/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Honey Coming- Prologue 100% translated, Common route atleast 20% with progress being made. Yuma Shichiri's route 5% translated
>Hoshizora no Memoria - 8.6% translated, recieved a C&D, continuing.
Ikusa Megami Zero - New project starting up, C&D, continuing.
Imouto Ijime - 50.1% translated
Katahane- 27963/32287 lines (86.61%) translated, both Shirohane chapters are fully translated
Kara no Shoujo - 100% translated, edited, and hacked, may be released officially
Kichikuou Rance- 20% translated
Killer Queen - 97 % translated 11312/13785lines
Kizuato - 182/246 scripts translated
Lamento ~Beyond the Void~ -4%
Lamia no Baai - ~1/7th of the game translated, plus some new translation on top of that
LILITH-IZM03- 75% patch out
>Little Busters - ~70%, new patch released with Komari's route, Mio route 70% translated, Haruka route 31% translated
Love Plus- Dialogue translation: 25.8%
>Majikoi- Prologue patch out, Yukie route TL progress: 48%
Misleet- 90% translated
M&M Enchanting Magic & Sweet Charms- 61%
>Muv Luv full patch released - Alt progress - 1013.9 KB/2738.39 KB (37.03%) Muv Luv overall (Ex/Un/Alt) progress, 3530.12/ 5253.50 KB (67.20%) translated, 1st Alternative patch released
>Never 7 - 20 of 97 scripts translated
>Osananajimi wa Daitouryou ~My girlfriend is the President.~ Translation/Editing 100%, QC 74.7%
Pantsu wo Miseru koto, Sore ga - 2 scripts translated, C&D, continuing
>Period- All image/UI editing complete, Miyu's route translation complete, game total translation:26.44% complete
Popotan- still going very slow, but image editing is nearly finished
Princess Maker 5- 16%, image translation 100%, editing underway
Princess Nightmare - Translator said the project is still active, but very slow, nearly 50% translated

Prision Battleship 2 - 40% translated
Pure Pure The Story of Ears and Tails- Sachi Patch released, 60.92% translated
>Rance 1- Because of problems hacking the remake of Rance 2, the translator is now working on Rance 1. There are plans to translate other Rance titles afterwards
Rin ga Utau, Mirai no Ne-iro- Being translated
Sa.Na.Ra.Ra - 5 completed scripts
School Days- Translation at 100%, chapters 1-3 released, project reconized by 0verflow, episode 4 in alpha
Seinarukana - Prologue and Chapter 1 translated, translation at 9.1%, image editing mostly complete, chapter 2 translation almost complete
Sensei Da-isuki 2- 20%, still being worked on
>Shirotsume Souwa -Episode of the Clovers- Project stalled until farther notice
Sin- 50% of episode 1 translated
Sono Hanabira 3 - To begin as soon as 7 is finished
Sono Hanabira 5 - stalled
Sono Hanabira 7 - 50% translated, plan to finish within the next 2-4 weeks
Sweet Pool- Active translation ongoing
Tenshi No Inai 12-Gatsu-"status: ~translating:active~"
Togainu No Chi- 69% translated
To Heart2- 51% - "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", Tama-nee alpha patch released, Yuma's route translated
Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side: 2nd Kiss - 1st (not complete) patch is in beta
Tomoyo After - New translator working on it, "Project is still being actively translated."
Touka Gettan: translation status: ~30% translated
Umineko 7 - Translation: 34% Editing: 20%
Under The Moon- 6% translated/checked/programmed
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na -picked up by the guy doing Ashita no Kimi to Autame Ni, most of the first day translated
Yosuga no Sora - 20% translated
YU-NO- Total: 3499.85/3995.61 KB (87.59 %), Prologue patch released, all normal routes translated, translation moving onto the epilogue chapter, Editing at 1558.57/3995.61 KB (39.01%)

Official work

MangaGamer:
Da Capo: IF - Next release, testing complete
Koihime Musou - 1/31/2011 scheduled release, trial out, in testing
Zaishuu The SiN - Pushed back to focus more on Koihime
Da Capo II - Winter, in testing
Dear Drops -picked up
Harukoi Otome - Being translated
Unannounced title- translation and editing finished
Ef - Bringing over both the first and latter tale
Ongoing talks with a company whose bread and jam you would not want to eat
Chance they may be bringing over Kara no Shoujo, according to Kouryuu
Picked up a Circus title with gameplay
Two additional teasers (both audio) have yet to be identify
Additionally, random sex romps are scheduled as well

JAST
Demonbane- delayed
Jingai Makyou- Not mentioned in their panel
Nitro Royale- being translated
DraKoi- fully fan translated, image editing is finished as well, however scripts are unlikely to be released outside of an official Jast release
Yumina the Ethereal - announced, expected to be released within a year
>Sumaga- 78.5%, still being translated, unlikely to be released outside of an official Jast release
Muramasa - Chapter 3 complete, but because it is Nitro+, it is uncertain what will come from the project

Other
HgameZ is alive again, possible releases in the future
Kisaragi no Hogyoku- English trial out, now being translated as part of project T0rama
>Bible Black Infection- Release date was listed as November 16th, but it does not look like it has been released yet
---
Upcoming from active fan groups
Some LiarSoft will be done by Ixrec after the Muv Luv saga
Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side 3rd Love Plus -- Planned by the translators doing 2
---
>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

Best thread of the week is here etc.

The best thread of the week is finally here!

yay it's here

So many 'no updates, kinda sad/

>Fortune Arterial- 47 of 122 scripts translated, 14 of 122 scripts edited, upcoming trial patch 50% QC
wow
>G-Senjou no Maou- Translation:1751.55/1811.40 KB (96.70%), editing ongoing
yay
>Period- All image/UI editing complete, Miyu's route translation complete, game total translation:26.44% complete
looked up on vndb, kind of looks interesting
>Apathy Midnight Collection Vol. 1 - 8 of 11 arcs translated, should be done by November
one week of november left

>>Hoshizora no Memoria - 8.6% translated, recieved a C&D, continuing.

M.Bison YES!.... YES!.avi

>Yosuga no Sora - 20% translated
>To Heart2- 51%
Monthly dose.

>Hoshizora no Memoria - 8.6% translated, recieved a C&D, continuing
It started moving more swiftly again, yay.
>Cartagra - Translation is pretty much finished, QC/beta next
What's up with that, I expected it to be out by now ;_;

>Apathy Midnight Collection Vol. 1 - 8 of 11 arcs translated, should be done by November

I'm waiting warmly. Not sure if anything will come of it though.

G-string almost finished, LB! progress every week, translation of other Rance games mentioned... things are going really good lately. I wonder how's Tomoyo After going.

Also, I'm a bit sad for Shirotsume Souwa, but I understand and respect the translator's choice. I think he did the right one.

I don't think we'll see anything anytime soon from the AMC guy. He has been working on it for the past few years, and only decided to tell people about it in the Summer. He never updates his wordpress. I'm rather skeptical.

http://mikanosuke.wordpress.com/2010/06/26/apathy-midnight-collection-vol-1-translation-project/

>To Heart2- 51%
>>Osananajimi wa Daitouryou ~My girlfriend is the President.~ Translation/Editing 100%, QC 74.7%
>QC 74.7%

FUCK

There was a short Demonbane update posted by JAST earlier this week. Nothing we didn't already know. Unless Nitro+ converting the Demonbane script to a new engine is new.

http://www.nitroplususa.com/demonbane-update/

Umineko episode 7 translation has hit 70%.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3350444#post3350444

>>6481077
>We are corresponding with Nitroplus almost daily

I'm sure they are.

>>6481077

It's not, they've been doing it since, like, May.

>Sumaga- 78.5%

It's official, gkck no longer gives a fuck.

>>6481077

I just realized they opened pre-orders ... over a year ago,

>>6480996
i-it's just QC! they'll be done soon! the patch will be out before you know it!

>>6481645
Do you blame him for it?
Why bother translating if it's never going to get released?

>>6481296
>JAST: Are the engine fixes done yet?
>N+: No
ad infinitum

What VN is OP's pic from?

>>6481920
Read the bloody filename.

>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 43% translated, second partial patch out
About time.

>>6481933
Whoops, my bad. Thanks.

>>6480787
>swift
It's probably due to the lack of status updates after the C&D. I always kept to the same pace.

When is the official CHAOS;HEAD coming out?

>>6482183
A year after Demonbane at the earliest. Most likely never.

>Hoshizora - 8.6%

Oh boy I can't wait for 2015

>>6480704
>G-Senjou no Maou- Translation:1751.55/1811.40 KB (96.70%), editing ongoing
This is taking forever

>>6482193
Actually, late 2013 is a better estimate considering I started in August.

>>6481852
You know, good point. Which brings me to ask, why was Hanachirasu released fanlated while other N+ titles that weren't even announced by JAST won't? They were both TLWiki projects.

>>6482331

Because JAST doesn't give a fuck about a 4-hour long game that won't sell for shit?

>Never 7 - 20 of 97 scripts translated
Fast as shit.

I want my Baldr Sky and Muramasa...

>>6482385
;_;

>>G-Senjou no Maou- Translation:1751.55/1811.40 KB (96.70%), editing ongoing
I can hardly contain my excitement.

>Fortune Arterial- 47 of 122 scripts translated, 14 of 122 scripts edited, upcoming trial patch 50% QC
Like a bat out of hell, what's with this progress.

>Killer Queen - 97 % translated 11312/13785lines
>Kizuato - 182/246 scripts translated
Another week of this...

>>Sumaga- 78.5%, still being translated, unlikely to be released outside of an official Jast release
This makes me sad, never should have read the partial patch.

>>6482345
Did they ever said that?

>G-Senjou no Maou- Translation:1751.55/1811.40 KB (96.70%), editing ongoing
Close! Waiting so warmly.

>Katahane- 27963/32287 lines (86.61%) translated, both Shirohane chapters are fully translated
Come on... come on...

Cheers for more Never7 and Hoshimemo.

>Love Plus- Dialogue translation: 25.8%
Oh c'mon.

>>6481936
first time i see this going foward

>G-Senjou no Maou- Translation:1751.55/1811.40 KB (96.70%), editing ongoing

Oh god. Cannot contain excitement.

>Little Busters - ~70%, new patch released with Komari's route, Mio route 70% translated, Haruka route 31% translated
>Majikoi- Prologue patch out, Yukie route TL progress: 48%
>Muv Luv full patch released - Alt progress - 1013.9 KB/2738.39 KB (37.03%) Muv Luv overall (Ex/Un/Alt) progress, 3530.12/ 5253.50 KB (67.20%) translated, 1st Alternative patch released
>Osananajimi wa Daitouryou ~My girlfriend is the President.~ Translation/Editing 100%, QC 74.7%

Waiting warmly.

Forgive my ignorance but is there really no one that is willing to edit Killer Queen?
Kinda sad to see a VN almost translated but no where near being released.

>>6482677
Because it needs a TLC before editing.

I approached one of these projects to help edit to see the project become finished quicker, but I had no idea how tedious and boring editting is so I avoided it...

>>6482677
>>6482682
From the guy who's translating Mio's route in Little Busters :
>Now I'm a TL checker for the Killer Queen translation project! But not quite sure what to do. Read and correct where sounds weird...?
http://twitter.com/DetectiveDango

>search otome wa boku ni koishiteru
>no results
>green text

hey mate can I ask you something? Are you a white guy who learned Japanese? Because I am trying to. If yes how long did it take you? And where do you live, and is your girlfriend Asian? ty

>>6482891

>>6482873
Thanks anon. I chuckled a bit.

>Osananajimi wa Daitouryou ~My girlfriend is the President.~ Translation/Editing 100%, QC 74.7%

I guess my shouting at Piroko didn't help much, will abuse him more this time.

Deep in a Thicket - 60%, maybe I'll finish it tonight let's see. hoho

Hey OP can you answer my question please.
>>6482891

And he quit the TLC the next day. See the wiki page history.

>Rance 1- Because of problems hacking the remake of Rance 2, the translator is now working on Rance 1. There are plans to translate other Rance titles afterwards
Can you link the project site or whatever for this? The Anons who tried starting Rance 2 project some time ago here actually got the tools done.

>>6483050
Why would anyone plan to translate a horrible game like Rance 1?

>>6483055
It's Rance, translating it will result in internet fame. I was planning on getting tools for them so they can do Rance 2.

>>6483050

http://rancetranslationproject.blogspot.com/
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246117&page=1

you could write a new engine from scratch for Demonbane while N+ have been trolling Jast

>Galaxy Angel: Moonlit Lovers- Milfie route complete, shared routes complete, about 16474 lines remaining

Looking forward to it. First one was more fun than I expected.

Bump.

>>6482682
No-one wants to TLC Killer Queen because they basically have to retranslate it from scratch.

A few editors tried their hand at editing it, but the tl was so bad they couldn't understand what was going on and they gave up. I think one of them wrote about it somewhere in Amaterasu's forums if any of you are curious. Either way, the project's waiting on a dedicated TLCer/retranslator. Go bug a fluent person if you're deperate to see it out by 2012.

>>6482677
Or you can just rebuild the script yourself and play it right now (with the incorrect, Engrishy translation). The game is fully voiced and if you aren't an idiot, you can make enough sense of the translation to play the game...

Honestly, it's not that hard; the scripts on tlwiki are already ready to go. All you have to do is take the six files in order and link them together (i.e., open notepad and copy-paste six times) and then save it as "0.txt" in the game's directory. Then you rename or move the original nscript.dat and put an ONScripter or ONScripter-EN binary in the folder, and launch it.

>>6483789
>if you aren't an idiot, you can make enough sense of the translation to play the game...
Shows that you haven't read through it.

>>6483801
or that he's one of the Flyable Heart devs and thinks words at random means a good translation

>>6483801
>Autism, pessimism, hatred for non-Japanese-speakers
'sup /jp/

>>6483789
>>6483801
To be fair, any translation is better than no translation at all. Or, reading through ATLAS.

So tired to wait for KnS and Cartagra.

>>6483814
ATLAS is better.

>>6484030
The elder sister is a clitoris
Rokuhara eat manure and grow fat! Steadily, steadily, until its legs no longer stand!

>>6484030
it's pathetic that people gobble this shit up as long as they can play another eroge

>>6484030
But that isn't really the translation, right?

...Right?

>>6484030
I agree, at least atlas romanizes what it doesn't understand.

>>6484083
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=TL02B01_TL02B09.txt

Ctlr+F 'and around the'

>;分別がつくようになるとそれは本格化。２人は姉と弟のように仲良く育
った。\
>`That was regularized by the time in which they were able to make judgements. The 2 of them had grown up to be like a big sister and younger brother.\
>; (check)

>;小学校の高学年になる頃、その頃特有の照れ臭さで一度２人の関係に亀
裂が入るものの、とある事件をきっかけにその関係が修復する。\
>`And around the time elementary schoolのupper gradeになる頃、その頃characteristicsのembarrassingさで一度２人のrelationにcracked(f
issure)が入る but、a certain event をchance(due)にそのrelationがrepaired.\

>;それは交通事故だった。\
>`That was a traffic accident.\

>;彼女が車に轢かれかけ、総一がそれを救った。その時総一は代わりに少
し車にぶつかり骨折した。\
`When she was almost ran over by a car, Souichi saved her. In that moment Souichi was hit a bit by the car in her place and had a bone fracture.\

>;その事件のおかげで２人の関係は完全に修復した。\
>`Thanks to that event, the relationship between the two was perfectly repaired. \

>;そして総一を見舞い、そして見舞われるうちに、お互いをかけがえのな
い相手であると思うようになった。\
>`Then she visited Souichi, and while she was visitting him they became each other's irreplacable partner.\

:(

>>6483941
Uncanny resemblance spotted!

where is the site for fortune arterial translation group?
anyone can link me to it?

>>6482540
http://gokusaishiki.wordpress.com/projects-to-come/
There will be Ouran Host Club and Fushigi Yuugi translations completed by the time you see a Love Plus one.

>>6484151
nvm found it

So looks like Angel Beats is getting a VN.

>>6484183
It's no doubt going to be all-ages, and that makes me sad.

Progress on the Rewrite Trial, finally:
>LoSs has changed the topic to “Rewrite - Scissormen/General | Progress: 11000 lines translated | Tools: http://www.mediafire.com/?eirnikymoem | We are looking for translators & editors”

Don't go saying "but it's just a demo." 11000 lines is longer than plenty of games already. The progress made here means the full game will already be a year closer to translation when it is released.

>Rance 1
Considering its pretty short, I hope it doesn't take long to do.

>>6484030
>>6484107
>>6484123
Congratulations, you managed to find a few untranslated lines in a game that isn't fully translated.
Nobody is claiming that the entire thing is perfect, or even decent.
Most of the translation is readable and comprehensible, but poorly written. The nonsense lines you have posted are most certainly the exception rather than the rule.

>>6484224
>LoSs
Still waiting on Tenshi No Inai 12-Gatsu, Dra+Koi, that ML:TE demo, the Tanaka Romeo VN...

What are the odds that Cartagra will be out before Christmas? I'm wondering should I bother with downloading it now.

>Nitro Royale- being translated

finally!? btw, what is "JAST" for?

>>6484030
Is there a patch? Those crazy unedited lines and everything?

>>6484392
JAST is for killing the eroge scene.

>>6484235

But it makes you feel good when you know you'd have translated the lines just as good if you had tried. And here I thought I was bad at Japanese.

>>6484407
explain, do they remove them or add blurr?

>>6484449
They release stuff officially, usually uncensored. Have you played Yume Miru Kusuri? Yes, that's their release.

>>6484483
Yume Miru Kusuri? I don't remember watching that anime.

>>6484553

age

It looks like this went under the radar for a few months:
http://www.secretshrine.org/

>Mahou Shoujo Subaru (http://vndb.org/v3003))
>Patch with first 500 lines released
>Patch every 250 lines
>12608 lines in total

They seem to be using some custom retrans-like system where anybody can enter a translation, with lines 500-750 currently up on the site.

Sweet Pool devs have disappeared.

>Apathy Midnight Collection Vol. 1 - 8 of 11 arcs translated, should be done by November

I won't forget that this exists. Even if the translator probably has.

I would like to see Dream Club translated...

>>6486450
X360 and PSP? Dream on...

>>6486751
dream on
dream on
dream on
dream on

>>6484224

So what percentage is that?

Also, that demo is gigantic.

>>6486862
The game isn't out yet, so there's so way of knowing.

>>6485264
Speaking of SubaHibi...

http://forums.novelnews.net/showthread.php?t=35910
>Translation Bounty: Subarashiki Hibi
>I originally made this proposition to two individuals in private. One of them declined, and the other said at the time they'd give it a shot, but has since stopped returning my E-mails. So now I've decided to make it public - I'm not really expecting any takers, but who knows? At the least, the sight of it might remind people to answer their messages.
>I like Subarashiki Hibi. I would like to share it with those of my acquaintances who have higher priorities in life than to become fluent in the Japanese language. That seems to apply to me as well (or I'm just lazy) and attempting a translation myself would no doubt be disastrous. So, instead, I wish to offer my small collection of VN merchandise as encouragement for anyone who might be interested in doing a proper job of it.
>The cream of the crop is probably the MuvLuv stuff I bought at AX, while the most pertinent to SubaHibi would be the Yuki dakimakura/tapestry set I have coming my way - or, if you'll accept nothing else, the first press edition of the game itself. There is more, but I won't spam by listing every last possession of mine.
>You don't even need to commit to translating the entire game - I'd be content to see the trial version patched, which might stir up interest and encourage someone else to take up the mantle.
>E-mail me if you're at all interested; if you have what it takes, I hope we can work out a reward to your liking.
Picture of the Muv-Luv stuff: http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1333/lootw.jpg

>>6486291
The guy running it admitted that he couldn't read hiragana, and actively encouraged people to use machine translations, so I don't think it should be counted as a serious project imo.

>>6488217
>picture
>muluv
>ar tonelico
why

>>6486291
>>6488217
Stop posting retarded shit in this thread.

If Sumaga is ever released, will JAST censor it (i.e. the loli route)?

>>6488217
How much lower can Subahibi fangirls fall?

>>6488243
Actually, it's basically a sublime trolling against the guy mentioned
>and the other said at the time they'd give it a shot, but has since stopped returning my E-mails.
whose identity should be quite obvious. Hint: dat g-senjou project in limbo for months

>>6488243
I think it's a very reasonable proposition. Especially since the person is giving away their stuff.

>>6488230
You mean Mira? I doubt it.

>>6488517
Not really. It'll just attract some retard who's in it for the loot who'll stick around for 2 scripts then discover it's just as long as MLA but with added DEEP STUFF and promptly runs off.

>>6488217
It's pathetic how much this game is hyped
Last time something like this happened it was Gore Screaming Show, and we all know what kind of game that is
Not saying Subahibi a bad game, but you're way overrating it with shit like this

>>6488687
Only retards hyped GSS.
But Subahibi got a lot of post release hype even in Japan, it just took people by surprise.
What is bad about it? Sure it attracts retards but retards are everywhere so who care.

>>6487997

No, I mean 'what percentage of the demo is done?'

>>6484224
How many lines are there in total?

Can someone remind me why there's no translation attempt for Stiens;Gate? Everyone kept saying it was better than Chaos;Head.

>>6489593
That's not exactly a difficult feat

>>6486301

Seems like it. What a pity.

>>6489690
Blah blah chaos;head is shit blah blah.

Stiens;Gate--weren't people excited about it?

>>6489972

That means nothing. Subahibi is highly rated yet no one is ever going to pick it up.

Instead, we get complete shitpiles like Muv-Luv instead.

>>6490093
Get out Disney devs!

>>6489972
Just wait and see if the anime brings people to do it.

>>6490093
the only reason Muv-Luv was translated is because Alternative suffers a bit without it. You wouldn't understand the ending and the characters without it. And besides the military jergon and quantity of text, it's pretty easy to translate.
Subahibi has a lot of text, and most of it is quite difficult to translate. Most translators don't think about picking it up because it's more trouble than they are willing to bargain for,
Ixrec doesn't care about degrading the original script as long as he can say he brought a masterpiece to the english scene though (as seen for Cross Channel), so you can hope he'll choose it for the project after Forest.

>>6490124
The project after forest is Sharnoth, due to popular demand and that he liked it.
And just maybe, kusarihime, but probably won't

>>6490124
People always say Subahibi is extremely tough material to work with but is that really true? Is the game really that wordy and difficult to understand?

>>6490153
Subarashiki hibi has this bad habit of sometimes copypasting books.

>>6490153

From what I understand it's rather like Cross+Channel in that it a lot of throwaway details end up being really important. And yeah, there's a lot of direct quotations from complicated philosophy texts.

>>6490133

I think we just have to get him to read Subahibi in the first place. Ixrec seems to love mindfuck-type stuff.

>>6490133
He should move on from Liar-soft.
Forest is basically the best thing they did by far, translate it then move on to something equally good from some other company.

>>6490231
he should start reading some shit now that Sona Nyl is coming out and he'll read some VNs.

>>6490242
He's already translating muv luv, he can translate Masked Shanghai for all I care.

>>6490158
About that.
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=SubaHibi:_LitNotes

The recurring references to Wittgenstein got a bit tiring after a while but the Cyrano scene was fucking perfect, one of the best scene I saw in eroge.

>>6490283

Well, at least the writer is educated.

>>6490283

....Am I going to have to read all that crap just to understand Subahibi?

Truly the new insurmountable wall of the eroge medium.

>>6490292
Not really.
All the references are self-contained or well explained.

>>6490297

Then why is it so hard to translate? Most of these books are available in English, right?

>>6490303
It's not that hard to translate.
But there are basically 2 good translators in the english fandom, Makoto who is busy with Muramasa and Ixrec who is busy with Alt.

>>6490311
you forgot moogy (probably the best)

>>6490314
We should pitch a translation reality show to fox starring him.

>>6490292
No, to me and I'm sure to anyone who likes it, all the pretentious talks and reference are nothing more then a cover to Subahibi, none of the real enjoyment comes from those, rather, the beautifully planned story is where it's at.

>>6490314
Has moogy personally translated anything?

>>6490366
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=User:Moogy

>>6490366
moogy literally does not know Japanese

>>6490366
Edits things, mostly, tried his hand at Subahibi but dropped it.

Why did the sumaga patch guys join up with JAST?

>>6490414
in before support etc

>>6490414
Literally ages ago. Sumaga is sort of odd in that the guy keeps translating it and updating the progress despite the JAST deal--but then the same is true of Muramasa

>>6490486
He asked "why", not "when"

Okay
>only two scripts of G senjou left to translate
after that just editing.

>>6488817
The demo is 31000 lines and change, so the 11000 LoSs is reporting makes up a little more than a third of the demo. Those 31000 lines make up basically the entire common route of the game, and there are most likely five branch routes after that. So yes, Rewrite is a pretty damn long game.
I have heard reports that it is expected to be about the same length as LB!Ex, but I feel like it ought to be longer than that, if the common route alone is 31000 lines.

>>6491022
I doubt the common route will end at the end of the demo.
The group was just beginning to form, heck there is even a fastforward scene at the end that show the group when it's complete.

>>6491075
I heard the demo is 90% of the common route, but, hell, my point was just that "If the common route is this long, Rewrite is a really long game."
If you are saying the common route must be longer than the demo, all that means is that Rewrite is even longer!

Anyway, the massive size of this game is the reason why I am really glad translation is getting a head start now, before the game is even released.

>>6491022
The demo probably isn't 31000 lines, it didn't felt that long.
31000 lines is basically the length of Air, there must be some script in there and shit.

With regards to SubaHibi, the literary references only enhance the experience, if you're into that sort of thing. And even if you're not, it's done well and doesn't really detract from the story (having said that I'm only on It's My Own Invention). I highly doubt that there's any need to go tracking down everything that Wittgenstein has ever wrote just to understand it. The scene at the end of Down the Rabbit Hole with Zakuro and the Night on the Galactic Railroad was fucking perfect and worked well because it was such an odd and mystical scene anyway.

>>6491022
Holy fuck, is rewrite going to be even longer then clannad? Its took 2 years to get too after story and im still stuck because i cant get fukko and fukko sisters light...

>>6491103
First of all, Air is about 50000 lines. That aside, though, 31000 lines is still longer than plenty of games that aren't exactly short, so it is indeed a little ridiculous for a demo... However, the people working on translating/editing/hacking the trial seem pretty certain about the length (they gave an exact number, but I forgot it), so either the game is longer than it seems, or it is as you say and the demo includes more of the script than it reveals in-game.

It is like 2 GB, after all... It's easy to see that whatever it is, it's quite huge.

>>6491135
The script is not 2 gb, you idiot.

>>6491139
Obviously it isn't. Even a print novel is only about 3 or 5 hundred kilobytes (and normal-length VNs are generally about 1MB, which goes to show how much more text they have than standard books).

Now, I know you are autistic, so you can't understand it when people talk to you, but let me try to explain it again. The rewrite trial is about 2GB. It's not quite that much, and installed, it's even less, but that isn't the point (don't give me some bullcrap about 1.9 != 2.0).

So is someone going to translate Subarashiki Hibi? On the grounds that they get paid with a dakimakura/Muv-Luv merchandise?

>Sumaga
Roughly 7 months, roughly 68% translated.
About 1.5 years later, less than 10% done.

They lost the ,otivation after the JAST deal didn't they?
Sure I would love to have a special edition copy of Sumaga in english (though would they ever release such a thing?), but I remember the preliminary release date was approximated to be during october of 2009 or something, or perhaps it was december.

In either case they believed it would be done the same year they started, and according ot the statistics it looked as if they actually could have made it.
Then the translation just plummeted however and now here we are.

>>6491246
It doesn't matter, because it can't be released until after Demonbane anyway.

>>6491261
Why's that?

>>6490404
>Demonbane
The fuck? Makoto translated Al route and LoSs did everything else. What the hell did Moogy do?

>>6490311
What about TakaJun and gp32? Well, gp32's dead and even I have to say TakaJun translates everything too literally giving editors hell which makes his translations not as good as Makoto and Ixrec.

>>6491285
Editing Taka's writing twisted my understanding of the English language, slowly... Slowly...

>>6491279
Because Nitro+ insists that everything goes through them before it reaches the market, and they are currently "working" (ha...) on Demonbane

>>6491285
TakaJun is a good translator in the most technical sense, but as a non-native English speaker, he is not a good writer (which is what good translation really entails). TakaJun's translation abilities require an editor with literary genius to produce the same sort of final product that Ixrec can make mostly on his own.

That said, TakaJun's translation style works fine for the sort of games he likes to play and translate anyway, so as long as he sticks to moeshit and the like, everything will be fine.

In terms of Subahibi, TakaJun basically hated it, so I would certainly hope/expect that he wouldn't want to translate it in the first place. Ixrec hasn't played it yet, but I think he will love it, and if he loves it enough, he will want to translate it soon-ish, I predict. Makoto probably isn't going to translate Subahibi.
Now, what about Moogy? I don't think Moogy really likes translating, and I don't think he feels confident enough in his ability to properly render SubaHibi in English (which is why he didn't translate it after all...) If no one picks it up for a long time, Moogy might actually do it at some far off point in the distance, but that would be far enough away that an Ixrec translation is still a much more imminent possibility.

I am also assuming that nobody else will come out of nowhere and want to translate it. I think SubaHibi reaches the level that a shitty noob translator couldn't really touch it in the first place, and I think any other not-so-genius but experienced translators on the scene are probably more content to leave it to one of the above (or at least will be afraid to get in the way).

>>6491285
>gp32's dead
Not dead. He just got lost on a mountain and was never head from again.

Ixrec is great, not sayng othrwise.

And I am also sure has improved alot since his last work, as he have steadly goten bete betwwn ach and every patch.

But Ixrec still does a little too many horrible errors in his translations.
Such as parts who even get their meaning inverted etc, horrible mistakes in other words, and the bad part is how there are more than just one or three or so, but that they keep coming.

But yes, it is still a rare problem, and at the whole it never really affects the work in any significant way.
ut the core differences here is how Ixrec's turns out into sensible english,, but you will need compedetative knowledge of Japanese and the source text to sort out these sorts of mistakes.
TakaJun's grasp of Japanese is however on a whole other level, so those sorts of mistakes is not comonly a problem, the trade-off here is how the english can come out a bit garbled.

tl;dr
Ixrec makes daunting and unacceptable translation errors.
TakaJun may gives the editors a heavy work load with garbled english.

know Ixrec is proud or something for his translation speed, but honestly I would say that he would do fine to done that whole thing down a bit if he could take some more time to concentrate etc
Because it's all great otherwise.

>>6491392
Yes, I think you've nailed down the central dichotomy here. The ideal translator is someone who possesses a literary genius in BOTH languages, in addition to having a deep involvement with the cultures and canons associated with each (For example, Vladimir Nabokov's translation of Eugene Onegin from Russian into English).

However, even with as much talent, knowledge, and confidence as he had, he still basically wrote two separate translations of Eugene Onegin: One which was more literal and preserved the meaning and cultural nuances as best he could, and another which focused on literary style and preserved the unique "Onegin Stanzas" (a complex system of rhyme and meter unique to the play).

Basically, even if there is no bottleneck on either the "Source" or "Target" sides, there is still no "perfect" translation. Translation is a fundamentally error-inducing concept. To bring this back to the situation at hand, both Ixrec's translations and TakaJun's can be said to be "good", even if they are completely different.
In these cases, there are bottlenecks (Ixrec's in his experience with Japanese, and TakaJun's in his knowledge of English), but the result of these is that each of the two will simply choose a different side of that dichotomy that even Nabokov couldn't overcome.

>>6491491
VNs and other voiced medium have a few odd complications as well. Something I run into a lot with doujin stuff is that a normal conversation or question will be better expressed in the opposite for lingual reasons, especially when characters start using double negatives which aren't a grammatical clusterfuck in Japanese. I can get to just change the no to a yes to preserve the conversation flow without it coming off looking retarded. You lose a little bit of that freedom to create the appropriate sentence structure along the way.

>>6491578
Well, really, you are highlighting an interesting issue that is almost specific to J->E translation. Translation between Germanic, Slavic, and Romance languages is going to be a lot more straightforward than translation between any one of those and a language like Japanese or Korean, which are almost "Language Isolates" in the first place.
Those double negatives work just fine in Japanese, because of the whole "indirection" thing, but their translation into English is difficult because of the amazing flexibility of the English language: They can be translated literally, and yield a clusterfuck, as you described, or they can be modified for the sake of sounding natural in English.

Actually, that brings up another point I have thought about. In the overarching weeaboo community, we put up with a lot of strange linguistic patterns which can best be described as "artifacts of translation." Things like "It can't be helped" for example. Basically, the English translations we produce and consume are really more like a strange hybrid. They wouldn't seem nearly as acceptable to someone with no experience with Japanese culture as they do to us.

>>6491715
I only casually watch anime / play VNs, and the kinda hybrid you're talking about always bothers me. I can handle it, but I'd prefer not to. I like it and can relate more to the story, characters, etc, when everything flows a bit more naturally.

>>6491715
The no experience thing is also interesting. We accept or even expect major modifications to scripts when done by professionals, but god help the fan translator who changes anything at all. It's better now than it was 15 years ago when the script was more like a guideline but it's really not all that better these days. The tradeoff is that professional translations are less likely to be the grammatical disasters that most fan translations are. Even the best ones make me want to break out the red pen and fixing simple comma and tense errors.

>>6491760
My sense is that "Professional" translators do certainly avoid that "hybrid" style I referred to before, but in terms of the quality of the English, it's still a toss up. The best fan translators are much much better (in terms of grammar, mechanics, and readability) than most "Professional" translations I have read, but the pros do at least have somewhat higher level of consistency: Their worst is much better than the worst of the fan translations, and their best isn't quite as good (the pros have a narrower range, in other words).

Now, though, we are seeing quite a number of these "collaborations" spring up (NNLxMangagamerxMinori, JASTxtlwikixNitroplus, SekaiProjectx0verlow, etc), and I am thinking that this might be the "answer." Translations that originate with fans will have the potential to surpass standard "professional" translations, and the supervision of the original developer will mean that a totally shitty translation (worse than the lowest quality pro TLs) won't get through.

Basically, I am thinking that these collaborations will move the range from either [pro-low]-[pro-high] or [fan-low]-[fan-high] to [pro-low]-[fan-high], which is more optimal than either of the two non-collaborative ranges.
Of course, before any of that, we have to see one of these things actually come to fruition...

>>6491823
I was more thinking about console games like Persona or similar when I wrote that. Honestly, I've been extremely underwhelmed by every professional translation of VNs (and anime subs for that matter). They're rife with typos, linguistic errors, and other problems that really don't significantly distinguish them from fan work except that they take longer and they charge you for them.

>>6491285
>The fuck? Makoto translated Al route and LoSs did everything else. What the hell did Moogy do?

LoSs only translated a few scripts of Demonbane, actually. I didn't do much more myself, though - only around 1000 lines, so I suppose I should probably list myself as "minor TL" on that too, but whatever. The translator who did the vast majority of Ruri and Leica's routes doesn't want to be named until the game is released, but his nick is in the credits.

>>6491314
>I don't think Moogy really likes translating
I love translating, I'm just 神経質 about whether or not I'm bringing across the original correctly. I have a pretty strong/distinct writing style and try as I might I can't really suppress it. Recently, though, I've been convinced by Makoto to try my hand at a game I've had my eye on for a while, so we'll see how that goes. I've been enjoying the challenge so far, at least.

>>6491022

Well, L-B's common route was like 50% of the game's script, due to all the variable and whatnot, right?

Rewrite's demo might be so big because of the same thing.

>>6492557
>I have a pretty strong/distinct writing style and try as I might I can't really suppress it.

Ixrec can't either. Muv-Luv Extra reads kinda similar to Cross+Channel sometimes.

age

It's sad this conversations are the only way to keep this threads alive.

>>6492557
Wait you are actually translating something right now?

>>6492557
Wait, you are actually translating something right now?

>>6493651
>Current projects: ■□■ (TL)
>Current Project Progress
7/40
Taken from his tlwiki profile. Whatever the project is, I have no idea.

>>6493674
I hope it's the Hanachirasu minigame.

>>6493696
I saw Moogy telling someone on VNDB that he wasn't going to translate it.

>>6493674

I think it's Himawari (http://vndb.org/v210))

Sora is not amused by this bullshit.

>>6493674

It's a Nitro+ game. Not the Hanachirasu mini-game though.

>>6494762
Dra+Koi? No he probably doesn't have the balls to do that.
Maybe Django then, it wasn't that long.

>>6494762

But the only interesting Nitroplus game left that's not licensed or translated already is Hello, World.

>>6494762
let it be Azathoth-D

>>6494765
>Dra+Koi? No he probably doesn't have the balls to do that.
wasn't Dra+Koi pretty much already translated, and only put on hold because of JAST?

>>6494765
dra koi was already done.
>>6494769
maybe vjedogonia? I heavily doubt it's angelos armas.

Finally a thread that's useful instead of a thread about how fat we are and how we need a male to female gender change

>>6494765

Dra+Koi is already translated, just JAST.

>>6494765

I figure it's Dra+Koi from the things I've seen him say in IRC, but yeah, I don't know if he will even release it this time so I guess it doesn't really matter. Also, I think JAST wants to release Django and Makoto plans on translating it.

>>6494775

I think LoSs did it and then dropped it because it was too hard and the same for Moogy.

>>6494780

Maybe, but he's re-translating it because the last translation(s) sucked.

>>6494777
>angelos armas

Huh, now that DOES look interesting.

>>6494765
Dra+Koi is translated.

I hope it's Phantom (wwwwwww).

>>6494787
That sounds like some typical moogy level bullshit to me.

>>6494788
It doesn't, at all.
It's their worst game for a reason.

>>6494797

Which is why I'm cynical about it actually being released.

>>6494809
What reason?

Personally, the N+ game I want to see most that doesn't have a project yet is Gekkou no Carnivale.

Hello, World will never be translated.

Mangagamer will never release Oretsuba either.

>>6494815
Personally I didn't like it much and the whole thing can be pretty rage worthy.

>>6494809
...What reason is that? I happen to like angels.

>>6494811
Actually that would explain something, maybe, since we've gotten 2 N+ shorts since the JAST deal but Dra+Koi hasn't been one of them. Or there could be another reason; I don't keep up with translation drama

And Subarashiki Hibi?
Dream on guys.

>>6494822

We just have to get Ixrec to play it. Chances he'll like it are high.

>>6494816
>>6494818
>>6494822
Well at least the best eroge ever™ is being translated.

>>6494836

JAST will never release it, though. They won't release Demonbane, either.

Subarashiki Hibi is so hyped and talked about these days, you guys probably already know a lot about it.
I'm really happy I played it on release day expecting a simple yuri eroge, I think the surprise factor is a big part of the experience.

>>6494858

I only know that it's fucked-up beyond belief. I know next to nothing about the plot or characters, and I'd like to keep it that way.

>>6494858
I tried playing it when it was released and It's my own invention bored me to tears.
then I picked it up this summer and liked it a lot.
But I went through it with near to none expectations.

>>6494858
is there only yuri? no normal sex?

>>6494875

There is every kind of sex.

>>6494848
Why, because they hate making money? If JAST falls through they'll just release it like normal. Why even worry about it? Of course it'll take years, but what else did you expect from a VN translation.

>>6494897
>If JAST falls through they'll just release it like normal.

This will never happen. Once it's licensed it's licensed forever, even if the company who licensed it dies.

>>6494892
>every
There's no real yaoi.

>>6494905
Uh, no?

It doesn't even last forever if the company doesn't die. You're thinking of copyrights and patents, not licensing.

>>6494905
Yeah, a N+ translation would never be released since the partnership with JAST.

HERP.

>>6494762
>It's a Nitroplus game
Confirmed, or just guesswork?

>>6494818
Since it's Navel it's going to be released by Mangagamer.

Drakoi sounds pretty uninteresting. I was hoping it would be something deep and pretentious since it's Moogy doing it.

>>6495053
Dra Koi is actually pretty good.
the only ultra good nitro+ work left is Hello world and it's massive.
And by massive I mean fourth longest VN in script size.

>>6495053
It is a bit pretentious, but it's short so you don't really notice it that much.

Personally I'm always surprised how many unheard of titles get translated compared to titles you are familiar with hearing about.

>>6494985
It has a 4mb script, it will never be translated

>>6495075
What the hell is Caroll doing in my Japanese gaems?

>>6494922

Right, my bad. My point is that even if JAST dies, I highly, highly doubt we'll suddenly see all these completed patches released on TLWiki.

>>6494918

Fucking a futa is pretty gay, though.

>>6495098

He's in Subahibi, too.

So now Gekkou no Carnevale and Hello, World are the only good Nitroplus titles left without any kind of translation plans or projects?

>>6495120

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Gekkou_no_Carnevale

>>6495112
Fucking the futa made more sense in Tsui no Sora.

>>6495143

I'd still prefer to see Subahibi translated over Tsui no Sora. Mostly because Subahibi is a remake of Tsui no Sora.

>>6495150
They are complimentary, there are even hints that Subahibi isn't a remake but actually a sequel.

>>6495155

Look, we have enough trouble getting Subahibi a translation project.

>>6495120
pretty much, unless you consider Steins;Gate nitro+ as well, and barring future titles like Axanael of course.

>>6495155
Are these "hints" more or less clear than the ones that Rebuild of Evangelion is actually a sequel to NGE?

>>6495141
The project's dead, Jim.

>>6495166

I'd hope it's less obvious than Rebuild. I mean, the ocean is even still red.

>>6495141
>History
>Last Edit: 11:15, 29 May 2009

Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games!

>>6495173

There was still a project.

>>6495180

I love how licensing turns out to be the worst possible route to take for all these games.

I sincerely hope shit like this never happens again.

>>6495179
It's NOT a sequel, it's just Anno's way of marketing, fucking up with the fanbase.

>>6495190
The licensing had nothing to do with Gekkou no Carnevale stopping. It was dead for a good year before it happened.

>>6495243
Might have something to do with the fact that the title immediately sounds like it's about geckos at a carnival.

>>6495248
only if you don't know shit about japanese though

>>6495254
But if you knew Japanese, you wouldn't need a translation in the first place, would you?

Bump for SubaHibi.

>>6495263
that guy said "it doesn't get translated because it sounds weird", but to any person skilled enough to translate "Gekkou" wouldn't sound weird at all so they would have no reason to not do it because of a name.
I was just questioning the logic of that statement.

bumping

>>6495936
You're taking things way too seriously.

>>6495936
There is more to a translation team than just the translator.

>>6497428
Not really.

>>6497438

>>6497447
It's not done until it's done!

>>6497428
Translators are the backbone of any project. Unless the translator is a total retard, he/she/they will always have the most work.

>>6497477
Hackers never get the respect or renown they deserce.

Depending on the project their task(s) can be utterly overwhelming.
Then again in some other rare projects they aren't needed at all, perhaps that has something to do with it.

>>6497499
You're shitting me, right? Most VNs use very well known file formats and extraction tools and are built off of each other. Even when they don't, it's only a few days to a week's worth of work at most if the hacker knows what they're doing. The issue is that there even fewer hackers in the VN TL scene than there are translators, so everybody wants their time, and almost none of them want to put in any effort since the work is mundane as shit.

>>6497499
I agree that some other roles don't get much respect or enough credit for their work, but following through my previous point, whether a game gets translated or not depends solely on the availability or dedication of a translator- which is always the limiting factor in translation of VNs, which require obscene amounts of time. A hacker's job may be incredibly tough depending on the nuances of the various game engines (esp. proprietary ones), but if any job is harder than the actual translating, then they're definitely doing it wrong.

>>6497499
Actually there are games where what the hacker has to go through is immensely difficult and tedious, because it needs a lot more work than extraction/reinsertion.
>>6497522
>almost none of them want to put in any effort since the work is mundane as shit.
Well, rather the problem is that no one wants to put much effort into something which more than likely doesn't get anywhere.

Can anyone list the ones are already complete?

>>6498914
http://www.shii.org/translate

>>6498930
hilariously outdated

>>6499397
B-B-But doing it yourself is so much more superior than doing a collaborative wiki page as a translation index!

Can somebody advise if Kara no Shoujo and Cartagra going to be released?

>>6499411
>doing it yourself
Shii is already dead from the net.

http://vndb.org/r?tp=complete;pa=0;ma_m=0;ma_a=0;q=;mi=0;ma=20119999;do=0;fw=0;ln=en;o=d;s=released

>>6499675
Yes, they will be.

>>6499675
There are rumours that KnS might be released by Mangagamer. I'm waiting warming for Cartagra though, and hoping that the translation will be released normally.

When are other nitro+ games going to get translated? Gekkou, Drakoi, Django (I'd personally like this to come out) are all left untranslated while crap like Yosuga no Sora is getting a translation.

>>6499693
Really? Does anybody still believes in this?

>>6499846
I have hope.

...;_;

>>6499735
No one cares about Shit+.

>>6499735
you deserve not getting a translation.

Talking about Kara no Shoujo and Cartagra, how are they related to each other? I remember something about reading Cartagra first because they have some connection.

>>6499735
>beggars being choosers

>>6500110
I think they were some cameos.

>>6500110
Kara no Shoujo takes place a few years after Cartagra, and the protagonist is a friend of Cartagra's protagonist. Cartagra's protag even appears in Kara no Shoujo and has a sprite of his own.

>>6497522
Hacking Sengoku Rance took a lot of work for a variety of reasons which I've long since forgotten. Certain specialized games can be a bitch to work out. Most are easy, though.

>>6499735
>Django
is this one getting translated? the artwork is amazing and so is the setting, I see no reason why it shouldn't be picked since JAST doesn't seem to release it any time soon

>>6500227
Makoto likes it, and he lists it as possible project after Muramasa. So maybe!

Is there a project for Ikusa Megami?
Or any Eushully game?

>>6500227
the game sucks though. The protagonist is a slut who fucks every goddamn monster she comes across, and the plot is a really bad version of the Good, Bad & Ugly.
>>6500268
nope as far as I know.

>>6500293
>the game sucks though.
Did we play the same game? I thought it was awesome

>>6500256
holy shit, source? i hope he translates it

>>6500374
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=User:Makoto

Can't say I'm excited. I'd rather take Gekkou no Carnevale, but beggars can't be choosers. But still, I'm really glad he's working on Muramasa.

>>6500374
Back when he finished Kikokugai he said he's gonna translate either Muramasa or Django.

>>6500406
Django is quite short. Not as short as Saya or Hanachirasu, but it shouldn't take long to translate it

Will anyone translate this?

>>6500432
Unless suddenly somebody who really likes it appears, I doubt it. Most of the people who have read it agree that it really isn't very good.

The soundtrack is awesome, though.

>>6500432
what game is this?

>>6500463
Angelos Armas. http://vndb.org/v429

>>6500432
Never, as it should be.