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MoF's hitboxes are a little weird.

Ain't nothin to it but to practice, tighten up your game in the spots you die most often, and watch replay videos to see how others do it.

ZUN is a master troll.

There is always a Touhou that will make you rage.

theres never an excuse for dying on the first stage
except drugs.

I really don't get it.

I can't do very well in EoSD but MoF is a walk in the park for me.

>>6578248
Similar situation here. I've 1cc'd everything now, but I still cant even beat IN. Normal difficulty, of course

First stage? I thought it was the easiest first stage of all the Touhou games. First game I 1cc'd. Then again I'm weird too. I do better on Hard mode Fairy Wars than IN on Normal.

MoF was awkward at first but I got used to it and liked it a lot more. However Aya's stage is always a nightmare.

SA on the other hand is just pure ARGH. MoF about the same. I hope we get a more reasonable level of difficulty for the next one.

Thanks for the responses.
>>6578237
Well, guess you're right. Watching some replays really helped me in EoSD.

you get like 6 bombs per level OP, there no reason why you shouldent be able to 1cc MoF

>>6578273
Maybe I'm just feeling strange because of this "new bomb system"... I'm always afraid of using bombs, and now that they lower my power, I feel even more afraid. But I suppose I'll have to work with it, right?

>>6578267
Yeah, the maximum I reached was Aya. I've tried her stage several times, only one or two I could even reach her.

>>6578277

well damn, thats your problem right there OP. the name of the game in MoF is bomb spam. half of the time your power doesn't even go down after collecting the enemies' delicious square blood

>>6578277

New bomb system benefits you quite a bit in MoF. You always have at least one free bomb at 5 power and it's easy to regain typically. Now SA on the other hand, you pretty much never have a free bomb. Either I die early on because I didn't bomb enough or die tons later because I ran out of shot power.

wow you're pathetic

Oh, I see. So I was mistaken about the bombs after all. I'll keep this in mind.
Thanks, guys.

>>6578305
OP is Battler?

>>6578292
If he's pathetic, then what do you do with your time?

Post gore and hatred?

>>6578273
More like 10 if you know how to get them.

>>6578277

That was exactly my problem...

After beating Mokou I was sure 1cc'ing MoF would be a piece of cake and then nothing worked..
I didn't get how the hitboxes worked, the deathbombing time of IN was gone and my rage level was off the charts

Then some clever anon told me to just bomb as there's plenty of power items..

Now I can 1'cc MoF without bombs

took me the longest time to get used to those pointy oval bullets.

MoF? Just bomb man. Just bomb. I got to Aya in Lunatic at 4am by just bombing through everything that looked remotely threatening. That is, if all you want to do is 1cc it instead of perfecting and whatnot (I'm fine with Aya's stage now, but for some reason the whole Nitori battle pisses me off, always).

what difficulty are you playing at? it's the reverse for me; in fact MoF is the _only_ touhou game i could 1cc on normal, though i rarely play the series as a whole.

I love MOF , my favorite. I suck at every other Touhou but I can 1cc this on insane with only Marisa.

As soon as i realized how to play and took the game a little seriously, I began to rage.

I still love them

>>6578442
God, yeah, I always think Nitori's first noncard is easy and then I die when I could have bombed so easily.

>>6578442
Yeah, Nitori's rather spotty, but I don't know how you can get past Aya easily on Lunatic. Especially the noncards with the red and blue circles that she flings at retarded speeds and jesus christ how am I supposed to tell if I can fit through there if I don't have enough time to register the movement let alone eye angles.
I can get to Aya well enough, but there is where it ends.

MoF has an unorthodox equilibrium: tons of bombs, but few extra lives compared to the other games.

>>6578483

Touhou doesn't work without rage.

>MoF's hitboxes are a little weird.

Namely most of Kanako's cards and a few of Sanae's.

>>6578277
Don't be afraid of bombing. The power items drop like candy and the bullets cancelled by bombing jack your score up pretty good. Know those big fairies in stage 5 that spam bullets off screen? Those are an easy 50k or more bonus to the point items, which makes it easier to hit the 5th extended you get for breaking 150mil.

>>6578559
Nah man, you gotta take it easy. I've found I do much worse as I get angry at doing badly, which quickly goes downhill.

>>6578556
MoF gives you a total of 7 extends, compared to EoSDs 6.

Most all of my rage goes toward fucking UFO. I could have 1cc'd that long ago on Normal if your last life dropped a full power icon like MoF or SA do.

Even though SA has a similar, but less forgiving bomb system, it destroys me. Any tips? I keep either running out of power bombing and dying horribly later or not bombing enough and dying early. I made it to Orin for the first time today. Did not go well, but I made it past her first spellcard...With bomb spam.

>>6578583
Yeah, the losing a full power thing is shitty, but at least you have the option to collect bomb UFOs and bombspam your way out of most tight spots.

>>6578588
I tried collecting a lot of bombs on one run. Ran out on Shou and had no real chance on Hijiri. Basically wound up in the same situation that I did if I went for the red UFOs.

While it's good that you don't lose the spare bombs when you die, you use the extra ones first rather than the two you gets per life. If you die, you're technically losing two bombs.

As you can tell, I really don't like UFO's mechanics.

>>6578242

Having played a lot of touhou on a lot of drugs, I think I can say that's not much of an an excuse either.

>>6578613
Well yeah, but think of it this way.
Red UFOs give you 2/5 of a life, green UFOs give you a bomb and a third.
For every life, you get two bombs.
So to make things even, say we collect 5 UFOs of either type.
Red: 2 lives, 4 bombs, so let's say 6 times we can get hit.
Green: 6 and 2/3 bombs. We're slightly ahead now.
Doubly so, if you consider that bombing causes you to do significantly more damage instead of just dying and coming back, especially when the power loss is factored in.

Of course, that's assuming you're perfect in deathbombs, and never die with extra bombs left. That's the goal anyways though, so may as well go for green I say.

>>6578640
>deathbombing
>UFO

Yea... about that. I cannot into deathbombing in UFO.

I know getting bombs puts me ahead more than extends (in theory it should). Just I'd rather get my miss count down on PCB Hard...

>>6578587

That's because SA is pure evil.

By far the hardest if you ask me, yes, harder than UFO..

I don't understand the rage over UFO, I mean I sucked really bad at it at first, as well, but.. if you know how to collect the UFOs in Stage 1 and 2 for maximum damage, at least stay on your level on Stage 3 and then bomb through Stage 4 while collecting massive amounts of red UFOs, not to talk about Stage 6, which is one big refueling station.. You may end up wihth 7 lives on Hijiri and she's one of the easiest Stage 6 bosses.

>>6578689
>she's one of the easiest Stage 6 bosses.
Absolutely, on normal.
On hard she turns rape mode on, I literally couldn't get past the second noncard without bombing everything before it. Upwards of 12 tries, and I got nowhere. At all.
It's HORRIFYING the difficulty jump she undergoes from normal to hard. UFO normal is easier than SA normal. UFO hard and SA hard? I don't know, but it's tons closer.

>>6578689

SA is pure evil. I've been playing on and off for months and today is the first time I ever didn't have to bomb on fucking Parsee. Then again I still need to bomb on Kogasa in UFO. And there's the rare occasion when I die to Nazrin. It seems as if Nazrin and Kogasa exist just to annoy the hell out of Sanae A.

>>6578689
>SA
>Yuugi's last card

ZUN was sober when he made that card.

>>6578689
Best I've done was 5 lives at Hijiri. Flying Fantastica ground me to a halt at... 15%, I think it was. The best route I've come up with for that stage is about 1 life and 2 plus change bombs.

That's assuming you get all the UFOs. Which is piss easy for Sanae B (ooops, I'm a Reimu A player and that stage is a pain in the ass).

Where can I get TH10+?

Yea I dont know what the hell was going on in the last three games.

I've cleared normal on EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, Marisa every time, and once I hit SA I just got assreamed by Parsee for weeks straight. UFO I cant get past Murasa. SA and UFO arent even a matter of 1cc for me, I just genuinely cannot clear past third and fifth stage on each of them.

I dont even wanna know how hard is like. I cannot take it easy in those games.

>>6578736
Buy them off Ebay.

>>6578753
ZUN doesn't have his old beta testers (ant and fang) anymore. Think that was since after IN. He doesn't have enough beer points to go around which is why we've been getting retarded difficulty creep/spikes in the last few games.

>>6578613


You're awful at UFO. I have gotten to Byakuren with 7 lives as seen in my attached picture. Stop being incompetent.

>>6578703

Goddamn SA annoys me. I can 1CC PCB and IN on hard yet I still have troubled getting through this on normal

>>6578753
Marisa is kinda bad in SA. Marisa/Nitori is ok if you exploit her well, you can be nigh unkillable. But she's also kinda bad in UFO. Sorry about your/my waifu.

>>6578863
Marisa/Alice is also good if you have good bombing reflexes.

>>6578860
I don't get this. 1CCing hard implies a certain amount of, let's call it, bullet competence that would let you cruise through any game on normal. How is SA any worse? This assumes you don't just bomb spam the last 3 stages on your hard 1CCs.

>>6578290
SA has graze autocollect. and if you're too lazy to graze there's always suika. so you shouldn't run out of power that fast

>>6578880
Yeah she's not bad I guess. Patchy is the bad one. Bad, smelly Patchy.

>>6578880
I rarely had to bomb at all until the extra stages. The times I wanted to bomb during last spell, well you cant.

>>6578230
Interesting for you to ask, I always play Mountain of Faith, once everyday. It is the first game of the series I got.

I always played with the "no bomb" rule, since I believe that you need to understand, not avoid a spellcard to get pass it constantly.

Easy is a piece of cake with practice, I reached Kanako with all the extends and beat her losing about 4 of it.

Normal is endurable, but there is a massive difficulty jump at stage 4, the creeps start spamming bullets, even right before the half-boss fight (momiji). So you would have to use a bit tactic there.

My highest record (in terms of length) would be no bombs, Aya's last spell card.

>>6578905

What the fuck is wrong with your english?

Are you intelligent?

>>6578911
Sorry mate, it is the grammar right? I always unconsciously make those mistakes unless I proof read what I wrote.

>>6578911
That being said, can you lighten on the insults? English is not my native language, and I am pretty proud not being a wapanese.

>>6579003

Go whine about your excuses somewhere else. I expect perfect English on a website that expects you to use the English language and if you're not doing it correctly you better believe I'm going to flag your ass.

OP here. I saw the thread on the first page and with new replies, so it motivated me to go play already.
I finally managed to beat Aya. :D
Sanae's stage is kinda crazy, isn't it? Well, I could beat Sanae too.
Reached Kanako, I think I did well, I guess I died just in the final spellcard. Thanks again, guys!
>>6578369
I... well, sorry if I derp. What does this means?

>>6578905
That's a bad way to look at your bombs. Don't think of them as a tool to skip sections you don't understand. Think of them as tools to survive when it looks like you're going to die.

Bombing to save your life is different from bombing to get past a card you don't know how to do.

Train deathbombing. It's not like you can't try playing normally and only bomb for the moments in which it looks like getting hit is unavoidable.

Also understanding isn't all there is to danmaku. Skill is still required for many parts. And the way you're playing isn't really the best way to train it.

Slowly going through the game like the way you're doing will only see a gradual increase. Experiencing more types of danmaku will improve it better than repeatedly trying the same part over and over again.

The fastest way of obtaining skill is adjusting yourself to something far harder than the norm like lunatic. A tactic that helps immensely in 1ccing games on easy, normal, and hard is to play the difficulty above it and return back to the lower difficulty when you're used to the harder difficulty.

That trick however fails when you get up to lunatic mode though I suppose increasing the framerate and speed could possibly imitate it.

tl;dr Don't stagnate trying to get past a section you can't get past by holding back. Try using your bombs a bit in ways that don't disagree with your beliefs and see how far that takes you. And play hard to get better at normal.

>>6579003
>>6578935

Just add the retard to you filter, stop getting trolled.

>>6579043

You suck my cock everyday.

>>6579043
It's pretty obvious that the person with poor English is quite new here. He quite possibly doesn't have the 4chan filter extension. In fact it's also quite possible he doesn't even use firefox.

>>6579011
Flag me for not speaking perfect english on the internet? I was hoping to participate in a great discussion about MoF here, and nothing else.

I'd hate to get into arguments, so if that is what you are getting butthurt over then fine.

Was there really a need to sage this thread?

>>6579011
>I expect perfect English
>you better believe

>>6579059
Thank you. Newfag for a week, and uses GC.

>>6579037
Also, thanks for the tip!

>>6579081

And you can have great conversations on /jp/ as long as you learn to ignore shitty tripfags no one cares about and stop thinking that sage is somekind of weapon or insult, dumbass.

>>6579081

Is there really a need for you to be so ignorant?

I'll put my foot up your ass son if you act out of line again. I am a moderator on this board, and you will respect my rules.

I don't think any of the touhou games are much more difficult than others. all have their share of bullshit, their difficulty spike (Aya, Youmu, Shou, ...). EoSD was my first touhou game and i think most of the patterns there are not even "bullet hell". yet people deem it fiendlishly difficult.

that being said, there's a huge gap between normal and the higher difficulties in my opinion. ive beat all the extra modes of the windows series, but hard is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy beyond my grasp...
Youmu, haven't you said that you find Koishi very difficult? i have no problems with her, but i admire the very fact that you have gotten to Byakuren at hard difficulty

tl;dr - touhou difficulty is subjective

the different skill levels in this thread are kinda interesting. just for a bit of comparison, everyone list how long you have been playing touhou, and which games/extras you have 1cc

i've been playing for about 3 years and(since im going in order of relase date) have manged to 1cc EoSD, PCB, IN and MoF. with the extra stages cleared on the first 4. currently working on extra stage MoF

>>6579081
Please stop being so obviously new here. /jp/ has different standards as opposed to other boards. For one thing don't construe sage as an insult. Second thing, don't respond to trolls.

In fact, do you understand the concept of troll? How long have you been on 4chan? Also what boards do you go to?

>>6579123

>i mean extra cleared on first 3

OP here... Still trying to beat Kanako. It's good that the stage brings me no problem at all. As you said before, it looks like the hitbox is somehow weird. Well, I'd better keep trying.

>>6578640
my problem with this strategy is that getting bombs doesn't cover for dying stupid deaths.
99% of my deaths are from trying to chase down ufo's and getting hit by bullets that I shouldnt' get hit by, with those cases it's prety hard to deathbomb..
For people who've cleared this, do you just ignore the scoring ufo's and do survival runs? I just can't get myself to do that in the big scoring points from stage 3 on and unfortunately i lose all my lives in those moments.. another problem with trying to bomb through those is that i can't track down the ufo's fast enough (reimu A..)

I'll have like 6 lives by stage 4 and then 1 by the time I get to Shou.

>>6579123

I started Touhou 8/17/2009 didn't seriously start until 2/5/2010 and I have beaten 4 6 7 8 9 10 and 12 on Normal and yes I am probably better than you at Touhou loser.

>>6579122
I did, though I've since managed to take her down. I think the main problem with her is the incredibly limited resources, especially as you're learning how the first few cards work. You only have two lives when you start her, and the only way you can get more lives is by not dying. So those first few times you only get two-three chances to learn the cards, and it's a nasty struggle.
It's not so bad when you get the earlier cards down and start on the back three-four cards though, as usually you have a decent amount of lives from the cards and noncards that you're used to.

Though I did only make it to Byakuren once - I've since tried to repeat that to attempt to take her down a few times, but Shou remains ever the roadblock.

>>6579126
Being to several boards, /wg/,/b/,/x/ during the Puddi raid, bookmarked and settled on /jp/ lately. I do understand the concept of not feeding tje trolls, but usually I'm just reading the posts instead of participating in them.

Couldn't help it when I saw a MoF thread.

>>6579161
Oh, forgot to mention that if you can take down all the extras, you should be able to do PCB and probably IN hard as well. PCB's hard really isn't all that bad, all things considered, and IN has that wonderful border team to carry you through.
MoF hard is decent if you get used to its bombing, those are the three I've cleared on hard.

>>6579156
Yeah, blue UFOs are really really ignorable unless it's stage 6, where they're your only options. After all, your score doesn't go any higher when you're dead with no extra lives or bombs.

Started playing around early 08. Kind of playing off and on the whole time, i've managed to 1cc EOSD and PCB on hard, MOF and UFO on normal. Working on SA 1cc (made it to the final spellcard, than died)

Cleared EOSD, PCB extra, working on MOF.

Cannot beat IN normal, just cleared it on easy a day or so ago.

>>6579164
>/b/,/x/

Get the fuck out, idiot.

>>6579152
>Normal

For the amount of shit you're talking, I figured you'd have cleared everything on Lunatic.

>>6579181
ha yeah.

worst one for me is the end of stage 5 with the motherload of blue ufo's that like double your score. it just becomes such a mess of ufo's and bullets that I always fuck it up.. I guess I should try ignoring all the scoring spots.

>>6579181

>Yeah, blue UFOs are really really ignorable unless it's stage 6, where they're your only options.

How fucking DUMB are you?

You can pull off 2 different Green Undefined Fantastic Objects in Stage 6 for an easy 2 bombs, there are more than 6 Green UFOS

>>6579171
>border team
they are like a condom, you know the joke.

Yuyuko rape spray was the only way for me to finally beat Mokou. Sakuya, why is your shot so fuckhorrible?

>>6579123

Hm...I guess I've been playing since summer of 2009, but more of an on and off thing, I've been playing SWR/Soku more I'd say. I got more serious about the game about a couple months ago though, still only an hour a day or two days though. 1cc'd Fairy Wars A route, MoF and PCB normal. I practice different games each day. Having troubles with EoSD, SA and UFO and currently working hardest on SA. I'm not bothering with Extras until I can defeat Hard mode because I just can't handle them.

I've cleared EoSD and PoFV(with Medicine, just a normal 1cc if she doesn't count) on lunatic. LLS, PCB, IN, MoF, SA, and UFO I've cleared on normal. I've beaten the extras of EoSD, IN, MoF, SA, and UFO. I have cleared all scenes in StB and DS, but I have not played through the DS scenes with Hatate. I have cleared routes A-1, A-2, and B-2 of Fairy Wars.

I honestly haven't played touhou in a long while.

My most disliked game is PCB. It always just kind of felt off to me and I don't really get a good feel with the hitboxes. I could most likely clear some of the other games on hard, but I haven't really felt the drive to do so. Don't remember when I started.

Just a question, do anon like playing Touhou fullscreen or windowed?

Some of my friends claim windowed is easier, but I personally like fullscreen better.

i know everyone in this thread has that one "FUCK YOU THAT WASENT EVEN CLOSE TO ME" spellcard. what is it?

>pic related

>>6579226

You should be shot for not playing Touhou windowed.

What's wrong with you.

>>6579226
full screen, face 2 inches away from the monitor.

feels good man.

>>6579231

well rising world is a pretty difficult spellc

>4 out of 736

get out.

>>6579123
Been playing since... 2005, I think. Haven't played it seriously until a few months ago when I noticed I had a few near 1ccs on MoF. Less than a week later had my first legit 1cc on Normal. Gotten all but UFO & SA 1cc'd right now. Starting to play on Hard now, and I can get up to the stage 4 boss on a decent run.

>>6579231
The one that strikes me most with that thought is Youmu's noncards really. I've possibly experienced that feeling in some cards, but I can only think of Youmu and her noncards really.

Actually there is Metal Fatigue. But I don't really contest it since the hitboxes for its bullets are pretty much the entire bullet.

>>6579226
It varies really. Occasionally I play windowed, other times on full screen. Though since I got a widescreen laptop it's mostly been windowed since fullscreen stretches the game and makes it looks a bit off.

SDM is annoying as hell, ZUN didn't think of making the hitbox/hitdot visible back then. ._.

>>6579231
>4/736
Hah, I remember you.

>>6579123
Under a year and a half, I've 1cc'd 4, 6, 7, 8, and 10 on hard, all but 1 and 7.5 on normal, there are about 10 levels I haven't cleared in StB, and I've cleared the extras of MS, EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, SA, UFO, and Hellsinker.

>>6579259
Yeah, Metal Fatigue is worse than its hard mode equivalent for me.

>>6579231

There aren't really any cards that come to mind, I normally admit to my mistakes, except when it comes to this card. Fuck it hard.

>>6579402
As someone who is currently working to 1cc SA, I always thought that card was piss-easy. Any of her cards with lasers, on the other hand, can fuck off.

>>6579402
That's like my favorite stage 3 spellcard ever. Don't hate on it.

>>6579419
Different anon.
The card isn't as much hard as it is disorienting. Big discrepancy between pixel and hitbox, plus coming in at an angle and varying speeds? Ugh. Might as well throw in some curving BS and call it a day.

>>6579171
HOLY CRAP - now that you've said i could probably beat IN hard, i just did it. (to be fair, Malice runs through all of em like a hot knife through butter). i owe you one

>>6579402
That one is pretty fun so long as you don't get an unlucky cluster of them. Unfocused movement is your friend.

>>6579313
why not IamP on normal? Suika is fun as fuck

>>6579419

I'm pretty fine with the laser spellcards. It's just that I always barely get hit when I don't think I should have on this one. Gets annoying after a while. Then again, I am also terrible when it comes to Sanae's spellcards also so eh.

>>6579474

It's about as fun as an aneruism.

He's right for hating it. liking it means you like gay dicks.

>>6579402
I thought so too until I started switching quickly between focused /unfocused and mostly moving up and down. After that it became really easy.

>>6579515

I do that. Still annoying. I've only beaten it once outside of practice, and that was in my most recent run. This also made me remember how much bullshit many of Star Sapphire's spellcards are. I hate those too.

>>6579402
the kogasa version is infinitely worse. if i don't have bombs left, i sometimes pull the most improbable dodges

>>6579231
I swear to god this fucking card is either bugged or cursed. Or both.

Heh, it's the other way around for me. I play MoF and post games a lot more, so Touhou 6-8 actually feel pretty weird to me when I play them. It's just a slightly different feel that you get used to.

But yes, MoF, SA, and UFO all have this feel so get used to it. There just feels something different in the movement or...something.

>>6579566

holy shit i agree with you man. i honestly thought i was the only one why thought that spellcard was bugged. i don't even mess with it anymore, just instabomb

this spellcard eats dead babies
Sun Sign "Royal Flare"

>>6579608
The secret to it (on Normal anyway) is to think the gaps are smaller than what they look like... cause that's how it actually is. Even with Reimu's smaller hitbox I never try to force a dodge.

>>6579480
I suck at it. It frustrates me more than just about any other game. Managed a 2cc with Patche. Double Pain is the most bullshit attack ever.

>>6579648
well, true that, but at least you can declare and rape youmu with whatever you have in store. try your special on remilia when she flies around during Night Sign [ Queen of Midnight ] though...

>>6579231

>areyoume.jpg

haha thats actually my exact words everytime i do charming seige from ALL sides. just can't seem to get the hang of those big bullet's hitbox and its double as bad since the bullets are the same color as the hitbox, so you can't even see it when you are inside them :(

>>6579640

but if you're admiting the gaps ARE smaller than what they appear, then yur addmiting it IS bugged. i don't think i should have to force myself to deal with that when 1 bomb will take care of it for me

>>6579566
The thing with this card is that the bullets don't actually become smaller when their sprites change. That card would actually be too easy for a stage 6 card otherwise.

>>6579566
That's like in the top 5 worst spellcards in the series. It's atrocious and I straight up bomb it out of refusal to participate in it.

>>6579566
never died once on that one. it's like the bullets are scared of you and dodge you - i didn't even notice how they are supposed to be bigger, Hannibal on his elephant could fit in the gaps between them

>>6579734

>>6579123
Been playing for 1 year and 3 months. Lunatic 1CC's on EoSD, PCB, IN and MoF, All extra stages so far beaten.

Full screen always.

>>6579732

Is it really like that? I was wondering why I've only went 1/10 on it and thought I was just being stupid and running into the bullets.

>>6579742
dead serious. like i said in this thread before, touhou difficulty is subjective. in my book Sacrifice Sign "Misayama Hunting Shrine Ritual" is HELLA worse

Why are you uys so awful at these games anyway?

>>6579764

talk is cheap. post some screenshots or forever be considered troll

inb4 0 captures, as you can see ive only been playing 3 hours total

>>6579757
Like every one of my deaths on it was because one of the bullets limping its way off the bottom of the screen was moving slightly more diagonally than I thought and finally rounded over into the next pixel and clipped me with its enormous hitbox. It would be a fun reflex card if the old bullets got out of your way faster.

>>6579817

Homing Reimu

>Homing Reimu

Kill yourself.

>>6579823

Just get out already.

>>6579764
I don't think I've ever cleared hunting ritual. I'm about 50/50 on the other one.

>>6579829

Kill yourself for using homing Reimu, you shitty player.

Babby needs his bullets to home in.

>>6579764
low clear count, as my score.dat recently got lost

>>6579764

I have trouble with a few cards too personally. Honest mans death and Volcano on mokou. I've never cleared HMD second laser.

>>6580892
i know. that spell is very simple and yet fuckups everywhere. mokou was the hardest extra boss for me (leaving out pc98)

also, pic related. damn.

>>6579402
I don't like that card either. A bit of advice though, Suika in SA does the same damage whether she's focused or unfocused(Actually I think unfocused does a bit more damage). Play unfocused for that card all the time, the range of attack and damage is better.

I don't feel any difference between the windows games.

well, aside from the density and speed of the bullet cloud.... oh wait, yeah UFO retarded hitboxes.