/jp/ - Otaku Culture

http://jisho.org/kanji/radicals/
With this you can look up by radical.

Is the manga digital?
If so, care to share?

At times like this I always think of that one anon who said he got trolled by his japanese teacher, and now speaks japanese like a twelve year old girl.

>>6443955
I bought paper copy, I am sorry.
Thanks for the link, shit is awesome.

Any insight on my seeking?

I very much recommend reading Yotsuba for learning japanese. However, reading it by itself obviously is not the greatest idea. Reading it in conjunction with learning from another source is a very good method to learn things; and as it's an everyday-normal-life sort of manga with a 4-year old as the main character, it's definitely a great tool for anyone to use.

>>6443955
Just google it, there should be quite a few torrents.

>>6443954
Please explain.

>>6443981
Yeah, I am also playing My weeaboo coach on DS sometimes, during my papers/learning breaks­. Should I, when I absolutely can't fucking figure what is written, look at a translated digital version? I never read that much manga, I am more into anime/VN, so sometimes I have problem with them just doing sounds and shit like that.

i have trouble with yotsuba because they often use hiragana for words that should be kanji which make me think its a grammar point which confuses me even more

also, some of the things she says are wrong, in context or a word she messes up.

>learning Japanese

Learn the basics in a class or by yourself -> Find japanese people -> immersion -> fight through the crushing language barrier -> you can now speak japanese.

>>6444019
It's impossible via class. And anyway, I am too busy to take that seriously.

I don't want to ''speak'' japanese, I want to read it. I get your point however, thanks for the guideline. I wonder if there's japanese people online that wants help with French... is there good ''language'' exchange website online? I once saw one, but you needed to pay to send emails or to see they real email address, that was retarded.

Why does Japanese have to be, literally, the hardest foreign language for native English speakers to learn?

>>6444045
I'm French, I don't know where I would belong on the ''learning curve'' between language. I wonder...

>>6444045
the greater the challenge, the greater the reward

>>6444045
JiggaWHAT?

It's the easiest one out of the few I tried, the curve is just steeper at the beginning.

>>6444045
Japanese is far from the hardest language for an English speaker to learn.

OP, I'm also using Yotsuba to help me learn. If what you listed in those parentheses are all you know so far, though, I don't think it's a good idea; study grammar formally first, at the least.

>>6443995
I noticed that the weeaboo coach fucks up some kanji stroke orders.
For example of horse, uma, doing stroke 1 and 6 in a single stroke. Perhaps some Japanese do this to speed things up, but it's not the "correct" version.

>>6444061
>>6444064
Technically its "one of" the hardest. not only is it a Cat IV language, but its not related to English whatsoever.

>>6443943

With this dictionary, you can search for complete words, or words that start or end with a set of specific syllabaries. There are also sample sentences for use with each word.

http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/je/

>>6443943

With this dictionary, you can search for complete words, or words that start or end with a set of specific syllabaries. There are also sample sentences for use with each word.

http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/je/

>>6444076
Hmm. What would be a good starting point then?

>>6444078
I'm not even up to the kanji yet. I mostly used it for Hiragana/Katakana drawings.

>>>/lang/

>>6444084
The Foreign Service Institute (FSI) of the US Department of State has compiled approximate learning expectations for a number of languages. Of the 63 languages analyzed, the five most difficult languages to reach proficiency in speaking and proficiency in reading (for native English speakers who already know other languages), requiring 88 weeks, are "Arabic, Cantonese, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean". The Foreign Service Institute considers Japanese to be the most difficult of this group.[3]

I'm learning Pashto, and it's no where near as difficult as Japanese.

Manga is pretty good, especially if it's with furigana so you can look up words faster. But don't try to translate, try to understand instead. Of course, you will still have to look up the words in a dictionary but don't try to map from one to the other too much.

Knowing the kanji (a la kanjidicks) beforehand is a great help, even if all you want is read stuff. Words will stick better, you won't confuse kanji as much and Japanese will just look more accessible overall.

>>6444103
All right.
>>6444099
I wonder if there's such thing for French native speakers.

>>6444052
Well, French is a Romance language, so an English speaker would have have an easier time learning it than, say, Norweigan. Still, the French language is very heavy on vowel sounds in comparison to other, more "conventional" Romance languages, such as Spanish or Italian.

Also, the French language tends to have silent consonants at the end of words. What the hell is up with that?

All and all, I'd think French would be right in the middle of the difficulty curve. Maybe it's more on the easy side, since learning to talk dirty to your girlfriend in French provides a lot of incentive for students.

>>6444124
Haha, I can see that happening. But what I meant to say is if French native have it easier to learn Japanese or is it English native people.

One Piece and Natsume Yuujinchou have furigana with the kanji. Anyone know of other manga with furigana?

>>6444124
>learning to talk dirty to your girlfriend in French provides a lot of incentive
I mean this is a general sense. I realize this doesn't apply so much to us at 4chan.

>>6444141
Doesn't most of what is in WSJ have?
I recon seeing Negima with them.

>>6444134
french is no more related to Japanese than English so I can't imagine it mattering, however you are bilingual so that should help.

>>6444099
Undefined variable PROFICIENCY detected.

Bureaucratic lingo in Japanese is beyond conversational levels and a fair (albeit skewed, granted) comparison would be talking tax-code with a corporate accountant head.

Not that you don't have a point, but it misrepresents the situation somewhat, I feel.

>>6444141
Tons. Basically all Jump comics are that way, as are a good chunk of other shounen shows aimed at the younger side of the spectrum.

>>6444158
The standards are the same for all languages. The proficiency test in Pashto involves being able to debate complex political ideologies, when a large majority of Pashtuns can't even read, let alone discuss much beyond daily routine. Its not that hard to learn the basics of any language, but actually trying to memorize Kanji... fuck.

Is my weeaboo coach a good way to get really started? I mean, as soon as It'll get Kanji heavy, I'll put that down and actually use Kanjidicks. But for the beginning, is it a good idea?