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>>6651043
George is a bigger dick.

Also,
>culprit.png

Kinzo is a dick.

>>6651043
Well played, Battler

>>6651043
Op's a dick, at least make sure he doesn't have blonde eyes.....

>>6651048
george is also a pussy.
dick+pussy=culprit.

But Battler will marry Shannon, he's not a dick!

>>6651059
>blonde eyes

>>6651062

Battler is in love with Meta-Beato, not the penis-less version of herself

>>6651063
blue. fuck off fan-fiction.

>EP4 and EP6 George magic martial arts
>come EP7, fails to land one hit

>>6651074
Sugoi.

>>6651076
7 = truth
4 = only see head shot.
6 = owned by mom

>>6651076
While being severely wounded, right?

>>6651076
That's what happens when we hit reality, bro.

>>6651082
6 = Eva had an abortion, George never left her womb!

>>6651086
At least Jessica managed to fight back in EP7.

>>6651057

His mother died and felt betrayed by his dad give him a break.

Reposting my own post because the last thread died before anyone really saw it:

So wait, if Kinzo really was the one that suggested stealing the Italian gold in the first place (like that one screen near the end of the Tea Party showed), who's to say the others didn't lie to Will as well? How can we even be sure Italian Beatrice ever loved Kinzo? Maybe he was a nutcase that kidnapped her and kept her on the island.

Rudolf is a dick

amakasu = battler
eva = locked story, knows about amakasu. hides the story.
kyrie's sister= kyrie or force behind the 86 murders aside of shkanontrice.

>>6651090

She just evaded a bullet

Beside, Jessica is not fat.

>>6651096
>So wait, if Kinzo really was the one that suggested stealing the Italian gold in the first place (like that one screen near the end of the Tea Party showed), who's to say the others didn't lie to Will as well? How can we even be sure Italian Beatrice ever loved Kinzo? Maybe he was a nutcase that kidnapped her and kept her on the island.


There are no reason to think Kinzo lied in his story

>>6651096
>can't accept interracial relationships.
>>>/int/
>>>/new/

>>6651101
But Amakusa appears in Higurashi, it's unlikely he's Battler.

>>6651090
The only consistent badass.

Problem, Shannon?

>>6651096
I think it's more like Kinzo omitting information than Kinzo lying.

>>6651096
>>6651096
>>6651096
>>6651096
arg. so slow man....
kinzo story is real confession cause it was in the chapple where auau, bern, and everyone else were gathering the facts.
tea party was just bern taking those facts (probably given by auau) and weiving her spin on it cause auau wanted more info.

>>6651103
In R07's work EVERYONE is fat.

>>6651115

I found Shannon boring at first, but the i realized how much shit the world trowt at her and i bawwwed ;_;

I hope Jessica kick George in the ball or something.

>>6651090
>>6651114
4: Magic fistfight with Ronove
6: Kyrie vs FIRE.
7: Ryukishi doesn't narrate

good thing i didn't delete this.
>guy you like forgets you
>lesbein or fat
>commit mass murder

>>6651120

Will and Leon aren't

>>6651120
But George is actually canon fat.

>>6651127
kanon is not fat too, stated in story

Am I the only one who hates Ange?
I mean, I understand her motivations and everything, but I can't stand her.

>>6651123
You are now remembering this from the Game Master BATTLER TIP:

■ George
I'd like a peaceful and loving depiction of how the romance between me and Shannon started. The scene still hasn't been shown in the original work, after all.
It happened on the day of the traditional family conference. I wonder how many years ago it was. Haha, remembering it makes me feel a bit embarrassed.
That day, I had been wearing a hat. It was blown away by a strong wind and went flying away on the beach.
At that moment, Shannon showed up. We went to go search the beach together for the hat.
We just couldn't find it anywhere, no matter how many times the two of us scoured the beach searching for it.
We never found it. But it would've been boring to just search for it in silence. We conversed with each other the whole time.
That was when...I heard that she longed to go see an aquarium.
By coincidence, I had a friend who was a curator. I arranged it so that just the two of us could specially visit the aquarium on one of the days it was closed.

I apologized to her for two things.
One was that I wouldn't get to show her the crowds of people at the aquarium.
The other was that...I hadn't actually been wearing a hat in the first place. (Kira☆)

>>6651131
no ange is the best.

>>6651131
Love Ange, sorry.

>>6651132
>The other was that...I hadn't actually been wearing a hat in the first place. (Kira☆)
FUCKING GEORGE

>>6651131

Hated her in ep IV, neutral in to her in ep VI, fucking bawww'ed in ep VII

>>6651132
actually remembered that before, also why i suspected george hiding the letter to begin with.

In the early episodes, why does Krauss have a bar of gold pre-reunion already? Did Yasu give it to him? Could it mean she's struck some kind of bargain with Krauss?

>>6651112

When does this happen?

>>6651148
Amakusa was Hibari 13

>>6651150


Those are some sexy pages


Sauce?

>>6651146
Kinzo took a gold bar to his contractors, and Krauss managed to find it.

>>6651112
>>6651112
>>6651112
>>6651112
this guy

I'm so hoping Umineko ends with a manly fist fight either between Battler and George or Battler and Jessica. Shit would be so cash.

>>6651160
>so cash.
WHAT YOU WANT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

>>6651155
2ch, from a while ago.

>>6651131
You aren't alone, bro
I hate her with all my fuckin' soul, I almost dropped umineko on Ep 4 just by her, I couldn't stand her at all

>>6651160
I still remember when we all thought Van Dine was going to be a loveless asshole who would face off with Endless Sorcerer Battler.

Welp.

>■ Natsuhi
>The story has been quite turbulent until now, so this time I would like a calm romance story aimed towards adults.
My husband throws a snowball at me, and when I catch it and split in apart...I find an engagement ring inside. Kya ☆

HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

So, servant Shannon is Yasu's imaginary friend (personalized memory of someone from fukuin) or something? Also, KAWAII

>>6651114
>badass

ahahaha.wav

Although ok I guess she was agaisnt Kyrie so its inevitable.

>>6651172
>servant Shannon is Yasu's imaginary friend
Yes.

>(personalized memory of someone from fukuin
Probably not? Yasu didn't actually have any friends, thus Shannon.

I wonder what face will Kyrie make when she finds out that Rudolf had lied to her and that Battler is her son.

>>6651167

Will is a bro between the bros

HE LOSES AN ARM FOR A TRAP HE MEET 2 HOURS AGO, ALL FOR THE HEART

>>6651177
I almost think she already knows or suspects, but can't accept the implications, so it only serves to fuel her rage.

>>6651177

Probably a calm one. Considering she's a robot.

>>6651177

Would it really matter to her, though? She clearly stated kids are nothing but binds to her and that she doesn't care about Ange.

>>6651177
>I wonder what face will Kyrie make when she finds out that Rudolf had lied to her and that Battler is her son.

She probably doesn't give a fuck

>>6651186
>>6651185
>>6651177
I suspect kyrie doesn't know. she's probably not as EVIL as bern made her to be in 7 and battler=true son might play a factor in 8. probably tipping the scales against kyrie and leading to battler/eva living and her dying.

>>6651177
>I wonder what face will Kyrie make when she finds out that Rudolf had lied to her and that Battler is her son.
If you go by ep 7's tea party she knows already, as Rudolf states it as a matter of fact right before he leaves to face Battler. She just doesn't consider him her son because Asumu was the one who reaped all the benefits.

Reading through Belze, Asmo, yasu and a key disappearing from a key ring right now. Yasu just switched Berune's ring with his 2-key one and had one key placed in Berune's locker beforehand, right?

god you guys are so easily trolled.
main story, straight information from fragments.
tea party - bern's story/twist made from what she knows.
???? shows that the other two are at the request of auau

>>6651179
Fucking GAR, man.

>>6651205
it's up to you. that's pretty much what i got.
prepare your key to swap, put yours in her locker, switch.

>>6651205
yep

So, what are you expecting of EP8?

I hope that Rudolf's backstory gets explained, and that Asumu isn't a copypasta of Kyrie's body with Jessica's face and different hair color.

Ep VIII sceens fucking where?

>>6651206

Yeah, ep VII was all a lie, sure

>>6651253
no all, but some are obvious lies. No red either, just cause it doesn't have lolmagic doesn't mean it's real.

>>6651265
>obvious lies
Explain.

>>6651265
>some are obvious lies.
Such as?

>>6651269
>>6651266
like i said in the last thread, rosa wouldn't think 300m was too little. in EP 2 there were multiple gold blocks and she took only one.

>>6651266
>>6651269
bern also left battler's fat undecided cause she does not know the truth about him.

>>6651272
Maybe because she was in a fucking HURRY because a BOMB was going to explode, anything more would have slowed her down too much
The simple fact that she ran to the church to take a lingot losing time in the process show her greedy nature.

>>6651269
>>6651266
also nothing was proven in red, none of it was supported with evidence.

>>6651273
Ange was watching. Bernkastel wouldn't have shown her Battler surviving.

>>6651275
>he still thinks you can only trust the red text

>>6651274
never said she wasn't greedy, she's not a saint. I just said that 300m would be more than enough for her given what when know from the main story and not a tea party by bern.

>>6651272
Remember that Rosa didn't hold Maria's hand while running away from the bomb. She was holding the ingot.
Rosa is fucking greedy.

>>6651281
no even the red could be lied with. it's just that bern's story is one sided like in 5 and you gobble it up, there is no one to argue it. bern's red was covered by ange's scream on purpose, if you flip back after she yells it's not there.

>>6651282
A lingo is heavy, when you want to run away from a bomb you don't take things that can just slow you down.
Honestly you just fail at looking at things from a logical point of view.

>>6651283
see
>>6651282

also kyrei kills everyone, but misses a point blank shot and doesn't make sure?
doesn't take the guns?
eva beating out kyrei in gun match when she didn't know how one works properly less than an 6hrs ago?

bern is just half assing it with information given to her by others.

>>6651282
Pure greed is only part of the issue. A big part of it was "like hell I'm going to lose out on what's mine just because Eva's a bitch who doesn't want to go to jail for shooting Natsuhi in the face."

>>6651282
in episode 2 she had to escape, here she would have to give up 20 billions just because Eva is afraid of going to jail. It's been shown time after time that Rosa feels inferior to her siblings and is always trampled by them, so this was her occasion of saying fuck you to her instead of being controlled by her siblings like always.
Simple as that. There's no "obvious lies", aren't you just wishful thinking that because you like Rosa?

>>6651298
no, rosa is meh. also never said she wasn't greedy everyone is, just that 10m is enough. 300m is more than enough, bern just twisted the story cause she's trolling and bsing.

>>6651291
>misses a point blank shot
The shot wasn't point blank and the rifles don't quite fire straight, as stated several times.

>>6651306
I think it's completely coherent with Rosa's portrayal so far and nothing says how much gold she would think is "enough", but believe what you will, I can't stop you.

>>6651306
Bern says this when she's alone and talking to herself.

>>6651306
You are forgetting that Rosa is the type of people who does not like to work.
If you earn 300 million, it isn't enough to live without working the rest of your life.

Rosa's business is going to bankrupt, remember? If she could, she would abandon it and finally live as she wants. 300 million isn't enough for that. If she has the oportunity to earn 10 billion instead of 300 million, she will take it.

>>6651320
she's implying that she hasn't got a chance to create the worse end possible, cause she was giving her interperation of the truth to auau. Bern's "game mastering" would be like 5, but more twisted

also it's just a mix of games 3 and 4 but doesn't match either.

>>6651281
>thinks he can trust bern without red.
>thinks he can trust bern even with the red.

>>6651320
anything by bern is not to be trusted. she lies with the red just for the lulz. you think she would give a truth she doesn't know?

>>6651177
How the fuck could she not already know? Are you suggesting that she forgot about having her genitals torn asunder by a screaming baby?

>>6651320

I loved Bern in this episode, i wish she'd GM'ed everything

>>6651360
that guy (not me) is implying that the babies were switched.

it's cause women get "torn asunder" by said "screaming babies" that the babies can be switched after they give birth.

It's not about thrusting Bern, it's about thrusting Will who reached the truth with ep I-IV

>>6651371
I'd thrust Will anyway

>>6651367
who doesn't love bern? best character in the story. it's just that she almost never tells the real truth.

>>6651367
Yeah, Bern was at her best this episode. I think it helps that she somehow has much better chemistry with Will and Lion than she did with Battler and Beatrice.

>>6651321

But she can't anymore with Krauss dead. She doesn't have the links to convert the gold into cash. So she didn't have a choice other than the 300mil anyways. she's just short sighted and stupid

>>6651371
I'd let Will thrust me, if you know what I mean.

>>6651371
bern only thrusts.

>>6651371
I'd thrust Will anyday

>>6651380
Yeah, she didn't realize that they couldn't convert the gold into money.

ITT: stupid bernfags want to believe her side is true.
real bern followers would know her "heart" - that she lies to the max for maximum trolling

>>6651360
In one of the previous eps she says her first baby died, so it's thought that her baby lived and was switched with Asumu's baby, which would be the one that died, explaining the problem with Battler's mom. Many think Kyrie doesn't know because she'd kill Rudolf if she knew. Since Rudolf says he'll die soon he may have told Kyrie right before or during the reunion.

>>6651380
Krauss is not the only one on Earth who can do that. It was the only one out of the four siblings, but if push came to shove and she had to ask external help, I have no doubt she could find lots of shady people willing to exchange her gold.

>>6651391

This.

>>6651391
It's not about being a Bernfag, it's about looking at what's presented and thinking it makes technical sense with what we know and what's been built up. I don't think anyone actually thinks you can take what was presented at simple face value, especially with Will raging about how it had no heart.

why would you hate ange? she is the moest. i would kill all the ushiromiyas to have her live (eva included)

>>6651401
>bern's tea party made sense.
>not just trolling
it's clear she took ALL of the humanity from every adult there. everything was motivated by greed.
Is there truth? yes, bern HAS to tell some truth you should realize from 5 that she mixes truth and lies to exploit others (tea party 7 is basically umineko 5's natushi end made by bern) kyrie can very well be COMPLETELY INNOCENT.

Wasn't EP7 supposed to be the "climax"?
If it's just Bern trolling, then what's EP7's purpose? Homolust?

The music was so godly in this episode

>>6651429
It's just delusional faggots who can't accept that their pet character did jack shit in this episode and so you have TRUE BERN FANS REALIZED IT'S TORRLING XD.

>>6651429
>Homolust?
Hey, I'm more or less okay with that.

>>6651429
The climax was in the end of episode 5.

>>6651435
>It's just delusional faggots who can't accept that their pet character did jack shit in this episode and so you have TRUE BERN FANS REALIZED IT'S TORRLING XD.

Because she was trolling

Ask to Ange. Or Lion. Or Claire.

>>6651435
I don't really understand what people are proposing must have happened instead. ACCIDENTS?

Especially since it's pretty much a given that the episode dedicated to Ange is going to finally explain Kyrie to us.

>>6651439
Didn't R07 that the climax was EP7 and that EP8 would be an epilogue?

>>6651454
EP6 resolves Beato and Battler's story, EP7 resolves the mystery, EP8 will resolve something else and be akin to an epilogue or such, yeah.

So, who do you think is going to be EP8's GM? Battler promised loli-Ange a heartwarming truth, Bern said she'd have fun being an ass.

>>6651459
Diana, who gets fed up waiting for Will to come home.

If EP8 is really going to have choices, it's reasonable to assume there will be some kind of a tragic end for bernfags to masturbate to as well as a happier, not as horrible end. Still, if there is more than one possible ending, which one will be considered "canon"?

Suddenly, story time.
1/17

>>6651475
2/17

>>6651478
3/17

>>6651480
4/17

>>6651482
5/17

>>6651475
Looking kinda Rance there, Battler

>>6651484
6/17

>>6651488
That was 7/17

Here's 6/17

>>6651493
8/17

>>6651498
9/17

>>6651502
10/17

>>6651508
11/17

>>6651511
12/17

>>6651514
13/17

>>6651515
14/17

>>6651519
15/17

>>6651523
16/17

>>6651525
17/17
The end.

>>6651465

Which Fate Stay Night route is canon?

Yeah, it kind of pisses me off. I hope there's a "True" End.

So, /jp/

I've been trying to find the full ending song from Ep 7, but I haven't had any luck.

Does anyone know where to find it?

>>6651539
>>6651465
It'd be in the spirit of thinsg so far if it's completely up to the reader to choose his own true end and the reality of the island is never explained, essentially leving the reader to be a bottle forger himself.

>>6651465
Wait until people start arguing over which is the "true end", the "good end" and the "bad end".

Shitstorms incoming.

>>6651549

It's going to be delicious

The choice will be a shitty "choose the culprit" forkroad in which pretty much everyone on the island explains his reason for being the murderer.
So since anyone could have done it /big part of EP7 message), it's ultimately up to you to decide who the true culprit is.
Cue shitstorms that will never end because my culprit > you're culprit, Umineko discussions going on for months, Ryukishi achieving his goal of lasting popularity while having written a shitty copout ending.

>>6651549

I just love how seakitties fans never agree on ANYTHING

>>6651542

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3hZacCjwQ8

I still believe in Ryukishi. After all, he made Shkannon look good.

>>6651577
No, he made Yasu looks good. ShKanon aka dressing as them both with nobody realizing anything is just a shitty plot device.

>>6651465
If there are multiple endings, one of them is usually called the "true end".

>>6651567
Thanks, but isn't that just the one in the BGM3 folder?

>>6651583
That's only when there are routes. Games that simply have different ends have no "true end" unless it's said otherwise.

>>6651588
All the ones I can think of have a "true end", but whatever, I am not that knowledgeable about games.

>>6651580

Well, to be honest, Genji, etc probably knew.

Natsuhi is insane and Krauss doesn't give a fuck.

I doubt the other care about Shannon or Kanon to much to look to further into the thing, especially because no one ever see them together.

well, as far as r07 is concerned higurashi's true end is the one in the ps3 thing no one ever translated nor cares about so...

Man, I don't particularly like Jessica, but that scene with Kyrie was fucking cruel.

Fuck man, what the shit Kyrie?

>>6651613

No, it's not.

>>6651614

Whe's insane, didn't you read ep IV and VI

>>6651613
i wouldn't put it past him to just make a stupidly happy ending like that again and a tragic one... just to ofhandedly remark that "LOL SAD IS TRUER". Shitty way out is shitty.

>>6651614
I don't know man, this episode increased my suspicion of Jessica, that is if we don't get a CLUE ending(they all did it).

I think Kyrie was just doing her job, FOR AMERICA!

Now I sorta don't get it.

>>6651637
Yasu is a crazy bitch.

Moments after Jessica came off the phone and was all YO S/KANON GREAT NEWS BROTTLER IS COMING BACK, Yasu got sand in her mangina and went nuts.

>>6651636
>a CLUE ending(they all did it)
That's actually an Orient Express ending

>>6651646
>YO S/KANON GREAT NEWS BROTTLER IS COMING BACK, Yasu got sand in her mangina and went nuts.
Umineko plot in a nutshell

>>6651650
Well, not so, because the OE ending is heroic, or at least morally gray enough for Poirot to not give a shit.

The Clue ending is "WELL THEY'RE ALL A BUNCH OF SCUMBAGS"

>>6651637
Yasu was ready to go away with George. If Battler had come earlier, she'd have gone with Battler. If Battler had come later, she'd already have been with George. But Battler came back right on the day George was gonna propose, and Yasu realized she still had feelings for him and, not being able to decide by herself, decided to let the roulette do the talking.

>>6651656
fair enough

>>6651662
Am I the only one who really thinks Yasu is a fucking drama whore?

Also, the fuck did she drag Jessica in it?

>>6651669
No you aren't.

Alright, let's cut the George hate for a bit.

Yes, he is paranoid about Battler stealing Shannon from him. But you know what? He's absolutely right. His waifu WOULD INDEED be stolen from him, hell, even him coming back on the day George proposed was enough to put Shannon into indecision.

I can't blame him for hiding the letter, but I think someone else caused that.

George has no motive for the roulette itself, he is just acting to avoid getting NTR'd.

To call him a culprit or even a dick is a bit much, from his perspective he's just trying to avoid becoming a cuckold.

>>6651669

In his defense, he fell off a cliff when he was like 1,it must have damaged his brain pretty badly

Yasu didn't drag Jessica in, why do you think Kanon didn't want to be with Jessica.

>>6651681
The roulette involved everyone on the island, so yeah she dragged Jessica and everyone else

>>6651669
It's in the blood. She needed a solution to a near-impossible love and it just happens she knows firsthand her dad solved his impossible love problem by waging everything on a crazy riddle, and otherwise lived his life to the fullest by knowing he could blow himself up with a fair chunk of his island if one of his bets failed.

>>6651681
Not the love interest, but rather, the whole killing thing.

Listen, here's the rub, the theory and pretty much canon idea is that Yasu is in a love triangle with George and Battler, with day X being the OH SHI- day for Indecision.

If Battler comes before day X, he wins, fucks the shit out of Yasu. If Battler came after day X, George gets that honor. Day X causes Yasu to become indecisive, but how is Jessica even remotely involved?

She obviously is the weakest romantic link of the four people(hell episode 6 had her spell out that it really was just a crush, in a rather mature way), so why does she get the dubious honor of getting blown to kingdom come?

Same thought with all the others on the island, but still...

>>6651680
George and Shannon weren't dating then. He has no excuse for what he did.

>>6651680
it feels more to me like he was stealing someone's elses girl than trying not to get his girl stolen, at least at the beggining. that said, i do feel a bit sorry for him.

>>6651685
It's not her/his lives to wager, though. Really, can't you see how(beyond fucking stupid) heartlessly selfish such a decision is?

>>6651684

Well, maybe if Natsuhi didn't trow him off a cliff, George didn't lie about the letters, Battler didn't make him false promises, people didn't bully him for being underdeveloped he wouldn't have turned insane.

As Clair said, pretty much everyone toyed with his life.

>>6651693

YOU HAVE NO LOVE YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T SEE THE HEART SO YOU CAN'T EVER SOLVE THE MYSTERY YOU CRUEL EVIL PERSON

You're right. But the above is what r07 wants you to believe.

>>6651662
Also George's vision of their future can have helped Yasu snap. Yasu's apparently sterile, but George wants children. On the other hand Battler suggested nothing beyond being happy together forever, which is childish but more compatible with Yasu.

>>6651694
Oh please, people like Jessica, Gohda, Hideyoshi, Maria(presuming they didn't do it of course), if you think their fates were in the slightest karmic you're just white knighting Yasu a bit too much.

>>6651694
being bullied is now excuse for mass murder? or love problems are? then the human race should be extinct already and no hard feelings on anyone. Yasu needs to be a crazy bitch if she's indeed the culprits for any reason like that, and there's no redemption.

>>6651706
I still say Jessica did it, but I also maintain that she had good reasons for it.

Just as people unintentionally shat on Yasu's life, I think Yasu did the same to Jessica's.

...Or Jessica was just too nice of a person who had the misfortune of having Natsuhi as a mother.

>>6651694
George lying about the letter is just fandom shit, there is no indication he did.
You don't kill people because a kid made you a promise and broke, you don't fucking ask responsibility from a kid, especially when that kid lost his mother just after that promise and understandably had other priorities.

And she wasn't even that much bullied, her life wasn't pure shit like Takano for example.

>>6651711
>being bullied is now excuse for mass murder? or love problems are? then the human race should be extinct already and no hard feelings on anyone. Yasu needs to be a crazy bitch if she's indeed the culprits for any reason like that, and there's no redemption.

Yes, he's insane, that's the point.

I'm not saying murderer is justified, it isn't, but i can see the reason that brought him to that.

Plus, we actually saw that bad endings exist even if Yasu is Lion or doesn't do anything.

>>6651722
Takano was a whore!

>>6651727
>Plus, we actually saw that bad endings exist even if Yasu is Lion or doesn't do anything.
That doesn't excuse anything you know.

>>6651693
Sure it's selfish, but unrequited love is always selfish, plus it makes sense for Yasu: Kinzo "gave" Yasu everything, the gold, the island, the family members. Jumping from downtrodden servant to absolute lord of the island doesn't help your compassion, especially when you're already the kind of person who maintains authority over other servants by playing pranks on them and pretending you're an all-powerful witch.

Personally, i blame Natsuhi

>>6651732
unrequited love usually doesn't involve waging the lives of 15 people just to make a choice

>>6651738

He has DID

>>6651732
Yes, but Yasu is the heroine of the story, we HAVE to be missing something important here, I can't honestly see Battler breaking down like he did over the loss of a selfish bitch like Yasu.

There MUST be someone else behind this.

>>6651749

But i thought Meta-Beato =! Yasu

>>6651711
>being bullied is now excuse for mass murder?
Dunno about excuse, but that's a common reason. See every school shooting in the US, ever.

>>6651727
>Plus, we actually saw that bad endings exist even if Yasu is Lion or doesn't do anything.
It's because Kinzo did the thing Yasu does in the other stories though. Maybe if he'd just said "fuck you guys Lion is my successor" and not given them an opportunity to find the gold they'd have been more reasonable.

>>6651738
You need to read a few more tragedies, and look up crimes of passion

Waging the lives of 15 people just because of your unrequited love isn't simply selfish, it's just fucking evil.
If anything can be categorized as evil in this world then what Yasu did/tried to do was definitely part of it.

To people who doubt the truth of Bern's Tea Party: How do you explain away her "This is all truth-" in red?

Episode 8 - The Excellent Adventure of the Golden Witch.

Gohda uses duct tape to fix up Maria and Jessica, they get on a speed boat and head towards San Francisco.

Gohda opens up a five star restaurant, Jessica becomes involved in the very friendly community, and Maria learns how to channel her autism into painting.

Everyone else dies horrible horrible deaths, and are not mourned.

>>6651738
>unrequited love usually doesn't involve waging the lives of 15 people just to make a choice
Apologizing to your daughter usually doesn't involve elaobrate riddles pointing to secret passages leading to tons of gold. Yasu learned from the best.

>>6651771
>Waging the lives of 15 people just because of your unrequited love isn't simply selfish, it's just fucking evil.

He didn't do it for the evilulz, he did because he's insane

>If anything can be categorized as evil in this world then what Yasu did/tried to do was definitely part of it.

What people did to Yasu life isn't evil?

Yasu created an imaginary fantasy life for herself where she was a witch.

In her real life, she believed she was being directly tested by God.

And 4 years later, after starting an imaginary fantasy life where she believes she's a witch, everyone important around tells her she really is a witch, and gives her the power (via money) to do anything in the world. She's fully absorbed in a world where she believes she's a witch with god-like magical power. I think of course she's "crazy" enough to come up with stuff like the murder roulette.

>>6651777
I'm okay with this.

>>6651774
Red truth is highly context dependent and Bern's red was cut in the middle. We have some leeway here.

>>6651778

"...I wouldn't put it past Yasu!"

>>6651774
partial sentence, cut before the meat of the statement, as the "-" implies. Consider full sentences:

This is all truthfully amusing
This is all truth apart from all the bullshit I just narrated
This is all truth. "This" referring to the next forty sentences I'm gonna utter.
This is all truth: Lion and Will are fags

And so on...

>>6651781
>What people did to Yasu life isn't evil?
No.
Natsuhi = accident

Maids = also lived a shitty life same as Yasu and it's not like they really bullied her, and she did bully them in return

Battler = kids make promise all the time, but his mother died and he had to broke it, so evil right?

Genji/Kumasawa = did everything for her

Kinzo = Never did anything to her directly, actually wanted to apologize and gave her everything.

And no, Yasu isn't insane nor does she have DID.
She knowingly decided to toy with the lives of 15 fucking people.

>>6651785

>Red truth is highly context dependent and Bern's red was cut in the middle. We have some leeway here.

This is what I was thinking myself. Like "This is all truth-in this game," or "This is all truth-a possible truth that competes with all other possible truths simultaneously" or something like that.

Still, if Bern's tea party was the "real truth" of Rokkemjima, I'd be satisfied with it. And Battler can make up his imaginary story to placate Ange.

>>6651781
Once again, fuck you, Gohda, Maria, Jessica, and Hideyoshi didn't deserve what they got.

This isn't a "Pay Evil Unto Evil" situation here, this is Yasu just being selfish as fuck.

Stop White Knighting her, for fuck's sake.

>>6651771
problem is, battler seems to think yasu's reason is perfectly justified and reasonable in ep5, and i think anyone would agree it's not (even if it's belivable). The guy thinks his father is pure evil just for cheating. Even featherine said it's doubtful that he would forgive his family's murderer that easily. There HAS to be more to it than that...

>>6651792
>This is all truthfully amusing
This is all truth apart from all the bullshit I just narrated
This is all truth. "This" referring to the next forty sentences I'm gonna utter.
This is all truth: Lion and Will are fags


I can totally see Bern doing this

>>6651792

The concept that incomplete sentences can be shown in Red is...pretty ridiculous.

Red Truth: "Rudolf is a woman...

(...lover")

>>6651799
There isn't, Ryuukishi is just a hack.

>>6651798
>Hideyoshi

The accomplice?

>>6651794
>Natsuhi = accident

Not really

>Maids = also lived a shitty life same as Yasu and it's not like they really bullied her, and she did bully them in return

Are you really comparing hiding keys to what they did to him? Considering he had no friends?
I guess, you were never bullied.

>Genji/Kumasawa = did everything for her
>Kinzo = Never did anything to her directly, actually wanted to apologize and gave her everything.

You forgot the part where they lied to her and essentially played with her life for 19 years
Kinzo didn't gave her everything until much, much later.

>>6651807
Nah, I can think of three scenarios which would make sense and not have Yasu be a complete bitch.

1. Yasu was just playing a fake death murder mystery game, and it went horribly wrong because lolKyrie.

2. Jessica is the culprit, manipulating Yasu because Yasu pretty much makes the entirety of Jessica's life a trivial pursuit.

3. Yasu is played by Christian Bale, and wants his younger brother, Marky Mark, to win the light weight title.

>>6651806
then battler is totaly asumu's son

>>6651816
The true murderer kills everyone for money, and Yasu goes along with the murderer to hide the cruel truth fom Battler.

>>6651798
Actually most anons here aren't white knighting her, just saying her whole life makes her unstable enough to do it.

Naturally the problem comes from the fact Battler was white knighting her, but that'd tend to indicate her intent with the roulette wasn't murder (by this point it's pretty obvious the murders are just a riddle, a mystery made for Battler) and something went wrong, in part because she chose such a roundabout way (as Battler himself mentions).

The big problem is the killswitch, I guess. suppose for an instant the murders are all a prank for Battler and it's the explosion that killed everybody, who threw the switch on the second day? Could it have been someone who didn't believe Yasu and decided the bomb either didn't exist or was switched off by the right position? The bomb's handy in that respect, it can still be the vector of an accident, making everyone on the island innocent despite all the deaths.

>>6651815
not the anon you're answering, but i've been bullied, it fucked up my self-confidence for pretty much my whole school life and prevented me from having friends. And yet, I'm not really planing to kill anyone, for now. I can even understand that the people who bullied are not evil, just really immature and probably lacking in self confidence as weel. if you can excuse somene from mass murder, you can excuse them for bulllying too. Look at their HEARTS or something, and realise that yasu is not justified, nor the sadest people in the world like you try to make it sound.

Moral of Episode 7:

10 tons of gold + a bunch of people + a bunch of weapons = a bad mix

(see the Italians and tea party)

>>6651806
>The concept that incomplete sentences can be shown in Red is...pretty ridiculous.
It'd be ridiculous if abused. But this is the only use of it so it can work as a one-trick pony about how you shouldn't jump to conclusions, which has been Will's point all along.

Remember guys, Yasu is the product of incest

Don't do incest

>>6651838

I'm not excusing her, i'm saying she's understable.

Also, different people have different reactions under different circumstances, i doubt you are an orphan with a permanent damaged penis, incest genes and two personalities.

>>6651824
there where no bad people. Just a lot of stupid people.

>>6651849

I'll miss Umineko once it end

Say whatever you want, i had fun times

How do you add the "Yasu" part to "Shkannontrice?"

>>6651864
When they cry 5 isn't far.

>>6651864
don't worry, soon enough something else will be crying.
I'm still sad that author teory wich is 99% canon destroys every conection with higurashi...

>>6651870
Before the 'Gaap' part but after the 'Claire' part.

>>6651871
Better be WHEN THE WOLVES cry.

And it should be about individualism.

>>6651870
Yasushkannontrice, or Yashkannontrice?

>>6651873
rather, turns them into fanservice

>>6651873
>I'm still sad that author teory wich is 99% canon destroys every conection with higurashi...

Could you please explain this to me? I don't follow animesuki.

>>6651878
>WHEN THE WOLVES cry.
He did it already

>>6651873
>I'm still sad that author teory wich is 99% canon destroys every conection with higurashi...

It does?
I thought meta-world existence was left ambiguous

>>6651876
>>6651881

So, "Yashklairaapannontrice"

Though personally I believe Shannon might be a separate person, and Yasu/Beatrice/Kanon is the personality ball.

When the Butterflies cry.

Calling it now.

>>6651883
author teory is that only one thing ever happened at rokkenjima and every game is just a tale someone wrote about it. No time loops like in higurashi, and every meta scene probably didn't happen. what does this make bern and lambda?

>>6651884
No he didn't.

>>6651893
Theory, not teory, you dumb fuck.

>>6651878
>wolves
>individualism

Bernkastel and Lambdadelta et al, are the internet commentators in Author theory. We're the people searching for a tale to sate our endless boredom, and we want to get into the guts of it and see what makes it tick.

>>6651886
well, i'd love to see a troll battler togheter with bern fucking the next main char's life. then s/he will turn evil and join them and so on.

When the Bacteria cry

Story about microbiologists that work on an island/village to produce a vaccine for a newly discovered local disease. After few days, epidemics start and this place is cut out from the rest of the world to prevent spreading of the disease. They have to discover not only how to cure it, but also, who broke sanitary rules and caused the outbreak.

>>6651893
>>6651893
I don't think

>every game is just a tale someone wrote about it

and

>Bern and Lamda are Voyager witches

are contradictions like you seem to think. Because they can be witches and create vibrant, real-seeming "tales" that are fiction with the gameboard and pieces of what has already truly happened on Rokkenjima...with their power as witches.

VC code: THE distrial

>>6651911
Copyrighting like fist of the north star.

In when they cry 5's first episode, we will be acquainted with Flood Eric A.

>>6651922

Shouldn't it be more like "Eric A. Flood" (Western naming order)?

I put the English folder into the game folder but it says I'm missing some music files and that I've installed improperly despite doing what the instructions said. Last time I just copied the BGM folders into the English one but it doesn't work now. How do I fix this.

>>6651917

The point is, whatever a meta-world exist or not it doesn't matter, since it's a reflection of reality.

That's why "Is Hachijo Featherine or is Featherine Hachijo?"

>>6651926
"Eric A. Freud" seems better.

A perverse psychologist. Bernkastel admits that she lost sight of the heart, after finally getting owned in Episode 8. So she creates a piece who uses theories about the id, ego, and super ego to explain about how the motivations of "the heart" lead to even more brutal and fucked up tales.

>>6651938
Fund it.

>>6651938

"Natsuhi's the culprit because she wants to have sex with her Father lololol"

>>6651938
Or Rick Afluday.
It goes better with >>6651911

Just finished the Tea Party and all I can say is Fuck you Bern. I hope Battler rapes you with a giant axe you sick sadistic fuck.

I was cool with Bern.

Until she abused my beloved Erika.

Now I hate her guts.

>>6651979

What will piss me off is that she probably wont even get a punch in the face at EP8 for being a bitch. Damn it I hate this bitch so much!

>>6651970
>>6651979

That's not how you write "Bern is awesome"

>When they cry 5
>In the most crime-ridden city of the world, two young girls try to make their way as detectives.

>>6651982

>>6651929
copy the music fils from the DVD directories to the matching installation directories. The installer can miss some because of japanese encoding

>>6651988
episode 5 has to be this + erika

>>6651988

Do want

Will we ever see Dlanor again? ;_;

>>6651990
Did the Installer-free version.

>>6652010
Installer free for the patch. How did you install the visual novel itself?

>>6651566
I don't see how an ending that fits with the themes of the story would be a "cop out"

>>6651784
Basically this.

I can sympathize with Yasu and not feel like she's evil because it's pretty obvious she's completely insane and can't really be JUDGED by any such standard.

She's just the sort of crazy that was normally completely harmless to others,that changed when she got caught between two guys she loved.

>>6651960
Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

>>6652071
To be entirely fair, who WOULDNT want to have sex with a stud like Kinzo?

>>6652089

Beatrice 2?

>>6651785
Kh.
Yes, what she is saying is true.
The red truths of ep 1/6 were also true.
Even if it was just a book from some bitch, it was the truth... In this book.
Even as an ""absolute truth"" it was already used in order to describe fictional things, so...
Same thing here. It doesn't say anything about the real rokkenjima. Or else the red truth should not be used for books which don't have anything to o with the reality in the first place.
Context-dependant ftw. And here we are talking about the story of a book.

So yeah, why do you guys think Jessica lied to Battler in Episode 4 over the phone? Really, with current information I can only believe that in Episode 4 Jessica and Kyrie killed each other with Jessica surviving just enough to talk with Battler on the phone and tell him all that shit (lolmagic exists and all that stuff). But I don't know WHY she would do it. But how the fuck did she know how George dies and everything (she literally implies she was there at the time)?

And even if we do assume she was threatened to do it everyone on the island was dead no suicides. So it doesn't make much sense.

>>6651988
Do want.

>>6651881
Clearly the correct name is "Sayoshiyasutrice".

inb4 ryukishi saying that umineko is autobiographic in an interview, so wa can add Ryukishi in the list.

inb4 ryukishi saying that umineko is autobiographic in an interview, so we can add Ryukishi in the list.

>>6652166
I still say everybody's alive and playing a prank on Battler in episode 4 until his conversation with Beatrice, which is why Jessica played along and knew the layout of the murders. Then everybody's killed in their fake death spots, episode 6 style, while Battler's still outside.

>>6652166

>>6652235
People still believe Jessictrice?

>>6651908

Oh God.

Bern isn't like /b/

Bern IS /b/

>>6652166
read ep4 again, kyrie lives after jessica. And they're both going "a witch did it", how can they not be lying?

>>6652507
That actually makes perfect sense, although what does that make Lambdadelta?

>>6652525
Moot.

Bern has nothing to do with /b/. Don't insult her. To start with, she's hundreds of years old, not 15.

Since Ryu brutally murdered my Rosatrice Theory and mixed up shkanontrice pony theory and B0MB I'll bet episode 8 will have a very shitty shounen end sin where both battler and will go against certainty, miracles red truth and create a happy ending

>>6651911

>>6652541
How is a happy end bad?

>>6652541
But Bern said in red that the story won't have a happy ending.

>>6652532
/b/ is often delusional

After all, it hasn't been confirmed that Bern really has lived 1000 years.

>>6652565
/b/ isn't delusional.

Calling a character /b/ is actually more insulting to the author than the character. It implies they have made a character with no interesting features, besides being a young normal person.

Now go back to animesuki or wherever.

>>6652549
She might be talking about the story she's about to make as a game master in that scene, not about the story as a whole. That said, i think a completely happy ending would be too fake after all this shit. Bittersweet happy at most, is what i'm hoping for.

>>6652522
Kyrie does? Oh right. She dies talking on the phone a few minutes after Jessica. So I guess if we take Episode 7's truth seriously she may have been able to threaten Jessica into doing it.

And yes, I know they're lying but I don't know why they would. Well, Kyrie makes senses (as Rudolf and her plan to put the blame on Kinzo). But Jessica lying makes no sense especially if we believe that Kyrie killed Jessica like in this Episode.

>>6652597
Yeah, she particularly says that the GAME she's going to run won't have a happy ending.

Never said anything about the story as a whole having one or not.

>>6652166
Listen, Jessica is one of those anomalies, things are supposed to be vague with her.

I've seen a decent theory that states she really fucking hates Yasu because of how Yasu made her life pointless.

>>6651728
>Takano was a whore!

Until she got fucked to death by Banken.

>>6652649
pointless how?

Yasu made Jessica's life pointless. Isn't it the other way around? Jessica was the one saying how people like Yasu, who dreamed all the time about a prince and thought that men meant everything they said, were pathetic.

>>6652834
Jessica was taught her whole life how to make a good head with constant 'training' by Natsuhi and Krauss however she finds out after 18 years that from the very beginning someone else was gonna be the head (Yasu).

While she doesn't exactly want the position to find out most of your life was pointless how would you feel?

>>6652902
>While she doesn't exactly want the position to find out most of your life was pointless how would you feel?

Except Jessica didn't want the position, so why would she care? Natsuhi would throw a fit of rage about it, but I think Jessica would be alright with it. She's always saying how she wants to get off the island too. On top of that Yasu didn't want the head position and told Genji to let Krauss have it.

>>6652916
Remember how pissed she got when Erika implied Krauss might not be the successor in Kinzo's eyes? Even if Jessica doesn't want it, she's been preparing for the role for her entire life. She's not just gonna roll over and let someone else yank out the rug from under her.

This ship is going to start sinking soon. Shall we create a new one?

>>6652916
yeah, but since it aperently was obvious to kinzo who was gonna be the head, he could have just warned everyone and spared jessica the harsh education. She feels sore about the whole thing but she came to terms with it in her own way. I think she would be mad if she found out everything she went trough had been pointless since there was never a chance for her to be a head. She suffered needlesly. That said, I still think relief would be the stronger emotion.

>>6652916
>>why should she care

... maybe because everything she have endured is wasted because of yasu?
Seriously, think about it a little. Yeah, she don't want to be the head, that's true, and because of this, Yasu should not bother her.
But it doesn't change what she lived until then and the fact that if someone steal her right as the successor, everything she went through until now was for nothing.
Way to waste all of your youth.

>>6652902
that's all fine and dandy but there never was any hint Jessica knows about Yasu

>>6653045
battler wasn't worried about jessica hating him in ep5 for nothing

>>6652902
>>6652916
>>6653002
I've seen this exact discussion before. Except back then, I was the one arguing for Jessica being fine with it.

>>6653086
Battler hasn't seen or talked to Jessica in five years. Also the only way Jessica could hate Yasu is if Yasu did what she did in EP7 and became the Head, and by that point Jessica's role is moot anyway.

NEW THREAD

>>6651954

Did someone find a decent motive for the culprit?

After the Tea Party, i'm starting to think ep 1-4 were just bullshit created by Yasu in order to not real truth get out and also create a world where everyone lives happy.

I think the whole "roulette" motive doesn't really make sense, considering what Battler reaction in ep V, witch Featherine also pointed.

I quite like ep 7, with Will just cutting through things (no coloured writing needed). It felt no where as long as other ones.

I am still amused that it was confirmation of rainbow pony + yasusayotris. It was rather questionable about kyrie's feeling rudolf dying though - she suffered many years yrs of jealousy for this, which is consistent with him killing "Asumu's" Battler, and not consistent with Rudolf's confession that battler is really her son (ie, he pulled a fast one on her making her miserable over the years when asumu was alive, losing both partner and a kid.). I personally take it Rudolf didn't really confess about the whole set-up, rather than kyrie knew it in advance.

And I had expected Battler vs Will, hah.