/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Get some EU up here bitches, can't host

bump for NA hosts

WC
96.225.211.242:7500
Can't play too long though.
Bird/Bird eating tier.

F5'ing in hopes of a host.

Okay, now you're just being an asshole.

>>6545694
C'mon guy. Who doesn't want to land Massacre whenever you have it out?

>>6545694
Well, in any case, I apologize if it offended you.

Anyone?

Maybe in an hour or two.

>>6545483
Rehosting.

>>6547007
GGs arc, favorable delay and lag while playing me as always~

It's a bit late for me now, so i'm gonna bail, GGs again~

GGs. Pissed at Reimu. j.66A won't fucking come out. Stop eating shitting kicks, you piece of crap miko.

>>6547242
It's the delay man, playing on shit internet across the country. Don't sweat it though, I'm kinda disappointed with my China too. I have a habit of baiting and chicken blocking conquer dashes because I find it much easier to combo from if I dash or BE towards Aya when she's down. Doesn't work out too well in high delay though....

75.18.195.50, west coast hosting~

>>6547317
75.18.195.50:10800, that is

Sorry about that, back in a sec.

ggs anon

work on HJCing more.

>>6547630
ggs, thanks for the games~

you should tech more on recovery, mix things up a bit

>>6547640
and thanks for the advice, by the way

>>6547640

Against better players teching on recovery will take off a fourth of your health per tech.

>>6547668
Wait, so you should never tech on recovery, ever? I learned something new today.

>>6547770

It's okay if they don't expect it but generally it's a bad idea.

>>6547786
I suppose. He was eating a couple unblockable Cirno 22C alts by getting up there, though, but I suppose that's just because neither of us are particularly good players.

>>6547803

I don't usually play Cirno and I was having trouble playing well by the time I switched to Alice.

>>6547855
Mm, I see. Your Komachi does a number on all my characters, though.

I checked the wiki for a sec and it seems like it's actually not possible escape Cirno's alt 22C if you don't tech if Cirno is camping your recovery, so I'm guessing that's one of the few times you should tech for sure.

>>6547887
That is so wrong.

It's grazable. I even grazed it once.

>>6547921
The wiki says "particularly effective if you can score a corner knockdown during Diamond Dust, since the opponent will be unable to tech away from a 22B/C okizeme and jumping/grazing has a few frames of activation."

Not that it's guaranteed to be right or that I even know the slightest bit about what I'm talking about, but that's what I read.

>>6547929

I mean, it's not a bad skill.
One of the few grabs in the game and a good one at that.
It's just once your opponent learns to graze it your gonna have to mix it up a bit more than just occasionally throwing it out to land it.

>>6547929
The wiki is FULL of shit. You're honestly better off testing everything yourself in training mode.

80.220.201.200:10800
Finland

>>6548561
No, the wiki is right. What it's describing is theoretically possible but it would be incredibly hard to time it right offline and next to impossible online.

>>6549040
Good games, most of them felt unusually long too.

>>6549589
Good games, long games is one of the biggest problems with this game if you ask me, and the weather changes are more likely to disrupt the pacing rather than speeding things up. Stupid River Mist.

bump

Oh sweet Soku thread, I finally found you back !

Hey /jp/, I was seriously wondering, what will we do when the IPv4 will definitely end?

Can we expect an update for IPv6 compatibility? (I don't think so...)

>>6551066
Continue not hosting as usual.

Some people actually host sometimes...

But will we be totally unable to do it after?

>>6546102

Fine, but not for long. I have finals to study for.

>>6545483

>>6545483
ggs

What! Players? Still on /jp/!? I'll host to the occassion!

99.129.153.38:10800
US Central

Hosting (I think...)
79.97.234.49: 10800
Irish...

bump for NA

>>6551815
Still here...if I'm doing it right....

>>6551642
GGs

That was an incredibly fun set, lots of "WTF!" moments. Thanks for the matches!

75.18.195.50:10800, west coast~

>>6553826
Did you stop hosting already?

>>6553871
Somebody joined my game.

>>6553922
That's strange, it gave me the "connection failed" message instead of the usual "would you like to spectate" one.

>>6553980
That's what happens when disallow spectators is on.

>>6554048
I don't think I turned it on... oh well. Good games~

>>6554048

No, when spectating is disabled the game says "spectating not allowed"
For some reason the game handles spectators a bit odd and sometimes games can't be spectated for some reason or other even if spectating is allowed

skabump

us hosts?

>>6554804
From how I understand it, spectating works like this:

- First spectator connects to host
- Any spectators after that connect to the first spectator
- If the first spectator doesn't have their ports forwarded, no one else can connect.

I guess they put this in to reduce bandwidth, but it's still odd.

65.31.150.147:10800
US Midwest

>>6555132
ggs

>>6555132
Good games.

Hosting 79.80.169.162:10800 EU

>>6555283
GGs. Fun games. Really sorry but gotta go.
Maybe I'd have a chance if any of Sakuya's strings and combos would work on Youmu. Maybe. But your way superior BE skill made me never be able to use her oki cards in the way I wanted. Did I get you with j2a even once? Don't think so.

>>6555283
GGs.
Now that is a mean reaction to our dear and loved friend typhoon, eh.

>>6549040
Hosting.

Are tengu fans any good?

>>6544915
Can you give a death sentence to a ghost? She's already dead.

85.26.37.223:10800
EU
inb4 IPv6 tier

Any USA or Canada players still about? Youmu/China player here.

98.245.170.238:10801

US west/central, continental divide. Haven't slept in two days tier.

>>6556726
Sorry, but that lagfest isn't really enjoyable.
Hosting again.

>>6556866
Thanks for the games, stranger. Rehosting.

>>6556866
Thanks for the games just need to reset my router and reconfigure the buttons on this pad. I'll be right back if no one steals the slot with a hopefully less laggy connection.

New England
66.181.225.204:10800

Useless bunny tier.

Thanks for the games, Cats~

Rerehosting: >>6556866

>>6557065
Thanks for the games, From Vanuatu to Vinland~

Rererehosting: >>6556866

I should be sleeping...~

>>6557065
Stopped for now because it seemed like every other match at the end suddenly faded to black. Thanks for hosting though.

>>6557299
Oh, I didn't even notice that it desynced...

>>6557034
Still hosting, no takers?

>>6557309
Not even when we both had half our bars left in the first round on the last match we did? Not faulting you or anything just annoyed that it did that a few times before towards the end of matches so I just stopped after that.

>>6556918
Thanks for the games and GGs Kaali.
That was a fun and enjoyable session.

>>6557665
Good games, I made some stupid mistakes which got a good laugh out of me.

>>6557673
Same here, I did some stupid things as well, but it wasn't unpleasant.
I liked your Sanae suicide.

>>6557686
Yeah, that and the one Yukari, Sakuya match where you get me with the alt 22.
It was fun to play against someone on about the same level too.

>>6557298
I've never played against someone with movement like yours. I couldn't even touch you and ate every single graze trap and crossup.

Sorry my router reset randomly. It likes to do that. I should probably stop anyway. I'm going to need a week or two to recover from that.

>>6557298
That sure didn't seem like a ragequit, so I'll attribute it to random disconnects. GGs. At first, you would graze every chance you got. Even if there are bullets to graze, it's not always the best answer to graze them. Kind of like Wonder Woman deflecting bullets that aren't even going to hit her, know what I mean? Yes, I do want you to block some key bullets, but it's important to pick and choose which ones you -do- decide to graze.

Also, you've got to use your cards more. I know I'm not exactly giving you free chances to use anything, but there were a lot of matches where you'd be stuck with the same hand for the entire match, and I'd run out of cards(or nearly). People usually don't agree with my preference of running proxy system cards like frozen frog and parasol, but it forces the deck to flow the way you want it to, without having to really throw away a card.

>>6557794
I'm hopelessly dash happy. I'm a poor judge of when I should and shouldn't. If I don't, you'll end up crushing me, and if I do, you'll get a free combo. Heck, there was that one match where I BE'd over and over like an idiot and got crushed a dozen times. I was stuck with a single orb for the few moments before you ravaged me.

In the end, there was so much fear that I couldn't do anything. Thank you for the tips, but at the moment, I just don't feel like I'm cut out for this game.

Also thanks for the games~

>>6557864
Link to tool?

>>6557900
http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/wiki/Misc_tools#Tensokukan_-_Tenco_Stats_Tracker

>>6551829

Very well. Just until around 5 though.

>>6545483

>>6558391
You snooze, you lose.

Will soku 'caster' let us have more than 4 cards in a deck again?

>>6559427
Since it can do "Fish Decks" where all 20 cards are fish, then I'd say yes, it can.

>>6559449
I can see it now. A deck with 20 "Three Heavenly Drops" cards.

necrobump

>>6559603
...So? It resets every 3, not once you use it twice, all further uses give invincibility. Using 3 cards for a few seconds isn't that useful.

Bump

>>6561606
using a 4th card while the 3rd is activated will reset the timer to 7 seconds, so you can get around 14 seconds of invuln when you have a 4th card on you. i'd imagine it'll just continue doing that on 5th, 6th, etc. card, so you could extend invuln pretty damn long.

Hosting in case anyone else is up this early.
65.31.150.147:10800
US Midwest

>>6556806

Feeling like playing some rounds. If any that can host wants to, please post IP.

>>6563294
I'm kind of tired but I guess I could play a few games.

65.31.150.147:10800
US Midwest

88.114.149.135:10800 Eu
Finland tier

>>6563326
Good game, but a bit too much lag.

>>6563396
Yeah that lag was terrible. Thanks for at least playing one game though.

5.216.48.108:10800

>>6563409
hamachi address

>>6563421
5.216.48.108

>>6555283
rehosting

>>6563363
Good games, even though I wasn't much of a challenge at all.
I hope I learned atleast something.

>>6563363
GGs.

Maybe you should stick to few characters rather than randoming. Learning to BE and HJ while pressured could help your game too.

>>6563442
GGs. You should try to add high-jump cancels to your bullets once in a while. You can do this by holding up during a bullet/special move. It allows you to act faster after it, and makes for more options once you are in the air. You can't spend most of your time on the ground, or you'll become too predictable!

>>6563544
GGs.
Okay ty for the advice.

bump for hosts

85.26.37.223:10800
EU host
inb4 IPv6 tier

Hosting:

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
I'm bleeding, making me the victor.

>>6565991
GGs, but the lag got pretty bad, and was probably ruining our game play, and much of the fun. Good to see people brave enough to do random, and with some grace.

>>6565991
GGs Su, thanks for the games.
It's always a pleasure to play against a far better opponent, even more against a Komachi (a mind blowing opponent for me).
Ofc you didn't play much seriously against me, but it was still helpful.

>>6566249
Yeah, sorry for the random lag, don't know what caused it.

>>6566256
If I should comment on something in our matches it must be your agressive use of BE. You did take me by surprise at times, especially in air. It's too slow to go in between staggered melee, and I doubt your earning ratio will look any good if you're experimenting. But experimenting is good, and you need to fail sometimes in order to learn. I'd say after Komachi's 6/3a is the best opportunity to do a dd6, unless the player is running an alt. with melee properties (which you did), or have a SC with melee properties in the deck. I have the feeling I was forgetting something in my strings, but that's only natural when focusing on other games; I joined on a whim when I saw an EU host on the front page.

But yeah, fun games; haven't seen you around.

>>6566309
People often points my overusage of BE and IT IS a bad habit.
Yet it works better usually, but Komachi is a character against whom I really shouldn't BE too much. (Correct dial-A, melee specials, etc)

And yeah, I don't play often, yet I'd like to.

>>6565991
Hosting for a few more games.

>>6566363
Yup, laggy...

Re-hosting.

>>6566363
That was a bad idea to try and see if I could have a non laggy match with someone from EU. Ah well, gg. I don't wanna try again after that lag.

Okay. I'll play a little bit. I need a short break from writing papers.

>>6545483

>>6566358
I surely don't mind, I see it so seldom anyway. There are those who don't know how to do it, those who don't care about it, and those who are so much better than yourself that they easily escapes your preassure without the need of it, only using it in rare cases, which in turn greatens their chances of doing it successfully. And then there's me and you and the likes - we both seek opportunities to do successfull BEs, and end up experimenting and in cases overusing it. Let me tell you - I always BE after Yuyuko's 5aa, 3a, and 6a, or 421b for that matter, when pinned in the corner; or else I end up taking chances - chances that makes me look bad for thinking I could punish or escaping with 'that' gesture.. ;_;

The only downfall is that it tempt the opponent into focusing on baiting BE rather than the usual stuff. E.g. I ended up overusing dial-A staggers, without it failing me too much.

>>6565991
This lag's getting worse. Sorry dude. GGs anyway.

>>6566431
GGs, sorry for the lag, don't know what caused it.
I'd like to play a bit more against you, but guess it's time for me to get some sleep.
And I need to fix this damn co.

>>6566474
I'm terribly bad against pressure, I often never know what to do at all, sitting in the corner and chicken guarding.
That's pretty much why I started to use BE and tried to use it correctly.

And you're right, when you overuse it, your opponent starts to focus on it and it weakens his pressure game.
Now you can just stop using it (or not too often) and it works well... That's the part where I suck.
I'm working on it, but this Komachi was so mind blowing for me that I totally forgot about it.

Well, I hope I'll have the occasion to play more against you. That was really interesting.

Enough for me. GGs. Back to work.

>>6566431
GG
Have little experience against Reimus, I keep forgetting her projectiles don't break when collided with mine.

And yes, I suck with anyone who isn't Youmu.

>>6566612
Late reply:
Komachi is obviously not my main, but I'm playing with her "full-time", when I'm playing the game. I've picked up most of my BnB tactics from replays, which many other in a certain level of play will do; so I think you will face a similar Komachi in due time, and proably much better ones, than mine if you keep playing (and visit diverse communities). Those tactics I make for myself, accordingly to my style of play, is far from great, and mostly very demanding on situation criteria. I still have some bad habits, I've changed up a few times, and only reacently made a 'final' decision on my main deck with her.. I'd say my gravest issue with Komachi is the match-ups - some of them really sucks (and vice versa?), and demotivates some - but that's the thing when learning new characters with an established fundation. Certain issues may very well be individual. I figure the main thing saving grace is the rarity of good Komachi players (not promoting myself to be good in skill); but Magister should take over if there's general stuff to say about Komachi. He's obviously around, that storyteller. So yeah, that's me blogging about my Komachi thing. Move along.

Do tell if there's some characters you're more comfortable with than others in the selection.

Wishing for a host to play with.

>>6566100
Rehosting, he thinks losing is winning tier.

>>6567081
Too bad I have to cut it short Johan, but food is ready. Good games, sorry for leaving before giving you a chance to completely download my Suika. Okuu was a good choice to switch to, though.

>>6567197
GGs, Yea it was a matter of time, but it was pretty hard to play with that kind of skip frames

Bump

Any hosts?

>>6567053
Even more late reply :
I can't say I'm comfortable against any characters (since I don't play enough against much better opponents (which means almost everyone), I can't confirm this) but I can at least say I'm very weak against Suwako and Komachi, maybe because I don't really know how to play them.

Same goes for the characters I play, since I random almost everytime, I don't really have a main (even if my fav is Alice). Yet I can say I'll NEVER be able to play Marisa, I just can't, don't know why. I'm also terribly bad with Suwako, Komachi, Cirno and Aya, but at least I like playing them.

(And yeah, I already played once against Magister, it was a painful experience, but I hadn't half of my actual level back then (Woah, I sucked))

About communities, I played a bit around the IRC channel, but I'm often too lazy to connect and find an opponent. Otherwise I don't know where to look for some games.

98.245.170.238:10801

US west/central, continental divide.

>>6549040
Hosting.

65.31.150.147:10800
US Midwest

78.30.178.32 Europe
I'm very new to this, please go easy on me

>>6569664
Good games.

>>6569664
GGs Kaali, really fun games imo.
It's always pleasant to play against someone with the same level and I really enjoyed myself.
I don't have much to say, except maybe that Iku's 5cards sc is really cheap, even more with a surprise Typhoon

>>6569959
Might be so, but truth be told I didn't even notice if it was a typhoon that got me in to it at some point.

bump for NA

>>6555283
rehosting

>>6570324
Good games

>>6570324
GGs, I was going to stop too, there was quite a bit of permanent slow-down.
rehosting, EU

>>6570324
GGs

>>6570547
GGs.

>>6570253

Hosting:

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest

>>6570917
What the hell is with these disconnects? Rehosting.

>>6570917
My connection keeps dropping. Sorry for the trouble.

>>6570953
Don't worry about it, thanks for letting me know.

>>6569789
Thanks for the games, Duckator. I give up, my butt hurts, I will never beat your Sakuya.

>>6569789
Wow, that was almost 100 games. I don't think I've ever played that many in a row before. Well I'm beat, good games. I'm glad I finally got a chance to try out some characters I don't normally use.

>>6571401
>mfw duckator only uses sakuya against me

>>6571418
It was so nice that he was kind enough to let me win a few. ;_;

That feel when Duckator gets you to airblock a knife, then combos off of airunblockable 3A for over 2k damage.

>>6571477
Should have border escaped.

>>6571418
Usually I stick with Sakuya if my opponent is only using one character. Next time if you want me to play someone else just mash cancel or something.

Any hosts?

68.59.144.110:10800 EC
Mid-shit to average tier.

75.35.0.133:10800, West Coast

>>6571532
Eh? Not hosting anymore?

>>6571532
Sorry, needed to restart my router.
Rehosting.

85.29.88.61:10800
Finland

>>6571557
Doesn't work, unless you stopped hosting.

>>6571632
I'm a box of failure. Rehosted.

>>6571611
GGs, but that was a ton of lag.

Rehosting.

>>6571532
Good games. I've really gotten worse. Sorry for the boring matches.

>>6571650
No longer hosting, I got a few games off someone from IRC but apparently I lag like a box of kittens.

That was an inaccurate comparison.

>>6571708

Playing Blazblue then this after was not a good idea, I totally forgot my contorl set=up :\

I would do a rematch now that i've got it figured out but it's too laggy, sorry!

>>6571708
Well, that was a short session. GG.

>>6571611
Rehosting again.

>>6571724
Good games Aegir, by no means was I bored. I havn't played in a while so I don't know how good I am these days but I had to be cautious in some matchups. Thanks for the games!

>>6570917
Rehosting.

>>6572121
Good games, Turtle. I liked your deck, you were making it work for you.

>>6572121
There's no way you live in the us. That was crazy slow. gg I guess.

>>6571744
Good games, but I believe it's time for me to stop dashing and ending my block at the wrong times.
And I really should stick to one character more than just that.

>>6572474
Good games.

>I believe it's time for me to stop dashing and ending my block at the wrong times.
Yeah, there's a lot of holes in my pressure, you'll just need to find the right moment. Luckily we don't have much input lag.

>And I really should stick to one character more than just that.
I enjoy those random matches but sure, it'll be a lot easier to learn a single character than all of them.

But why did it seem like 90% of the time the random select gave me one of my joke decks? I have only one for each character.

>>6572522
Well, it's not that I'm not liking the random games, but I have a feeling that by sticking to one character it would be easier for me to learn when to do certain things and not be such a punching bag that I am right now.

>>6572555
Just keep in mind that most opponents will probably also stick to their mains if you do. I know I will, it's not fun to be the only one playing random.

yuyupost

Weird question, but do anybody else's dogs hate the Soku title screen music? Mine immediately get up and leave the room whenever I turn the game on. They don't freak out, they just refuse to be in the same room. They have no problem if I mute it first and go into a match, but mine seem to hate something about the menu.

>>6573610
It's because of that annoying mechanical sound in the first few seconds.

bump

Okay, fine. For a little while.

>>6545483

How about not being a cunt, eh?

>>6574246
Good games ArcTangent! Did something come up at the end there?

>>6574376
Not sure if this was referring to me going for a Suika slam dunk at the end. But whats wrong with going for a flashy finish?

How many players are left?

88.114.149.135:10800 Eu FI
Damn good tier

>>6576045
I'll consider that GG no re. You way outclassed me.
I'd really love a fight with a lower skill west coaster, but I'm afraid of throwing my IP up here.

>>6576056
Don't play Europeans next time or it'll just be slowmode like that. GG.

>>6576045
>Damn good tier
This is why we can't have nice things.

Anyone in NA up?

>>6555283
rehosting, EU only

>>6576628
GGs

>>6571611
Hosting.

>>6576975
GGs.

>>6576976
Well that was interesting, my computer just completely locked up all of a sudden.

I can try rehosting and hope that this doesn't happen again.

>>6576976
Let's say GGs, I wasn't planning to play too much anyway.
Seems like FR - FI is pretty bad these days, we can't even get 63 fps. I've heard from another Finn that the problem originates from his ISP, must be similar for you. I hope it won't last too long.

>>6577094
Oh ok, GGs then. My computer's been acting up quite a bit today so maybe it's best to stop here for today, it's not fun to have the game cut like that.

>>6571487
I'm not familiar with him doing this sort of thing to me. I guess I have to play him again one of these days.

Hosts?

85.26.37.223:10800
EU HOST
Completely drunk tier. (Seriously)

>>6578314
Not eu, sadly.

>>6578322
Sorry, I can't wait for an opponent, it will be aweomse.
No one wants to fight a totally drunk guy?

I know you want it !

>>6578328
I don't know who played against me but GGs, was fun, even if laggy... I guess I need some sleep, see you...

How about some late-night unl?

hey /jp/ newfag here
is there any characters thats looked down upon?
Or characters that are tasteless and badmanner to play?

>>6579707
No such thing.

>>6579711
The only exception is Okuu if you have a shitty connection that causes people to drop inputs.

If you have a decent connection you're good to go.

>>6579707
Everyone hates Okuu

>>6579711
oh thats cool then.
I just started playing Sakura Izayoi

>>6579675
Can you host?

>>6579707
Iku is a definite. Sakuya is a nightmare too if the player really knows what their doing. Okuu also since American play hasn't evolved like Japan's to know how to exploit her weaknesses. Just in case that changes your character decision, don't worry about that. Just find a character you like to play and just use them. To hell with the people who aren't willing to find ways to win and instead complain endlessly.

>>6579770
Well I want to play Sakuya, I dont mind picking someone else if /jp/ is going to complain, you guys were why i wanted to try the game

>>6579770
Isn't Iku and Okuu at top of the top tier according to the japanese charts?

>>6579792

Aren't. It's "Aren't". You fucking mongoloid.

>>6579792
S: Iku, Remilia, Sakuya, Yuyuko
A: Patchouli, Reisen, Yukari
B: Tenshi, Marisa, Suika, Youmu, Okuu
B-: Reimu, China
C: Suwako, Komachi, Aya, Sanae
D: Cirno, Alice

This only applies at the top levels. Nothing we should be worried about.

>>6579770
>he thinks people still have trouble with utsuho

>>6579801
You don't even play this game go away

>>6579802
Link to said charts?

>>6579820
http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/wiki/Diagram

>>6579811
Now that you mention it, I haven't heard any Okuu complaining for weeks. I just included it since so many people months ago use to talk about Utsuho being unfair, stupid strong, and blah blah. But hey, good stuff to /jp/ for getting past Okuu.

Anyone up for a few games?

>>6579770
>Iku is a definite.

Feels bad, man

>>6579890
I still bitch about Okuu. I just haven't played any Okuu players in the past few weeks.

>>6579770
That's strange, I usually have the least trouble with Iku against the computer. Hell, I even double-perfected her twice on Lunatic once.

Maybe one of these days my internet will decide to stop being shitty for long enough for me to get some games with actual people...

>>6580563

She is really good. Lunatic is certainly no indication of difficulty, I have more trouble with Cirno than with most other Lunatic characters. Her 2a is just silly, being anywhere below her pretty much means you're screwed. She also has damn good projectiles.

Also, anyone have tips on landing spellcard combos? I've gotten past that barrier with Sakuya somewhat by using 3A more since it combos into 66B, but it seems as if all of my my spellcard combos with Reimu/Sanae rely on 66B/C respectively and everyone always sees it coming.

>>6579770
>Okuu also since American play hasn't evolved like Japan's to know how to exploit her weaknesses.

Bullshit. The only "evidence" you can cite for this are those outdated tier lists that still take into account pre-1.10 data, when Utsuho actually *did* suck

Watch Nicovideo Soku matches. When Utsuho is being played, that player will win 8 times out of 10

>>6580598
And the only "evidence" you can cite are shitty nico videos of low-skill players. Japan's best players play on a private bbs and hide their stats from tenco.

84.249.245.151:10800 Finland hosting

Random flavour

>>6580598
If you follow the link to the tierlist he's referring to, you can see it's not a mere win/loss rate report. Your pre-1.10 argument thus is invalid. But again (and again and again), this is a japanese tier-list, and not only japs tend to have more experience than EU/US players, but they also have an extremely different playstyle, so it really isn't applicable here.
IMO western play isn't developed enough to be taking any tierlist seriously, simply because there's like half of the cast no good player mains.

But sure, one can say that Okuu has it easy when both players ain't playing the game for too long/seriously, but one should not quote tierlists for that.

>>6582115
>some random anon thinks he can speak for the 'western community'
sure is no ip in here

>>6582216
>>6582115
>IMO

I just stopped playing technical characters against Okuu and started counter picking. It's mostly the frustration of dropping actual combos due to netplay just to have her counter for 2500 damage from mashing A.

>>6581463
Good games, but I believe that last match was the sign that I've played enough for today.

>>6581463

ggs, you really should take suwako to the practice mode for a while, hopping in the corner using j.6C j.8A is not really a valid strategy for anything but making you opponent extremely bored, the opponent has no obligation to come to the corner to get you so it just becomes a silly bulletspamming fight and those are not too enjoyable

>>6582461
Yeah, you're absolutely right, but I really dislike Suwako and her movement.
Other than that, I'm still jumping around way too much, getting hit by some bullets because of it and don't really know when to attack and when to block in midair, as you probably saw that I took a melee hit almost every time when we both were coming at each other.

>not hating on Okuu

>>6583001
Anyone got the image of her cape uppercut, with the arm edited to curve around in every direction?

85.26.37.223:10800
EU Host
COR tier.

Where have all the east coast-ers gone?

>>6583610
GGs aki, 4-25, it hurts.
I'll remember the Alice-Remilia double ko.
Thanks god, I got no Suwako today.

(And seriously, I need an anti-ghosting keyboard, I wont play better with it, but it will limit my shitload of misinputs)

>>6584470
GGs, I mainly used characters that I have practiced a lot with, and if you had done the same I'm sure the results would have been much closer.

>>6583276
This?

>>6585132
Excellent! Thank you, sir.

Hosts? Players?

bump for NA

174.0.51.137:10800
Hostan Canadia

Hosting

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
I play this game out of foppery and whim.

99.120.34.238:10800
West Coast

NeverUsesCards tier (Not that you don't have to)
Hoping that implies NotAmazing tier

>>6585781
Hmm, looks like our connection troubles will not allow us to continue our games. Good games MSY! You're definately no slouch off of Tenshi and Utsuho. Your Suika has some really weird spacing that takes getting used to, to the point of wiffing everything for the first couple of matches. I also have a much easier time against Iku than I do Okuu.

>>6585781
Good Games, most of the time I was quite scared to do any blockstrings, since mine have a ton of openings, and I would probably just get DP'ed out of them. Really weird, seeing how well I was doing with Suika, despite never really using her online.

Hopefully you didn't mind the frozen fish deck, I wanted to test out some Utsuho 623 grab gimmicks, but they didn't really work out too well. Just so happened that I put that card in the frozen fish deck and forgot to change it before playing today.

>>6586144
It's them flight angles of yours. Around and around in circles screwing up my block she went and I'd always be a step behind until I could get a better read on it. I don't mind fishdecks, been hit with them in clever ways when playing against that EU Youmu.

Experimenting with some new decks.

>>6545483

>>6586417
ggs, arctangent

Dude. What is with you and lagging? Aren't you WC too?

>>6586501
I don't even know. I live in California, but apparently my connection hates me.

>>6586504
No offense, but it's frustrating as fuck to play you with Aya or Reimu through lag like that causing me to drop every basic combo while you mash spellcards for a third of my life.

>>6586507
I guess I'll just sit next to the wireless from now on when I soku.

My wired connection and soku hate the shit out each other so that's the best I can do.

>>6583866
Either busy with life or (from my personal experience) in #hisouten

bump

65.31.150.147:10800
US Midwest

Gotta jet. And fuck Typhoon. Jesus fucking christ.

>>6588725
Good games Tangent. I've got to watch out for those j214Cs from you next time. I don't think I've seen any Aya except yours use it effectively.

84.249.245.151:10800 Finland hosting

Little Pandemonium on the run

>>6588738
It would have been nice if they actually came out at the height I wanted once in a while so they'd punish all your anti-air.

bump for NA

>>6588738
You must not have played when Aya was god tier. Fuckers just spammed that shit all day.

>>6588926

ggs Idler, that was my cue, I had to press three times for that last 3 steps to activate, I really wonder what was happening today, inputs were dropping left and right and for half the matches I could barely graze bullets much less input specials coherently, did it plague you too?

>>6589659
GGs Sitha.
The connection worked decently for me, but considering the fact we're both in Finland it should've been better. Most of my inputs got through pretty well but there were some lagspikes every now and then.

>>6589706

Guh, I guess my heap of a computer is showing ill side-effects again then. Like you remember those few matches where I was spamming 66B like mad? That was me trying to do a 623B, I don't normally have that much problems with it -_-' well really a lot of the 66B and 66C were failed 623, I wouldn't normally use them that much due to them not being safe at all.

>>6589733
I was kind of wondering what that was all about. Well, most of your stuff still seemed to work against me, but I'll blame that on my sleepiness. I was just planning to go to sleep when I noticed your post.

>>6589585
A pity that they've nerfed her every goddamn update even when she's shit tier. Although it is funny to look at the SWR wiki and laugh at the combos that do 1,000 less damage in 1.10 and all the now wrong information about move properties. "Special cancellable? Ha. You wish!" "Okizeme? In Tempest after a Deadline day maybe." "You want a special with an attack? Tough shit. Have a slow triple jump that costs meter." ;_;

>>6589871
Funny that Aya is still good after all that.

>>6589585
They spammed the B version, sure but I don't remember any of them using the C version that much.

>>6589915
I don't think the C version was any different from the B version back then.

>>6589917
No, they were always different. Even back in the old SWR demo.

>>6589911
Except by every measurable standard, sure.

Trying out alt decks again probably.

>>6545483

>>6589546

Kind of tired and a little drunk on cough syrup.

>>6545483

>>6591766
Can't seem to join. Spectating disabled?

75.35.0.133:10800 WC.

Might lag if you're from WC. Will lag if you're not.

Late night bump

99.120.34.238:10800

US West
Okay-ish Tier

>>6592371
Still hosting?

>>6592394
Sorry, wasn't checking the thread. I've been hosting the whole time. Can you get in?

>>6592420
Can't seem to join this.

>>6592422
Oh sorry, forgot I can't host at this house.

>>6592424
Haha. I can host but it's already pretty late.

98.245.170.238:10801

US west/central, continental divide.

>>6555283
rehosting

>>6593015
Thanks for the games, Turtle. I've never played against someone so confident, calm, and collected. I didn't even know what to do with you~

>>6593015
ggs

>>6593208
GGs and thanks for your patience with me.

I still need to learn a lot of stuff, most important pressure and escaping from the corners I guess.

>>6593208
GGs Hexagon.
You'll need to learn/practise border escapes if you want to have a chance against sakuya/tenshi/suwako/reisen/remi/etcetera. Easier way to do it is to correctly block a move (meaning you'll have to block a high move high, a wrong block won't do, even if it somehow results in a block), and then input 1DD during the blockstun. As long as you're doing it during a pretty long bullet move (like tenshi's rock drills), you're good to go and escape with your spirit meter refilled, at least if your opponent doesn't change their blockstring.
I can't help you much regarding Yukari, because I don't know lots about her. I would simply recommend not to use 2A too much, especially as a poke, because it won't combo into much, if anything, and it's not noticeably faster than c.5A. Maybe it's even slower.

l4hosts

age

Bump

what is touhou?

>>6555283
rehosting

>>6555283
rehosting

>>6556806

>>6598734
Not really. They can give some good speed and mobility to the slower characters, especially Iku, but don't augment speed enough to make a major difference.

65.31.150.147:10800
US Midwest

88.66.112.6:10800 EU
Haven't played in forever tier

Meh. At least I took one this time. Is there some kind of secret to super jumping/chicken blocking/teching in netplay? Techs only seem to come out about half the time and 317 appears to be the input for "Instantly take 2500 damage."

>>6599352
>317
417 I meant.

Any NA hosts up?

>>6599352
Good games again. This game must really hate you. Typhoon always came up at the worst possible moment for you. Also, why don't you play a ground game instead of flying around all the time? It would probably work out better for you than what you're doing now.

98.245.170.238:10801

US west/central, continental divide, IRC won't play with me tier.

>>6599352
>super jumping
Just hold down D and press 7/8/9. There's no need to make things harder for yourself by doing it the normal way.

>chicken blocking
There are a few frames of jumping animation before you leave the ground where you're completely vulnerable. You probably got caught during that or got hit with an air-unblockable attack.

>teching
There are some attacks that cause an untechable knockdown even without hitting limit so that may have been why you couldn't tech. You shouldn't be teching all the time anyway. If you get predictable your opponent can easily punish you for it.

New thread at >>6599706

>>6599399
Well, that's embarrassing. There's a reason the IRC doesn't want to play with me. Thanks for the games, Magical Neko Len-Len.

>>6599727
Sorry, I had something urgent to spit at, so I had to leave real fast-like. Trying to learn Reimu and Marisa, but Marisa is not my style at all, heh.

psst you are better than 75% of irc no joke

>>6599534
>Super jumping
That's a recipe for disaster with any kind of lage when you're trying to use it to escape pressure since you have about a quarter second to react before flight kicks in with its vulnerable frames plus slow movement.

>Chicken blocking
This was far more pervasive than just a single issues or two. Especially with projectiles on the field. j.664 was a free ticket to getting hit by anything and I was even getting tagged by projectiles after I was already in the air. I'd think it's my keyboard ghosting, but I've had no problems trying it with offline.

>Teching
Ground teching, not air. Even outside of Diamond Dust, it was a crapshoot whether or not the tech would register.

173.58.106.140 port: 64738

Just started a few days ago, but I got an itch to be raped by some pros.