/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I don't get it, what's so terrible about having a job?

brb, quitting /jp/

I'm putting all my bets on winning the lotto or suicide if that doesn't work out

>>6296961
1. Less time for my backlog to be tackled
2. Social interaction
3. I'm a lazy fuck
4. The very thought of going into a job interview is terrifying to me. I hate talking about myself, I'm too awkward when talking to anyone, so I know it'd be pointless because I'm not getting a job unless it doesn't require an interview, or they just need me for manual labor or something (See: shitty jobs with low pay with lots of effort needed)

>I might try to get diagnosed for social anxiety and leech off the government instead
That's what I'm doing. You'll need to have been treated for it before and they'll make you see a psychiatrist.

24 here. Graduating uni in 2 months, loan collectors already at my throat. Think about my future all the time and it fills me with constant dread, the end is nigh.

>>6296967
> You played 1040 games of Mega Millions. It cost $1040. You won $105.

http://www.cockeyed.com/citizen/poker/lottery_simulator100.php

Play twice a week for ten years. You will win shit. So don't put much hopes behind a lotto win

I really don't know, this is my last year of high school and I have no idea what I'm going to study at University or if I'm even going to study at at all.
Or I might just make a portal to Gensokyo, fuck if I know.

>You'll need to have been treated for it before and they'll make you see a psychiatrist.

How do I go about doing this? Arranging an appointment with my doctor or something? I had an appointment like 2 months ago as an annual thing, and wanted to ask for a diagnosis so I could hurry up and get officially labeled as a socially inept rock, but I couldn't bring myself to ask BECAUSE of my social anxiety (fucking paradox).

And if it required another appointment, dunno how the hell I'd bring it up with my mother, since I'm still under her insurance until I'm 26, and doubt they'll cover another visit to the doctor when I'm not due for one until next year.

>>6296984
I understand your anguish, horror, fear and anxiety, brother.

>>6296989
Depends. What country do you live in?

>>6296989
http://www.ssa.gov/applyfordisability/?h Start there. If you've never been treated for depression or anxiety before (I had been before I applied) then it might be harder to get approved. The whole process of me applying, filling out the paperwork etc.and seeing one of their psychiatrists and getting approved took about six months.

What about online courses and then work from home?

>>6296994
US.

>>6297002
Thanks, I'll look into it.

I actually think about my future a lot. Will be graduating with a BA in Psychology soon, then it's off to Law School.

I've planned this because I don't want to leech off my parents for the rest of my life. They're great parents, don't get me wrong, but their future goals are simply not compatible with mine. I don't want to live where they want to live, and it's time I finish my education, get a job and get my own place. Preferably in another country.

>>6296986
christ man

now what hope do I have left now?

Well I am a getting my Computer Engineer degree.

But I'm gonna take the CCNA Cisco certificate this year, then the CCNP. Guess some Linux/Windows Server certificates too.

And hopefully after that I'll get a nice job as some system admin or network guy somewhere so I can take it easy and have a lot of free time and money. To pursue my Anime/Games related hobbies.

>>6297002

>have worked and paid Social Security taxes long enough to qualify

How does this make any sense if you're applying because of social anxiety or depression?

>>6297002
>have worked and paid Social Security taxes long enough to qualify;

But I've never worked ;_;

>>6297035
>>6297037
I'm 25 and have never worked, either.

>>6297027
I'm 21.

Also this is the 3rd time I'm going to the first two semesters of my uni. So for the 3rd year in a row I'm first class. Well I didn't literally do shit in the first two years plus I only had to pay like 1000€ a year since I got good entrance exam grades.

>During the last 14 months, have you been unable to work because of illnesses, injuries or conditions that have lasted or are expected to last at least 12 months or can be expected to result in death? More Info

Um...Yes? I don't want to say yes if I haven't attempted, but I haven't attempted because of my fear.

>>6297050
Just say you have. They're not going to ask where you applied or anything.

I plan to become an engineer. Sounds moderately rewarding and interesting, while still giving enough money to help me build a comfy safe haven to hide away from the normals in.

Just need to decide whether to get into computer or electronic.

>>6297077
Do Petroleum Engineering. Highest average entry-level salary in the US.

>>6297089
Better off going for something a bit more broad like say chemical and then interning and working as a petroleum engineer I'd say.

I'm studying, I don't give a fuck though, I do it just because I have to, I don't know how the fuck I ended doing it... serves me right for not being able of taking my own decisions.

anyway, I will kill my self eventually, maybe next year when I will have access to the laboratory.

>>6297089
Doesn't sound as interesting, though. I'm willing to sacrifice a few thousands a year to have a job that I won't dread going to.

I'm probably going to drop out of school after this semester is over. I made the huge mistake of going there without knowing what I want to do and it has only lead to depression and anxiety.

I was going to go into business, since that's a nice generic major that can get me different kinds of jobs, but someone told me I should be an X-ray technician. Apparently it's easy to do, the training is quick, the pay is good, and technicians are usually in demand.

My future is already planned out: graduate from telecommunications engineering, ask for a scholarship to France and leave Mexico, study a master's and a doctorate in digital electronics or telecommunications or something like that, and spend time working there as a scientist until I can get a First World citizenship. Then I might return to Mexico as a professor at my university.

It's all going to be really cool man ^^

>>6297179
You will never be able to escape from being a Mexican, though

>>6297063
And fake the date? Is that what you did? Asking a lot only because I'm unsure. I don't wanna fill this out and they say "no" because I answered something incorrectly just because its worded in a way that makes me think of it as a trick question. If this was about my arm being amputated or something, it'd be easier, but since it's just about me being too scared to enter any field, I dunno. I'm still fairly young, and my parents haven't forced me to work yet. I mean, I can wait until they do, but once they do the chances are they'll really force me until I get to a place that seriously doesn't care who they hire. By that point I feel my chances will be blown since I'd have shown that I can work (even if I'll have a freaking hard time).

But maybe I'm over thinking and can just say that I never went to an interview because I was so scared, so it prevented me from even attempting, which in turn prevents me from working.

Iunno, I always over think shit like this, probably contributes to my anxiety because I don't wanna seem like a liar when I'm telling the truth, but I'm so awkward that it seems like I'm lying when I'm not.

>>6297215
If you're from the UK, just say you applied to shit tons of jobs online and never even got a single reply. It is definitely plausible. In fact I would be surprised if you even got a call back.

I did this and was overqualified for every single one of them. Not a single hit. What I did get was some ambiguous calls from various recruiters who harvested my contact info from my CV for some reason or other.

>>6297063
Can that pass in the US as an excuse? I think I'd want Sudo to answer though since he's done this before. I know, he could be lying, but meh.

>>6297179
Don't fucking come here, we got enough trouble already.

>>6297077
Computer and Electronic engineering courses are essentially the same for the first two years in some places.

I have a job interview with UBS Japan on Friday.

I'm so terrified, having such a once in a lifetime opportunity. ;_;

>>6297215
You don't have to fake anything. They never asked me for locations or jobs I applied for. I had been to a couple different doctors and therapists for my depression and anxiety, which helped with the approval.
>>6297275
I'm on SSI for depression and social anxiety. I don't have anything physically wrong with me other than hypothyroidism, but that's not a disability since I just have to take a pill for it. I assure you, I'm not lying. I've talked about this with other people in similar threads before. I know there are other anons who get benefits for the same thing, too.

I graduate this semester and I'm scared as fuck as to what I'm going to do.

>>6297104
>feelsbadman.jpg
stick around a bit longer and you may witness an economic meltdown

>>6297337
This is the route I've been meaning to take for some time. Is it better if I bring up that I'm going to get kicked out and I don't know what to do/can't get a job/don't get any calls back on the first visit or will I need to wait until I have a few done with first?

>>6297380
It wouldn't hurt. If you're really suffering from anxiety, tell them how horrible you feel when you think about applying for a job,r or having to deal with people in a social situation. Having difficulty leaving the house is a plus.

>>6296989
>and wanted to ask for a diagnosis so I could hurry up and get officially labeled as a socially inept rock, but I couldn't bring myself to ask BECAUSE of my social anxiety (fucking paradox).

this is my problem ;_;

>>6297402
I've been meaning to do this for years, just can't work up the courage to go. And I haven't had the money to but apparently I'll be covered under my dad's new insurance soon so I have to take the chance. Was just a little unsure if telling them I'm going to need assistance on my first visit would hurt or help me.

Thanks for the info though.

I have all the wealth of the ancient world in my vaults. I don't need to worry about anything.

>>6297417
No problem. They'll pay for the psychiatrist's visit, anyway.

>>6297424
Really? How would I go about doing that? Talking to a financial councilor or something? Is it something I have to tell them first, because all the other visits I've had made it seem like they want money before they'll even see you.

I do have social anxiety, that's clear.
And I have dropped out of college several times due to low attendance, because of the above.

But I am determined to somehow finish my studies, I won't accept to have come as far as I have done only to rot in my room.

I already have spent a nice time of 8 years living more or less the typical /jp/ life, though I have always leaned towards that life style even before. And yes, during some of those 8 years I did "attend" school and such, and thus I wasn't really a neet for some of those years.
But apparently grades and so on aren't enough. I don't know if the schools in my country have some kind of shit po9licy or not, but if your attendance isn't great enough, you automatically flunk, even if you have perfect grades. Bullshit I tell you.

It has been years again since I last tried to give my education another go, but I feel like I have to some time.
The typical "neet" life is far from glorious, and in fact it only grows to become worse and worse as time flies by.
Eventually you will more or less run out of entertainment you enjoy, and then you will move on to entertainment that isn't really your thing, but you do it anyway because you have somewhat stopped caring and at least it is something you haven't checked out before. And don't give me the crap about how there will be "infinite" stuff to go through if you just learn Japanese or soemthing, because you will run out of things to enjoy anyway. The majority of everything is crap, this applies to Japanese media as well.

>>6297437
But perhaps more importantly is how to support oneself, economically and all that. Welfare is overrated, or perhaps that's just where I am. But the money is ok to go by, but it's far from great, and while you can get money over for some things, it doesn't exactly deliver the greatest freedom. And this I really don't know if they do in other places, but I was told by my psychiatrist that if I was not to show any further progress within two years (from then), then the vast majority of the funds were to be cut off and I were only to get enough to qualify the "minimal life standard", a standard that is no real life. I had wanted to try even without them pulling that bullshit, so I guess that had little to do with it, but I solved it by giving my third try at college a try. Anyway, if I continue to live showing no progress towards anything they apparently don't want to support a "richer" lifestyle or something as I don't improve anyway.

And yes, I want to finish my studies, I always did great at those, so of course I want to finish things, and eventually I will be able to do my own work on my terms, and that will really be a great step forward.
I am sick of doing the same things over and over again, I have a hard time to believe that anyone who have lived a pure NEET life for over 5 years really can wholeheartidly say they enjoy such a life, and really mean it.
But perhaps that's just me, I guess I have grown bitter during these years. But I will change this, I won't be stuck like this forever.

>>6297442
>>6297437
;_;
You didn't take it easy, did you?

>>6297438
Social Security will pay for your evaluation as part of the process. I have Medicaid now, which I also got from the government, but they won't charge you to see the doctor as part of the whole process.

>>6297456
Wow ok, thanks man. If that's the case I might be able to pull through this. You were a real help thanks.

I don't think about the future, I have no future so it's best to just take it easy while I can. Plus I bet in a few years I'll have completely lost my grasp on reality and could get on disability.

>>6297470
Sorry to disappoint you.

Sanity is a tenacious thing.

I'm already on disability. And since I'm not really getting better at any rate, it looks like I'll be able to live like this for quite a while.

And now that I know the inner workings of the system, it'd be easy for me to fake being cured for the most part and keep living the good life awhile longer. I know eventually (like in 10 years) I will have to do some shitass job, but that's so far away, by that time I will really have gotten better.

(I have actually worked in the past.)

I got the "get your shit together or fuck off" ultimatum from my father last week, so I've started looking for a job. I'm eventually gonna get back to school too I think.

I'm a narcoleptic though, so I'm treated like I was handicapped. It took me almost a year to get my drivers license from all of the paperwork and waiting from the DMV

>>6297488
Shit on the floor before you leave.
Your dad is a dick.

>>6297488
They want you to work, even though you're handicapped? Country?

>>6296986
>four balls correct, last ball was 43 instead of my 42
BRB, lotto tickets.

How are you supposed to account for your NEET years on a CV? It seems pretty hopeless to find a job unless I find some way to explain them away.

>>6297500
This and having no job experience at all is what I'm dreading.

>>6297500
You were self employed then and ran a free [whatever field you plan on entering] service in your home.

ITT: Lazy, antisocial fuckers pretend they're disabled.

You're worse than those teenagers who self diagnose themselves with depression.

>>6297500

Just leave them out. Nobody's going to ask.

Don't get me wrong, but nobody's interested enough in you to care looking up your embarassing secrets. The whole point of a CV is to catch someone's interest - if it's not there, they likely won't bother looking for it.

>>6297478
My years of being a shut-in has already taken quite a toll on my mental health.

>>6297500
Say your uncle, friend, or fuckbuddy ran a floor cleaning service out of his house or something. And you've been working there forever.(under the table) It wasn't much but it payed the bills while you studied at home for whatever. List the number for this guy as your home number and give them your cell as yours, or vice versa.

>>6297511
But I'm not self-diagnosed and the even government believes I'm disabled and they the ones who have to pay for my food and internet access.

>>6297494
You expect his parents to excuse him for not being bothered to go to school or find a job because he has a medical condition?

>>6297500
Keep studying until you get some title no one can say no to.
With a PHD I doubt someone will turn you down just because you have been completely inactive for X amounts of years.
Otherwise I don't know, having missed out like that doesn't sound good. So my tip to you is to get some kind of status where people can't question you as easily. Might be easier said than done but I am out of ideas otherwise.

>>6297488
USA, should have clarified. As bad as narcolepsy can be (fainting/paralyzed from out of no where) I'm just perpetually tired. I have meds for it but I wont be covered by my parent's insurance once I turn 24.

Of course anything government related, I get the "worst case scenario" treatment. I'm a liability because of it, I know, it's just a pain in the ass to deal with.

>>6297488
At least you have a drivers licence, I don't even have that.

>>6297442
>I have a hard time to believe that anyone who have lived a pure NEET life for over 5 years really can wholeheartedly say they enjoy such a life, and really mean it.
I do enjoy it even after all these years, I'm horrified by the fact that I have to start going to school again and I wish I could just stay a NEET for the rest of my life.

>>6297518
You're not fucking disabled, you're a system-manipulating leech.

>>6297511
The government, and my bank account say otherwise. Keep paying for my figures, though. I appreciate it.

>>6297515
I do this a lot as references, as I don't actually have anyone who'd do it for me.

>>6297526
I would have a job if it were not for this "100% based on job interviews/nepotism" system we have as I have a number of skills and am hard working, so what's wrong with manipulating an already corrupt system?

>>6297525
>I'm horrified by the fact that I have to start going to school again and I wish I could just stay a NEET for the rest of my life.
I am not entirely sure if this really is enjoying life.
It sounds like you are fooling yourself, closing your eyes and driving blindly forward, hoping that reality won't come and bite you in the back.
It also sounds like it will become worse for you, if you have fears for that sort of thing.

>>6297532
I'm sure he'd rather just take it easy all day rather than be another slave working a shit job he hates five days a week. I know I would.

My only problem with being NEET, is not being able to have my own place to live. I can't take it easy with my parents around all the time.

>>6297532
Masochists - they are the only ones who truly enjoy life. If you aren't plummeting towards a volcano in a motorbike while wearing no parachute, you aren't living life.

>>6297527
You are an inspiration to us all. If this works out I'll name my next government bought hard drive after you.

Finfag here.

Leeching off the government is easymodo here, been doing it for more than 3 years now.

No need for disabilities. If you're unemployed you get social welfare provision. If you don't show any effort at all to get yourself a job they might lower your welfare a bit but it's still enough for cheap food and internet and that's all I want.

>>6297442
Well I've only lived as pure NEET for a bit over 3 years but so far I can say that it's probably the only lifestyle I can enjoy. I can't understand why anyone wants to work or study if given the chance not to. Or I guess it's ambition or lust for money but I've always had absolutely none of either of those.

>>6297552
Do your best, Anonymous! I believe in you. The NEETs shall inherit the earth.

>>6297525
Serious advice for anyone who wants to get a license: get that shit before you go declaring any kind of medical condition or disability. Like a said, a whole year of waiting and phone interviews before I could get mine.

>>6297562
Wouldn't that be job, then? Inheriting the Earth is a lot of work.

>>6297511
>pretend they're disabled
You do realise social anxiety is an actual disability.

>>6297532
>I am not entirely sure if this really is enjoying life.
It is.
I don't have any stress any more, I don't have to talk to people, I can just do what I want all day long.
How is this not Heaven.

>>6297566
You know they get paid money from the government if you are under 18? That's the reason why it's impossible to get a driver instructor if you are an adult, it's not the disabilities.

>>6297570
>It is.
Well ok.
"Horrified" is a rather strong word though. It implied things.

>>6297569
The Earth will come to us.

>>6297573
I'm talking about dealing with the Department of Driver Safety, or whoever runs this shit. I got lucky and got a friend to teach me.

>>6297585
The earth will be there if we want it.

>>6297594
I know they are a government institution, but they still get money from (other) government institutions.

>>6297583
>"Horrified" is a rather strong word though.
Not in my case, I sometimes get panic attacks when I have to talk to strangers.