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6624494 No.6624494 [Reply] [Original]

Why are you all playing Touhou when you can emulate DAIOUJOU now?

>> No.6624517

No one here plays touhou

>> No.6624524

last i heard enemies were reversed, was that fixed?

>> No.6624540

>>6624524
Yeah. I think it was ketsui that had that problem, they both work now anyway

>> No.6624560

>>6624524
What do you mean?

>> No.6624562

twowho is more entertaining than all bullets are purple, music is shit, the game.

>> No.6624567

>>6624560
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzZ2DOWRmkY
Just watch until the 3:30 mark or so for some awesome tank action.

>> No.6624575

>>6624494
Actually this should have been posted like 2 years ago with the headline

> Why are you all playing Touhou when you can emulate tons of games from CAVE;Psikyo,Raizing,Seibu,Takumi now?

>> No.6624588

>>6624575
Okay, let's not get carried away. Psikyo suck, and the original Dodonpachi was good but not really anything to write home about.

>> No.6624596

Should I emulate it using MAME or PS2?

>> No.6624598
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6624598

>>6624588
>. Psikyo suck,

What too hard for you?

>> No.6624604

Because I have a PS2 and can play this shit whenever I want.

>> No.6624614

Because the RANK is still borked in DOJBL, so I'm playing Ketsui instead, can no miss no bomb up until halfway through 1-3.

>> No.6624616
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6624616

Psikyo suck


>>6624596
Mame!

>> No.6624621

>>6624616
That should be greentexted

>> No.6624650

>>6624598 too HARD for you?
That's an argument a twelve year old Halo fan would use. Cave games are harder than Shitkyo games, and I LIKE them. Just because a game is hard doesn't mean it's good, and Psikyo games aren't even that hard.

>> No.6624657

I can't believe I had to go to /v/ to get the links.

Ketsui / DDP DOJ / DDP DOJ BL / Espgaluda:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bir87k22vx3hg60

MAME32UI with PGM drivers (buggy sound):
http://www.mediafire.com/?5xogg54krlcoryc

Vanilla MAME exe with PGM drivers and sound fixed (more input lag than MAME32ui):
http://www.mediafire.com/?5xogg54krlcoryc

Also /v/ is refusing to play 2D games, like usual.

>> No.6624665

>>6624598
Not the anon you quoted, but Psikyo's are not hard. However, there have been times when a game gets so hard I just dont bother playing them anymore. ESP Rade comes to mind, I just stop playing at the last stage, shit takes forever and isnt fun at all.

>> No.6624673

I don't see why everyone keeps talking about input lag; it works like a dream on my five year old comp.

>> No.6624676

>>6624614
I sure hope you're not implying that you're bombing at the miniboss. That would be very bad.

>> No.6624700

>>6624673

Most people are probably using LCD monitors, and wondering why there's lag.

>> No.6624724

>>6624650
>Psikyo games arent even that hard

I sure would like to see you 2-ALL Strikers 1999 then

>> No.6624727

>>6624676

No, I'm just getting my dick smacked off trying not use any bombs on stage 3.

>> No.6624728

>>6624650
>That's an argument a twelve year old Halo fan would use
Halo is hard according to you?

>> No.6624737

>>6624728
That's the point.

>> No.6624746

>>6624737
PSIKYO GAMES ARE SO EASYYY XDXDXDXD
I CAN 2-ALL ALL OF THEM

You cant even beat the 1st loop of Strikers 1945 II i bet

>> No.6624752

>>6624727
Gonna have a fun time on 4 and 5, then!

>> No.6624772

Oh look its the attack of the CAVE fanboys(who just ironically didnt know about the company till 2009)

>> No.6624778
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>>6624772

>> No.6624781

>>6624746
You keep missing the point.

Halo is going to be hard for someone who never plays first person shooters because they'll get bored with it before they ever get good. The same goes for any game, really. If you have fun playing a game, eventually you'll get good at it.

>> No.6624787

>>6624781
And you are seriously implying that someone who has played shooters for a while will just jump in a Psikyo game and 2-ALL it?

yeah right....

Not even SOF,Ket can do that

>> No.6624812

>>6624787
No, I'm saying that saying anyone who doesn't like your game is just intimidated by the difficulty makes you look like a Halo kiddie.

>> No.6624823

>>6624812
There are many people that drop certain shooters for difficulty

PSIKYO and Seibu shooters are a nightmare for a guy who prefers slower bullets.

>> No.6624979

>CAVE being the hardest

This is seriously a myth derived from the west, I watch tons of japanese players stream shooters(some are even world record holders amazing players nevertheless)

Every time I ask them what is harder?
Cave or Psikyo they always answer Psikyo

Which does not really suprise me

PSIKYO does not tolerate fucking up even in the later stage of the 1st loop not to mention 2nd

Dying on a boss in later stages of a psikyo shooters is a fucking death sentence the invcibility timer is short ashell the power ups float away allover the damn place as if to mock you, when you bomb you cant really control your ships because the damn thing does a bombing animation. Oh and not to mention fucking popcorn enemies which spawn all the dman time and if you run into them you power down and to mention they even shoot at you.

Dying in the 2nd loop of a Psikyo game?

You mightaswell reset there is no way in hell you will recover the time untill you will be able to kill that "larger" enemy that shits out bullets will take forever with the non fully powered up shot, till then there will be tons of enemies with aimed bullets hunting you, its not like in a CAVE game where you hitbox is little you are fucked there is nothing you can do about it just reset the damn game

>> No.6625010

What does 2-all mean?

>> No.6625040

>>6624979
Cave feints.

Psikyo rapes.

Raizing trolls.

Treasure prints money.

>> No.6625050

>>6625010
2nd loop all clear.

>> No.6625091

I prefer slow methodical patterns rather than mash left and right and do nothing but stream the entire stage portion.

>> No.6625137

>>6624979 Dying on a boss in later stages of a psikyo shooters is a fucking death sentence the invcibility timer is short ashell the power ups float away allover the damn place as if to mock you, when you bomb you cant really control your ships because the damn thing does a bombing animation
So in other words, Psikyo games are hard because they're poorly designed. Thanks for clearing this up.

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>> No.6625387

I've never understood how anyone without autism could ever enjoy a 2d shooter, much less a bullet-hell game.

>> No.6625448

>>6625387

k

>> No.6625503

>>6625387
>I've never understood how anyone without autism could ever enjoy a 2d shooter, much less a bullet-hell game.
>anyone without autism could enjoy a 2d shooter
>without autism
>/jp/

EXACTLY

>> No.6625506
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>>6625387
2D shooters are all fun.

>> No.6625519

>>6625387
cool blog bro

>> No.6625539

Why the fuck can't I emulate Mushihimesama yet? Fuck.

>> No.6625584

ShmupMAME 2.2 is out! Removes the sprite buffer for lower latency:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30659

Playing Ketsui on this + my black frame insertion hack (118.34Hz mode) + Mad Catz SFIV stick modded with full Seimitsu controls. It's actually better than the arcade version. This is so far ahead of Touhou I can't imagine ever playing Touhou again.

>> No.6625781

>>6625387
They're extremely fast-paced action games, how is that autistic? If anything I'd think an autistic person would be more likely to enjoy puzzle games like Sokoban or number crunchan games like Japanese RPG #2374.

>> No.6625814

>>6625781
To be honest, they tend to be games that reward obsession...

...wait, was the fixation/hyperfocus thing autism or aspergers?

>> No.6625822

>>6625814
talking about shooters, mind you... that post came out incredibly clunky...

>> No.6625826

>>6625814
Asperger's syndrome is a form of autism.

>> No.6625854

>>6625814 they tend to be games that reward obsession
But that's retarded, ALL games reward obsession. You're more likely to get good at a game if you enjoy playing it. It's like that Halo argument from earlier.

>> No.6625859

>>6625814
So basically, autism = games that require skill, and being normal = today's drivel of casual and hand-holding games. Yep sounds about right, leave it to normals to classify things they don't understand as disorders.

>> No.6625862

>>6625826
Last time I checked, it's part of the Autistic Spectrum, which doesn't immediately mean it's autism, but rather it's a closely related disorder.

You either have Autism, or you have some development disorder within the spectrum (or some other shit, but that's not the point). It's not really "different varieties of autism."

>> No.6625873

>>6625859 autism = games that require skill
It's sour grapes.
If someone is smarter than you, they're a nerd.
If someone is better at video games at you, they're autistic.
If someone is better at sports than you, they're a dumb jock.
If someone is more popular with the ladies, they're a hipster, etc. etc.

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6625884

Doesn't have a lovable harem of hags and little girls?

Then I'm not interested.

If I wanted to play a shump for the gameplay I'd go play Do Don Pachi.

>> No.6625887

>>6625859
No, autism = ocd.

ocd = higher tolerance for the sort of BS that turns people off of shooters.

Higher tolerance = better success.

Or some shit like that. The real point to make is that autism has no bearing on your ability to play the games, nor does it create a bias towards other games.

It's just being used as the new "faggots/niggers/casuals" insult, anyway...

>> No.6625921

I'm playing both.

>> No.6625994
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>>6625884
Daioujou is Dodonpachi with girls.

>> No.6626010

>>6625994
Should I feel bad for liking DDP more than DOJ?

>> No.6626016

>>6626010
Eh, DDP is certainly the much better looking game

>> No.6626022

How do I enable autofire for the standard weapon?

>> No.6626056

>>6626016
Definitely agree on that...

DOJ just doesn't really turn me on...
It's like someone messed with the formula, and while they made something great, it just doesn't feel like an automatically better game.

Think of it like this:

The magnitude of improvement from DonPachi to DoDonPachi exceeded that for DDP to DOJ.

Not to say DOJ is a bad game, it definitely looks like it's "all that and then some more."

But it just doesn't click with me.

Not to mention I've died a number of times where I swore I shouldn't have...

Who knows, maybe that'll change...

Stage 2 was I SEE WHAT THEY DID THERE tier, though...

>> No.6626114

>>6626022
I know there is a way to do this.

>> No.6626120

>>6626114
Service mode:
SWITCH ON!
>F2

HIT DEFAULT!

???

PROFIT!

or something like that

>> No.6626125

>>6626114
Should be in the dip switches somewhere. I'd give you better instructions, but I haven't bothered emulating the game since it doesn't work properly yet.

Or have they fixed it so rank works now?

>> No.6626130

>>6626120
Yay, it worked.

>> No.6626200

>>6626120
I remember the first time I discovered you can use F2 to enter an option menu... and quickly realized that Metal Slug games can have BLOOD in them (it isn't on by default)!

>> No.6626247

KEEP YOUR DIGNITY > Your mission starts now!

>> No.6626269

>>6626200
It just looks like water normally.

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"Prepare for attack!" my ass, AWACS, how the fuck do I get past these bitches without losing it?

Seriously, this reminds me of the fuckhuge pink tanks from DDP stage 1. They should be an absolute cakewalk to anyone familiar with their bullshit, but it's a pain to deal with at first.

I have a general plan of action for Stage 1. I'd like to edit out the part that currently reads "BE PRAYING BE PRAYING BE PRAYING," though...

For starters, which side fires first?
Left/Right?
What determines it!?

>> No.6626301

>>6626292
I didn't get past stage 3, but I didn't have a problem with them.

>> No.6626314

>>6626301
It's likely me playing shitty.
Me + Ketsui = Point blank 5-chip mining as much as possible

Which means I tend to run into bullets WAY TOO OFTEN.

It's odd, Ketsui is the one game where I actively acknowledge the scoring system. Point blanking shit really is fun!

>> No.6626336

>>6626314
autism

>> No.6628050

>>6626314
>Ketsui is the one game where I actively acknowledge the scoring system.
This.
Well kind of. I don't really care about score in Ketsui either but still try to shoot enemies right in the face.

>> No.6628071

Because Hellsinker is better and has better music.

>> No.6628079

Just asking; what kinds of specs do I need for mame emulation? It'll take a while till I can afford to make my desktop usable again and my notebook isn't too powerful.

>> No.6628076

>>6628071

hellsinker more like smellstinker

>> No.6628109

>>6628079
If it has more than 1GHz it will probably work fine.

>> No.6628148

a little help guys. i've got two mame, one is the 32bit and the other is 64bit. i've put in the files in the rom folders on each and re-browsed the directory but it won't see any new games there.

>> No.6628173

>>6628148
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=x0odis6m
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=44URT23X

Unpack the rar with the roms (don't unpack the zip files themselves) into a folder called "roms". Then put the mame.exe into the folder with the "roms" folder (not inside the roms folder). Then fire up mame.exe. That should work.

>> No.6628180

I'm playing Touhou because Reisen on easy is sufficiently intimidating. Reimu too.

And Eirin, go fuck yourself.

>> No.6628281

>>6628173
thanks! my two mame are really old that's why it didn't recognized the games... playing it right now, and the games seems easy since i've started out with touhou

>> No.6628296

Is it just me or is the hitbox in Ketsui smaller than in most other Cave games? It sure fells that way.

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>>6628281

>> No.6628322

>>6628296
The newer games have (mushi futari, ddp dfk etc) have microscopic hitboxes, although I think compared to DOJ, Ketui's might be smaller

>> No.6628365

>>6628322
I see.
Haven't played any of their games past what is available on MAME/PS2 yet so that was a little surprising. Although the hitbox in Mushihimesama is tiny too, now that I think about it.

>> No.6629098

>>6628281
The default difficulty is easy mode. Hit the dip switch and set it in the game menu to something you'd expect in the arcade. The option to enable button C (rapid fire of standard shot) is also in that menu.

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