/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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Also, because people keep asking for it, the Golden Grille:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwl0d_v3-Zc

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No, seriously, my Hummel is cursed.
Pretty much all games I lose where I don't get randomly killed earlier end with a curbstomping and like 7-9 of their tanks left.
2/3 of the games lost, no other tank comes even close, same tier Su-8 has a solid 56 or 57% wins, despite the lolrandom aim.
Fuck if I know why.
Also, gotta love children who first stay in the open long enough for the opposing arty to pick them out like sitting ducks and then start complaining how our arty has 0 kills. Hell, if arty hits him once, you'd think he'd get the idea that he's in a vulnerable spot and needs to move, right? But apparently that's too complicated.

>>6742512
T29 is slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Just got the 10,5 on my Hetzer. Things explode.

>>6743094
It'll be faster once you get the two engines.
And when you get the 105mm gun and the turret (I recommend doing that in that order) you'll be able to walk in a firestorm to kick the asses of everything tier 9 and below*

*Exceptions: other T29s, T32, T34 (unless you get them in the sides), Minimaus (same as the aforementioned), IS-4 (impervious to whatever you can throw at them, no matter where it hits) and T-54 (same as the IS-4)

>>6743829
>to anything tier 9 and below
>lists all the tier 9 tank except 2 mediums and says I cant kill them

>>6743914
Read that post again. You CAN kill tier 9s as long as:
You hit them in the rear or the sides
It isn't Russian.

Panther 2 105mm:
>7rpm
>220pen/390dmg with AP
>.3 accuracy
>2 sec aim time

IS-3/IS-4 BL-9:
>5.17 rpm
>223pen/390dmg with AP
>.35 accuracy
>3 sec aim time

In b4 T-54 gun with 300pen/450dmg

>>6744144
>aim time
There's a way around it.
Lock on a target, then unlock close to it. The circle will be minimum size.

wat.

Guess who won.

fuck servers

>>6746237
"...And that's why the americans invented the A-10."

Used to be in armor. Not gonna be much good unless the entire team knows armored tactics. Lone tanks get killed.

>>6746237
I'm gonna get that T-54 when the wipe starts, screw heavies and their incapacity to be very maneuverable, mediums are the real tanks in this game

Close to giving up on the game.

The Russian tanks are so fucking ridiculous. That and the spotting echanic is lame, buggy, and badly thought out.

>>6746749
well, its your choice if this game doesn't fit your genre, the game still has plenty of players, and don't take this game seriously when loosing or getting blown to bit by LOL invisible tank, its just a beta, a test run game, the real game will be much different

>>6746783
Eh. I've played in a lot of betas and generally know what to expect from them.

My main issue with WoT is that the developers seem well aware of the issues, but have displayed little interest in fixing them, especially with regards to the imbalance of the Russian tree. It's possible they'll get around to fixing spotting, but in my opinion it's a fundamentally bas concept, regardless of its current inconsistent and buggy implementation.

>>6746749
>Spotting mechanic is lame.
Of course not, its completely real.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK5ibIgVj0M

>>6746783
>the real game will be much different
Why oh why do I doubt this so.

Victory!
Battle: Sand River Monday, January 03, 2011 1:08:25 AM
Vehicle: VK 1602 Leopard
Received Experience: 2,082 (doubled for the first battle each day), credits: 23,925
Battle Achievements: Scout

the_reason_i_play_leopard.jpg

>>6746832
it will be

>>6746822
Allow me to one up you.

I was driving along in my leopard, then I was tracked my and M3.

It was just me and him sitting there in the center of a large field, about 20 yards from each other.

As I was tracked, he rotated 90 degrees to the right to shoot a KV. Halfway through his turn he FUCKING VANISHES 20 YARDS FROM ME WITH NO COVER.

3 seconds later he fires and pops up again.

Victory!
Battle: Sand River Monday, January 03, 2011 2:03:25
Vehicle: T29
Received Experience: 5,643
credits: 23,925
Battle Achievements: Top Gun, Sniper

>>6746906
Any particular reason for your confidence?

>>6746953
Well for one they're adding at least 2-3 more countries with their own tank tree.

Not to mention they planned on adding INFANTRY that you'll have to use your secondary guns on, oh yes you'll be able to use all those secondary guns plastered all over your tank.

At least thats all I know, the person you're talking to might know more.

>>6746963
Uh, that's not what I asked about at all. If anything, it probes the point.

They're more interested in adding new features than fixing their game, even when said fixes are often just balance concerns.

>>6747018
>>the real game will be much different
>Why oh why do I doubt this so.

Well you should have specified, but I doubt the way the game plays will change at all, if you dislike camping. Play low-tier matches, or play something else.

Thats why I play leopard, I charge in. Scout the fuck out of everybody, and in most matches kill one or two artillery before I die. I hate the non-artillery games because I dont have any targets.
Also Leichtraktor games are hilariously fun. And if you want to be an overpowered fagbutt you can buy the premium tier 2 french tank and just rape everybody else.

As far as spotting, its been talked about being fixed but thats about all we have to go by.

>>6747059
>Play low-tier matches, or play something else.
Or high tier games. With all the IX mediums going around games don't usually last very long.

So much for that ISP bull****

I'm back!... Time for some WoT!

>collission with [enemy player driving a Maus] destroyed left track
What the fu?
>the Maus suddenly materializes in front of me
>pic related

And it was in the middle of the tight road in Lakeville. There are no bushes there, and the Maus is too big to hide in bushes anyway.
So yeah, spotting is a bitch.

Just when you thought artillery couldn't get any better, I find out there's still a Tier of them to go.
The Russians have Obyekt 261, the Germans have GWE-serie and the Americans have pic related

If I get the Panther 1 or 2 before the wipe I'm going Russians or Americans.

I played with German tanks long enough. 800k exp should get me a T-44 and IS3 or IS4.

I think the artillery was balanced better when they had to deal with the teleport bug. The bug was also a kind of semi-realistic representation of lag due to verbal communication over radios.

>>6748185
I don't think they had that problem, only tanks had that.

As far as I remember by SU-5 days.

Ugh, german non-TD tanks suck dick.
I´m going Soviet after the wipe, maybe

>>6748193
I distinctly remember having that problem before the last couple of patches, when i had the su18 and 26. Either way, I think adding some lag to tanks only revealed by radio would be helpful for balance. You could make it cumulatively worse if you're getting the position over a chain of radios instead of directly from the spotter.

Got banned for killing 2 loltraktors. Herp.

Anyway, what tanks are you guys be in after softwipe?

>>6748185
>>6748193
I can confirm that artillery had no such thing as when I first started playing WoT I was in a Loltraktor to a VK3601H while platooning with a friend in a Hummel. He didn't even know tanks warped as he's always played arty.

>>6748233
IS-7 probably. As it is now I'll have enough to get a IS-7, skip past the terrible T1 and M6 on American line, and get a Tiger as well. I'll no doubt have a lot more by softwipe so I'd probably change Tiger to King Tiger.

So IS-7, T29, King Tiger. I want a T30 as well but that'd cost 1.4.5mil or something for an IS-7 and T30 while I only have 964, 322 total exp and I do want one of the two Tiger tanks so I can start my way back up to the Maus-Which I'm being extremely lazy about getting-again.

And yes, I'll be having all high tier heavy tanks with no low tier "credit earner". Real little girls use tier 9's and 10's as their source of income.

>>6742512
>>6742520
I hope you know there are train otaku, and its actually quite popular. You'd probably know this if you took part in our public cam viewing threads.

But since you're just some faggot trying to be cute, you could at least put more thought into it. You're even linking to tanks, and not trains.

>>6748565
What the fuck, are you serious.
Look we know you're buttmad that people on /jp/ are enjoying themselves.
There's no reason for you to be a faggot about it.

I have no intention of going down a heavy line again after the soft wipe, heavies are boring and useless now. Every high tier game is decided by who has more tier 9 mediums and who has better arty.

Since I'm an idiot, can you leave a battle early, use another tank, and when the battle ended, have the other tank gain the XP even though you left the battle early?

>>6749173
That will change if they ever nerf the T-54. T-54 wolfpacks ruin games, if they are 4 together they will absolutely devour anything in their path without taking any casualties because their frontal armor and turret bounces tier 10 shells. I've seen medium packs take down a Maus and IS-7 literally in seconds, this shouldn't be possible.

itt: same 5 fags who can't just talk to each other in game

>>6749225
Yes

>>6749225
Of course, duh.
But only if you´re already dead and not just leaving.
I always have like 3 tanks already in a battle when I´m playing.

>>6749235
Of course it´s possible.
Heavy tanks are meant to be more on the defensive side, just like TDs

Protip: Aim for the red spots and the hatch (not pictured). Their tanks are modeled after the real ones so ww2 era training manuals can help you out.

Also try changing your reticle to crosshair in settings.

>>6749416
Protip: Ignore that and just aim what I marked on this 'edited' picture. I get a 100% penetration rate whacking this particular spot, unless it is at a VERY akward angle.

>>6749173
>>6749235
Let me greentale you something, my son...
>I climb the hill on Malinovka with my Maus, followed by a VK4502, two KT and a Tiger I.
>Passed the church.
>Suddenly 5 mediums going downhill at top speed, mostly T-54s and T-44.
>They get literally tracked > shelled > raped andl die, we survive with barely any scratch.
Conclusion: mediums with 0 arty/TD/heavy support are useless.
They are made to spot, and win position advantage for their team, not rush and be like OHMYGODIAMATIER9MEDIUMYOUCANNOTSTOPMEHAHA.
Mediums are not Heavy tanks, they cannot survive alone without support.

>>6749263
More like the same 40-60 people.
oh my gah /jp/ has more than 5 people

>>6749416
Yes they're modeled after them, but the hit detection is strange at best. I've caught Pz4s on fire by hitting the turret, which could probably be explained by an ammo rack explosion.

Although it still doesn't explain me doing 5% damage from hitting the machine gun sticking way off the top of the IS's, or why no matter where I get shot, they keep hitting my fuel tank.

IM SURROUNDED IN FUEL TANKS.

>>6749459
Sounds like you're exaggerating and it was perhaps one T-54 followed by T-44s, because the KT and Tiger 1 can't even reliably hit the T-54. Maus is completely useless against T-54, same goes for VK45. A single elite T-54 can take down a Maus and VK45, given they were they last ones alive.

>>6749522
Haha, oh woaw, HAHAHA OH WOAW.
You are so wrong.

1. We were only four, but there was our team sniping from the base too. You're thinking like these mediums that believe there's no more enemies than what they see.
2. Picture related. I can take any T-54 on my VK4502 or Maus on a 1v1. They just plink on me, trying to move around me, while I rotate my turret + hull and track them or just damage them since they can only show their side. Protip: if you try to make them move backwards, they will turn around you slower and it will be even easier to kill them.

>>6749522
Haha, oh woaw, HAHAHA OH WOAW.
You are so wrong.

1. We were only four, but there was our team sniping from the base too. You're thinking like these mediums that believe there's no more enemies than what they see.
2. Picture related. I can take any T-54 on my VK4502 or Maus on a 1v1. They just plink on me, trying to move around me, while I rotate my turret + hull and track them or just damage them since they can only show their side. Protip: if you try to make them move backwards, they will turn around you slower and it will be even easier to kill them.
laughing.jpg

>>6748884
He's probably more concerned about the complete lack of being /jp/-related, rather than about people having fun. I mean, at least the other MMO spam games have cute girls for them to pretend it's not >>>/v/

>>6749263
You might be shocked at how many people there are on /jp/ that actually do things other than whine on the board all day. You know, like reading a VN or playing a game.

>>6749558
>I can take any T-54 on my VK4502 or Maus on a 1v1
Keep telling yourself that, you are no better than Afrika or Lancer. If the T-54 didn't manage to circle around you while constantly damaging you, he was brain damaged, or his engine was damaged. Though it's funny that you're mocking the medium driver's mentality, considering you're a heavy driver and all. I suspect you think the Maus is superior to the IS-7 also, despite stats of win %, average exp, etc. regularly posted on the forums.

>>6749584
0/10
My Maus stats are better than Afrika's ones.
Lancer is probably better than me.
They don't manage to circle fast enough around me.
You're mentally challenged.
I've never seen an IS-7 take on me on a 1v1, I've always raped them with ease.

>>6749584
5/10 trolling.

>>6749596
>Maus stats better than mine

I have more than double your games in my maus compared to yours.

Get on mumble so we can platoon.

>>6749584
I can kinda vouch for it, Maus is a sturdy little bastard.
I took it out for a spin while I was on Hitler's account doing his tank skin.

I'd still like to try out an IS-7 just to see both sides of the field, but seriously the Maus is rolling death if the driver isn't three kinds of retarded. In the one and only battle I played in it, killed an IS-7 solo, Panther 2, and an IS4 while being hit by a Ferdinand and bouncing his shells

I'm still going for the Panther II personally, I gotta have dat speed.

>>6749603
I was talking percentage-wise.

>>6749596
>They don't manage to circle fast enough around me.
>56 speed limit (km/h)
>48 traverse speed
Yeah, no. I give up. You can consider my retreat out of this argument as your victory, if you want some sort of sense of achievement out of this. Enjoy your German tanks.

>>6749596
>>6749600
So apparently you two think the T-54 is perfectly balanced (or not a threat to everything in wolfpacks), and that the Maus is better than the IS-7

>>6749631
>>56 speed limit (km/h)
>48 traverse speed
Moving in an nonlinear way slows you down, and you don't have your maximum traverse speed unless you are stationary.

>>6749660
Who said that the T-54 is balanced exactly?
Maus is clearly superior to the IS-7.

>>6749631
goddamn im so bored

All of this dick waving about stats and who "should win" really doesn't mean shit in-game.

If you're a better player, you CAN win 80% of the time unless you have a run of bad luck or you're hopelessly outmatched.

I can't tell you how many times I came face to face with (and beaten) tanks that, by all rights, should have left me in the dust as a smoking hulk.
StuG III vs a Ferdinand at full health, anyone?
KV-3 killing a MiniMaus?

It's more likely than you think- outmaneuvering or outsmarting someone, or them simply making an idiotic mistake can lead to serious upsets.

I can't tell you how many times a US heavy has essentially presented his side hull armor to me and suffered the consequences. The MiniMaus died to my KV3's 122mm because he exposed the side of his turret at nearly point blank range, and the Ferdi just wasn't paying the hell attention to the fact that I was behind him.

Stats do help, but they certainly aren't everything.

How could a nice little community like this let itself be reduced to statkiddies?
That, if anything, belongs on /v/.

>>6749584
>Though it's funny that you're mocking the medium driver's mentality
Pic very related.

>>6749765
Is this picture related?

>>6749631
I can from experience say that if you rotate your tank as well as your turret in the VK4502 you can and WILL catch a T-54 circling you. Though it leaves your sides and back quite open for the possibility of other tanks, you can't ignore a T-54 just pounding your rear armor. Even if it was on flat ground a single T-54 could never circle a VK4502 and win if the VK driver is good.

>>6749697
That third panel is completely wrong. You would never see the TDs.

Anyone want to platoon with a panzer III?

are you fags really complaining that 4+ people using teamwork beats your babby camping style?

Oh yeah

After the wipe, teir 10 tanks will cost 625-650K exp

Tier 9 med's are ~300K each
Tier 7 SPG's ~300K each

The T-54 is starting to win more and more attention from me, it's literally a smaller IS-7 in every aspect. I'm probably just going to get a GW tiger, IS-4 and use the rest to work down to the T-54.

The IS-3's front armor can be penetrated if shot at an angle, but head on (even at the bottom part) it will bounce better then other tanks angled.

Research on the Tier 8 Russian SPG is not going well, almost nothing can be found on it.

I did find this. God help us if this is the tier 8 russian SPG

obligatory IS-7>Maus in 1vs1

>>6751594
Sorry, T9 med's are ~400K

>>6751594
damn I only have 221,816 exp. how many games have you nerds played to have millions of exp?

>>6751594
teeheehee

i have 10k exp saved up on one tank...

the fuck is wrong with you people

Just started tanks.

What's this about a softwipe I'm hearing?

Should I just not start until this wipe is over?

>>6751709
you dumb shit, we are talking about total exp here.

>>6751754

fuck you. thanks

>>6751737
If the soft wipe occurs, you will lose all of your tanks and crews. In return you will receive all the experience you have earned as free experience in addition to full value for all of your tanks. I don't recall what will happen to the premium gold. Feel free to play, the only real loss will be the very experienced crews the older players have (I have a crew with over 500k experience each from 700 games) that newer players won't have.

why do I have so little exp? some people who started playing around the same time as me have over twice as much.

Goddamn.

I can't decide on a IS-7 or T-54. No point in getting both because they are to identical.

IS-7 has the armor and gun advantage, it's also at the same speed.

T-54 has the rotation speed and traverse speed.

-Both are maneuverable enough to get from point A to B with no problem.
-Both bounce shit with ease

>>6752150
You don't have enough autism.
That said, I have only ~19k exp more than you but over 114 battles less, though. Is this your first premium?

>>6752182
no I've had it for a while. I saved up for 30 days as soon as I started playing and turned it on around the time I got to tier 5.

>>6752204
well im playing about 9 different tanks right now. Exiting battle and entering a new battle instead of waiting will get you more experience. also you get another tank or two to mess around with. Over 3 tanks is a bit much ill admit, but I dont give a fuck.

>>6752233
Yup, that's pretty important - before I figured out I can leave battle and still get exp the game was REALLY slow.
And remember, now that we got more gold than we'll be able to use, you can use elite tanks to earn exp to skip lower tiers of new trees, or do my favorite thing - get enough free exp to get most things upgraded the second you actually earn enough exp to get a higher tier tank. Not having to play stock tanks really can be a blessing.
The same goes for buying 100% crews for your tanks - just make sure you only buy them on tanks you'll spend a while in.
But the better your tank is from the start, the more you can do and the more exp you get.

On a side note, it's funny comparing stats of people playing different types of tanks - I play mostly arty, with about 15% scouting and 5% assorted random shit, and I have 377k damage over 745 battles, despite my highest tank tier being V, and lower hit ratio. Really shows the difference in the roles of different types.

>>6752162

The variants of the 100mm gun that the 54 mounts all look pretty delicious. I have the base D10T on my IS and I'm a little reluctant to go back to the 122, actually, simply because of the painfully slow load time. It doesn't get much better as you get higher numbered IS-es, too.

I started grinding to get a T34 so I can maybe go down that tree eventually. Boof, don't you have a Maus already? Give the T54 a try, just to switch things up. It's Russian, they probably won't nerf it.

>>6752150

When did you start? I joined up November 12th. I do have to admit to doing some seriously forced-march pace grinding sessions into the wee hours of the morning, though. I actually came down with some cold or something because my sleep cycle has been shit because of it. Once I get a Ferdinand I'll probably just roll that a bunch and take it a bit more easy.

>>6752150
What the fuck, that's fuck all exp for 800+ games

>>6751594
>After the wipe, teir 10 tanks will cost 625-650K exp
>Tier 9 med's are ~300K each
And I'm bleeding chinese ink to get to the Pershing as it is! Let alone the grind from the T32 to the T34, and then to the T30!

They better scale how much exp you get accordingly, too.

>>6751594
Don't you love it when people say random bullshit and give no evidence?

>>6752445
It's trolling until there is proof.

He bullshitted about the Tortoise being the English Tier 10 until someone actually confirmed that he was wrong and got the real English tank tree that they have proposed.

Don't believe random shit until their is proof.

>>6752162
The T-54 is a lot weaker if you try to fight at range basically. It has more weak points on its frontal armor than IS-7 but you can't hit them reliably because of the speed. You have to keep moving or you'll die rather quickly and when you are circling a tank that strong frontal armor is void.

I'd suggest getting the IS-7. The T-54 may excel at specific situations but the IS-7 is a lot better overall.
>>6752351
BOOF has a IS-3, so far the only ones with a Maus are Hitler and Mayhem, I'll have it soon as well if I stopped being lazy and grinded for a few days.

>>6752487
*there

>>6752445
>>6752472
>>6752487
Alright, I found evidence, but it's a lot different than you all think.

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/7976-615-tech-tree-expcredit-costs-updated-us-tree/

Click on US tech tree (New Formatting)

You'll see the 728k TOTAL xp needed for the T30. This does not mean that the T30 by itself will be 728k xp, but your xp in TOTAL. The TRANSITION COST is how much it will be from the T34 to the T30.

They are increasing the xp cost for tanks, but not by very much.