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Why is Shiro such a whiney bitch, yet at the same time he has moments of such incredible badassery that it makes me want to HNNNNNNNNNNNGGG

Heaven's Feel wasn't as bad as you said it was /jp/

Nine Lives Blade Works

>> No.6244346

HF IS THE BEST ROUTE

BELIEVE IT

>> No.6244343
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6244343

>Why is Shiro such a whiney bitch, yet at the same time he has moments of such incredible badassery that it makes me want to HNNNNNNNNNNNGGG

>> No.6244359
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6244359

Because that's how Type-Moon tends to go down.

Mostly filled with dry, tiresome, repetitive exposition, with the occasional scene of THROUGH-THE-ROOF AWESOME that makes you keep reading.

It's hard to say if T-M as a whole is bad or good, except that Nasu is a terrible writer in either case.

>> No.6244372

This fight scene and the one with Kotomine are the only thing that makes sakura remotely tolerable

>> No.6244418

>>6244327
Better question, why is JESUS CHRIST HE KEEPS GETTING BACK UP

>> No.6244434
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>>6244418

This was established in the first route.

Avalon, the holy sheath, will keep its holder alive even from the worst of injuries. It doesn't have the ultimate regenerative qualities without Arturia nearby, but it still will drag the holder back from death (much like a Magic Crest).

>> No.6244457

>>6244372
Now, Anon that's incorrect. They along make the ROUTE tolerable, not Sakura. Sakura will never be tolerable.

>> No.6244471

>>6244434
Avalon only functions at the level of preventing death and rapid recovery when Shirou is in contract with Saber. Otherwise, its healing effect is greatly diminished.

>> No.6244485

>>6244471
Well, not necessarily in contract such as in UBW,unless the knight's oath type thing counts,

>> No.6244487

>>6244471

Diminished incredibly, but not absolutely removed.

As it saved him when he was a child, it can still bring a person on death's door back over, or at least extend their time to be healed.

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>>6244418
>>6244471

The other half of the answer is hinted at at least once in each of the routes.

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6244533

DAT FUCKING MUSIC

>> No.6244536

>>6244434
Dont get me wrong. I get the whole thing with Avalon. But Shiro has some kind of inhuman amount of pain tolerance. Everytime he gets hits, he just goes "Ah this is nothing, I jsut got to fight through it and KICK THIS GUYS ASS."

>> No.6244575

>>6244536
That's most likely due to Shirou's nearly non-existent sense of self. The nightly training he did for years also probably helped increase him tolerance to pain immensely.

>> No.6244586

>>6244487
>>6244471
Proximity to Saber also counts. Saber unknowingly
heals Irisviel after Maya's and Irisviel's fight with Kotomine. This is without a contract of course.

>> No.6244591

Where can I download F/SN?

I'm new to the whole VN thing and the UBW movie really made me want to play the VN.

>> No.6244597

He would be awesome if that was his own power, but he borrowed it.

That's cheating.

Shirou and Archer are not the same guy (you know what I mean)

>> No.6244598

>>6244586
That was when Saber got close enough to touch Irisviel though.

>> No.6244601

>>6244591

DDLs.
http://kureha.no-ip.org/k1/index.php?PHPSESSID=ldu1bdh8cbvofjmoar125vbsm2&topic=343.0
Torrent.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4915049/Fate_Stay_Night_Visual_novel___patches

>> No.6244602

>>6244591
Good job ruining the best route for yourself.
Regardless though, here:
http://kureha.no-ip.org/k1/index.php?topic=343.0

>> No.6244606

>>6244598
Saber being in the same room as her also made it easier for Irisviel to keep herself together as the war wore on and it kept Shirou from keeling over against Archer in UBW.

>> No.6244608

>>6244536
He doesn't think about himself. He puts others well-being and goals before himself.

>> No.6244609

>>6244601
>>6244602

Thanks broskis

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6244611

I wouldn't really call him a whiny bitch.

>> No.6245010

>>6244591
Just curious, the movie really made you want to read the VN more? You didn't think...the packing seemed crammed and the character actions questionable in the movie? It skips so many details that it seems geared towards fans who read the VN or at least watched the original anime. I was going to show this to friends but I didn't want to make them think FSN was just a flashy, confusing action series.

Did the philosophical conjectures abut idealism actually resonate for you in the movie?

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6245030

y such a big sword bro?
making up for something?

>> No.6245045

>>6244598
Archer in his fight with Shirou in UBW explicitly says that Avalon must be what's keeping him alive.

>> No.6245057

SPARKS LINER HIGH

>> No.6245062

>>6245057
BEST END OR BEST END?

>> No.6245066
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6245066

Sure is Shirou is here.

Shirou General?

>> No.6245074

>>6244533
Oh dear god that music. Gave me chills down my spine.

Emiya.mp3

DO WANT

>> No.6245116

>>6245010

I've already watched the anime and know a lot about the story based on what I've seen on 4chan and other places. I guess I'm just pretty bored right now and the movie seemed pretty cool so I thought I'd give the VN a try.

>> No.6245276

>>6245116
But did you get the sense that it was highly philosophical and more about proving certain ideals instead of just people fighting for the sake of winning fights, especially in the Shirou vs Archer fight? Granted, the movie made it look more awesome than it was supposed to be, and it's both good and bad (it was described as a particularly slow, dull fight where they were no longer even using their skills but sheer willpower just to keep moving, each in determination to prove their current beliefs, and Archer is so impressed by Shirou's determination to follow his ideals that he accepts his defeat) but I enjoyed the adaptation.

>> No.6247132

>>6245010
>it seems geared towards fans who read the VN
Well, maybe that's because it is!

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>>6244327
I don't usually fap to male characters, but when I do I fap to Shiro.

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6247156

UBW movie was better than I thought.

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6247159

>>6247148

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>>6247148
This makes me hard.

>> No.6247194

>>6247148
>>6247159
Would Caster molest a Female Shirou instead of Saber?

>> No.6247203

The reason for that OP is because people here don't usually consider action to be a quality in itself.

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6247240

Best scene in UBW

>> No.6247255

>>6247156
Yeah I'm glad they focused on the important awesome parts and very little cooking. And that they put some memorable CG moments in.

But I feel like he was too conscious during the fight with archer.

>> No.6247283

>>6247240
Most erotic scene in UBW

>> No.6247285

>>6247156

OP here.

What's this UBW movie you guys keep referring to?
What am I missing?

>> No.6247305

>>6247285
It's exactly as it sounds... there was a movie made for UBW that came out on blueray finally recently.

Unlimited Translation Works subbed it.

>> No.6247316

>>6247305
Really......?

Any good? Length? Somewhere i can get it?

>> No.6247323

And UBW OVA is shit. I've expected something great, not only battle scenes. Don't watch it if you read VN,

>> No.6247342

>>6247316
It's good and worth watching. Look it up at tokyotosho.

>> No.6247375

>>6247323
I've read the VN and was disappointed with everything except for UBW.
Tell me, what's so wrong with the OVA?

>> No.6247386

>>6247375
He's just a bitter fuck. It was good. Watch it.

>> No.6247410

>>6247386
I think I will. I've completed the VN and watched the anime so I might as well. I dont really mind a bunch of fight scenes since I know the whole story behind them anyway.

>> No.6247421

How is he holding that rock with no fingers?

>> No.6247427

>>6247421
He's clenching it with his fingers because it's to big for.......CANNOT UNSEE

>> No.6247430 [DELETED] 

>>6247421
Magic

>> No.6247437

>>6247323
>>6247375
I would say the opposite. If you are a fan of UBW, the route in the VN, then you might like it.

As a standalone however it is complete and utter rubish, and knowledge of the source material is required knowledge.

But it's not really that great even if you have read it.
The pacing is ridiculous.
The prologue up to the point where UBW branches of is covered in less than 5 minutes, and the pacing continues to be somewhat like that.

It really is kind of like reading the LotR trilogy, only that you skip The Fellowship, and jump directly to The Two Towers, and then you skip 5-10 pages for every one you read.

Other than some animated action, don't expect anything from the movie at all.
There is little to no real connection between the scenes at all and all of the character developement is put to the side or simply fallen out of the picture.
If you have read the thing, you might be able to fill in the gaps some if you have good memory, but it really isn't that great.

On the plus side, DEEN did for once portray a Berserker that was actually capable of doing things.
Both strong and fast/agile. The kind of Berserker that gives off some kind of superiority.
But then he just stood there as if he wasn't capable of doing anything while he faced Gil and they also skipped the scene where he managed to break the chain, and he just died pathetically fast

>> No.6247526

>>6244471
UBW has some kind of passive death preventing mechanism too, doesn't it?

>> No.6247529

F/SN is shit, stop trying to find DEEP meanings.

>> No.6247565 [DELETED] 

>>6247529
Reported for shitposting and liking old men.

>> No.6247573

How long is the VN ?

>> No.6247580

>>6247573
Too long, Nasu is a master in padding and dragging things on and on.

>> No.6247581

>>6247529
lol y u mad though?


>>6247573
If you completed all three routes, it's pretty long. Though alot of it feels like filler. It took me about a week to finish it. (4-5 hours a day)

Definitely worth it though. Excellent VN.

>> No.6247588

>>6247437
But what about the all important...
UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS!!!!!!!

>> No.6247591

>>6247573
Generally close to 40-50 hours.

>> No.6247593

>>6247581
so it's around 35 hours ?


Well, i have some time to loose.

>> No.6247594

>>6247581
>lol y u mad though?

Reported for /a/ QUALITY level.

>> No.6247595

Isn't this one of the longest VN ever?

>> No.6247598

>>6247595
Not even close?

>> No.6247607

>>6247598
It's in the top 10 actually.
Longest is W. L. O or France Shoujo, holy fuck are these long.
There is also Hello, World and Baldr Sky, FSN probably isn't far behind

>> No.6247650

>>6247595
I dont know about the longest one EVER. But it is surely one of the longer ones.
>>6247342
DLing it now. I wish it wasnt in fucking blueray. Gonna take forever. My card has trouble with highdef stuff too.

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