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THIS SHIT IS KILLING ME

Only real character in Umineko all along.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z8SCpVD33I

IT WAS ALL HIDDEN IN THE LYRICS

Its all a fucking dream/story/book/fiction/whatthefuckever
Fuck all this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GeToprVdjU&feature=player_embedded

D'aww, OP's picture.

Remember when Yasu actually mattered?

>>6725413
Now IT'S ALL ABOUT BATTLER!

And Kanontrice has yet to be disproved.

Battler's sin was forgetting.

What the fuck happened to this series? It was actually a mystery at some point, but it became this.

Seriously, what?

Again, don't trust Anon
hurrrr
I TOLD YOU DOG I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE FUCKING TROLLS

>>6725417
>>6725413

It's all about Kawabata and his personas
accept it

more of this where

I'm terribly disappointed with Umineko. However, I'm thinking about reading Higurashi. Is it any good or it's a clusterfuck that doesn't make any sense like Umineko?

>>6725418
It's disproved because Battler = everyone except Tohya. There's no way around that.

/r/ Umineko version of autistic Sanae in a wheelchair

Ryukishi is making it hard as fuck to like Umineko anymore.
This shit is turning into Evangelion

>>6725436
Higurashi is good but take it as a story, the narration will do most reasoning for you.

>>6725436
Higurashi is possibly less of a clusterfuck at this point.

It's still witch-on-head retarded, though.

>>6725436
End is shitty, but not nearly as shitty as this.

>>6725436
I'm sure you've heard of the stupid ending Higurashi has, but throughout the game it's pretty solid. There aren't that many "wat" scenes.

>>6725436
Higgy had a derpy ending too.

Authors, as a rule, should avoid having authors as a major plot device.

It never helps.

Episode 8?

What Episode 8?

Sir, you must be mistaken. Umineko was a VN that ended on Episode 5.

What about Dlanor and Erika? WTF happens to them?!? Were they like kitchen utensils Battler personified into characters for his fucked up amnesia stories? WHY WHY WHY HWY HWGW HWHW WHYW HW YWH ERY@ EHWY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVDCQ4yZsIg#t=1m27s

Guys, it's amnesiac Battler! He's been watching us all along!

>>6725456
Don't you mean Episode 6? Man, that ending was great. Beato and Battler make an awesome pair.

Alright, so let me get this straight.
When Bern told the ???, that was actually true, and everyone actually died.
But in reality, Battler was just trying to remember what happened, so he kept making stories to remember?

EP8 in nutshell

>>6725458
Erika was a pair of chopsticks

So wait. Do we have real confirmation that the meta is completely fake no matter what?

Not in denial, just not seeing anything (screenshots, comments from 2ch?) that's saying so. I was just wondering.

When did I start believing that "It's not going to be another Matsuribayashi" meant "It will be good"?

Incidentally, when did YOU?

>>6725446
But anon, EVA was a great anime.

We still have a few more endings. So lets not count our chickens before they hatch.

Or just keep flippin shit / trolling to pass the time till then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUMG3H_yOHg&feature=related

AGAIN EP7 OP LYRICS HAVE BATTLER'S AMNESIA IN IT.

>>6725436

Everything up to the 7th chapter is really good, the final one, which everyone hates, involves pulling a perfect happy ending out of nowhere, but it's not as bad as this.

>>6725474
I think that the meta is supposed to be Battler's mind.

>>6725459
My head is full of billions and billions of fuck.

>>6725458

>Erika is middle aged man

>>6725482
Well, Rifyu supports Eva and Ange as the best mother daughter team ever.

EVA-ANGE-LION

>>6725482
>We still have a few more endings. So lets not count our chickens before they hatch.
Nope.avi
Amnesiac writer Battler is the ???? ending of ep8. Nothing beyond that.

>>6725485
Alright then, I mean, I actually have no problem if it is.

I would just like some screenshots or something, y'know?

MEANWHILE AT 07THEXPANSION

THERE ARE NO MORE FUCKING ENDINGS

DUDE EVEN UNLOCKED THE MUSIC BOX

But wait, there's one last thing I haven't understood.
EVERYTHING was actually a delusion of Battler's mind or the massacre did actually happen?
I'm starting to believe that none of the Ushiromiyas ever existed.

>>6725491
Can we get a screenshot, then? I just want to have my final illusions destroyed so I can call R07 a terrible writer and just play the fighting game in peace.

>>6725484
It took Rika like 100 years of repetitions fucking getting a miracle.

>>6725502
I think the murders did happen, but once Battler jumped off the cliff, he got amnesia. Then I suppose it goes back to game 1, where he writes all the stories in order to remember what actually happened on the island.

People insist ???? is the final final end but we still haven't heard what happens if you solve all the riddles and select "It's a trick". And what about different culripts, etc?

Nobody's explained that at all.

>>6725483
Oh Battler...

You poor, poor delusional thing. You just wanted the truth. ;-;

>>6725502
>EVERYTHING was actually a delusion of Battler's mind or the massacre did actually happen?
A massacre did happen, but everything we have seen so far are just Battler's lame attempts at trying to make sense of it.

>>6725490

>>6725502
Battler is just a fiction writer husband of AuAu

So was Bern telling Ange to hate Eva in the Tanabata a delusion too?

>>6725479
>Umineko Rei will make up for all of this

Was there any explanation for what happened in 1998? Did Ange survive and why did everyone want to kill her?

>>6725400
>if boat will crush
Wat

>>6725517
You mean Umineko Tsubasa.

That's its name.

I could make a better ending.

Battler and everyone is dead, but

Ange finds out through investigation that her parents did it to protect her, and that Eva did care about her

Moves on with her life, marries Juuza or whatever.

Fuck AuAu.

WHERE IS MY AMAKUSA BACKSTORY!??!

>Everything was a dellusion
>Red truth happens
>How can you say what is true if is a imaginary world all of it, even the "real" events?
>mfw

One thing I didn't understand was, what the fuck happened to Bern and Lambda? There's been talk of them actually being a cake and a cat, but why the fuck bring Higurashi backstory to them? Was the creator of the Higurashi nightmare supposed to be a piece of cake?

http://atashi.wordpress.com/2010/02/21/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-chiru-episode-5-staff-roll-song-tsuba
sa-ver-hope/
FUCKING LYRICS SPOILED EVERYTHING
I'd put a video, but I've only found spanish subs.

This ending is BS because it discards everything that's been built up until now. There are too many themes introduced that have no purpose whatsoever. What do witches and love and Kinzo's history have to do with lost memory? What?

This isn't just LOG ROLLING, it smells of a fake ending. There's obviously some way to get a good ending that people just haven't found yet. You can't say there's no additional endings when the game has been out for a day.

if
>>6725511
>>6725509
>>6725508
>>6725506

what's wrong with captain Kawabata rescuing all Ushiromiya family, and loadin' all gold on his new hi-speed boat?

>>6725523
Amakusa doesn't exist. He's just a character created for Battler's novels.

Well fuck what's this?
http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=183270

I will not accept this ending.

>>6725502
culprits are confirmed to be Kyrie and Rudolph, pretty much everyone on 2ch is saying so. EP7 was right on the money, because it was Battler's memories clearing up. So everything actually happened, except for all the magic bullshit, which at first was thought to be Hachijo's fiction, and now we know Hachijo was actually Battler's penname while trying to sort out is memories.
Also, if everything meta was a hint to something, couldn't the episode where Battler didn't kill anyone while making his epitaph hint to Yasu wanting to reproduce the epitaph "killing" order, but actually not wanting to kill anyone?

>>6725528
Wait, they find the gold?

Who solves the riddle? The adults again? Eva?

>>6725526
>You’re unable to recall anything
>So struggle for eternity at least

;__;

>>6725525
Higurashi is fiction within Umineko
Juuza is also the actor that plays Hibari 13 in the series

>>6725483
This actually made me tear up.

"It's the story of my love"
"Fantasy entered the reality"
"The next part of my dream is on the boat I can't pull close"

;___; poor poor Battler

Still holding out for Coco's route ending where Beatrice somehow gets better from being dead at the bottom of the ocean, and saves Battler from the Nightmare of the ??? Ending.

>The next part of my dream is on the boat I can't pull close
>The next part of my dream is on the boat
>on the boat

Kawabata confirmed

>>6725490
Oh shi--

>>6725539
>>6725543
and here are the fags who'll lap up this shit and think it's great writing

>>6725522
That's what everyone thought is about to happen although you can throw in "Juuza works for the bad guys and I can trust nobody BAWWW oh wait the bad guys just want my gold, gonna scribble them a paper, here you go, Amakusa likes me anyway so let's marry him and live on his salary - oh wait so you say EVERYONE knows what happened on Rokkenjima except for me and MY PARENTS were the killers is there anyone anymore whom I can communicate? Oh wait Battler should have survived according to E7 Tea Party so... WHERE THE FUCK IS HE? - cue for Ellery Queen" or anything like that

>>6725540
That sounds absolutely stupid. Seriously, Umineko wasn't always the best, but this conclusion is fucking stupid.
How on fucking earth are you supposed to figure out from 1-4 that Battler had amnesia, was rescued by Tohya, became an old man, and that those games were just him trying to figure out what happened. Jesus christ.

>>6725458
Erika was duct tape.

This goes against all what When they cry is about. It isn't real.

>>6725532
Was anything mentioned about Eva and Ange in 1998?

And how is it that Battler and Hachijo haven't been sued or confronted by any of the families mentioned in their stories?

I've been listening to this on loop for the last few hours. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrmr_vHpZI8

>>6725559
Actually, it is all about When They Cry.
Most of the shit you see ends up being delusions of people

>>6725522
I expected an ending like in Himatsubushi-hen, where Akasaka writes a book about theories surrounding Hinamizawa's disaster.

Replace them for "Ange" and "Rokkenjima" and there we go.Yeah Auau does that but fuck her.

>>6725561
They are all dead or illusions.

8 episode for an Amensia plot.

Oh boo fucking hoo, your penis'd maid finally got a good idea and killed him/herself.

Fuck off, Battler.

Seems like there are lots of torrent, all of sudden.

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=183263

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=183268

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=183270

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=183271

Well, Ange could have married the actor who played as Hibari 13.

Why the fuck do people keep saying poor Battler?
Poor the other better characters we grew to love so they could end up dead or maybe nonexistent even.

Last night on the steam:
>HOLY SHIT BEST EPISODE EVER
Now it's:
>WTF IS THIS SHIT? TROLOLOLO

>>6725559
In Higurashi Rei we know is a comatose Rika's delusion

In EP8 is Battler's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loSzpvq73FY

What EP8 should've been

>>6725571
With this ending, what is the point of building up anything, seriously. Why would it fucking matter, they either didn't exist or were dead. Who fucking cares about characterization when they are irrelevant.

ENOUGH

i have no idea if you guys are playing along but what the fuck

stop believing shit /jp/ fake spoilers

>>6725556
>How on fucking earth are you supposed to figure out from 1-4 that Battler had amnesia, was rescued by Tohya, became an old man, and that those games were just him trying to figure out what happened


Listen to the OP song lyrics, it's Battler singing them.

>>6725556
Because the point of the game was figuring out Beatrice's heart: the very truth Battler was trying to remember. Knowing that he was the writer or had amnesia was irrelevant to that.

>>6725524
We were supposed to "Get some closure on the red truth from between Battler and Ange" Or something of that sort.

Gone out of the garage door so far

>7 episodes based on discovering the truth about the massacre little by little
>it was all a dream and Lambda is a cake
King of Trolls

>>6725571
>Poor the other better characters we grew to love so they could end up dead or maybe nonexistent even.
FOOL!
THEY LIVE IN HIS HEART WITH THE LOVE!

>>6725573
That was before "Lambda is a cake" became known.

It's like Ryukishi said: EP8 isn't really an ending. EP7 was the actual ending, and EP8 is just "a story to put an end to everything."

So in the end, EP8 isn't really that important. It's more like something tacked on to the end rather than the culmination of everything.

>>6725586
King of Cake, do you have enough lies?

It can never go away. It can never be undone...

Coincidentally...

If Higurashi had Hanyu, then what is the fantasy element of Umineko? Personifications of dumb shit like rules or power of imagination don't count.

>>6725581
Wow, so it could be solved through the lyrics. Thanks for being useful, the actual games.
>>6725582
So what in the end, was exactly her heart? "I wuv u battler but now everyone has 2 die lol but u can blame it on me in ur stories"

It was all in his head. Everything i know is a lie.

The only thing left for me is oblivion.

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=183263

Looks real.

>People doubting the authenticity of Future Battler
>>6723802
>>6724260
Note how those two screenshots come from different players.

You now realize that Ryukish is Battler

And is still trying to figure out what happened on that day

;_;

>>6725591
So, fags who kept saying Bern trolling and it wasn't true because trolling and all that shit, reading this, are you? Fuck you.

>>6725595
By which logic Natsuhi killed Nanjo in E3 because it's her heart being torn apart by Evatrice, Ryukushi's argument is retarded

>>6725591

Look at this bastard sucking a hack writers left ball hahahaha!

>>6725591
You mean, EP8 is like an omake/fandisk rather than an actual part of the story...?

FUCK

DAMN

IT

>>6725578

Enough of that.

Only autistic waifu loving faggots think that way. CANONICALLY THEY ARE DEAD SO WHAT WAS THE POIIIIINNNNTTTT WAHHHH.

You enjoyed the characters, didn't you? You enjoyed the journey with the rest of us, didn't you? Sure, it's not the ending you invisioned, but if it was the case then why arn't you the writer? Sure, in reality it's bullshit but i absoultely loved every second of umineko. The spoilers (still most stuff isn't confirmed real from ep 8 so much more to go) the discussions, the arguments the characters the mind games, i loved it all.

I regret nothing of these past 4 years. Not a thing. I loved it. It's not the best novel out there, but it was one i could enjoy with /jp/.

Isn't that enough?

No, it's all or nothing with you guys, just stop it will ya?

>>6725603
Poor Ryukishi.

Why'd he have to trick us into believing this shit was a mystery or something though?

Fuck him.

>>6725604
But that doesn't even make sense, because Bern apparently isn't real? Battler remembered what happened at that point I guess.

>>6725603
*Ryukishi, sorry

Despite the shitty ending, I feel terrible knowing that this is the conclusion of it all. It's the same happened with Higurashi, it's like they were real or something.

>>6725608
I don't have any waifu's or anything like that, I was just saying it's stupid. Yes, I can enjoy the journey, but that doesn't mean I should have to accept this shitty ending.

How would you guys react if it ended up that 2ch was just fucking around with us?

>>6725609
>mystery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j9DC8wi7IQ&feature=related
0:13

>>6725540
Fuck. NO.IT.IS.NOT
unless i see a red text for that there is absolutely nothing that confirms or even hints at this seriously, besides for one auto insert joke at the very begining of the very first episode

>>6725485

nope.avi
ill now believe in Ange suicide

>>6725591
>Ryukishi: I can't write an ending, so CHOOSE YOUR OWN END!

OH GOD IT'S LIKE HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE LOST ENDING ALL OVER AGAIN

>>6725615

Id actually be a lot happier than I am right now

>>6725606
I'm not sucking anything, I'm just saying that you guys are overreacting. EP8 just honestly isn't that important.

You're kind of dumb, aren't you?

>>6725614

Exactly. When you enjoy something, you enjoy it through to the very end.
And with an end as shitty as this, really, it ruins a lot of things, especially since all we've known up to this point apparently is fiction and all that crap.

>>6725573

thought exactly the same, the fuck is going on.

well i'm just happy that some of my fav characters are back

>>6725615
I'd not even mad

Wait, so... maybe I missed something. If there are only two endings (Ange Suicide and Amnesiac Battler) and the choice that decides which one you get is whether you pick "trick" or "magic"... what purpose do the puzzles and coin collecting serve?!

>>6725631
There aren't only two endings. Also, /jp/ only has the faintest idea what's going on, as usual.

>>6725626

We already knew that since way back?

>>6725631
Minigame.

>>6725626
>especially since all we've known up to this point apparently is fiction and all that crap.
But we've known that since EP6. Where have you been?

>>6725631

nothing or everything

>>6725609
You know, I can't help but feel like Umineko would have gone down a better path if Ryukishi wasn't so BAWWWWW about BT dying. He probably had a totally different ending in mind, but the reason everything started getting more and more retarded around the time of BT's death was because he scrapped his original plans and decided to just troll us all because OH NOES THE ONLY PERSON I REALLY WANTED TO READ THIS IS GONE NOW BOO HOO.

Fuck you, Ryukishi. Fuck you.

Does Battler even try to meet up with his sister at the end? Is Ange even her real name?!

Are Kasumi and Kyrie the same person?

>>6725631
There is another ending(or endings) where you need to beat the puzzles to get.

>>6725608
I did not enjoy the journey after a certain point cause a great amount of characterizations proves to be bogus/ambiguous. I was hoping the conclusion would more solidly confirm some of it, but it mostly blows it to hell.
The main/plt mystery already went to hell many episodes ago, but after episode 6, characters and interactions were ruined.
So yes, they have EVERY reason to dislike how 1/8th of the sage is and how it affects the overall story.

Okay

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=183270

Genuine, installed episode and started playing

not spoiling anything because it's too fun to watch /a/utists worrying over /jp/fagspoilers

>>6725631
Some people insist that it's important and can allow you to reach some other ending we don't know about.
Let's see what's true after playing the game.

Beatrice's lifeless body floated to the bottom of the ocean. In the moment where her heart stopped; all her life flashed before her eyes. This was the only end for her, the only way to atone for her sins.

But in the corner of dying mind, she heard a voice. It was Battler. "I will take your sin as my own.". These words stuck into her like an icepick.

Her sins were not atoned for. If Battler were to carry her sins; how could she atone for them here?

Then a Miracle happened. Beatrice, who had been dead for the last few seconds, awoke. Her heart stopped beating. Far from drowning, it was the shock that had "killed" her.

Beatrice put all her might into her legs and barely managed to make it out of the water, on a piece of driftwood. Battler's boat was already speeding out into the distance.

Beato held onto the driftwood, until finally another boat approached. Apparently a sea captain had gone out for a nostalgic trip and seen a trail of smoke.

When Beatrice got to Niijima, there was no sign of Battler. Eventually he found Battler had been taken by in by a young woman, who handed him over to her nurse friend that worked at the local hospital.

Battler did not recognise her.

She broke down in tears; now Battler would go on carrying her sin, forever scarred by her death, and not even remember her.

Beatrice spoke with the nurse and the woman.

"Please, help him remember. Help him remember that all that happened, and that I am not dead. Or else it will destroy him without him knowing what it is. When he does, I will return. When he remembers; call me and I will reappear."

If only Beatrice had been a real witch, she could help Battler and truly atone for her sins.

The "nurse" smiled at her.

>>6725639
>Does Battler even try to meet up with his sister at the end?
Nope.
Eva and Ange don't know about his existence.

Tea party of episode 7 wasn't the truth.
It was very close to the truth but what happened was a bit different

まずEP7同様に次男一家がEP1見たいな展開で親族を殺していく
第一の晩で留弗夫と霧江が死んだふりでやり過ごす
第二の晩以降は次男夫婦の片方が実行
もう片方はインゴットを潜水艦の入り江のボートを運び出す
戦人は紗音が両親の犠牲にならないように死んだふり
戦人は次男夫婦に紗音はもう殺しておいたと伝える
逃げていた楼座が金蔵の部屋で銃をＧＥＴ
次男夫婦と楼座のバトル(無双)
相打ちでお互いに死亡
戦人と紗音は次男夫婦たちが死亡した事を知らずに、
見つからないようにと森の中を駆け巡り入り江のボートのところまで走る
館は0時に爆弾で崩壊

BT=BeaTrice

Oh Shi-

>Auau represents R07
>Auau is married with amnesic Battler
>R07 was married with amnesic BaTtler

Now all the homolust makes sense

>>6725615
i would cry the tears of joy

>>6725649
EP7 first son's family will kill your family as well as EP1 to see deployments
Kyrie withstand playing dead husband in the fluoride residue on the first night
The second night after running a couple other son
To carry out the other boats in the bay submarine ingot
Battler play dead to avoid the expense of the parents sound gauze
Sound Battler gauze and kept on killing wife tells the other son
Fri locus gun tower built in the room had fled GET
The couple and their son sitting Battle Tower (Warriors)
Another died in 相打Chi
Sound Battler gauze and it died not knowing their son married,
As far as the running creek boat run through the woods to find and
Hall is destroyed by a bomb at 12:00

>>6725638
>BT

Who is this BT?

>>6725644
Screenshots or get the fuck out.

>>6725632
How do you know that though? You can't! That's just an assumption! We're all fucked, man!

>>6725656
What if the truth is still fucking awful?

>>6725646

fake?

So what happened to the whole gold truth bullshit. We see that appear only once. I assumed we would see it again.

Not to mention we only had one more FUCK YEA moment after that (when beato saves battler) after that shit gets dull.

>people where going to hold out on spoiler threads till WH finishes

Predicting WH cancels its translation out of lack of intrest

>>6725665
how can this be worse than rejecting 4 years of character development?

lolol

>>6725658
One of Ryukishi07's most notable contributors to his "When They Cry" projects, manager of the 07th Expansion website, and a close friend of his.

Anything would be better than this
Even the "Battler's in a coma "theory

>my face when I now wake up from the nightmare, it's Silvester, Umineko is coming out! I guess it's too early for /jp/ to recieve any spoilers yet, but I am still going to be there and chill with all these neets alike!

>also do note you can apparently make even remixes of songs in a dream, interesting, might write a final about that, because that one was really good... but hey, that Umineko scenario was the wildest BS dream I had in last years hands down

>>6725658
His waifu

>>6725669
Yes.

>>6725675
There are more ways to FAIL than to succeed.

Anything would be better than this
Even the coma theory

>>6725665
I'd rather have the usual Shkanontrice DID faggotry before this.

>>6725687
Well duh, it's pretty much the same, everything is in Battler's head, etc.

>>6725636
we knew that Auau was writing up the events that was taking place at the gameboards and releasing them to public in 1998, all of the rest was just theories and speculations

More importantly, have Battler and AuAu fucked? Maybe they're married and they have kids.

>>6725695
And now we know that Battler was the one actually writing them.

>>6725689
fuck yes, i would never think i would say this!

>>6725701
Battler's too obsessed with Beatrice for that.

So, in episode 7 we learned that ep1-2 were written by Yasu and ep3-6 were written by Auau, and now we learn that this very fact was written by Battler?

Battler - Beato and had been hiding for a place to safely survive the explosion when the submarine
Escape by boat from one island to bring the ingot. (Beato is the grandson of Bice
Possibly)
- drowning by jumping from boat to atone for their sins but Beato
Dive into the sea - also died after chasing a game people (which eventually ended in the drowning of this story)
- Yukari Hitoshi 飛Bi降Rizu survival from a building. Give the group the right to Okonogi Miyashiro. (Chi
Scenery painting birds were alive)
Yukari Hisashi becomes big writer - a writer and story of this Sakutarou.


- a meeting that is provided for Yashiro and became famous as a novelist Yukari Hitoshi
They will meet again So Ri.
- who is actually against the island we live? Yashiro was picked up after the drive was launched in
Ru
* People remember only the war had become an obstacle to their age and memory.
He can not remember things that occurred two days on the island which is only for your own
Remembered vividly because, for meeting with Yukari Hitoshi 教Enu to the truth they refuse Yukari Hitoshi
Or.
- The name of the person being picked up from Yashiro against the "eighty. " By the way, "Zyou Yasohati" Toi
Uno is a pseudonym
Yashiro's real name is "Yashiro Ikuko", and Yashiro Battler novelist to come in groups of two so far
Also, what is it "Zyou Yasohati"

-fall all the way, meet you in Beato Eva suddenly appeared, "Please wait time
Digi Battler I was ... "story at the end

I don't really get why you people are so in arms about this. I never got into Umineko much but based on the first few eps it seems like a fitting ending? Hell, if this ending is actually true I might try enduring the other VN episodes for it. I stopped reading them since I was worried they'd pull some kind of retarded magic bullshit, but I'm perfectly fine with a depressing amnesiac ending. It's preferable to a typical /jp/ waifu route ending.

>>6725649
Basically instead of going gung-oh on everyone, Kyrie and Rudolph play dead in the first twilight, and then start the killings
Battler lies to his parents saying he already killed Shannon.
Kyrie and Rudolph fight with Rosa (who escaped previously) and they kill each other.
Battler escapes with Shannon without knowing anything about his parents being dead
Bomb goes off.

Hey...So Yasu/Shannon/Lion is a girl or a boy?

>>6725709
Yes.

>>6725714
So Eva didn't survive?

>>6725728
Yes

>>6725716
Whatever you want it to be hun, its a representation of RKs BT. So if you are a guy it needs to be a guy. If you are a gal it has to be a gal.

>>6725702
i mean the fanfiction didnt include meta world and 1998 world, and we even didnt knew if thats really fanfictions or Auau was she writing up as she sees (yeah yeah, i know mystery fags would never approve but this is a game and nothing ever said there wont be true fantasy elements etc) That aspect was open and it didnt even need to be explained to be honest

>>6725662
It's no more an assumption than you fags jumping on the idea that there are only two endings. I highly doubt there would have been so many puzzles/questions to answer for there to only be two branches. Even Ryukishi wouldn't troll us this hard into thinking the story was a solvable (if incredibly difficult) mystery only to pull this shit on us in the end.

>IWANTTOBELIEVE.JPG

>>6725716
Both and neither.

Your only hope in getting an answer is hoping Tsubasa has a TIP about it or Rei, assuming it'll go anywhere near that topic.

Enjoy your inconsistent fanart and having to dig around to find the doujins of your gender preference.

>>6725735
Sorry for being a newfag here, but what means BT?

>>6725743
BeaTrice
BaTtler

>>6725728
Nothing is said in that paragraph about Eva, so who knows.
either she's dead or they take for granted she survived because of EP4 and didn't think it worth mentioning.

>>6725736
>i mean the fanfiction didnt include meta world
Impossible. Ange commented on a lot of things about the "trial of love thing" even when Amakusa was with her.

>>6725713

I dont think its so much as people want a waifu ending. I think mostly everyone is upset because the ending is what explains EVERYTHING. So everything we were speculating or wanted answers too are shot down. So we will never know for certain about everything.

Tho i can live with the ending as well. I didnt really speculate or tried to solve anything, but I did think about it. But i was just a long for the ride and wanted to see what would happen at the end.

>>6725739

And it's a fucking financial suicide too. And no one on 7th expansions staff questioned him and said "wow, this is really retarded. You built everything up throw away everything interesting at the end?"

Ryukishi is not fucking George Lucas. I hope

>>6725748
well, the trial of love was taking place on the gameboard too, right?

>>6725743
BT was a contributor to the "When They Cry" project and a friend of Ryukishi07's before he died.

I refuse the Amnesiac Battle ending.

I take the alternative.

>>6725754
>7th expansions staff

>>6725743
BT is the name of Ryukishi's waifu and ultimate inspiration + support for writing the When They Cry series. She died between the completion of EP5 and EP6, and Ryukishi has stated that he had "forgotten the joy of writing" since then. Which explains the bullshit in this EP so far.

>>6725760
The entire setup of the trial of love was around the meta world concept otherwise it makes no sense. No way around that.

>>6725764

group, friends, coworkers, acquaintances,

I am so so so so sorry.

>Kyrie and Rudolph fight with Rosa (who escaped previously) and they kill each other.

Rosa confirmed for badass as hinted during Rosa Musou

Lambdadelta is a cake, Y/N?

>>6725768
This isn't a rumor?

If RK was a real man and took his depression on like Tomino this wouldnt happen.

>>6725781
So Rosa is now Batman instead of Eva?

>>6725764
Never more sadly related

And old youngster lefr forever alone does not need a wife to inspire him, he needs her to put him in some fucking shape and forbid him from passing certain borders.
Ryu has nothing such as that now and thus is going hikkikomorri in a year.

Okay guys, I am going to go to work now. When I come back, this is all going to be resolved and everything is going to make sense. Understood?

>>6725774
what about meta in a meta?

Apparently Will and Lion got a happy ending together or something, but we still don't know his gender

Ryukishi is now in front of a giand BT portrait drinking absinth and singing oh desire

>>6725804
What about Diana ;_;

>Amnesic Battler remembers
>Writes EP6
>Auau: HEY MIKO IMOUTO READ THIS SHIT WILL YA?

Huh

>>6725804
>Apparently Will and Lion got a happy ending together or something
Inside Battler's head, you mean.

>>6725774

Its just part of the story battler wrote.

>>6725809

Bern's true form

>>6725811

Hahaha you are trying to find logic in the broken down heart of a horrible writter hahahahaha!

YO DAWGH WE HERD YO LIKE META SO WE'VE PUT FICTION IN YO FICTION AND AMNESIA IN YO AMNESIA AND AUTISM IN YO AUTISM SO YO CAN SELF-INSERT WHILE YO SELF-INSERT

Eh, I'm surprisingly okay with it. I wasn't expecting more than a Battler+Ange survive ending, maybe Battler+Yasu at the very most. And it's understandable that Battler would be traumatized from it - Eva never got over it either.

At least Ange got her brother back, even if he's still broken from the disaster.

>>6725806
OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH BT
WHY!? WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DIE IN MY ARMS!?!?
YOU DIDN'T EVEN GET TO READ MY MASTERPICE!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH

>>6725806
Well, it seems pretty obvious that the accurate narration of Battler's feelings reaching for Beato drowning is actually R07's suicidal thoughts about following BT to his grave.

Who here is in no way surprised this had a shitty ending?

NOBODY would care about this story if it didn't have lolis and good music.

I WISH I WAS JAPANESE AND WROTE TERRIBLE STORIES WITH CRAPPY DRAWINGS SO PEOPLE WOULD GIVE ME ALL THEIR MONEY AND JACK OFF TO HOW GOOD IT IS, EVEN WHEN ITS NOT. EASIEST JOB EVER.

>>6725784
It's true. BT was essentially Ryu's best friend, the reason he started writing When They Cry to begin with, and the manager of the 07th Expansion website. He died, I believe, between EP4 and 5, and Ryukihsi posted a blog entry full of bawww at how he forgot the joy of writing but swore he'd keep going and writing the story in the name of BT's memory.

Which was clearly bullshit because the story went downhill almost immediately after that. If I were BT I'd be rolling in my grave at this ending.

this breaks my heart

>>6725823
>At least Ange got her brother back
Yeah... 24 years later.

>>6725804
>>6725804
>>6725804
If they get anything BUT a happy ending together I'm going to personally fly to Japan and punch R07 in the dick.

Tea Party is meta world. Meta world is real.

Cake was a fake spoiler.

/r/ umineko EP8 spoiler guide

>>6725822
He just wanted to self-insert in BT's ass ;_;

So Umineko was a true story, and Ryukishi was Battler all along. My condolences about his family tragedy.

>>6725837
本編の主人公は恋人二回も失って記憶喪失ENDだってのにウィルさんあっさり
HAPPY ENDとかマジハンパねえな

So... amnesiac Battler is supposed to be our "bittersweet" ending? Or is there still an ending that has yet to be unlocked?

>>6725862
Amnesiac end = ???? party

Ｈｅｌｌｏ　ｆｏｒｅｉｇｎ　ｆａｎｓ，
Ｉ　ｈｏｐｅ　ｙｏｕ　ｅｎｊｏｙｅｄ　ＥＰ8．　Ｉ　ｗｒｏｔｅ　ｉｔ
　ｗｉｔｈ　ｍｙ　ｈｅａｒｔ．　Ｒｅｍｅｍｂｅｒ　ｔｈａｔ　ｉｔｓ　
ａ　ｓｔｏｒｙ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｌｏｖｅ．　Ｉｆ　ｉｔ　ｌａｃｋｓ　ｌ
ｏｖｅ，　ｉｔ　ｃａｎｎｏｔ　ｂｅ　ｓｅｅｎ，　ｔｈｅｙ　ｓａｙ．
　
Ｒｅｇａｒｄｓ，
－Ｒｙｕｋｉｓｈｉ　07

>>6725830

Pretty much this, I dont know why or how you fags still care. Digging through a pile of shit for a speck of gold is really depressing.

>>6725862
It's the true end

Time to play the fighter game and forget about EP08.

When Ryuishi Cry
a new SN by 07th expansion

Those gold medals must do something. Like unlocking epilogue or something.

>>6725862
Apparently, some say amnesiac Battler is the ????

>>6725823
Same here.

>>6725867
Because shippings.
Fujoshi don't need a good story to enjoy something, just enough to ship.

There is a reason why male readers deserted Umineko ages ago

>they think that amnesiac Battler and suicidal Ange are the only endings!

protip: there are more than 2 endings

>>6725868

"there's another better ending" is the new "wait for ep 8 where the motive will be explained"
I give /jp/ a few days and then it'll be all "but it'll be all properly explained in Umineko Rei!"
denial full throttle

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment - Emperor of Mankind 40k

When Fans Cried

>>6725843
prove it, so i can stop eating sweets and getting fat

>>6725876
Nice job showing proof of them.

>>6725878

sadly, this will most likely happen.

Umineko 1-7 > Higurashi 1-7

Higurashi 8 >>>>> Umineko 8

And matsuri was pretty bad...

Would you read When they Cry 5, if it ever comes out?

If Rifyu wrote EP6-8 things will be very different arround here.

Believe in teh rei.

It will all be explained.

>>6725889

i'm going to say no, but i know i would.

>>6725886
And I will enjoy every bit of my denial. ;_;

>>6725887
i dont get why you guys say it was bad... but i only seen anime

>>6725880

Ryukishi is not a survivor

So ep 1-4: Original star wars

5-8: prequels

>>6725885
Not the same guy, but is there proof that there are only 2 endings?

Like, has Japan really gone through the whole game each possible way, with the logic puzzles and the question about magic and tricks?

Not a denialfag necessarily, just skeptical. I'd be fine if someone would give us some damn screenshots.

>>6725890
>Implying Rifu isn't Ryukishi
Oh you

>>6725891
Not really. The new game is pretty much all of the extra TIPS collected into one.

Am I the only one here who's not mad as fuck?
It's not like we were reading serious literature or something. I read Umineko for the bullshit and that's exactly what I got

And it seemed so fucking awesome in the middle...

>>6725905
But 5 and 7 are pretty good.

More like

Odd episodes = Originals
Even episodes = Prequels

Lambda being a cake spoiler is probably true since it kinda makes sense given her design and some of the comments about her.
Bern being a cat was obvious

>>6725889
Even with this pretty shitty ending(even if we get a much better, happier ending, Amnesia Battler is the true one if it's the ????), it doesn't mean that I didn't enjoy the rest of Umineko. So, I probably will.

>>6725906
They can't give you screenshots about something that doesn't exist.

>>6725906
There are no screenshots indicating that they have found any other ones.
Everything I got earlier was from either http://loda.jp/when_they_cry_3/ or http://loda.jp/umineko/ and as you can see the latest updates happened a few hours ago.

What about we forgot about all this and read something is not WTC like Higanbana?

Ryuukishi can't be this bad!

>>6725866
Guys.
If japs are collectively saying that this episode is bad and they loved the shit out of every other one, that means that... on the whole... the episode must be HORRIBLE, right?

It's like not even the fangirls ship it anymore. Only Rifyu is drawing but that's Ryukushi so he doesn't really count.

>LET'S FIGHT FOR A HAPPY END FOR BEATRICE

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

R07 you bloody dog.

>>6725924
But I thought Japan has shit taste no matter what?

i'm going to come back in three hours and there's going to be screencaps from a better ending

r-right?

;_;

FUCKING TORRENT WHERE

>>6725930
They have better taste than the wester base for sure, look at the highest rated in Japan and in the west.

>>6725921

Sure bro, because we all know how amazing Ryu is outside of WtC.

Was there any explanation for Kyrie's craziness?

>>6725933
Take your pick.
http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=183263

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=183270

First is by #Comiket.

>>6725938
>He still thinks R07 actually work on Okamikakushi!

>>6725930
My point exactly. They hype anything.

If they are not hyping this, then it's either TOO DEEP or unimaginably bad.

>>6725924
It's not really everyone saying it's bad.
about half are saying it was huge waste of time, belittling mystery stories
other half are saying it was quite underwhelming but they were fine with it

>>6725916
awfuck, i smell like roses and my skirt and t-shirt are kinda reddish..i must me a fucking flower then noooooooooooooo ;__________;

>>6725916

So explain to me how their back-stories fit into this?

They don't. At all.

If this end is true 3/4 of Umineko was utterly pointless crap with no significance.

You know what? The more I look at future Battler's design, the more I like it.

>>6725924
Is Rifyu really?

>Go to work everyday
>It's actually the metaword
>You're actually a butterfly
>mfw

>When They Fly

>>6725958
thats what we are raging about

see what umineko Chiru gave
NOW IMAGINE IT AS ANIME BY DEEN
AHAHA.WAV

>>6725941
Battler's delusions

>>6725866

>>6725958
Battler says he read Higurashi. He mixed up these two characters based on Rika and Takano with the other meta characters.

Wait, so what ended up happening with the purple text? Was there a definitive "culprit"?

>Go to Pixiv
>All Umineko fanart is Siestas celebrating new year

Dammit japan

I think there should be an unwritten rule that if you're going to write a crappy story, you should at least end it with a satisfying ending as salvage value.

This is called going overboard to make your idea unique.

He could have continued down a path like EP1-4, I'd even be cool with 5, and it would have been a thought provoking and just generally good story.

Instead we get this pseudo-intellectual, "Nature of reality" Inception bullshit because Ryukishi compiled far too many goddamn ideas into his smorgasbord of fucking stupid.

Oh well, perhaps he'll recon the core arcs, and start over when he revives his lost love.

Your face when you realise Battler had white hair all along, and was only visualising himself with red hair because he thought he was Asumu's son.

>>6725975
That is bullshit. If this is true fuck Ryukishi.

Fucking cake and cat and Higurashi and delusions.

Where is my Coco's route?

>>6725977
>there is the choice of "pick the culprit" on the screen with Bern
>when you click it she makes a hurrface
>turns out there is no culprit
>what the fuck am I collecting these for

>>6725992
>inception
you mean paprika

>>6725977
I'm starting to think Purple Text and Minigames were japanese fakes and the only real choice is "magic or trick"

>>6725977
What's the point of a culprit, even within the fiction, it was a fiction. We're getting double pointless.

>oh so you guys like all those meta characters?
>sorry bot they don't exist!
>it was all in Battler's head!
>and if you don't like it you lack love you filthy mongrels!

I hope Ryukishi gets raped by gay marines.

So, what's the main difference between EP7's Tea Party and reality?

>>6726003
Sounds about right.

And the correct answer makes Ange kill herself, I'd be mad if I wasn't relishing the thought of all those people screaming that Umineko was easy to understand yesterday.

So if this story has 2 endings what is the not Amnesiac ending?

I think it has to be better than this clusterfuck.

>>6726009

He would dress up as Shannon and thoroughly enjoy it.

How do we know that's not what he does on slow days, anyway?

>>6726016
EP7's tea party was good

>>6725999
>inb4 a special culprit + goldmedal combination leads to a secret end.
Yeah, sure.

>>6725975
oh yeah, and George has a T-shirt with Tomitake flash written on it, so what?
fuck, I would bet all of my mangas and games that in the August 2007 RYUUKISHI 07 had no idea how will the end of Umineko look like, so theres no point explaining things at this point wit stupid auto ads

>make amusing mysteries for 3/4 of all the episodes
>disregard everything put some cake and amnesia
I feel so used

>>6726020
Everyone tells the truth rather bluntly in Ange's face. She decides the Red Truth and the world is wrong, and decides to create her own Red Truth with her blood, and thus she kills herself.

I seriously can't remember a bigger "fuck you" to the fanbase. Ever.

>>6726003
>Minigames were japanese fakes
Dunno about purple text but there were a lot of fucking puzzles. I doubt they were a fake.

>>6726020
Goats with Ange-schooloutfit show up, she gets insane, suicide, THE END.

>>6726029
Sounds good to me. I declare this the official ending in the name of /jp/.

>>6726020
So far if the spoilers are true, there's this trainwreck amnesia end, and the stereotypical bad end if you choose Trick rather than Magic, where Ange kills herself.

Ironically, the answer to the question is without a doubt trick, but you need to disregard logic and bend to the authors mighty will to get the awesome amnesia end.

New thread: >>6726048

Why so mad, /jp? Don't tell me you actually expected witches and meta-world to be real.

>>6726055
why the hell not faggot?

>>6726025

Such things meant nothing. Back when AuAu was believed to be a genuine witch people theorized how she recorded many witch games and published them as novels.

Then suddenly "sorry it was all fiction".

Wow.
Some people love this ending.
This ending that throws all of the characterization and events in Umineko out the window.
Are you fucking kidding me Ryukishi?
I'm not going to fucking accept something I enjoyed so much, to end like this.
This is supposed to be a mystery. Something you can figure out for yourself.
This ending is completely out of the blue. These puzzles are irrelevant to the plot, but yet they decide the ending.
What.the.fuck.
I'm just done with this shit if all of this is true.

>>6725900
get out.

>>6725905
Wat.

2 was pretty good, 4 was great once the Ange/Maria backstory bullshit was over, and 6 gets a lot of flack but honestly I think I had the most fun reading it out of any EP 7 revealed a lot, but it wasn't terribly enjoyable to read on the whole.

>>6725962
He got a sprite? I haven't seen screencaps yet

I'm sorry none of the shit everyone is talking about makes sense to me, I don't get this ep 8 info.
I've been folllowing along since ep 7.
I thought I'd wait but I couldn't take it and decided to see some ep 8 spoilers, but none of this shit makes sense.
I went to /a/, and now I got lead to here to get answers but now its becoming more of a cluster fuck. Can someone, anyone explain what happened in ep 8 that has made everything so crazy?