, fills and gradients and fills and gradients, you really aren't missing much.

Fuck, there's little to point to HD live-action stuff.

>>685519
Where did I say anything about scaling up? Scaling up is never a proper solution... ever.
I said scaling DOWN, because the analog source has been sampled at twice the needed resolution in order to produce a faithful reproduction. KnK has nothing to do with this, because it's digital to begin with (though it does need to be scaled down, since the source material was made at a much higher resolution than SD video).

>>685559
Even a straight line has detail that can't be seen on lower resolutions, if it has been made by human hands.

>>685587
Well KnK is all CG so that point it invalid.

Besides, why the hell do you care about missing some infintesimal detail on the edge of a desk or whatever?

what is this KnK you speak of?

>>685622
KyounareKa faggot

>>685622

Die.

Are these people saying that theres no difference between SD and 1080p anime even watched it on anything besides their 17" computer monitor? I can see a huge difference on my 1080p 52"

>>685648
Why the fuck do you even HAVE a 52" screen? There's no goddamn reason for it.

>>685654

That's like asking, why the fuck are you here on /jp/?

>>685608
>Well KnK is all CG so that point it invalid.
No, it's not. It's CG in the sense that it's inked, painted and edited on a computer (by humans), but it still is drawn by humans on paper, after which it's scanned in at a resolution higher than full HD.

>Besides, why the hell do you care about missing some infintesimal detail on the edge of a desk or whatever?
You know why 3D animation integrated in 2D animation stands out so much? Of course, the comparatively smooth motion and consistency is part of it, but you can still tell it apart even when the screen is frozen, because the 3DCG is lacking exactly THAT.

>>685662
Not really. Being on /jp/ is free (assuming you have the internets, which isn't much of an assumption these days). Owning a 52" TV is fucking expensive, and offers no advantages over a more reasonable 28"-32" screen - unless you count needing to watch from further away as an advantage, or you have a love of HUEG pixels....

>>685666
And since when does CG standing out actually matter? Shit's long since dropped into the uncanny valley, and it's gonna take a lot more than smooth lines to bring it back out again on the other side.

>>685669
Because I have a disposable income and can afford it. Happy?

And Pixels? I'm using this thing to browse 4chan on my couch atm and I can read everything just fine.

>>685669
that's not the point here. it's like saying "Why have a 20x32 inch poster of a piece of art when I could have the exact same thing on a piece of printer paper?"

I love the idea of a nearly empty tiny apartment with a 52" inch television.

>>685675
Uncanny valley is a myth.

>>685675
Maybe my way of putting it was a bit roundabout, but am I really expecting too much from people to understand my point from that?

>>685684
Two screens with the same resolution but different sizes will have different-sized pixels. The smaller screen will have the smaller pixels, and will thus look less pixellated and thus look BETTER.

Screens should be sized appropriately for the room they're in. A cinema you sit a large distance away from so a large screen works (actually it works the other direction in this case but meh), while in a living room you sit fairly close so a smaller screen is better. ~30" is the ideal size for most living rooms. If you happen to live in a mansion, maybe up to a 40" would work. Anything beyond that is retarded.

>>685690
No it isn't.

>>685691
Wut?

Pretty sure they announced they would be releasing Eva on Blu-ray, who knows when though.

>>685696
Not the TV guy...

but do you see this 4000x2000 pixel scan? It's high quality, right? Wouldn't you rather have this, which has the same amount of quality as a smaller picture but it's larger altogether, than a 640x480 version?

also, most people have a monitor that's at least 20 inches nowadays. I bought my 22 inch LCD monitor for 230 dollars, you know.

>>685705
Oh yay. Yet another release of NGE. What number will this be? Fifty-seven?

Fuck I hate that show, and the retards it has spawned.

>>685707
>Wouldn't you rather have this, which has the same amount of quality as a smaller picture but it's larger altogether, than a 640x480 version?

That's a rather shittily-scanned, fuzzy-as-fuck image to use to back up your point. In fact I'd rather have it less fuzzy and half the size.

640x480 is getting ridiculously small.

>>685707

>also, most people have a monitor that's at least 20 inches nowadays

You don't go out much, do you? (except to buy that 22 inches monitor, of course)

>>685712
oh man theres just no dealing with you is there.

>Hey guise! I have an XBAWKS HUEG television on which I watch my animu at! Lulz am I cool yet?
I'm watching my animu and everything else I download on my 15.4" notebook and it looks good enough for me,be it 480p or 720p,I don't see much of a difference.

>>685707

Why do I see something that looks like white stuff on her hair?

>>685712
What about this, then?

>>685708
If we could erase but one series from existence.. Some people revere it as if it was some holy scripture or something.

>>685718

Of course because it's 15.4"

>>685715
There's plenty of dealing with me. I just think you're wrong. Bigger != better.

>>685723

Moar scans would be nice.

>>685719
Because you do. Shitty scan is shitty.

>>685713
It's true. Most people who don't have a computer that's three years old or so buys something from 19 inches upwards.

I mean fuck, unless you have a laptop, why would you get anything smaller?

>>685723
That's cheating, it's a raster image generated from a vector image. It'll be as high-quality as the resolution allows.

>>685723
>>685707
You're looking at this the wrong way. We're talking about the same resolution at different physical sizes. A better analogy would be to take a small image and upsize it, THEN compare the quality of the two.

>>685736
heh

what about this then?

>>685738
>A better analogy would be to take a small image and upsize it
That would be a good analogy to an upscale. Not so for a true HD image, though.

>>685726
Well,my cousin has one of those HUGE LCD screen.
When I first saw it I thought "Oh wow! Let's see how awesome stuff looks like on it!",then I turned it on and was like "Wait,that's all?".
THERE WAS ALMOST NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL

Btw. that notebook screen here supports 720p.
If there was any (notable!) difference between 480p and 720p,I would've noticed it.

tl;dr: HD is overrated.

OP is back.

Not sure yet about Eva, but I've decided on the rakkyo release for KnK. I compared it to the other one and it has better colors and maybe a better translation.

I guess it's good enough for me to watch. Very good encoding. Looks fine on my 26" lcd tv.

I shoulda known though that any mention of HD would cause a shitstorm. I really don't get how people can see something in HD and not be absolutely amazed.

>>685744
There's no other way I know of to approximate increasing the size of the pixels, uless you count using the Zoom function in whatever graphics editor you use.

>>685749
>I really don't get how people can see something in HD and not be absolutely amazed.

Because HD doesn't really make that much of a difference. VCR->DVD was a big thing, but DVD is really all the quality that anyone could use, and DVD->HD is minor.

>>685753

You must need to get your eyes checked because I see a very notable difference.

>>685757
Some slightly-lessened fuzziness does not awesomeness make.

>>685696
Are you saying your eyes can see the pixels on a ~40dpi screen? If so thats nice, but mine can't at around 4ft away which is my viewing distance sitting on my chair at my desk.

>>685757
No it's just your imagination. Media tells you that stuff is supposed to look better in HD,so you think it does.
And I bet you also save your music in FLAC format,because it's lossless and is supposed to sound much better then MP3/OGG.

>>685761
I wave shit eyesight (eight-year old glasses need serious updating) but I can see them just fine from ~15' away. Maybe you should see an optometrist.

>>685763
FUCK YES RED CAMERA

People won't say they can't fucking tell the difference between 5k and SD.

>>685763
This backs me up quite well, I think.

480p -> 720p = big visible difference
720p -> 1080p = minor visible difference

>>685767
>I have

Fucked if I know how a "w" got in there.

>>685767
15 inches is a foot away from your screen, dude.

Go back from your screen 4 feet and tell us if you can still see them.

>>685763
No difference between 1080 and 720. 480 is a little blurry compared to the others,but I wouldn't consider it OMG UNWATCHABLE UGLY SHIT WHERE IS MY 2160p!!

>>685781
>>685775
Look at this

>>685780
Fifteen foot, not inches.

>>685780
Yeah, I mistook it for inches at first too. Thats how you know he's bullshitting or he needs to define seeing pixels.

ITT we assume everyone has exactly the same level of eyesight and perceptive skills.

>>685785
Fifteen feet? Are you shitting me?

...oh wait. If you have an old monitor or laptop, of course you would.

On a newer computer, the pixels in a monitor aren't even really visible until you're like less than 7 inches away from it.

>>685857
>knk01_hd_1280x720.png
>knk01_hd
>hd

lol

I would be content with 720p
While 1080p is nice and all, I find 720p enough

>>685885
Fuck yeah,credits in 720p!
It's upscaled

lol people believing upscaling to 1080p = HD.

>>685871
Maybe with most anime but with actual movies the upgrade from 720p to 1080p is greater than SD to 720p.

OP here. I doubt 1080p is as much of an upgrade, but I really can't compare since my computer can only handle 720p.

Anyways I just watched KnK.

It was wonderful. A bit "LOL DEEP" but I guess I should expect that when it comes to Nasu.

Tsundere Shiki is hot and sexy. Seeing her try to open the ice cream with one hand was turning me on.

I can't wait for the rest of the movies.