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She's basically Katawa Shoujo's Rin except with arms and more authentically japanese.

>>6756119
That sound so shitty.

Nope.avi

>>6756119
HURR HURR

>>6756119
I dont think she can HNNNNNGGG like this.

>>6756119
>>6756194
Get out KS devs

Enjoying your autism much, yes?

Y'know I still don't get the logic behind some things in this game.

That whole confrontation scene and a lot about Kanon's mother bothered me in Kanon's route.

Also why was it never explained why Tokita killed some guy in that one girls route?

>>6756665
>Also why was it never explained why Tokita killed some guy in that one girls route?
Killing people is edgy

This game is becoming the next yume miru/KS/sharin no kuni

;-;

>>6756665

Also why was it never explained why Tokita killed some guy in that one girls route?

She killed the guy who burned her house down retard. Thats why she lit him on fire. Do you pay attention at all?

>>6756667
It would have been fine if they had just explained why it happened or what lead her down that path, instead we just hear that she disappeared one day.

There was no connection, no meaning

>>6756671
>>6756679
you must feel pretty dumb

>>6756671
From what I recall he had tried to burn down her house

>>6756665
For Tokita it was the same guy in the Haru route.

You will only sex up Yuki in a Bad End where she takes you to the grave.

;_;

>>6756668
Oh no, people are enjoying the same things as you.

usami > all akabesoft girls

what game is this

>>6758328
Too bad they are mostly kind of shit anyways, though personally I have a special place in hell reserved for Haru. Anyways, people read for story, not the lackluster moeshit.

Norio Wakamoto as Houzuki
Jun Fukuyama as Maou

Jesus Christ, Akabesoft's antagonists are too epic...

The biggest mistake she made was why did she let Tsuki take the suitcase WITH the papers in it.

If she was going to swap the suitcase anyway then she should of just gave tsuki a suitcase with pieces of faintly similar looking paper.

but Definately Haru is the best character, goddamn i love her. she's now my waifu, she made me HNNG so damn hard. more then Rin ever did.

So what genre would this VN fall under?

>>6758373
It's you isn't it.... Maou.

>>6758428
Battle of wits.

>>6758428
Main genre would be : Mystery, Romance.

awesome hair

>>6758428
Dating game

>>6758373
>special place in hell reserved for Haru

I could not help but hear Lelouch's voice as i read that. goddammit

While in the VN Haru is certainly the best character, and akabesoft know it considering how much development she gets, which is fine since the main story of the VN revolves around her.

Although I think it's a pity the other characters are a little deglected in comparsion to the depth of character development.

Haru is a story character, I especially loved seeing her different sides, her crying and it was beautiful to see her darkness and rage.

>>6756671
>>6756679

She found out That that guy burned down her old house and killed her mother with it.

>>6758342
>>6758342
Name?

>>6760150
Devil on the G-String

>>6760159

Well, well, well. Look who's here.

>>6760166
I never left.

>>6760166

>>6760181

Fuck off dude. I'm the master of the pigs.

>>6760203
Oink, Oink, Oink.

I played all routes but her and was not really impressed. Should I finish or not?

>>6760224
Considering it's the best one, yes.

>>6760224
Her route is the only one where you get the full story.

>>6760224

You are a dumass aren't you

THE WHOLE GAME REVOLVES AROUND HER.

Here is a a preview of her chapter

I have the same empty feeling like I finished Cross Channel at True route, if Kenichi can survive a horde of military through some bullshit, I don't see why Kyousuke cant be the same, gd it looseboy

>>6760159
Don't feed retards like that. If they can't come up with the name within all this commotion after being translated they are better off away from this board. That kind people are the same kind of people that make retarded "lol this scene was like this" and don't care at all for spoilers all over their post for example.

>>6760235
Background CGs are so dull.

>>6760295
Who cares about that? Look how suave Maou is.

Just finished Haru's route, and enjoyed it quite a bit.

Just wondering, though...
Is there a general consensus to what Haru's daughter's name is? I was originally thinking Kiyomi, but I read somewhere that Haruna contains the Kanji for spring and at the end of the game states "And then, when Haru told him the name of his daughter, the powdery snow suddenly came to a halt. Almost as if it were a harbinger for an early spring.

It could make sense since supposedly "Haruna" began performing again sometime when Kyousuke was in jail. Instead of being Haru starting to play violin again, it could be Haruna playing piano.

Thoughts?

I hope that the "children carrying the sin of their parents" theme isn't supposed to be mirroring any kind of real-life custom

Is it
Because it is quite ridiculous

>>6761653
In japan, the whole family can be harrassed because of one parent.

>>6761621
Definitely Kiyomi. The spring motif belongs to Haru, it would be utterly retarded to just reuse it.

Also, Mishima Haruna restarted activity only a year after Kyousuke's arrest. That would be one talented infant.

>>6761621
>Instead of being Haru starting to play violin again, it could be Haruna playing piano.
I don't think so, It is said that Haruna was BACK so it's clearly not a different person. Also I find it hard to believe someone younger than 7 years old making so much success to the point of reaching prisons. And even if that was the case, he would hear / read that people were talking about a young girl playing the piano was making a lot of success and her name was Haruna.

Also, Kiyomi is related to spring too in a way. When the letter Kyouhei received from his father is being read it mentions something about Kiyomi being the harbringer of spring for his father or something like that (but I'm not sure)

>>6761662
>>6761681

Ah, okay.
I couldn't recall when Haruna restarted activity and didn't really think it out throughly. Thanks

>>6761681
It said that Kiyomi died on a day that you could feel the oncoming spring, in other words, a warm winter day. pretty much the same thing, I guess.

>>6761653
I love how well this vn pulls you in
for the first three chapters I Haru was just an annoying character I really disliked
but by the end I loved her

>>6761653
I love how well this vn pulls you in
for the first three chapters Haru was just an annoying character I really disliked
but by the end I loved her

>>6761734
How could you? She was great from the start.

The only thing I didn't liked from the beginning was the awful "Cute and nice girl comes wake me up and we walk together" and Eiichi's awfully annoying voice.

Game ruined so much of the good it had going for it.

I can't believe it turned out to be so garbage in the end. I guess I'll stick to enjoying my Shiratori route and forget chapter 5 exist.

>>6763235
That wedding dress

Did anyone else get kinda fed up at how some of the scenes got dragged out? I also got slightly annoyed at how everything and anything was constantly being explained. I wanted to think a little on it but they usually just explained it straight after

>>6763280
You should try to predict. It's much more fun.

>>6763280
You mean like the ending? And how it basically kept plot twisting even though they ended up with the same cliche bull in the end? yeah, rung my nerves pretty hard.

That ending got so tiring I damn near skipped half of it.

I probably enjoyed all the other drawn out scenes though.

>>6763295

Yeah I was doing that as well but I didn't find it very hard.

>>6763308

Depends on what you was enjoying. I found chapter 3 to be really drawn out so I often skipped most of it. Which also was kinda annoying as I still knew what was going on. Chapter 2 was a bit of a snore fest but if you pay attention tons of hints are dropped which allow you to predict most of what will happen in future chapters. Chapter 4 was OLEV. Chapter 5 You will never be as awesome as Kyouhei and get such a shitty ending

>>6763235
I'm not completely satisfied with the ending either, but Shiratori? Really now? The most unnecessary heroine with the most shitty route?

>>6763365
I picked Sachi and Sharin too, yo~

>>6763360
Chapter 4 Usami pissed me off quite a bit. I think I dropped liking her around then.

>>6760256
Keichi was a trained war hero, he was a killing machine in the right hands.

Kyousuke was a thinking man, never one to get directly involved but rather to send other men to solve his problems.

I only did the true ending path and from my experience chapter 4 is overrated.

Would it have been better if the main character had multiple personalities after all?

It would have made the sex with Usami more interesting at least

>>6763404
>Kyousuke was a thinking man, never one to get directly involved but rather to send other men to solve his problems
Unfortunately, when characters like Maou and Usami (heck, even Tokita to some extent) overshadow him in that area, he comes off as mostly incompetent.

I loved Usami way the fuck early on, as soon as she did the detective thing with the gym key I was on the Haru route train.

And I beat it and now I have less than zero desire to see any of the other routes.

I need to have more foresight. Kanon and I'm sure Shitori or whatever are good, but come on.

>>6763419
It was too obvious too early on. They over hinted it, the entire story would need to be changed. By the time you realized it wasn't Kyousuke you were supposed to be legitimately surprised.

>>6763423
Nonsense, this is the guy who once threatened Gouzou's life by kidnapping the Police Chief's son.

I did find chapter 4s True end path to be subpar, but once I had finished true end and went back to check out the other paths mizuha became OLEV for me. That quiet tsun is so damn moe

>>6763446
And basically the only time he one-upped Gonzou. Seriously, Kyousuke has almost no good moments to shine in the VN.

I need something else to play after this

Something character driven as opposed to plot driven, not to be mistaken for the sense of high school comedy type thing but rather something emotionally drive.

>>6763442

They really did overhint it. I reckon you could just finish up to the end of chapter 2 and with all that information be able to figure out the rest of the plot. This is kinda why I wish they left a bit more to the imagination

>>6763484
I was able to guess it.

I mean, my biggest clue was when they "outright told you". I figured a twist that big they wouldn't drop so early, so there must be more to the story. Then they tell you he had two brothers.

Who did Maou fall in love with during Kanon's route I wonder.

There was a girl in his shower during that one scene and if you so decide to pick Kanon he actually stops being Maou due to falling in love.

>>6763513
Kanon

>>6763442
If he really was Maou he could pull the ultimate trap by having it seem like someone else is Maou, kill him, and then kill Haru in the epilogue revealing that he was Maou after all and the guy they killed was just some guy he brainwashed.

>>6763513

That girl who loves Haru probably. I completly forget her name but from what we know and are shown,she's pretty much the only one he could fall for. As most of his time seems to spent recruiting people and Women mercenaries are rare as hell.

>>6763513

You are never told out right but there are hints that it's Yuki

>>6763547
>>6763552
Hints? Like how he comments about how he's going to kill her along with Haru?

They tried to build up kyousuke attitude so much.

Then he just went full baka the moment "your evil deeds end here!" Honestly, it would have redeemed itself if he would have killed Usami at the end, like they seemingly led on.

Any of the bad ends worth it?

>>6763572
They're all kind of depressing.

You do get to see Yuki's tits in Mizuha's bad end, though.

>>6763558

This is all guess work as we are never actually told anything but by that point he can be considered to be over her or he never fell for her. Another theory could be the whole "What one does the other will follow through on" so when Kyousuke fell in love with Kannon, Kyouhei fell in love with Yuki Also keep in mind he has always expressed interest not only in her talents but her as well What proved it for me was When Kyouhei was thinking how he wanted her to be around to help him near the end

Honestly, though I couldn't figure it out on my own, when I went back to look at all the clues I figured that there were a ton of little bullshit parts preventing you from figuring it out.

It was never justified why Kyouhei had headaches, just like Kyousuke. During Kyousuke's headaches, there were in fact times that he went around doing things that he later could not remember. It's also bullshit that Haru thought that Kyousuke was Maou at all. When her mother was killed, she clearly saw Maou enough to know that he was much older than her. Speaking of which, right before Gonzou is killed he tells Haru that Kyousuke is Maou, even though he knows at that time that it isn't true.

There's also that part in Kanon's route where we see Maou saying that he's given up on his plans (though that may be a lie), saying something about how he found love. He also says that he feels the last headache he'll ever have coming on. Seriously, that just isn't fair.

Oh, and then there's that nonsense that the director pulled. It's implied (or rather an unwritten rule) that only the protagonist, Kyousuke, has his text written at the bottom. Other narrators are supposed to have the full screen text style with their silhouette.

Even though it was really good, I feel that Sharin no Kuni's twist was done in a much better and more subtle way.

Still, I really liked this game. It's too bad there wasn't a footjob bad end though.

>>6763585
There were SO many similarities to SnK.

I mean, it was different. Technically.

But so very, very similar.

>>6763585
Haru may joke around about Kyou being Maou but she at her core didn't believe it, Gouzou knew the truth after taking the phone call into consideration, what he said to Kyou right after that is a give away.

>>6763592
Personally, I think pondrthis's comparison of the two was spot on.

"Sharin is a summer story, G-Sen is a winter story. Sharin’s protagonist is someone with an upbeat, straightforward attitude, G-Sen’s is brooding and upset. Much of Sharin is centered around the sins of the protagonist, G-Sen is centered around the sins against its protagonist. In Sharin, the lead characted works to heal the hearts of the heroines, in G-Sen, the heroines work to heal the heart of the lead character. Sharin’s hero is a hero, and villain is a villain, G-Sen’s heroes are villains and villains are heroes. It’s the exact opposite, and yet so similar in many respects."

Full Article: http://visualnovelaer.wordpress.com/2010/09/20/g-senjou-no-maou-pondrthis/

I don't know how trustworthy it is, but I've seen a few people say that the writer intended for Kyousuke to be Maou in the side routes. It does fit with his freakout at Dr. Akimoto's office in Tsubaki's route and Maou giving up in Kanon's route.

>>6763620
Keichi often came off as more of a guy who simply put on the mask of an upbeat guy.

It's probably not popular to say this, but I sort of enjoyed Tsubaki's route, but I think it's just that I like that kind of character. I enjoyed it more than Kanon's route, anyway.

>>6763585
It was pretty obvious in this game considering it a main plot point. It was obvious Kyousuke wasn't really Maou after a few switches between them, and as soon as I heard about his siblings I was all but 100% positive it was one of them. Hence, I agree that SnK's equivalent twist with you know who was much better and totally unexpected. Though, they're both still pretty good. I really like this author's style for the most part.

>>6763620
Tsubaki and maybe Haru helped to heal Kyousuke's heart but Kanon and Mizuha were rather unable to help much in that area.

Also it's strange that we never found out the truth about the Valentines Day chocolate she gave him some years back.

>>6763561
This is definitely true. Kyousuke's basically what Eiichii said, an asshole who suddenly starts acting like a main character with some kind of unbreakable moral code. It's a real letdown when he turned out to not be Maou since he's just an ordinary kid instead.

>>6763585
The only thing I can argue there is the headaches, it probably ran in the family.

>>6763647
Mizuha did the best job if you ask me. He finally started acting like himself.

>>6763634
I think I liked her ending more than any of the others. Devoted waifu and Kyousuke finally gets to live with his mom. D'aww.

>>6763661
Tsubaki did the best job at making him care about something, he stood up to Gouzou of all people to save something that would have been torn down anyway. It was a desperate situation but he still showed more initiative than in most routes, not only that but it's the only route where he saved his mother.

The only problem with Tsubaki's route (to me) is that he still has to deal with the 200 million yen debt, all while not making the bank he had working for criminals. It seemed like a temporary happiness, that would get worse over time.

>>6763700
Considering Gonzou's apparent benevolence that may not have been as bad as it might sound.

Looking at the big picture you can dismiss the headaches as something to throw you off and his amnesia as a convient plot device[/spolier] I only really enjoyed it for [spoliler] Kyouhei, and boy I was pissed at his ending[/spolier] as with SnK I found it moves to slow for me, I liked G-senjou more then Snk though. [spolier]I also though the twists at the end of SnK was bs[/spolier]

Looking at the big picture you can dismiss the headaches as something to throw you off and his amnesia as a convient plot device I only really enjoyed it for Kyouhei, and boy I was pissed at his ending as with SnK I found it moves to slow for me, I liked G-senjou more then Snk though. I also though the twists at the end of SnK was bs

>>6763235
Dere Touka >>>> Tsun Mizuha > Tsun Touka >>>> Dere Mizuha

>>6763235
Dere Touka >>>> Tsun Shiratori > Tsun Touka >>>> Dere Shiratori

After finishing true route, I just couldn't bother to do the other routes. I felt my heart torn everytime Haru say goodbye and just disappear, to hell with insane mother that sold her body

on another note, the way Maou struck his final revenge come across as really cheap for me, can't he just let his little brother to get his well deserved happiness? For a genius like him, it's just plain weird how he keep blaming Kyousuke for mom's dead, he should plain know how persistent Gonzou is and his mother would probably be in worse situation since she was supposed to pay the debt while Kyousuke was sent to orphanage, really papa boy to the very core

After finishing true route, I just couldn't bother to do the other routes. I felt my heart torn everytime Haru say goodbye and just disappear, to hell with insane mother that sold her body

on another note, the way Maou struck his final revenge come across as really cheap for me, can't he just let his little brother to get his well deserved happiness? For a genius like him, it's just plain weird how he keep blaming Kyousuke for mom's dead, he should plain know how persistent Gonzou is and his mother would probably be in worse situation since she was supposed to pay the debt while Kyousuke was sent to orphanage, really papa boy awesomeness is reduced to mere child tantrum at the very end

>>6763757
I'm probably just going to wait for a bit.

Why did I play the true route first? I must be retarded.

>>6763765
Probably because dad died from circumstances beyond his control, aka heart failure. After all his effort, he lost what he worked all his life to achievem while his brother stays happy and cozy with the girl who is part of those he blames. It is pretty much a lashing out, after he has lost his purpose

>>6763815
Personally, I quite liked that resolution, as it was a very poetic sort of "justice," making everything sort of come full circle. It also serves as a nice foil against Kyousouke, being completely static and incorrigible in his path for revenge.

>>6763757
Well deserved? LOL

>>6763851

He was just around 10 at the moment the crime happened and unlike Kyouhei, his dad probably didn't bother to tell him the reason behind it, the conversation with Akimoto imply that he knew to some degree but personally I think it's just another cheap way to force the Kyousuke = Maou.

Regardless, he got his hand full just to deal with his life: his dad got jailed, his brother "died" at terrorist attack, his mom sickly all happened in one month and they were forced to move everytime and what's with drunken people, yakuza and bullying.

Beside who he should direct his revenge to? The main culprit Yoshinori already dead and he wouldn't have the heart to blame Kaoru and Haru, much less planning to free his dad, not when he was kept in dark, beside I doubt he has the proper resources and knowledge. He did plan his revenge in a way, to rise above the society that look down on his family, I'd say that's already honorable considering he is a mere young teenager at that time