/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>Is /jp/ the most elitist board on 4chan with the highest requirements to be able to fit in?
No, that's /mu/

>Every self-respecting /jp/ user at least needs to have a solid background of animes watched to rant about how shitty the industry has become.

back to /a/ you go.

Or you bypass all of that and dedicate yourself to spam the shit out of the board.

Welcome to the Winter of '10 season in /jp/. If we survive or collapse depends entirely on our attitude during the coming months.

>>6577579

I used to post on /mu/ years ago. It's pretty easy to understand the discussion by downloading a few flavor of the month albums and then pretend to know what you're talking about.

This isn't really worth discussing, but I don't think most of /jp/ hates current anime, rather, the userbase have almost burnt out of it and can't have much as much fun anymore.

Well, those are the people /jp/ is meant for, so if you don't satisfy those criteria you probably aren't interested in it anyway.

no we are very welcoming people really

Just take your offtopic elsewhere

i'm still trying to finish all the touhou games on normal, So far I've only gotten PCB and IN 1cced on normal ;_;

Fuck you, I just post Touhous.

No. The main requirement to be a /jp/er is the ability to take it easy (don't get into retarded arguments or respond to trolls), chase out people who don't know what the fuck they're doing, and generally not act like a faggot. There are no arbitrary achievement criteria to be an acceptable /jp/er.

>>6577573
Since most of us are from old /a/, /jp/ has a lot of veterans. We're a relatively good board. But thanks to a few rotten apples /jp/ has become just as bad (if not worse) than the other boards. Even with our dedicated janitor, the board still went to shit.

protip: you can avoid most of the flaming even without "meeting the requirements" by LURKING THE FUCK MORE and learning how a board different than /b/ and flavored /b/s work.

>>6577595
Sorry, I'm afraid I'm going to have to revoke your license to post on /jp/. Come back when you can at least 1CC SA on normal mode.
Don't worry about it, just even being able to clear one game is more than most of those secondaries.

>>6577579
I was about to comment that fitting in on /mu/ doesn't involve having any kind of expertise in any field of music, you just need to have something you hate and act like hating this makes you better than them, but then I realized that's exactly how /jp/ is too. You don't really need to have a high VN powerlevel to fit in, you just need to pick some VNs you hate, and say "the VNs I play are so much better than those shitty VNs".

I never played Touhou, nor any VN. Since I've got nothing to discuss with you, all I do is mostly shitposting.

>Read Umineko
>Read Fate Stay Night
>Play any three Touhou games

You can now post in 80% of all non-troll posts in /jp/.

>>6577624
This. I can't get into /jp/ hobbies but I keep on coming here.

The problem with /jp/ is that there's a very vocal minority of hostile, angry, bitter neckbearded manchildren that will find any reason they can to hate you. Most of us take it easy and don't really care. Then you have the others who genuinely have autism or aspergers that make daily dose threads.

>>6577624
>>6577627
If you don't spam memes and otherwise generally act like a retard, your posting is still a cut above a special class of terrible posters who make their way here.

If you do, well, fuck.

I wouldn't say so. I used to be a bit of a board hopper before settling here. Haven't watched too much anime, barely read VNs at all, play Touhou some and mediocre at it and haven't had problems.

oh god i just realized op's pic is from komachi's POV

>>6577636
Nice, isn't it?

>>6577628
>>6577626
Those. And also take it easy.

>>6577628
I don't mind daily dose threads if they're actually made precisely once a day, not remade if they're deleted, and then people sage them like they're supposed to so they don't float at the top of page zero all the time.

But this is too fucking hard for some people.

/jp/ is not a slow moving board. Go look at /ic/. I am pretty sure ice floes move faster.

Though to be fair, I think if you got rid of all the posts involving random anime screenshots, it would be much slower.

>>6577573

I've been on 4chan just for 1 year and a half and i heard on /a/ like 1 year ago that all elitists had already left /jp/ and now the board was nothing more than tripfaggotry and "lol so randum Touhou threads", i also keep seeing people on /a/ saying that everyone on /jp/ is a newfag pretending to be an oldfag.

Is the like second death of /jp/ for you guys?

>>6577658
Wow, you're like a baby

>>6577624
I haven't played VN in a long time, don't play Touhou that much anymore (nothing new to experience), and stalled out on my Japanese studies. I guess I still come here for "the community", although /jp/ now is almost entirely just spam and the tripfriends acting out their weird little games. Nothing can be discussed without breaking down within a few posts into a meta-argument about whether or not it belongs on /jp/.

So yeah I actually have no idea why I'm here. I don't spam or purposefully shitpost, just make useless posts like this one inside useless threads like this one. Still have a lot of fun here though.

The people here should accept you as long as you are not a retard. Also, don't think that everyone is going to suck your dick just because you 1CC'd SA on Lunatic without losing a single life or using any bombs.

If you're a Touhou fan, though, people would have a better image of you if you at least have tried playing the games once. The kind of person that believes Cirno is their waifu just because they watched Cirno's Perfect Math Class on YouTube and avoids the games because they're "too hard" is absolutely despised here, for example.

>>6577624

Same with me. I'm here for the 80s/90s Japanese PC game/console import threads that pop up once in a blue moon.

oh and Saten, too.

>>6577658
> people on /a/ saying that everyone on /jp/ is a newfag pretending to be an oldfag
The truth is probably the opposite.

I think /jp/ is the most jaded board.

>>6577664

Ah... ok.

>>6577624
I'm here because I'm too lazy to leave.

The worst part of /jp/ has always been metathreads, like this one. Yes, they're even worse (though not by much) than the RP threads that pop up.

>>6577658
/jp/ dies all the time, but like a fairy, it respawns.

The question every time it dies is whether it will respawn.

Shikieiki, said, after all, that nothing natural lives forever.

The only threads on /jp/ I enjoy are:
/a/ threads (anime and manga, also sometimes threads with things brought over from /a/ like namefags, mfw, and other stupid memes)
/b/ threads (ニコニコ動画, and the like)
/v/ threads (as long as the game isn't mainstream)

>>6577697
Me too

You're not supposed to tell anyone, though!

>>6577682
You forgot about ronery threads (in the style of /a/) and meetup threads.

>>6577669
Being jaded is the result of insufficient amount of cynicism.

>>6577666
I second this and I'm too lazy to add more.

>The people here should accept you as long as you are not a retard.
This is important.

>>6577709
I was trying to forget those existed. Fuck.

>>6577709
Japanese bird cooking pasta

FOUR HOOPS

>>6577716
Hoops is a classic. How dare you.

/jp/ has relatively good quality posts. It's just a shame we have few (new) things to discuss.

>>6577628
>Then you have the others who genuinely have autism or aspergers that make daily dose threads.
>genuinely
This is what some people overlook and just assume you meant 4chan's meaning of aspergers. There really is a lot of mentally unstable users here who are willing to do anything to make themselves feel better. Their lives are bad so they take it out on the Internet.

/jp/ is an elitist board, but only because we have a low tolerance for tripfags and idiots (but i repeat myself)

>>6577709
Those are really rare, though. Meme threads are more common and also (arguably) worse if people are genuinely participating.

>>6577718
Meant to reply to >>6577704

>>6577720
We'd have tons if some horizons got broadened, if you know what I mean.

>>6577722
Yeah, if you see someone being angry on /jp/ (saying posters should leave for another board, content x is off-topic, etc.), chances are he's mentally unstable.

>>6577726
... /jp/ doesn't really care about tripfags just because they are tripfags. We only care about the tripfags who actually are idiots.

i don't see /jp/ as a refuge for any specific board
it's more like the people that have been on 4chan since 2003 all coming together, but not talking about any aspects of 4chan's past

we all know what it was like
we were all there
the differences in things other that board speed are few, and we only seem to gather here for the familiarity of the old ways

it's like a retirement center, we're all bitter and slow

>>6577740

I wish everyone shared your enlightened perspective, Anonymous.

>>6577771
Everybody in /jp/ who isn't a moron shares this view.

Maybe they don't share it outside /jp/ because the tripfags outside are all terrible. I wouldn't know.

>>6577738
>Yeah, if you see someone being angry on /jp/ (saying posters should leave for another board, content x is off-topic, etc.), chances are he's mentally unstable.
Hello /a/ spammer. Don't put words in my mouth. The only users I would describe as having Asperger Syndrome are the ones who spam the same content everyday. The JBCS guy was not autistic since he did it with an automated script, but this Raildex guy is doing it by hand.

>>6577740
> We only care about the tripfags who actually are idiots.
But all tripfags[1] are idiots.

[1] Definition of name/tripfag: Person that uses a name other than Anonymous to refer to a poster.

>>6577791
The whole "go back to /*/" shit pops up in a lot more than just spam threads.

>>6577627

I'm like that, except with /tg/ instead of /jp/

Why on earth would you come here if you don't read VNs, aren't interested in Touhou, or play some of the doujin games (soku, melty blood) they have on here? /jp/ does not exactly have pleasant users

>>6577791
I'm not saying they have Asperger's syndrome. They probably suffer from psychopathia.

>>6577810
Why the fuck would you come here if you did actually want to talk about any of that stuff? /jp/ is probably one of the last places I would come to for a serious, in-depth discussion about a visual novel.

I'm just here to hang out with the other odd-balls.
I'm awful at Touhou, but I know a bit of Jap and now I'm playing that tank game.

>>6577823

I mostly meant "get updated on VN translation efforts" because that's pretty much the only useful VN related thread I can think of, but point taken nonetheless. It rarely seems like people want to talk about VNs so much as insult them. Heck, even recommendation style threads are usually responded to along the lines of "Get out of /jp/," possibly alongside an image containing a two year old set of VN recommendations or something

>>6577837
You're an example for other newcomers to /jp/.

>>6577843
> I mostly meant "get updated on VN translation efforts"
That's reposted on several other web sights.

>>6577843
>recommendation style threads
There's no reason for one of these to be any longer than five posts. People will recommend one or two VNs and hand over a chart. There's no actual discussion to be had.

As for the others, try discussing something that hasn't already been completely discussed to death already.

Ya know it's fine if you visit /jp/ as a newfriend or someone who doesn't even play Touhou or read VNs. Just for the love of god lurk instead of shitpost.

>>6577846
Yeah, I'm a huge faggot and I've been here just as long as you.
I also enjoy ronery threads and the occasional room thread.

Fuck yeah, meta discussion.

>>6577880
I see no reason why a fresh newfag would shitpost on /jp/.

The ones that do shitpost are the ones that start their 4chan career on some bad board like /a/.

>>6577882
Ronery threads are barely acceptable if they conform to a very narrow set of specifications. Most of them don't.

>>6577573

This post proves you will never fit in here.

>>6577887
Vast majority of shitposting on /jp/ is done by a small group of individuals who have been here for a very long time.

>>6577887
Everybody who is new to /jp/ gets called a newfag around here. Nobody cares if you've been posting in /v/ since 2005.

>>6577903
> Everybody who is new to /jp/ gets called a newfag around here.
I don't think so, the people who get called newfags are probably trolls who think up schemes like:
"Hurr, I'll post a thread pretending to be a newfag with bad grammar and if someone replies i win xD"
They win every time.

>>6577903
>Everybody gets called a newfag around here.
fix'd

>>6577908
Well, okay, everybody you can tell is new to /jp/ gets called a newfag. If you're new but you blend right in obviously nobody is going to call you on. For example, despite not being an outright troll you are an extraordinary newfag because you presume to tell us how the board works while not having the decency to sage a retarded metathread.

Idiots in /jp/ rarely discuss anything on topic, and when they do some idiot has to derail it with shitty sages and witless one liner. Make a serious thread about a /jp/ related topic, the first few posts is gonna be a sage. The next few posts are going to be oneliners, then a couple more posts is the threadstarter samefagging to keep it afloat.

I have no solid background of animes watched. That's why I'm not at fucking /a/.

KNOW YOUR TOUHOUS.

That is all.

i've never seen the term newfag used on this board till this thread

I have no solid background of animes watched. That's why I'm not at fucking /a/.

KNOW YOUR TOUHOUS.

That is all.

>>6577918
You are using "newfag" and "sage" wrong.

I'm there only since august but I've learned a lot about VN/doujin thanks to /jp/. And I can tell for sure /jp/ has the merit of being one of my favorite source of information and having great upload threads.
Also, /jp/ is quite funny when it comes down to responding to trolls/translation requests/sharing nicovideo links.
And despite all the railgun spam, you're great, /jp/.

>>6577931
Nobody actually says newfag. They just say get out.

>>6577928
You're a goddamned retard. Get out.

>>6577936
>And despite all the railgun spam
What's wrong with Railgun? I thought it was a solid 6/10 anime. Not enough filler though, that was the best part of it.

>>6577934
No. It's correct. If you bump a metathread to the top of page zero you are a newfriend and a moron.

>>6577939

>>6577908
>I don't think so, the people who get called newfags are probably trolls who think up schemes like:
>"Hurr, I'll post a thread pretending to be a newfag with bad grammar and if someone replies i win xD"
>They win every time.
Case in point:
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/image/rN5SXStcGHK7yg1PRG8N-g

>>6577937
>You're a goddamned retard. Get out.

Speak of the devil. Complain about idiots and one pops up to help me prove my point! How convenient.

>>6577939
The content of the show doesn't matter when it's spammed here to death.

>>6577950
> http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/image/rN5SXStcGHK7yg1PRG8N-g
I lol'd.

>>6577940
Maybe not a moron. I suppose that might be one of the more subtle points. Still new, there's nothing wrong with being new unless you show it to the world. Lurk some more.

>>6577954
I just hide the threads when I don't feel like discussing the show.

>>6577940
That's your super jaded /jp/-sense talking. He seems like an overall decent poster, he just missed something, that's all. Being unfriendly to visitors who don't know what they're doing is one thing, but unwarranted hostility is something else entirely.

>>6577965
> He thinks I forgot to sage.

>>6577969
You did. It wasn't a stealthsage because it was in the middle of page zero, and suddenly it was at the top of page zero, and you were the only person who didn't have sage in the email field.

If I sage, how will people read what I have to say?

>>6577977
What I tried to say was that I never sage. I gladly bump up a shitty thread from page 10 just to reply to some point.

>>6577982
What you write probably isn't worth reading 9 times out of 10.

>>6577989
That's true. Usually when I write stuff on /jp/ it's for my own amusement. I enjoy writing it more than I care if others will read it.

>>6577986
Well, if you insist on keeping shitty threads on the front page all the time, it's not like we can stop you.

>>6577996
You could hide the shitty thread and open any good threads in tabs and keep them automatically updating.

I do this, but instead of keeping track of good threads I keep track of metathreads and good trolls. (Because there's so rarely discussion in good threads. I check them the day after when they have been deleted instead.)

>>6577989
you mean 10 out of 10

>>6578012
>>6577986
You are a very silly man.

>>6578137
I have nothing to say to you.

There's a reason because I check this board, and that's Melty Blood and other games

>>6578185
>He still plays MBAC

>>6577986
Same here. If I post, then obviously I want people to see my post, else why the fuck would I even bother to post? Sage is a stupid concept.

>>6578204
It may surprise you to learn that in /jp/, people actually navigate past page zero.

>elitist
>highest requirements
>self-respecting
>/jp/ user
>4chan is turning into shit as opposed to always having been shit.

0/10

>>6577843
>recommendation style threads
I see no reason for this if you LURK THE FUCK MORE instead of getting spoonfed.
/jp/ is not your tech support board or download links provider as well.

>>6577573
> Is /jp/ the most elitist board on 4chan with the highest requirements to be able to fit in?
I don't know, probably not. I'd call /prog/ reasonably elitist, but /prog/'s userbase is much smaller than /jp/'s and is easily overrun by spammers and /b/tards, which just leads to temporary deaths when we just ignore the board. That's the fate when there is no active meido. /jp/ can be a bit elitist, but that's because we try to maintain our identity (used to be old /a/ posters, some going back to very early /b/ (under 3-10mil)). I find /jp/ itself to be laid back and mostly fine, at least when there are no silly crossboard raids (unusually common lately). /jp/ itself arised because more generic non-anime/manga conversation (VN's, doujin games, including tohoes) was becoming unwelcome on /a/ with moderation deleting and censoring stuff left and right, which eventually lead to moot making this board and us enjoying our sanctuary without being disturbed too much. It was mostly that more hardcore part of /a/ that went on to join /jp/ exclusively after the split (at least, I haven't gone back to /a/ in years, except for rare visits).

> Every self-respecting /jp/ user at least needs to have a solid background of animes watched to rant about how shitty the industry has become.
We try not to talk about anime much on /jp/ as that's what /a/ is supposed to be for, but speaking from personal experience, I've been watching it for years and in large quantities, probably way exceeding that "anime expert's" lists by far. I don't really talk much about anime, except with some friends on IRC.

>>6578429
> Then, at least a good list of well-known VNs should have been read. All touhou games are required to be played and finished on Normal at the very least.
If you're going to participate in VN discussion, it would be wise to have played at least most of the translated stuff, and if you know japanese, the rest of the classics, however there's nothing wrong with just playing the latest and newest, like some people do. Being completly clueless is looked down upon as it's easy to search the archive or vndb. Similar requirements apply to touhou or other games you want to discuss - you should know the source material, if you want to discuss. I wouldn't say being a touhou fan is much of a requirement here, but I would be surprised if I found many people who aren't.
> Also, most users are fleeing from /a/ and the rest of the boards because 4chan has gone to shit in the last 3 years. Every /jp/ user should be able to explain how bad 4chan has become, and how far it is from the original intention of the site. And state that he has no idea why he is still visiting these boards.
I don't visit too many boards these days, just 2-3 regularily (including /jp/). Others on blue moons.
> Finally, general knowledge as to how an imageboard is supposed to be used. I think we and another slow moving boards are the only ones who actually understand how sage should be used.
People should be familiar with how their platforms work, stupidity should not be encouraged.

PS: damn you moots and your anti-sage flood detection, why must you force me to bump my threads.

>Is /jp/ the most elitist board on 4chan with the highest requirements to be able to fit in?

No. But you should get out now.

How old is "veteran" anyway? I've been here since 2005, and still don't particularly feel like an oldfag (I think of 2003 when I hear that) but I've seen much newer people act like they're tough shit.

>>6578433
You only have to wait 30 more seconds, it's hardly an eternity.

>>6578518
2005 is just fine as long as you don't keep talking about how everything was just that much better back then.

/jp/ is the board that demands perfection from its users while offering none of its own.

>>6578518
2005 seems pretty old nowadays.
I'm from 2004 and I don't even want to think about how much time I have wasted in that place.