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>http://simchamber.net/index.php?/tracker/issue-1283-full-metal-daemon-muramasa-units/
Perfect for powerlevel.

Muramasa is my waifu

Any scan of one of the manga yet?
Best I could find was some chinese scan of Makai-hen

What about it is so good anyways?
From everything I heard about it, it seems like FSN with even more infodumps.
Not really exciting.

>>6264460
I'll be hiding this thread...

>>6264460
Then don't be excited about it, and leave the people who liked it alone. It's simple.

>>6264496
I just want to understand.
It's not like I can know if it's good or not without playing it first anyways.

I dunno, most of the fights are plot driven and even with a tsurugi's potential the biggest difference is the "master" and its knowledge of his/her own tsurugi.
I don't see much material for a powerlevel fight here.

>>6264460
The characters are unique, no tsundere crap or moe shit, just people and their story and how that story brought them to act in a certain way.
The reasons about Ichijou's justice, or Kanade's revenge for example, and how their desires warped the path they've walked.
As for the setting, it's not really that complex, as you said it's just a bunch of infodumps about the setting that sometimes come up in conversations.
The story it's just as entertaining as FSN, but less enjoynable because of its complexity so you might either love it or hate it.

Is there a cg set available out there for it?

>>6264581
http://exhentai.org/g/171879/bf0d3ea11f/

Obligatory hoping for more Blood Crux/a spinoff about European history, because crossbow-wielding, reality-bending contrabass poets and electromagnetic spider samurai are clearly not enough and we need mechanical hussars, dragoons, longbowmen and janissaries into the mix.

>>6264460
It's about a dude in a red armor with horns (that goes three times as fast as other armors) and his struggle to free humanity from the shackles of gravity (pictured: gravity. ) He obtains a (not-so-little) little brown girl in the process.

It's pretty different compared to FSN actually.
For one the narrative is very focused even though the setting is pretty big with lots of characters, there is hardly any lost time and it feel like everything serve the overall thematic.
Honestly among all the VNs I read, not even one approach the strength of the narrative of Muramasa.

The battles are also pretty different, to make it simple if FSN was like Kenshin Muramasa would be like Shigurui.
It feels more authentic and it really feels like the writer knows what he is writing about, but all the knowledge poured out could make it seem slower paced compared to the simpler "shonen"-like battles of FSN

And the game has a constant and surprising humorous to it which is very appreciable, it's really damn funny at times, even moreso than some comedic eroge.

Without a doubt my favorite VN.

>>6264734
But f/sn wasn't about the fights/battles, and the actual battles was filled with either non-battle stuff or they were over rather quick.
It's also almost a pathetically small part of f/sn if you compare text paragraphs/sizes.

I thought Muramasa was rather action packed, am I wrong? If you compare it to f/sn I believe I am.

>>6264734
>comedy
Oh god Kageaki is a natural troll, he's a master of embarassing others.
Plus the part where both Hikaru and Chachamaru fucks up with his dreams is priceless.

Ginseigou vs Gil
Muramasa with Kotetsu vs Saber
Masamune vs Berserker
Nabuse vs Assassin
William Burroughs vs Archer
Chachamaru vs Rider

Add more interesting fights.

>>6264713
>It's about a dude in a red armor with horns (that goes three times as fast as other armors) and his struggle to free humanity from the shackles of gravity (pictured: gravity. ) He obtains a (not-so-little) little brown girl in the process.
This sounds vaguely familiar somehow...

>>6264845
>Ginseigou vs Gil
Ginseigou.

>Muramasa with Kotetsu vs Saber
Excalibur > Gravity Beam Slash if that's the reason for this. But Magnetism push owns Saber big time.

>Masamune vs Berserker
Berserker wins. Masamune only has a few if any attacks that would probably be B+ Ranking.

>Nabuse vs Assassin
Assassin gets tired of watching of Shishiku's tomfoolery and does Tsubaeme Gaeshi.

>William Burroughs vs Archer
Have to say Burroughs. Though, not sure.

captcha: sinlinti William

>Chachamaru vs Rider
Chachamaru.

>>6264945
>Excalibur > Gravity Beam Slash if that's the reason for this. But Magnetism push owns Saber big time.
The last railgun cut a god in 2, how the fuck is excalibur stronger?
And Muramasa with Kotetsu is just much stronger and faster than Saber, he is basically super robot tier.

>>6264845
I posted my response before (save Burroughs vs. Archer), slanted towards Servant side a bit too much. Anyway, here's what I think would be fun.

Masamune vs. Lancelot. No fatal blows allowed, endurance match. They are to spar until one's Master/Midou faints.
Burroughs vs. Caster, mass murder contest. Each participant on a seperate open field. An infinite number of Anonymous appear on the sides of the fields, provided with the knowledge that should any of them successfully touch a participant, he gets to rape her. First side touched loses, provided they don't kill that specific Anonymous within a five-second limit. Kanae provided with infinite ammo, Caster with slowly regenerating mana supplies.
ORT vs. Konjin. No attacking allowed. Whomever crystallizes the other wins.
Bluebeard vs. Hikaru. Contest is a philosophical debate on whether absolute morality exists. The side that turns the other crazy (well, crazier than before) wins.
Assassin vs. Nabuse. Staring contest. First side to attack loses.
Cornelius Alba vs. Raicho. Fashion design contest, with themselves as the models.

>>6265004
I think Saber's max is at around the speed of sound, Muramasa at his best could keep up to Ginsengou who was going much faster than that using its special abilities.
Plus Saber must cast her excalibur by first revealing it and then calling the name, and Kageaki isn't a moron and would prevent her to do it, possibly under Muramasa's suggestion.
I think the only servants that can stand against powerful tsurugis, not only Muramasa, are the one with deus ex weapons such as Gae Bolg.

Hero on one side, demon on the other.
I want these

>>6265028
If I recall, Saber maximum is around Mach 14 (F/HA Saberdoken), but only with a Command Spell burst (if Muramasa is allowed Kotetsu, Saber should be allowed a Command Spell use, or perhaps Avalon. ) And Excalibur did cut that tentacle horror pretty nicely in Fate/Zero, so it doesn't exactly suck either.

>>6265019
What about Sorimachi vs Kotomine

>>6265004
Beam of light that can cut a city in two > Sword that cut a God in two.

>>6265119
Like I said deus ex machina weapons are the end of every one of these fights.
Because Muramasa mostly ends its fights with a single finishing blow after weakening its enemy having a tool which gives you a full protection from anything means Muramasa can never beat Saber unless she loses her guard or something.
And I fear Saber can store much more mana than Kageaki could every imagine to campare with calories, so he would end up losing in the long run as well.
As for Excalibur's blow, I think Kageaki can offset it with its attack, Magatsu or whatever its name was, by just cutting the blast in half using magnetism, but again we don't know if magical energy can be affected.
These universes simply are too different, FMD Muramasa tries to have some roots in modern science and theories, FSN is all out fantasy with magic and shit.

Wow, you type moon dudes can make even muramasa threads turn shit. I'm impressed.

So I heard the H-scenes are nothing but rape. How is it?

>>6265184

>>6265175
>don't know if magical energy can be affected.
It's a beam of light that was converted from Prana via Excalibur.

Is this a translated game?

>>6265203
Nope, and don't hope to see it ever translated.

>>6265221
It's rather well known game with so much material of it, there's a decent chance someone will pick this up.

>>6265285
The engine has to be hacked to work around vertical text, to decode text and recode it back into the game, then they have to deal with Nitroplus games being licensed here and the game is HUGE and I'm not talking about redundant text, and full of complex terms ranging from science to martial arts and politics.

>>6265221
>>6265285
Makoto has already translated a good portion of it already, but JAST,TLwiki, Official Localization, N+ etc.

>>6265119
Saber in that state is like an arrow, not very good against someone who can move freely in the sky.

And it's not even close to the level of speed Muramasa and Ginseigo showed at the end, they were going from the earth to the moon in seconds for fuck's sake.

>>6265175
Muramasa beats someone who could manipulate space & time freely, that's basically a stronger version of Avalon.
And Ginseigo had enough strength to destroy the moon, WITH ONE KICK.
Muramasa was exchanging blows equally with her.

They are both far more broken than anything in FSN.

Who care about shitty powerlevel, it isn't a FSN thread?

Let's focus on Muramasa's deliciousness.

>>6265152
Sorimachi vs. Gilgamesh. Both sides are provided with infinite clones of (human form) Muramasa and Ilya respectively. The side to execute the best fatality wins. Judges are Marquis de Sade, Delphine LaLaurie and Vlad the Impaler.

>>6265175
It probably can. Excalibur turns mana into photons, so Muramasa will have a field day.

>FMD Muramasa tries to have some roots in modern science and theories

I was intent on calculating physical implications of some of the more interesting attacks in Muramasa (railgun, black hole fairies etc. ) but that requires me to fully play the game, which I can't do for the next 3 months. Sucks.

Actually, a very, very rough calculation (assuming same soil type everywhere etc. ) shows that had the powered Ginseigou kicked Earth instead of the moon, she'd make a crater larger than Asia and would reach the outer core of the Earth. Imagine an Asia-sized inverse volcano, if you will. That's what would happen.

Yeah, gotta take that back. No way Saber's gonna go against Muramasa.

Best ending in the history of anything.

Is there a guide somewhere that will get help get me set up on playing this game, like how to set up whatever programs are required to dump the japanese text, translate it, and put it back in the game (is that how it works?).

>>6265450
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59189
Hope you enjoy your text being incomprehensible 97 times out of 100.

Best alt way is actually learning Japanese and using stuff like AGTH to check up on difficult/uncommon kanji. That's how many of us roll.

>>6265533
If you actually need tools like that then you aren't really experiencing in the light that you should, either as someone not only knowledgeable in Japanese, but also experienced, or the way you should when someone like it has translated it into a language you have mastered.

You might understand enough to enjoy the stories, but most likely not as good as you should have.

>>6265533
>Hope you enjoy your text being incomprehensible 97 times out of 100.

It's worth it because once in a while, you get gems like Rokuhara "gaining manure steadily until its legs no longer stand", or Umineko's famous "the elder sister is a clitoris".

I recommend reading games you've already played using AGTH+TA

>>6265565
who would have thought that umineko line would give the key to its solution.

>>6264867
It gets better. You see, the person Kageaki is fighting is nicknamed Ginseigou, or the Silver Star, and is repeatedly depicted as being akin to a comet (that, and a fairy. )

In one story path of the fandisc, Kageaki fucks up real bad and is forced to exterminate humanity as a price, more or less becoming a second Ginseigou. Except you know, his armor is red, not silver. So you could say he effectively becomes... the Red Comet.

>>6265565
Well, that woman was a cunt.

>>6265560
Well, yeah, that's a given.

>>6265442
Superior Chachamaru end is superior.

>>6265372
I, for one, do find Muramasa to be quite attractive, bordering on perfection.

>>6266492
Gotta agree with this, it's the only end where Kageaki is somehow satisfied, plus he can act outside of that balance bullshit and kill whoever the fuck he wants.

From a company man to the fucking devil in 5 easy steps.

>>6267490
He looks best in the Rokuhara armor.

And holy shit, I just noticed his hands are huge.

>>6267515
Loved that arc, and the way Chachamaru goes "NOT AS PLANNED" while being sodomized by Kageaki.

The best thing about Muramasa is how all the heroines are crazy psychopaths.

Expect to see it officially translated in, oh, two decades, maybe later.

>>6267539
I don't recall Ichijou being neither, just one hell of a blockhead.

>>6267556
I don't think anyone in right mind would pilot what essentially is a giant cockroach Vhailor who seems to have the idea that ripping out your innards and throwing them in your foe's general direction constitutes perfectly feasible attacks.

>>6267563
well...
you see...
uhhh...
...
Ok, you make a perfectly good point there, she is crazy.

>>6267359
Except that Chachamaru end goes against pretty much everything the game taught you up until then.

>>6267539
Muramasa is sane. And she's a red robotic spider armor, so that tells quite a lot about other heroines.

>>6267563
Do you mean that you wouldn't want to be Masamune's midou? Really?

But look at her eyes.

Or lack thereof.

She's so happy.

>>6267597
I know but after 2 routes of the game where pretty much everything wants Kageaki to be a tragic hero whose character is bent by Muramasa's law, one where he's true to himself and does the only thing he's ever wanted to do, protect his sister, feels good to see.
Maybe I just get too attached to main characters and I love to see them satisfied, but I still prefer Chachamaru's end as opposed to Muramasa's, if he has to be a boogieman he could as well be one while "sane" of mind instead as one broken man.

>>6267597
>Do you mean that you wouldn't want to be Masamune's midou? Really?

Of course I want to. In fact, I have a few more ideas for his tricks. Ctenodiscus mud stars are capable of drilling into solid ground with their anal protuberances, so maybe he can do the same with his pilot's intestines to modify Kappuku Touteki Choukan into a fully functional drill.

>>6267597
>Do you mean that you wouldn't want to be Masamune's midou? Really?

Of course not. In fact, I have a few more ideas for his tricks. Ctenodiscus mud stars are capable of drilling into solid ground with their anal protuberances, so maybe he can do the same with his pilot's intestines to modify Kappuku Touteki Choukan into a fully functional drill.

>>6267611
He never agrees to become her father in that end, though (BREAKFAST POWER-UP doesn't count). Which means that Hikaru's going to be quite a sad god after all the ruckus. I think that Muramasa's ending is much more satisfying for Hikaru, as Kageaki finally manages to show her the sheer amount of affection he has for her. Not to mention that it's a fucking awesome climax for the whole Zehiaku Sousatsu thing.

Still, it's a valid alternative ending which fits its role quite well. Doesn't stop it from being an alternative one, though.

>>6267643
Who cares, it's not like that thing is really Hikaru anyways, the true one is already dead and happy in the other world with her true father.

Muramasa's so awsome in diveX.

By the way are those SRT videos true or only some edits ?

>>6267683
Make a guess.
You will never have Nitroplus mechas in SRW ;_;

>>6267563
>I don't think anyone in right mind would pilot what essentially is a giant cockroach Vhailor who seems to have the idea that ripping out your innards and throwing them in your foe's general direction constitutes perfectly feasible attacks.
But, but YOU DON'T NEED THEM UNLESS YOU'RE EATING ANYWAYS

I have been thinking about reading Muramasa, but my moon runes are pretty weak still and I have heard that muramasas language is pretty hard. But I've been thinking what is that makes it's language hard to read? I know that it has walls of text but is that the only thing "hard" in it? if thats the case I think I can manage it, but if its just some crazy slang I dont think I can manage that.

Also those who would like Muramasa game should check DiveX out, as muramasa is fun unit to use in it and fight against, this initially was what kinda bumbed my interest in it anyway.

>>6267892
Ribs and intestines I can accept, but a wrist-mounted launcher that shoots exploding teratomas is where I draw the line.

Though there's an animal, the green bomber worm, that does more or less that.

>>6268227
>I know that it has walls of text but is that the only thing "hard" in it? if thats the case I think I can manage it, but if its just some crazy slang I dont think I can manage that.
It's not slang, it's archaic japanese. Uses plenty of expressions and verbal forms that you only find in old books, or characters in modern media that are made to speak very old japanese on purpose, or in "high literature".
That is not to say the whole game is like that, but it happens pretty often. Without, of course, mentioning all the made-up words and kendo-specific terminology.

>>6268238
Ok thanks, maybe I'll try how I can manage after the few other VNs that I'm thinking on reading next, if I cant read it yet maybe I postpone reading it or wait for Makotos translation of it.

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