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Playing on easy.

Believing they have to memorize spell cards, rather than react to the game like they should be doing.

Thinking that Mari x Ali is a good pairing.

>>6470433
This, and running into bullets.

They don't stream.

I'm pretty bad at touhou.
>>6470435
is the only one I do.
I've only ever 1cc'd PCB and PoFV.

Not bombing enough

Playing as Homing shot Reimu first.

>>6470440
This is very important actually. You should never lose a life if you had bombs left.

Focusing rarely/never

They post on /jp/.

>>6470440
This continues to be the bane of my Touhou existence. I'm so determined to capture the card or stuck in the "there's no way I can die on just the stage part!" mindset that I'll die with 3-5 bombs in my pocket. Stupid. I've beaten 3 extra modes, so I'm not TOO bad, but I could be better.

Playing on slow and not playing on Lunatic on your first try.

By not holding shift for focused movement.

>>6470513
Is that really going to get you anywhere? I mean, not playing on easy, sure, but starting out with lunatic?

>>6470436

You jelly?

Not knowing how to stream

Moving too much

Moving entire pixels instead of minimal dodging

Dying instead of bombing

Stupid deaths due to ignoring enemies/bullets in favor of items/ufos

Hugging the bottom and forgetting that moving up and down are also dodging options

Focusing on the bullets instead of the space between them

Playing on easy

Playing as border team

Playing as border team on easy

>>6470541
Yes, it gives you a better idea of how you should play later on when the levels are harder and an idea of how you dodge bullets in a Touhou game. Maybe.

>>6470639
Starting on lunatic will just teach you that you should bomb every spellcard from stage two onwards. Easy is a bad place to start, but lunatic might be worse.

>>6470622
this

also giving up after dying on cirno and becoming a secondary

>>6470666
>dying on cirno
How?

>>6470674
THAT FUCKING ICICLE FALL

somebody told me later that you don't stand in the middle of the screen and dodge diagonally converging bullets, you move off to the side, and then it got better, also, i'm not the person you replied to

>>6470622
How do you dodge less than 1 pixel

>>6470674
Believe it or not, a lot of people start playing EoSD aware of the Icicle Fall - Easy baka cirno meme but somehow just can't figure how to dodge Icicle Fall - Normal, I think it's mind-boggling

>>6470622
>Hugging the bottom and forgetting that moving up and down are also dodging options

I hug the bottom for most spells, I just feel more safe that way. If a spell card requires me to move in all four directions (e.g. Kogasa's and Ichirin's last spell cards, all of Murasa's attacks), then I'll do so. Otherwise I consider moving up or down to fall under, well,

>Moving too much

>>6470622
Fuck you for posting every single thing I planned to post.

>>6470708
Hugging the bottom does let you drag against it for even slower movement, but it's often good to have a little buffer zone below you in case dodging downward is the best way to escape a sudden situation.

>>6470622
>Focusing on the bullets instead of the space between them

I think this is a rather important thing people should try to realize more. Bullet hell games are not about dodging bullets. They're about seeing the path to survival and taking that path. Well except for a few cards that are really reaction based like Eternal Meek. But on lunatic the only surefire way to survive it is to either bomb or use the safespot so maybe it kind of fits anyways.

So I'll be streaming along just fine and then suddenly I realize that I am pressed up against one of the sides of the screen without being able to get across the bullets to the other side, and then I'll be forced to bomb/die. Is there a good way to prevent this other than more touhou?

Playing IN first.

No wait, playing IN at all.

>>6470745
>Well except for a few cards that are really reaction based like Eternal Meek. But on lunatic the only surefire way to survive it is to either bomb or use the safespot

With the vsync patch to reduce input lag, capturing it reliably shouldn't be that much of a problem.

Playing touhou in the first place instead of a more interesting shoot 'em up.

>>6470843
IN is really fun. There's nothing wrong with enjoying it.

>>6470824
For most patterns, when you start getting close to the wall, unfocus and make a very quick movement towards it. It should create a hole that you can move through.

>>6470843
No, I must play against my Mokou

>>6470843

>in is a bad game

No it's not. Pic related

>>6470854
Thank you.

>>6470824
A little later than 3/4 of the screen into your stream, quickly let go of SHIFTFORFOCUSEDMOVEMENT and jump a fair distance in a short amount of time. This will create a gap in the aimed bullets and allow you to begin streaming in the other direction. Congrats, you now have a new lease on life.

On YouTube, watch a few of Raak1010's replays. One of Flandre's nonspells is a good example of this streaming technique.

>>6470824
You can often extend your life slightly by going up even if you fail to make a cutback. In a lot of games, you don't even have to stream, actually, you can just make a circle around the top.

>>6470854
>>6470894
>>6470898
Well crap, I spent all that time typing that out...

>>6470708

Vertical dodging is pretty useful. I don't know why you'd limit your movement options by sitting at the bottom of the screen. If you use pure left-right movement you're probably having a much harder time with the game than you need to.

>>6470902
Yeah in STGs with proper streaming you move in sort of a sideways 8, making use of that vertical space at the sides. Touhou is usually designed such that that's unnecessary and/or you'll fucking die if you do it but it's good to understand the technique.

>>6470686
I keep hearing about a lot of people having trouble with icicle fall. What is so hard about it?

>>6470977
Cris-crossing bullets.

Not pressing the bomb button right when i die.

>>6470977

They saw Cirno's Perfect Math Class and ragequit after getting a face full of danmaku on normal.

I just started playing, starting with UFO, and the thing I'm probably having the biggest trouble with besides the obvious horrible dying, is not using my bombs to avoid losing a life.

Just having trouble getting the timing down.

>>6470977
When I was new, the sides moved in a weird diagonal way that was hard to go through.

Getting anxious and trying to bomb every single thing that seems threatening. And then when you actually get to a part where you need that bomb, you don't have it.

>>6471045

If you use bombs, you're a scrub.

>>6471030
>starting with UFO

>>6471048
If you can't beat the game on Lunatic without losing a life and bombing on your first try, you're a scrub.

Playing these games at all, knowing I just suck at vidja in general. Pic related.

>>6470622

Why do I do all these things even though I know better?

>>6471050
As long as someone isn't horribly put off by the UFO system it's fine to start with. It's one of the easier ones to bomb your way through to victory.

>>6471070

>bombing your way through

lol

Why would you start with ufo.

>>6471063
Dying instead of bombing can't be helped if you don't realize you are going to die. Don't be hard on yourself, everyone here sucks at video games except for White Ren.

>>6471080

>Don't be hard on yourself, everyone here sucks at video games

excuse me
you should see my gamercard on Call of Duty: Black Ops

it'll shock your eyelids

>>6471083
Sorry, I meant everyone here except you.

>>6471030 here

It was just a friend's suggestion to start with UFO. Not sure what the big deal is.

>>6471098
There isn't any big deal.