/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I stopped reading this when they torn their hymens with tampons, fucking sluts. She deserves whatever happens to her.

I need to pick up KNJ again.

Wait what, how old are they already?

>>6498802

They're like eight or nine at the beginning of the series. Dunno how old they are now.

Mimi has a bad mother, this is kind of a theme in the series.

>>6498774
It really hurts to have your hymen torn ~de geso.

Aside from two or three chapters I actually think a lot of normals wouldn't object very strongly to KnJ.

>>6498806
6 years old. They found a drug that reversed their age and made them stay lolis for longer. It's really jumped the shark for it's audience.

>>6498813
Take out the fanservice and you have a piece on child psychology focusing on sexuality.

Where can I read KnJ? I stopped watching anime/manga years ago (limited myself to VNs), so I don't know where to start.

Any advice is appreciated.

>>6498821
This.

>>6498827
Google.

>>6498802
They're in 6th grade now, so that's between 11 and 12.
>>6498813
I think you've forgotten just how easily touched normals are. It's not just the 5 chapters that have gratuitous masturbation that will cause them to hate it. Even forgetting the fanservice, there's the fact that it shows children acting in a way that they have been conditioned to believe children do not, cannot act in; and if there's anything that causes normals to get angry, it's casting doubt on their delusions.

>>6498827
Funny you should ask, I recently downloaded it.

http://www.bakabt.com/150515-kodomo-no-jikan-saha.html

That's most of it anyway.

>>6498837
When I say a lot of normals, I don't mean a majority of them. But I think do think a good deal of young people who weren't brought up religious wouldn't bring out the pitchforks. The fact that lolicons are portrayed negatively is a plus in this regard.

>>6498837
>They're in 6th grade now, so that's between 11 and 12.

That's certainly a bit more acceptable.

>>6498821

That would be because the author is a woman.

>>6498893
Girls don't start masturbating at eighteen, you know. Where I live, by 12/13, most of them have already lost their virginity.

>>6498910
Jesus, where the fuck do you live?

>>6498910

12 is a bit early for me to believe since many girls won't even have gone through puberty at that point.

>>6498915
probably either japan or america

>>6498918
Not really. My cousin lost her virginity that age. And there were some official studies in popular magazines showing the average here was 13/14 in most states However, I know it's slightly younger than that, in some poorer states.

>>6498910
Huehuehue should tell you something.

>>6498918
Girls average their first period at 13.

>>6498932
Well, somebody's wrong. This is supposedly 'merikan data.

Armgirl. The originator of the SICP snake.

>>6498948
I thought it was obvious that huehuehue meant Brazil. I guess I was wrong.

>>6498948
That figure seems so wrong. Females tend to have more sexual experience than males at younger ages.

>>6498992
Yeah, I got that part, but I'm dumb. When I think states, I think America. I associate every other country with provinces.

>>6498960

>>6498915
If you think it is any different in any country in the world, it seems you are living in another dimension.

>>6498918
Hate to break it to you, but
>Girls now begin puberty aged 9
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article7148975.ece
Paedophilia is ruined forever thanks to the feminist inspired abundance of contraceptive pills.

>>6499224
At last, my "Really 700 years old" fantasies are starting to take shape!

>>6498997
at first you have a few slutty girls having sex with a bunch of boys. then when they grow up a little you have all the alpha boys fucking all the older sluttier girls.

>>6498761
What an awful person this mother is.

>>6499251
I bet you don't think it's a girls fault when she gets raped either, do you?

>>6499224
>>GROWING numbers of girls are reaching puberty before the age of 10, raising fears of increased sexual activity among a new generation of children.

Why so normal?

>>6499296
NEWSFLASH
YOUNG GIRLS HAS BEEN GETTING FUCKED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME

If anything it's this generation that's retarded for viewing sex with children as taboo

>>6499336
It pains me that I completely agree with the namefag.
Even Virgin Mary is stated to be, like, 12 when she conceived.

>>6499289
Don't even start this discussion all over again.

>>6498774
Which chapter was that again?

>>6499353

>>6499363
I love how she draws the closeups to Rin's face, especially in that second panel from the left. The latest chapter had a nice closeup of pissed off Rin as well.

>>6499374
This one?

>>6499363
Accurate depiction of a whore taking pics of her naked body. In real life, she would proceed to post them on the internet.

>>6499379
Yes~

Her eyes are so pretty.
And she tickles my submissive side when she gets all possessive and jealous like that.

I'm not going to DL this because I don't want to get arrested.

>>6499403
You are more likely to be arrested from just browsing /jp/ than reading artistic works about fictional girls.

>>6498761
Mimi is so cute now that she's a little older. But not cute in the "I wish I could tap that" sense, but in the "I wish I could be a good parent for her now that she is going through this hard period in her life" sense.

>>6499419
She's quite the looker without the glasses, though.

>>6499420
I think she looks pretty cute either way.

My intelligent daughter who will go to university when she is older and slut herself out, like nerd girls do. ;_;

>>6499227
It's the opposite. Instead of adults who look like children, you have children who look like adults.

>>6499434
I'm not okay with this.

>>6499419
It's because her breasts look smaller now that she's taller.

>>6499403
It almost got commercially released in America. No-one is going to jail just for having KnJ on their hard disk. >>6499434
>>6499451
Soon flat chested children will be forgotten and all loli manga/doujins will have as much breast as your typical volume of Comic LO. Doujins/manga with even just little girls with small buds will become as rare as girls with perfectly flat chests are in doujin/manga today.

>>6499474
>No-one is going to jail just for having KnJ on their hard disk.

>>6499386
And in America she would be reported to the authorities, arrested, jailed for years, sent for re-education and branded a dangerous sex offender who must constantly watch for vigilantes trying to lynch them and unable to find any employment.

>>6499483
Almost, except all of that would happen to the teenage boy who's phone she sent the pictures to.

>>6499485
No, it would happen to both of them.

So, no one knows what chapter it was when she tore her hymen?
I honestly don't recall this happening.

>>6499489
Depends; the girl can get out of it by saying she was a victim and the guy can get out of it by having rich parents.

>>6499485
She'd be hit with creation and distribution of child pornography.

He'd be hit with viewing child pornography.

Both would be jailed and branded in order to protect them.

Fucking recaptcha. Failed 5 times trying to post this.

>>6499489
>13-yo charged as sex offender and victim
Yep.

>>6499491
But you can get out of anything if you're rich.

Except tax evasion, but there are so many loopholes that you shouldn't ever have to evade taxes.

>>6499474
Flat chested children aren't going to disappear. They are flat-chested adults, after all, and all of them hit puberty. Some of them don't have hips either. The same will apply to children, only they are cuter.

>>6499493
>>6499494
AMERICA, THE LAND OF THE FREE.

Still better than Australia.

Who cares about laws designed to protect minors? We only have to pass moral judgments, not actually protect them.

>>6499490
Nevermind, I found it..
Only Usa uses a tampon.

>Child is molested
>Its the child's fault, not the molester

I don't which makes me angrier. Somebody molesting my Usa or Usa's mom being a dick.

Teenage girls being charged with creation of child pornography is rare; 5 jewgolds says it only happens as revenge from a pissed off boyfriend. Girl cheats, boy reports the lewd pictures she took of herself.

Guys being charged, on the other hand, is omnipresent. If you download underage pictures you go to prison. If someone sends you underage pictures you go to prison. Back when people still used film if a photo developer saw your family vacation pictures and noticed your 10 year old son swimming without a shirt on you would have the police at door.

>>6499501
>>6499474
Only in the west. There will still be skinny flat asians.

>>6499502
UK < Australia < USA < Canada.

But even Canada is slipping off into the nanny side.

>>6499509
They only did that if she was a girl.

>>6499494
It happens.
>>6499507
Shouldn't have gone out without her Hijab. Slut.

>>6499507
She is an unvirgin slut, as proved by >>6499503, she wants the cock.

>>6499517
I wouldn't say UK is worse than Australia. In the UK you don't get arrested for images of a obvious 25 year old with small breasts.

>>6499519
since when do women have do wear hijabs inside houses?

>>6499517
You anglo-saxon countries (and Sweden and Philippines) all suck. Just because some suck less than the others, don't let it get over your head.

Big Brother UK, Simpson's porn Australia, obscenity laws US, and Loli Hater Little Brother Canada.

>>6499525
Well in Australia you don't get arrested for defending your family from violent immigrants assaulting them.

>>6499511
I live in the US, and I saw a really small white girl who had neither breasts nor hips. She looked nervous all the time. I knew she was 21+ because around here if your name tag says 3124 on it, it means you are over twenty-one.

>>6499519
>exposed arms
>exposed ankle
>exposed neck
>exposed armpit
>exposed hair
>no Hijab
What a slut

>>6499529
U.S. isn't Anglo-Saxon. At all.

>>6499517
In my view, it is more like:
Australia < UK < Canada < USA

Remember someone got jailed for Simpsons porn in AU. Can't get much worse than that. USA still has the Supreme Court which could overturn the anti-loli laws.

>>6499527
looks like you didn't get the memo, what a slut.

>>6499532
Where do you live that everyone has to walk around with name tags?

Also I knew a non-white girl like that. I knew she was an adult because I saw her for years and she never grew up any since she was in middle school.

In ______, you get arrested for _______

England - defending yourself
Australia - viewing your underendowed wife in the nude
USA - offending the sensibilities of old people

>>6499538
Well, you used to be. You were founded by them, with their morals and mindset. So I will call you guys one.

Fuck your French influence during the civil war and the larger number of German-Americans than English-Americans.

>>6499544
Supreme court rulings come only after lower court rulings have been upheld. You'd have been sodomized at least a hundred times before they even hear your case, and that's only if they agree to hear it - in most cases they don't.

>>6499549
I live in a government-run rehabilitation center. It's how I get my free food, shelter and internet access.

>>6499557
There goes my fantasy of loli being safe.

>>6499559
Rehabilitation for what?

>>6499559
Rehabilitation for what? Drugs?

>>6499557
The best thing about being a fat otaku is that dicks will never reach your asshole.

>>6499571
>>6499569
No, for me it is social anxiety.

>>6499574
I could swear you were going to say pedophilia.

>>6499574
So you're in there with druggies?

I seriously don't understand that. Why do they put people with our kind of problems in the same room with the kind of people we need to stay the farthest away from?

Psychologists and social workers are imbeciles. If I could get my welfare check without having to deal with them I would.

>>6499574
I didn't know they had government rehab places for that. Unless you're at a state hospital and don't want to phrase it that way.

The United States has vast swaths of territory that are now effectively devoid of jobs, so people fall into welfare and the "rehabilitation" that comes with it.

>>6499592
And this is because corporations lay off massive numbers of employees so the upper management won't have to cut back while choking all new businesses out of the market.

>>6499601
>>6499592
These people should turn to the internet for jobs.

>>6499589
I believe things work a bit differently in the US than how they are in most of Europe.

While US politics might have one think that the country has a Victorian level of austerity when it comes to social welfare programs, they are actually very abundant. You can even get state-covered health care.

It's just that in the US this typically requires that one be watched by a social worker, under the guise of restoring their fitness to work and earn a living for themselves. The problem with this is that most unemployed people in the US aren't due to lack of fitness, but due to a disparity between wages and the cost of living. Most of these people very well could have "a job" but living off the state would provide them with a much better standard of living so that is what they go for.

And it's getting worse; with labor competition from Mexico and China the current attitude is that workers should be paid less.

>>6499603
The internet doesn't provide jobs, it merely lists them.

When the total volume of the job market decreases while population increases, there is no fancy trick that is going to get you out of this.

>>6499611
And this is why protectionism is absolutely necessarily.

>>6499587
It's not that bad, most of the people with drug problems wont bother you if you leave them alone. Besides, this place is mostly focused on injury rehabilitation, so we usually get people in wheelchairs. I think they just treat people like me on the side.

>>6499592
Welfare should not exist. Like that family of fatsos who are too damn fat to work, and they are demanding the government for more money so they can eat more.

It is all so damn stupid.

>>6499613
>The internet doesn't provide jobs
Yes it does. Make your own online business/scam to take money away from people. These are days where you can get rich from a shitty youtube video blog.

Make up a fig review show and have people buy your otaku shit and send it to you so you can review it for other's sakes.

>>6499635
http://www.diet-blog.com/09/family_too_fat_to_work_wants_more_money.php

>>6499644
Great idea, we can have the millions of displaced Americans get themselves back on their feet by puling nigeria scams.

>>6499635
>welfare should not exist because it can be abused if you don't have rules preventing abuse
Really, now? I guess we should kill all humans because they might murder others if we stop preventing them from doing so.

>>6499635
The only way you're going to see an end to the social underclass is through increasing the common prosperity.

When wages keep going down the only thing that is going to happen is that the poor will become more numerous and more burdensome.

>>6499657
Not the same guy, but your sarcasm is a bit on the stupid side. Most of the people who are on welfare do it because they are beyond lazy or claim a dissability. Such people should not be protected.

>>6499670
Most people getting a check from the government are the unemployable. This falls into several groups; the injured who have been stripped of their abilities, the old who's abilities have faded away with age, and those who never had any abilities in the first place.

The last group includes people like illegal immigrants, those without enough education or intelligence to qualify for minimum wage, and those who are too slow in the mind and/or body to hold a compensated position.

>>6499670
No, you're the stupid one.

>Such people should not be protected.
So cut them off. Bam, problem solved.

>>6499670
I hope and doubt that "most" of them are. Sure a lot of /jp/ers are saying they "abuse" it but /jp/ is not the majority.

/jp/ - political arguments

It's fun to watch Americans bitch about their social services. I hold no stake in their concerns but I like to watch and laugh because these people brought the problem upon themselves with their slash-and-burn capitalism of lowering prices at any cost.

>>6499696
For /jp/, a lot of them probably are actually pretty much unemployable, too. Just because you can sit in front of a computer and type doesn't mean you can find and hold a job.

For example, even people with severe schizophrenia might be able to make coherent posts, but they sure as hell aren't going to be able to function professionally.

>>6499709
Says you!

I know a surgeon with schizophrenia that needs medication to stay stable, and he is by far the most knowledgeable one in the hospital.

>>6499709
The problem is that there aren't a lot of jobs left that aren't picky about whom they choose to hire.

At any point up until the late 20th century these people would have just filed off into blue collar jobs and been paid a living wage for them. Labor was pretty much replaced in a heartbeat with service work; waiting tables, running cash registers, and the like.

The problem with service work is that it disappears fast. When the middle class tightens its belt, the lower class gets laid off. Then the lower class falls into welfare and the problem worsens.

>>6499720
I think you missed the "severe" part. If he can be completely stable with just some medication, it's not severe, is it?

>>6499727
There is a difference between how severe a condition is and how treatable.

A condition can have no remedy yet be mild in symptoms, it can also be easily treated yet be severe in symptoms if left alone.

>>6499703
I personally didn't bring the problems of my government down on this country. I'm only a hapless citizen.

>>6499743
Certainly.

However, we're speaking of multiple cases of the same condition, not different conditions entirely, so I'm not sure that point is relevant.

>>6499644
Shiiit nigger, that's actually a decent idea. I might have to do that someday.

I can film myself and use it as exposure therapy.

I agree.

>>6499703
>America
>Capitalism
Hahaha, no.

Oh, and "Lowering prices at any cost". What a fucking moron, who the fuck is going to buy your products if everyone is dead?!

The good old guberment is the one that encourages corrupt practices... After all, they're the trend setters.

>>6499747
Nobody "personally" did; it's a collective problem caused by collective negligence.

A functioning economy is one where people work and get paid a fair wage - which they spend on the product of other people's work. But just like all the other failed empires of the past, Americans decided they wanted their products to come from people who were paid next to nothing.

The result of this is that the machine loses one component at a time; first the factory workers are laid off, then the service workers are laid off because the factory workers can no longer afford the services.

Unemployment rises, while a perfectly capable workforce sits idle.

>>6500046
Collective problem caused by collective negligence?

You're a retard, Anon-san. Heroes have fought and died against this government with no success. For those who now know better, it is clearly impossible to do anything to solve the problem... We only work, in our own ways, to bring closer the day that others must take notice.

>>6500058
The government didn't cause these layoffs, amerifats shopping at wal-mart did.

>>6500046
You have no fucking clue how an economy works, or even the concept of Human Action.

Who the fuck are you to say what is a "Fair" wage for a given task?

I for one certainly believe that "Real humans", such as those in the elite management positions, do not need to toil among the... Shall we say, "Savages" who only rarely have a gem among them that usually never shines?

>>6500068
. . .

Has anyone ever told you that you have a clear lack of critical thinking skills?

>>6500068
Yeah because you pay more for the same product in a different store just to "support the economy" right?

You have butter on your head.

>>6500078
Cool, have fun working for 75 cents an hour to pay off your six figure student loan.

>thread

>>6500078
Calling "Real humans" to the faggots who wrecked the American economy. Cool story, bro!

Americans are the ones who wrecked the economy.

You mean sending all your jobs off overseas increases unemployment and puts people on welfare? Well I can't imagine who could have possibly predicted such an outcome.

>>6500078
That's fantastic.

I, on the other hand, have come to the conclusion, through careful thought and collection of evidence, that the people at the top should be convicted of genocide. If you have resources to spare while your fellow man has no choice but to starve, you are responsible for his death.

>>6500084
>pay off your student loan
Gahahaha, what a stupid idea.

>>6500098

>>6500084
Good thing I'm not a fucking moron who decided to blow hundreds of thousands of dollars on a shitty college education.

You might as well have just sat on /jp/ for four years for all the real work experience you'll get at a college.
>>6500093
You really have no clue how an economy works, my child. Maybe your brainwashing has conditioned you to reject out of hand any "Evil Ron Paul" sayings...

But the Federal Reserve, a product of our filthy degenerate "Democracy" is to blame for our financial woes.
>>6500097
What the flying fuck does that have to do with market processes at all?

>>6500102
U MAD?

>>6500105
That wasn't very nice.

If you read the instructions in a tampon pack they say you don't lose your virginity if you wear a tampon... I always assumed that meant it wouldn't tear your hymen.

>>6500098
Hahaha.

>>6500104
A Capitalism drone calling me a child. You made me laugh.

>>6500078
>>6500082
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>>6500101
>>6500104

ameriboos please take it to /new/

>>6500112
>The guy who just can't read the mood!

>>6500104
trolls trolling a troll who has been forced to troll because of trolling

I CAN SEE FOREVER

>>6500104
Bwahaha. You're just as bad.

There is one source of all woes: the uneven distribution of power. Only through eliminating all seats of power will humans become free of suffering.

Authority. Property. These things must go.

>>6500112

A tampon CAN break the hymen, it varies between women. The little secret is that most of them are already gone by then.

>>6500128
Mind actually explaining beyond a simple declaration, like I did?

Being an anarcho-capitalist isn't easy, unlike an Anarchist fuckwit. You clowns just spew emotional garbage wherever you go.

Can't wait for you to whine about how that isn't "Real" anarchism or some other shit.

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Anarchy. If you seriously have no clue whatsoever how the world around you should be organized.

>>6500128
We're so similar, yet so very different....
Mankind will never be free of suffering.

But I can be, if I want to.

>>6500152
I assume you mean ending yourself?

Good, one less parasite in the world.

>outsource all the jobs
>bicker about unemployment

>>6500166
Useless jobs are not jobs. Such is the problem of parasites believing any job is a good job, and thus further equating that all jobs are equal.

>>6500156
No, not at all.
Although parasite is probably pretty fair.

>>6500143
>Being an anarcho-capitalist isn't easy
Of course it isn't. You have to deal with having an oxymoron for a label, hypocrisy in your philosophy, and private corporations building private armies and wiping you out in your reality.

A "free market" collapses the second one man has more money than another man. From then on, he has more power and can thereby shape the world according to his wishes.

The only way to protect against this is to resort to clearly anarchist solutions, such as killing the bastards if they try to horde your resources.

>>6500171
>useless jobs
>every single person in this thread has at least one product within arm's reach produced by one of these jobs.

>>6500173
How is it an oxymoron? You make simple childish declarations like these with no backing.

How does it "Collapse", moron? Some are simply luckier than others. What's wrong with that?
>>6500175
That doesn't change the fact the jobs themselves are useless for real human beings, son. Of course, the amount being shipped around is artificially inflated by outright punishing companies for staying in America. Of course, this is the problem of the State... As per usual.

>>6500152
You bring up an irrelevant fact. The point of an ideal is not to achieve it, but to find the best way to move toward it.

In reality, I focus on improving the long term ratio between the "positive" and the "negative." I think this is the best way to address the inherent problems of both positive and negative utilitarianism.

>>6500185
Your problem is you care too much about other people.
They don't care about you.
Let the System exist, and we can live like kings off its leavings, holding to all the anarchist tenets you hold close to your heart.
Don't destroy the system, let it run its course.

Let it be the stepping stone to the next phase, not a whole restructuring of the staircase.

>>6500185
>How does it "Collapse", moron?
I think the person you quoted gave a poor wording, I will provide a better one.

Free markets lead to unfree markets. This is because an unfree market is one where power is more important than value, and a free market leads to a concentration of power. You can have a free market today, but it will only last until the fastest runner wins the race and turns it into an unfree market.

>That doesn't change the fact the jobs themselves are useless for real human beings, son.
They're useless when you either stop using the products or find a way to make them that doesn't involve human labor. Either is possible, but both are unlikely due to people being all too comfortable with the status quo.

>Of course, the amount being shipped around is artificially inflated by outright punishing companies for staying in America. Of course, this is the problem of the State... As per usual.
What are you even saying here, that the trade gap is inaccurate? Cite some official numbers before you drag out your own paranoia.

>>6500185
>How is it an oxymoron?
Free market capitalism is essentially the belief that those with capital should have authority over those without. Anarchism is the belief that no one should have authority over others, period. The two cannot coexist.

>What's wrong with that?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism

Etc.

>>6500203
>Free markets lead to unfree markets. This is because an unfree market is one where power is more important than value, and a free market leads to a concentration of power. You can have a free market today, but it will only last until the fastest runner wins the race and turns it into an unfree market.

How does this "fastest runner" "Win the race" and turn it into an unfree market? Through taxation?

I'm operating under the assumption that people recognize the fallacy of such an outdated practice.

>They're useless when you either stop using the products or find a way to make them that doesn't involve human labor. Either is possible, but both are unlikely due to people being all too comfortable with the status quo.

If people were comfortable with the status quo, why have we been moving leaps and bounds in technology?

>What are you even saying here, that the trade gap is inaccurate? Cite some official numbers before you drag out your own paranoia.

I was simply referring to the "Evil Tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas". You know the one, right?

>>6500215
Herbert Hoover was the first president to exacerbate depressions even further with beloved "Stimulus", much like Bush. We didn't get out of the depression until the guberment finally took off the ridiculous restraints on business in the 40s. Again, not the fault of the free market.

I see your wiki links and raise you my own, by the way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_business_cycle_theory

>>6500226
Whoops, forgot the other one-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho_capitalism

I'm headed off to eat for now. Cheerio!

Written by a woman. A really perverted woman.

>>6500200
Honestly, I couldn't agree more with that method, but for an additional reason.

By living off of what this system drops, we are also hastening its demise. It works quite well whether you are primarily egotistical or idealistic, doesn't it? And, in the end, I don't think the division between the two really has anything to do with core philosophy--after all, what is best for all in the long term is also best for every individual in the long term. Only in the short term do interests clash, and one who functions according to short term benefits is termed "shortsighted."

I think this conversation might grow a little confusing at this point... perhaps. Too many people arguing from different standpoints.

You guys are really not taking it easy. This thread actually is making me depressed. Moreso than usual.

>>6500240
Read by /jp/-ers. Really perverted /jp/-ers. If it's not this, it's other pervy works.

>>6500226
>How does this "fastest runner" "Win the race" and turn it into an unfree market? Through taxation?
Effectively, yes.

Government is simply the one who tells you what to do and says you owe them something because they exist. When the old baron gets run out of town, odds are the one who got rid of him is your new baron and will behave no differently.

Free marketers and anti-corporatists both share the same fantasy; a world in which your fate is decided not by the whims of aristocrats but by personal merit and hard efforts.

Both fantasies are equally unfeasible in the real world because both of them only think the seizing and abuse of power can only come from one place. Stalinfags want to get rid of the bankers and let the government be their masters, Reaganfags want to get rid of the government and let the bankers be their masters.

Anarchy is ideal.
Unfortunately, ideal doesn't mean easy.

I found a loophole to this whole either/or problem...
TAKE IT EASY.
It's actually less effort to opt out of the system than to tear it down.
TH

>>6500226
First off, you should kill yourself.

The Great Depression was marked by an incredible disparity between the income of the top 5% and the rest of the population. Explain how "stimulus" created this situation, if you would.

Also, you claim the free market did not cause it. However, as can be seen by actually looking at the facts rather than eating up the agenda YOUR GOVERNMENT has forced down your throat (how ironic!), the initial crash occurred because of the laissez-faire policies adopted immediately before.

The Austrian school couldn't disagree more with reality, by the way. Look at any actual economic data for decisive evidence on this.

/jp/ - Political Economy

Can we start talking about Kokonoe's delicious feet and armpits again

People misunderstand anarchy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_honor#Cultures_of_honour_and_cultures_of_law

In an absence of rule by law, you end up with what would be called a culture of honor.

1: You don't do what you feel like, you do as you are compelled to- little different from a culture of law, in fact likely with even more of the bad parts.

2: People base their behavior on fear. A man with his own personal army is not to be messed with, but the orphans can be abused by anyone who feels like it.

3: Business is not self-regulating, it is unregulated. This means that if you get cheated in trade then you would have no recourse but to use physical force or accept it, which you yourself are exposed to at all times.

4: Reputation would be the only meaningful form of social status. If you have a reputation for accepting bad dealings with a "don't do business with him anymore" attitude then you will have many more of them in the future because people will know you are weak.

5: This situation does not continue indefinitely. It lasts until the man with his own army proclaims himself king, and declares that his son will inherit the kingdom. From that point forward you are living under a culture of law in which you do precisely as your government says.

>>6500264
I've already explained that, in opting out, you are helping to tear it down.

A system only exists for as long as there are people to support it. By stealing away the resources without putting anything back in, you are eating away at the system.

You really can have your cake and eat it, too. You've just overlooked that this is exactly what you're doing!

P.S.: I love you. ;_;

>ITT: bitching about having the world that exists instead of the world that is desired.

If you're sick of people not having jobs then feel free to hire them whenever you like.

If you're sick of having to obey laws you hate then go someplace else with laws you like better.

>>6500317
>in opting out, you are helping to tear it down
True, I'm not arguing that.
But if you tell people to their face that buying shit at wal-mart cheap prices that asian children made is morally wrong and doing things for yourself is right, you are going to get laughed at or disregarded entirely.

First you must bleed the host, then you kill it.
Just like feudalism worked to bring mankind into more forward thinking society, capitalism can do the same. It isn't evil, it's just the right tool at the right time. And the right time is ebbing away.

>>6500311
You accuse others of misunderstanding anarchy while parroting the bogus version spread by the current authorities. Good show, man.

You need to learn that "having many authorities competing for control of the region" is not the same as "having no authorities." If any many has a personal army, it's not anarchism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Spain

There's a little article including examples of anarchy succeeding in practice. It only "failed" when outside forces invaded and murdered everyone, much as any other form of government "fails" in such a situation.

>>6500226
Oh boy, here we go with another amerifat who thinks the great depression was caused by act of government. Allow me to remind you about the other things that occured in the years leading up to the economic downturn:

-The collapse of multiple empires and general global upheaval.
-Worldwide crop failures and shortfalls in key resources.
-The influenza pandemic and WWI devastating the adult workforce.
-Banks issuing loans for stock purchase while companies issued more stock so they could buy shares in other companies.

>>6500366
>if any many
If any man, I meant.

>>6500366
Failing because you couldn't defend yourself is no different than any other failure - you still lose.

Anarchy is worthless because it doesn't provide for national defense. Countries don't invade at randomly, they invade because they see something to gain and they see the opportunity to take it for themselves.

>>6500358
Of course capitalism isn't evil.

But capitalists are.

>>6500383

Did you say something?

This thread has gone full circle back into loli land, and is now about Recettear.

>>6500383
There's no such thing as evil. Capitalism is just institutionalized greed, but it works for developing mankind. No good or bad, just is.

>>6500379
Anarchism certainly is inherently worse than others at defense, since it relies on citizens organizing their own defenses.

However, this isn't a problem if you make sure there aren't any foreign nations.

>>6500409
Yeah? How the fuck do you plan on pulling that off without so much as an army?

>>6500379
>national defense
Look man, if you aren't smart enough to run away from the big guy about to split open your skull with the butt of his rifle, you really shouldn't be alive anyway.
Death is immaterial.

>>6500404
Wrong. As an individual, I am free to judge the value of things myself. The things I value are suppressed or destroyed by capitalists, so they are evil.

>>6500414
Anarchists run away, nationalists kill the invaders.

>>6500413
The same way citizens overthrow their governments. You don't need a military to kill some dudes.

>>6500421
Read some fucking history already, citizens overthrow governments by forming armies amongst themselves.

Otherwise you just end up with the Amerifat system where people flip to the other side of the coin because the previous one screwed them over, then back again the next time they get screwed.

People seem to forget that capitalism is merely the scaffolding around the building of society. If you've been doing it right, capitalism can crash and you will live just fine.

Just because we need the scaffolding now doesn't mean it's part of the structure.

>>6500425
Now you're arguing pointless semantics. "Oh, if the citizens decide to get together and kill someone, they're an army! Right? Right?"

>>6500450
You're a fucking moron.

>>6500430
That's exactly why some people think of capitalism as the devil. They live on the scaffolding, fall when it is shed away, and can't gain their own entry to the building interior.

If your construction plan relies upon countless expendables being shed off with the scaffolding then you had best plan on them resenting their own share of the outcome.

>>6500464
>You're a fucking moron.
Read as: I have no rebuttal.

Care to make a correction?

>>6500471
Read as: U MAD I TROLL U LOLOLOLOLOL

Care to make a correction?


To address your earlier post; it is gullible to believe that you can take up the trappings of the entity you hate without becoming it. You had might as well make a deal with a pack of wolves under which you are promised that you will never be eaten.

>>6500450
Yep, a group of people with martial intent can generally be considered an army, whether others will recognize them or not.

>>6500464
That resentment is the problem. It isn't morally right that the system can chew people up and spit them out at will, but there IS no "right". Death happens either way, there's no point in holding a grudge against the guy who killed you.

Regarding the concept of capitalism as scaffolding;

The important thing to know is that SOME people will be fine, and many will suffer. That's what is happening all around us right now.

If you want to reduce the strife and friction with capitalism as a means of development, then you need to tear down the fences that keep the construction workers from ever seeing the building's interior.

>>6500480
>To address your earlier post; it is gullible to believe that you can take up the trappings of the entity you hate without becoming it.
Not only does this statement fail to support itself logically, it also isn't strictly relevant. You can have a group of armed people working toward a common goal without things like a "chain of command." In fact, it has been shown to be more effective in some aspects.

>>6500484
If you want to declare the citizens an army, then you can say that the army of an anarchist collective is the collective itself. It's semantics.

>>6500494
The point is vengeance; all the problems faced by modern day capitalists were precipitated by suffering felt by those who have grown to resent the system.

That's my own personal message; if you don't like the symptoms over the illness than work to prevent it from spreading. If you think it is irrational for people on the other side of the world to be rioting, then it is because you have drawn a much different lot in life from theirs.

>>6500510
SPOILER: your visionary hero today is going to be your iron-fisted dictator tomorrow. This has happened over and over on a repeating loop throughout all history because people are too fucking stupid to see it coming.

Today you are free and equal, tomorrow you will be slaves and it will be your own fault. This is exactly why you will never realize your dreams to begin with - you're just too stupid.

>>6500520
>your visionary hero
Where did I mention a visionary hero?

I don't have any visionary heroes.

In fact, a key idea behind anarchism is that it doesn't have leaders. Did you miss that part?

If a "visionary anarchist" tries to act like an authority, he's pretty blatantly not an anarchist, so any idiot could see his bullshit and tell him to fuck off.

tl;dr: Anarchism, unlike everything else, is immune to that bullshit.

>>6500498
People keep themselves blinded from the truth because they are comfortable. Granted, the system brought them that comfort, comfort unlike anything ever before. And it's like a drug that we're addicted to, this comfort.
>>6500511
You have a grudge against the system, which puts you in the same position as it. Let go of your hatred, because all it does is cause more problems.
You want to lash out against a massive communal fiction that we've been creating, but it's just empty air.
Accept death as a reality. Accept misery as a reality. know that no matter what, these things will exist. But they don't have to apply to you.

>>6500531
>In fact, a key idea behind anarchism is that it doesn't have leaders.

That's what makes you nothing more than a resource to be exploited; if you don't choose your own leader then someone else will step in and take it for himself.

Keep telling yourself that someday you will be free, just as soon as the rest of the world lets you.

My dream is to live by myself, have electricity, hot water and internet, stay indoors all day, order food, figures, computer parts and other true NEET items to my door, never work for a minute and take it easy for the rest of my life.

>>6500534
You're misunderstanding me - don't use the word "you" when discussing global issues. It's not some person and it's not the one whom you are talking to.

>People keep themselves blinded from the truth because they are comfortable. Granted, the system brought them that comfort, comfort unlike anything ever before. And it's like a drug that we're addicted to, this comfort.
The complacent will be blind, and that will come back to hurt them. It's coming back to hurt a lot of people right now. The problem with blindness is that steering yourself steadily forward becomes an incredible challenge.

>>6500550
You can have that, but only if you know how to outsmart the system.

>>6500550
OH EXPLOITABLE

>>>/new/2974382

>>6500554
I don't know how to outsmart the system, yet.

Fucking system, making me waste my already short life on education, monotonous jobs, societal obligation and bureaucracy.

>>6500564
What the fuck are you doing?

>thread

Who let the Americans out; is it a national holiday today or something?

>>6500564
Follow your link to /new/ and stay there.

>>6500571
I'm still fiddling with the last few pins in the lock, but I might just have this bitch cracked before the decade is up.
The only thing I haven't worked out is how to evade the cops for eternity...

This giant disembodied head sure knows how to take it easy.

>what about a wimmens?
>>>/new/2974429
>Chicks dig a guy who takes it easy and doesn't let nobody be his boss.

oh god what are you normals doing to my dream

>>6500545
I already ignore authority, you know.

I break laws pretty regularly. I intend to keep breaking them even if they start cracking down. No one can do a damn thing about it. I don't go around killing people (even though I might like to do so) because it's a pretty hopeless endeavor alone, but I am trying to get people to come together to help me do so.

If you don't want to obey authority, you don't have to... so, really, I'm already free. In fact, I've achieved >>6500550's dream.

>>6500597
You're just living in an illusion of freedom, until they start cracking down - even though you plan to continue breaking them, what are you going to do when they throw you in prison, very literally stealing your freedom?

>>6500597
>teenager thinks he's a free anarchist because his ass isn't getting raped in prison yet

>>6500621
>what are you going to do when they throw you in prison, very literally stealing your freedom?
This is what I hate the most about modern society. Everyone rants about freedom while on the other hand saying "lock those sickos up and throw away the key", in regards to people who have heard nobody. Like people who might enjoy reading loli manga and fapping to drawings of little girls. Nobody was hurt. Nobody was harmed until their private life was put under the scrutiny of the law, nobody was harmed after that except the charged.

Futile attempt to return the subject to KnJ

>>6500621
If I get caught? Figure out how to stay in solitary for the duration of my sentence. That's what I did in elementary school (effectively) and those memories are some of my fondest.

>>6500623
I'm in my early twenties. Sorry to disappoint.

>>6500636
That's the problem with anarchists; their free-spiritedness tends to run into a wall when they get convicted of vandalism and larceny.

>>6500642
I thought you wanted freedom.

>>6500646
But both those things hurt other people, by affecting their property.

>>6500653
Welcome to the civilized world. Now get your fucking hair cut down to normal size and get a job.

>>6500673
I don't know how that's related to what I said at all. And my hair is short.

>>6500673
>get a job.
Get out of /jp/.
Kodomo no Jikan Hijack. I believe someone asked for discussion on Rin's delicious feet and armpits, and both are can be seen here. Enjoy.

>>6500721
The things I like the most about Rin are her delicious chest and stomach.

>>6500648
If my "punishment" is to be totally isolated, given free food, and made to do absolutely nothing, it's not really that different from what I spend most of my time doing on my own.

>>6500653
>property
Hahahaha. Bullshit. Even so, actual anarchists (as opposed to poseur teens) don't endorse vandalism, because it's not their property, either.

And yeah, prison is ridiculous. "Cruel and unusual punishment" describes it pretty well.

>>6500721
>>6500750
okaywiththis.jpg

>>6500754
Why is that funny? The definition of larceny is taking another's property. If you vandalize someone's building, you are defacing their property.

>>6500750
I like her cute face and cheeky attitude the most. She's got a cute little butt too.

>>6500754
lol no.

You're locked up with ghetto rats and made to do whatever is expected of you. You will probably be made to perform manual labor. Then you'll be sodomized by your roommate. I hope you're not too fond of the internet, because it'll be a couple of years (if you're lucky) before you see it again.

Meanwhile I will be living in my nice suburban home keeping myself clean with the law and behaving like a normal adult.

>>6500781
Speaking of Rin's nipples, I hope Rin's chest doesn't get too big. Right now Kuro is the only flat one left.

I read Kodomo no Jikan for the PLOT.

I haven't been keeping up with this thread around half-way, but I can just smell it is full of trolling.

>>6500801
Rin's chest seems fine just the way it is to me.

>>6500837
hot

Kuroko is the best girl.

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