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ちょいと上げるよ

i suspect very little or no one is taking the test

i would be but i am not comfortable that i am completely prepared in grammar yet

what exactly are you going to use this for?

>>6426352

Same thing with a PC bullshit name.

>>6426376
>what exactly are you going to use this for?

Nothing really. I already passed N1 several years ago, I just heard it might be harder now and thought I'd take it to see where I stand. It'd be cool if I could help some of you cheat though.

>>6426393
that seems like a shame.

do you find no use for it or are you simply already employed/uninterested?

>>6426404
I teach Japanese now (katekyo). It will also come in handy when I apply for a monbushou scholarship in a few years.

I'm taking N1 this December, too. Haven't looked at the scheduling information yet.

Taking the N1 while I'm in Japan on study abroad. I haven't heard anything yet, though, starting to get a bit nervous. Hopefully the details come within the week, or else I fucked up the information somehow.

>>6426475
Taken any practice tests?

>>6426441
the info should be on your Test Voucher (受験票)

I got my voucher immediately after I applied, I'm not sure how it works wherever you are.

上げます

Might take jlpt4 for shits and giggles sometime next year, but eh. Don't know, it's not like it's worth anything, and I'm sure I don't qualify for 3 or better yet.

there are five levels now, huh?

>>6427236
if I remember correctly, N5 = 4, N4 = 3, N3 = between 3 and 2 since the difficulty curve was really steep between these two, N2 = a bit more than 2, N1 = a bit more than 1

people actually take N1 ? i heard that shit is hard

i'm taking N5

This might be off-topic, but since this seems to be a thread for high-level Japanese peoples, what's the "right" way to romanize づ? Is it "du", "zu", or "dzu"? I'm thinking it's "zu", but wouldn't that get confused with ず?

>>6427261
I'd go with "dzu"
Think "Hadzuki" or so. That's the kind of sound you want.
Not Hatsuki or Hazuki.

>>6427261
they're all correct, but I usually go with "zu"

>>6427261
depends which romanization system you use.
Hepburn (most used in the west) = zu
Kunrei (most used by the Monbushou and japanese themselves, especially older people) = du

>>6427273 Wapuro (most used by the japanese themselves) = du

Who the hell came up with zu for づ? That's just fucking confusing.
Then again, don't use romaji either way.

>>6427307
Maybe because that's its sound.

>>6427348
But it's not.

>>6427348
"dzu" is actually how it sounds.

Dunno. I didn't have any plans to take a JLPT test soon. Was talking to a friend from Nico today and he said I probably should just to see how far along I am.

だが、そりゃ必要はないだろ？

>>6427499
さっさと死ね。

>>6427530
お前こそ...

>>6427499

そりゃ必要はないだろ? isn't that は unnecessary?
think you meant:
そりゃ必要ないだろ？ or am i wrong? just wondering.

>>6427574
considering sorya is a contraction of sore wa...
"sore wa hitsuyou wa nai"
also, da ga is too intense for that sentence

not that I care, everyone makes mistakes

Taking N1. I don't see why anyone would say it's hard. If you know the damn language, all the questions on the site's practice exam are easy, and it's a 60% pass mark. The only reason I could see for people failing it is because they overestimate their own ability.

>>6427658
is n1 the hardest? how do these tests work?

>>6427589
I-I-It's not like i wanted to help you, you dummy..
Cute.

Are the JLPT kanji only? Or is it grammar too?

>>6427681
There are more questions about grammar and usage than plain out asking for readings.

>>6427658
>If you know the damn language
well, duh

>>6427681
JLPT is everything minus raw sentence creation. Listening, Kanji, fill-in-the-blank with the right choice, etc

>>6427658

Beware though, because I personally didn't think the example questions to be all that representative for the actual thing. Better to check some previous exams.

Probably the hardest type of questions you get on N1 is stuff like:

遭... A: 隅 B: 寓 C: 遇 D: 偶

This can trip you up bad if you never bothered learning how to write kanji, or to learn them by radical. The bulk of the questions are still pretty easy though. I'm taking N1 as well, and honestly the only thing I'm really worried about is not having enough time to finish reading all of the texts.

>>6427740

so what is that question asking? complete the compound word?

>>6427765

It's asking for which そうぐう, yes.

I just checked out the example questions.
This is it? This is what you fags always make a such a fuss about? This is what you tell me someone needs to study 5 fucking years for? I only started studying 日本語 last year and don't even take it all that seriously, and it's all piss-easy for me, even Levels 1 and 2. The only pitfalls are that the questions ask for the typical language-textbook bullshit that doesn't have much to do with how people actually speak, and also that the texts/questions use very few 漢字, which sucks when you focus your active studies mostly on learning those.
It's funny though, the retards who care about this test seem to be just as terrible at Japanese as the Japs whose only goal in studying English is to higher their TOEIC score.

>>6427822
I started last month, why so slow bro?

N1, at like 2pm GMT or something.

>>6427822
cool story bro

I suspect they try to dumb down the difficulty of the practice tests a little bit, seeing as how they make money off of the tests. I'd really like to take an actual test given in the past.

So, I'll google it myself as well, but just in case someone knows of a good source I don't find, does anyone know of a good place to get actual samples of previous tests? I know the N1 has never been given before this year and is harder than the 1-kyuu, but I'm sure the 1-kyuu would not be a terrible diagnostic nonetheless.

>>6427822
You're right, most of the questions are pretty straightforward and anyone who dedicates themselves for 12-18 months should be at JLPT1 standard. People who make out the "number of JLPT kanji" to be a challenge baffle me.

That said, I'm too lazy to read long passages of Japanese much as part of my day to day routine, so I'm worried the time limit will trip me up on the comprehension parts.

>>6427822
this somehow reminded me of an old thread...

>>6428645
>>6427825
you know that's a troll, right...?

ignore him.

>>6428678
It is?

I've been learning for about 18 months and I'm taking the JLPT1 next month, so I thought it might be serious...

>>6428688
i'm not going to waste time explaining, but to keep it short, his only purpose seems to be to taunt and incite negativity in an otherwise civil thread, so yes.

congratulations if you pass the test with only 18 months of study, by the way. many native speakers can't pass it and some people have to try for years.

>>6427740
C!

Roughly 8 months study time here. Between 2 and 3 level. Just a vocab grind at this point. Shit sucks.

>>6428688
have fun wasting your time and money.
wanted to take N2 this year as it seems to be much harder than the old 2, but i wasn't able to send in all the papers in time. don't know if i will ever try N1 as i know only one person who passed the old 1 and he had already lived in Japan before he took the test.

Sample question from N1
(All in Japanese)
Woman 1: How is your project coming along?
Woman 2: Just terrible. I can't accelerate my tachyon particles any faster than 17 on the Cochran Scale.
Woman 3: Have you remembered to apply the quantum bias?
Woman 2: Ah, I totally forgot! That also explains why my neutrinos were all out of wack.
Woman 4: Good evening ladies.
Woman 1: Oh, hello Junko! How are you today?
Woman 4: Doing okay. I finally won the Nobel Price for my work in molecular bioengineering, but I'd only just gotten the grant when all of my bio-peptides fell apart! How embarrassing!
Woman 2: I know exactly how you feel. I can't tell you how many times my bio-peptides have failed me during a crucial moment.
Question: Which one of these women is pregnant?

>>6428880

私
From reading that crap

Are there any online practice tests? I want to see how much I've learned in three months.

>>6428880
What?

>>6428898
>>6428949
>doesn't know Gaijin smash

Good grief anon. It's going on three in the morning.

>>6427355
>anyone who dedicates themselves for 12-18 months should be at JLPT1 standard

Yes, if you drop everything else, including all kinds of socializing and work.

>>6428645
>anyone who dedicates themselves for 12-18 months should be at JLPT1 standard

Yes, if you drop everything else, including all kinds of socializing and work.

>>6429231
What the fuck are you doing on /jp/ if you socialize and work?

Okay, working might be understandable, not all of us have the luxury of leeching off our parents.

Should change it to:
"Yeah, if you wanna stop being a lazy prick and drop your backlog for a few months."

>>6429231
I find that gif awesome

>>6429257
>if you socialize

I counted forums, imageboards and textboards as part of socializing. Meaning, if you're reading this, you're not the kind of person that can pass N1 in 18 months.

>>6429257
>Yeah, if you wanna stop being a lazy prick and drop your backlog for a few months.

No sane person who has taken JLPT1 would believe that.

>>6429231
not to be rude as you didn't start this line of discussion, i think it's best if we avoid arbitrary, pointless, and factless debates about whether a human can or can't do something. this is exactly what that discussion is leading to, by the way. "i can" or "you can't" are two of the most easily usable trolling lines in existence, for a number of reasons.

to those of you looking at taking the test and taking practice tests, keep in mind that it's not just a matter of whether you get the answers right or not but how fast you can complete them. even if you get every answer right on those tests, if you take too long to answer them it's meaningless on the actual test.

i would argue that getting to a level of quick reading and comprehension is what takes the most time when learning a new language, not actually understanding what's written based on studying vocab+grammar.

polite sage

>>6429231
not to be rude as you didn't start this line of discussion, but i think it's best if we avoid arbitrary, pointless, and factless debates about whether a human can or can't do something. this is exactly what that discussion is leading to, by the way. "i can" or "you can't" are two of the most easily usable trolling lines in existence, for a number of reasons.

to those of you looking at taking the test and taking practice tests, keep in mind that it's not just a matter of whether you get the answers right or not but how fast you can complete them. even if you get every answer right on those tests, if you take too long to answer them it's meaningless on the actual test.

i would argue that getting to a level of quick reading and comprehension is what takes the most time when learning a new language, not actually understanding what's written based on studying vocab+grammar.

polite sage

The reason why azns are less ashamed of their waifu collections than in the west is because parents like it when their son shows an interest in girls-having a son with 200 pictures of hatsune miku his bedroom, to the parents, just means he's got women on his mind and will likely end up producing grandchildren once his life reaches that point lol where he starts socializing with women openly and dating

>>6429305
Err, what?

>>6429305
This is actually because the parents recognize that Hatsune Miku will be the goddess of the new world.

>>6429305
Little do they know about their son's contempt for 3D pigs.

age

>>6431045
busu ha sine