/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e2ttnrjtim3n4i

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer and bios. Now updated with the latest PCsx2 SVN beta client, plugins are automatically included. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

AT3 Artbook - http://www.mediafire.com/?jrm2mg22mkx

AT2 Raki bug patch - http://www.mediafire.com/?bp8ydy03ml7r5xa
You shouldn't need this if you're using the newest version (0.9.7) of PCSX2. Thanks to anonymous for uploading this!

Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_5

Latest Toukousphere Translation:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_98

Toukousphere 100 is up, but it contains flash segments. Help would be appreciated if you can edit those!

Much love and thanks to the Anonymous translating these. ♥

Is AT really that good?

A bro of mine is playing AT and he told me it was great.

In befpre: That guy yelling, "COCONAAAAAA", sion being butthurt, someone tossing a derogatory remark about EP=NOVA/CUTYMUMP, 500x500.jpg, Halloween.ass, Luca is a whore and a slut, leotards, and all the usual.

http://ar-tonelico.jp/arciel_ardor/index.htm

The new CD is out, as well as Atelier Rorona! Discuss.

>>6213608
Gameplay in the 1st game is pretty generic, but the main focus is the VN segments and the music (this is true throughout the series).

Gameplay in AT2, though, is genuinely fun, which just adds to the entire experience.

Never played AT3 though, so I can't tell you about the gameplay there.

Will the Janitor be less bias in this thread and not lavish it with moderation while ignoring the rest of the forum?

>>6213608
The gameplay and story is nothing impressive but the girls and routes are fun.

>>6213754
I thought it was impressive ;_;

Anyway, reposting the link to the new Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ album which came out 2 days ago in case anyone missed it:

http://www.mediafire.com/?cim8496yi6mmvmi

>>6213795
Thanks!

>>6213754
story is impressive because it's a well done world ..if anything the world itself is one of the forte of this saga

>>6213873
Just because the setting is nice doesn't make the story itself great. I'm not saying the story is bad or anything.

>>6213795
Orgasmic album.

>>6213795
Goddamn, this album is good. The songs are long, too.

>>6213795
Also, to add on, some other guy posted a picture of the CD, which I think is amazing (pic related)

On top of that some images from the book, which comes from the limited edition release, have been put on site: http://ar-tonelico.jp/arciel_ardor/

Still waiting for my copy to arrive.

Combat in AT3 is very very basic, but everything else pretty much makes up for it

>>6214021
Hope so, I've heard some people say the combat system sucked pretty bad. Then again I won't know until I actually get my hands on a copy.

Never finished AT2 yet, so is it true that

Infel is the real big bad?

I wish there was an Ar Tonelico remake. I just want to see EXEC_PAJA in all its animated glory.

>>6214007
Damn that looks beautiful, the artwork is great too.

There was an interview posted up in July with the AT3 head localizer, some good stuff there.

http://otakuxgamer.com/story/7738

He decided to familiarize himself with hymnos to understand the translation better, pretty nice.

>>6214007
Me, too, but I know someone in an IRC channel I frequent that's already got their copy ... so jealous. I really want the lyrics sheets, too, because I hear there's all sorts of new hymmnos ...

>>6214655
>so jealous
Same here

Here though: http://artonelico.isisview.org/viewforum.php?f=14

The first 4 song lyrics have already been posted.

I'm extremely satisfied with them, and I'm really liking Infelious Rhaplanca

>>6214691
Yeah. I've been in a lexicon-generating mood lately, though, so I'm really waiting to see the Japanese and Hymmnos for the same text side by side.

i wish there was more AT doujin

rape doujin specifically

>>6215104

Rape I can't help you with unfortunately since I haven't seen all that many although I did find one with Shurelia getting fucked by faceless men and deleted it out of rage. Speaking of which I really should finish uploading the C78 doujins I grabbed off pant.su, there's some delicious Totori and AT goodness though I wish there was more.

>>6214092

That would be correct, yes. Not to spoil the story itself but you start to notice signs about half way through the game and it slowly all slots into place.

>>6214691

Damn, Lazy is fast. I really wish they wouldn't post like it was Gaia though. *glomps* >_< EEEEEEEEE!!!! *dies* XD etc.

>>6213795
>new rapemyface album.

Mother
Of
God

>>6214593
>Do you know whether or not we're going to be getting both English and Japanese voice tracks for Ar tonelico III?

>You are getting the full Japanese voiceover

hurray, the BD is large enough this time !

>Listening to Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor
>Afezeria HARVESTASYA
>MOTHERFUCKING BAGPIPES
Mother of God, it's beautiful

>>6214007
How can I buy this CD?

Every AT thread is a GUST thread.

>>6216167

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88%E3%83%8D%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B33-%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E
7%B5%82%E7%84%89%E3%81%AE%E5%BC%95%E9%89%84%E3%81%AF%E5%B0%91%E5%A5%B3%E3%81%AE%E8%A9%A9%E3%81%8C%E5
%BC%BE%E3%81%8F-%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8CD-%E8%AC%B3%E3%81%86%E4%B8%98~Ar-%E5%88%9D%E5%9
B%9E%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%9B%A4/dp/B003UXUEI2/

Long as fuck link I know, but I ordered my limited copy from here. Of course you can always get them from other places like cdjapan

>>6216151

Haha, I thought the same thing. Usually bagpipes disgust me but I was strangely attracted to them this time.

I'm surprised at the lack of threesome doujins with Totori released at Comiket. Maybe winter will deliver.

>>6216089
>hurray, the BD is large enough this time !

Not according to this:

>>Is there going to be an English one?
>Yes, but I'm pretty sure we're going to have to cut down some of the lines because of memory issues and other reasons.
>>If you do have to cut portions out of the English track, how will you decide what stays and what goes?
>We are currently working on that process. I have a draft, but it looks like it's still too big, so I'm going to further cut down some of the lines. We haven't quite decided, but I'm sure that we're going to carefully decide which lines to voice. Especially important scenes to the story and smarky, goofy, or bonus scenes and stuff like that - those [are more likely to be] voiced.

So wait. I thought the blu-ray is supposed to be big enough to fit even multiple languages. So either the japanese version of Ar Tonelico 3 has a looooooooooooooooooooooooot of voiced dialouge or my lazy senses are tingling.

>>6217733
>because of memory issues and other reasons
*bullshit detectors are going wild*
Japanese audio does not require higher bitrates than english audio. If you're loading two mutually exclusive sets of sound data into memory at the same time you're doing it wrong.

>>6217733
It doesn't have a ton of voiced lines. But I downloaded the game and it was like, 22GB. And single layer BDs are only 25GB right?

>>6218114

3GB is more than enough to fit a single voice track onto. Hell, the 360 manages to pull it off perfectly fine and they're limited to 5GB per disc. It just sounds to me like they're being extremely lazy and/or cutting back on the work due to budget reasons. After the horrible job with AT2 I'm not even surprised to hear this news.

>>6218270
Hell, if the game is taking up that much space, a competent encoder could probably shave off significant space without significantly effecting the game. Or better still, since it's on PS3, add the Japanese voice tracks as DLC, storage problem solved

>>6216167
>>6216221
AFAIK CDJapan lists the limited edition as "Out of Stock," whereas Amazon probably managed to secure some B stock somewhere else since my order got delayed to today. Others already have their grubby hands on it.

>>6218114
You can download it now? Where from?

>>6218980
I downloaded it off bitgamer. Your PS3 would need to be able to play downloaded games though.

>>6213597
On a related note, never realised that answering those enquete questionnaires gave you freebies such as these unreleased AT2 tracks. Saving you fags the effort and uploading it.

http://www.mediafire.com/?imjr7edqftcn7hq

Supposedly the overland BGM (Daini No Tou/Chiisana Tabiji) would change to either of the two depending on whose route you took.

INB4 WHY 128KBPS. That's the best (and only) quality available.

>>6218293
>add the Japanese voice tracks as DLC

Uh, what? Do you actually prefer the English voice tracks? SERIOUSLY? I'd rather they just saved themselves the money and not hired that troupe of clowns that passes off as VAs that shit up most localized anime and games, thanks.

>>6219081
>INB4 WHY 128KBPS. That's the best (and only) quality available.
Well fuck. Thanks though,more to my collection.

>>6218293
All the audio is basically stored in 4-bit ADPCM. ALL THE AUDIO. They'd have to tweak with all the calls to audio to replace the Sofdec calls with something else, which would probably be a pain with the RAH stuff. Doable, but enough work to be pretty unlikely.

But yeah. I don't care how straight you are, you would play this, admit it.

>>6218293

I've never understood why more games haven't taken advantage of this. I'd gladly pay to get Japanese audio as dubbing usually makes me sad.

>>6219352

I thought Sony/SCEA had some anal rule about games that are released require English audio otherwise they can't release the game. This is why Agarest was limited to DLC only for the PS3, I believe. I completely agree with you that the dubbing is fucking horrible but they're just trying to get their game into stores.

>>6219483
It doesn't have Gengai, it sucks.

>>6220513
>>6219483

Calling dibs on Tatsumi.

>>6219352
I was proposing alternatives, not saying I prefer one track over the other. If they are in fact having issues fitting it all onto the disk, then they could put the tracks in as DLC. You're reading way too much into it.

>>6220312
>I'd gladly pay
Hell, they should have it as free DLC as it should be in the game in the first place.

No love for Europe, NISA? Guess there's no Rorona artbook for me then.

>>6220922

I agree they should but the fact that I'm willing to pay just shows how much I want it.

>>6221869

I thought the NIS store delivered to Europe?

>>6221869
>>poor rorona.jpg

Not if you get the bling ending.

Livin' the dream.

>>6224030

Delicious see-through.

So, wait. In Rorona, you can't just submit one of each item for the first assignment? You have to submit a shitload?

Fuck. I've been doing random quests non-stop, ignoring the assignment. Might have to start over.

>>6220312
>I thought Sony/SCEA had some anal rule about games that are released require English audio otherwise they can't release the game. This is why Agarest was limited to DLC only for the PS3, I believe. I completely agree with you that the dubbing is fucking horrible but they're just trying to get their game into stores.

Seriously? That's absolutely retarded of them.

Pretty sure if you just submit one of each, you'll end up with 3/10-stars on your evaluation, but don't take my word as law here. I just remember all the assignments except 10 being piss-easy. And 10 was only a bother because I hadn't raised my adventure level much.

>>6224394

What makes it even worse is that because the 360 version is retail and it eventually drop in price (and has -- I think I saw a new for $29.99). But the PSN version will never drop in price -- it's still around $45. Not to mention it's like 10 GB.

>>6224394

What makes it even worse is that because the 360 version is retail it eventually will drop in price (and has -- I think I saw a new for $29.99). But the PSN version will never drop in price -- it's still around $45. Not to mention it's like 10 GB.

>>6224524

You can also add in the fact that you can rent and buy it elsewhere (second hand, bargain bins etc.) or even sell it on after you're done. I can see why PS3 owners were annoyed when they announced the Limited Edition for PS3 would just contain a download code.

>>6222947
Yeah, but they're sold out and there won't be Premium Edition when it's released here.

Loli Misha is the best.

TransAnon are you planning on doing TKS 99/100? I noticed the recent updates to 101 and was wondering if the previous two would get done.

>>6219081

What other freebies are there? Just curious.

>>6228039
Yeah, I just figured it would be nice to get back into the swing of things with the latest issue. (I want to get everything done, but obviously that's a long-term goal.) The only catch is with 100; it would be really nice to have edited Flash movies to stick up for the Toukou Matters, but I'm probably too impatient to get into Flash decompilation myself. If someone shows up who does know Flash, though, it would be nice to also do Flash Cosmosphere 2 at the least ...

Sorry I've been lazy lately; I don't have any really good reasons like having been in the hospital, I'm just really disorganized and have too much going at once.

>>6229178

Oh no, you aren't slow at all and I appreciate the work that you do. I just noticed that we'd skipped two of them and was just wondering if they'd get done.

>>6228039

ARM has a whole list of enquete passwords for Gust games/materials at http://artonelico.isisview.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=20&hilit=enquete

Mostly wallpaper and sketch stuff, with occasional music, giveaways (Japan only) and Harvestasha Screen Crashers. Was hoping they'd have something more awesome for Ar Ciel Ar Dor, but we only get a crummy calendar.

>>6229178
Are you currently a one-man translation effort?

Am interested in posting photos of the Ar Ciel Ar Dor limited edition book (if no one has done it yet), since there's awesome backstory in those 60-odd pages. I'd do it myself, but lack the time, commitment and general JP ability.

Pic related. Outlines the AT2 Rhaplanca overarching backstory, tying the following songs together:
METHOD_IMPLANTA./,
METHOD_METAFALICA./,
Utau Oka Salavec Rhaplanca (from the Harmonia album)
and of course Infelious Rhaplanca from A=C A=D

Reported for not /jp/ related.

Back to >>/v/ with you

>>6230435
All that will accomplish is getting your post deleted, silly man. And mine too!

>>6230332
I seem to be the one concentrating on Toukousphere translations at the moment, but of course Aquagon and others have done quite a bit of work there in the past as well.

oh god the map

My copy of ACAD should be getting here in a few hours, if Fedex is as reliable as they have been in the past. If there's that much content, it'll probably get treated like a settei book. In which case I'm kind of interested in doing a cliff's notes versions of the AT3 book and perhaps this since I don't feel like taking the time to transcribe all the Japanese as well (plus lol copyrights) ... maybe. And then Aquagon and Lazy would probably get around to full translations in time, as they always have.

>>6230435

Two threads in a row? Welcome back gb2/v/ guy, it wasn't the same without you.

>If it wasn't a heaping 180 minute torture bonanza of me cursing out, abusing, and Cleansing idiots, though, I still wouldn't do it.

Oh my, this would be glorious. If only they'd do it. ;_;

>>6229178
I may (emphasis on may) be able to help out editing the flash files. However, I don't understand moonrunes so I'll need to be provided the translations and swf files beforehand. I don't know if it'll work since I'm not exactly a master at flash but it's worth a shot.

>>6233614
Here's the page with Shun and Frelia basically doing a first "oh, hey, we can do talk matters" type thing.

http://ar-tonelico.jp/toukoumatter/flashCS_V2.php?fname=yoruhana

Unfortunately, I don't know how the text will be encoded - probably Windows CP932, UTF-16, UTF-8. See if you can find this for the first couple of lines, though:

瞬ちゅん、まだ起きてる？
Shun-chan, are you still awake?

フレリア？
Frelia?
どうはたんだい、こんな夜中に？
It's awfully late, what's the matter?

That's all I'll do for now - I'm trying to learn the Japanese kana keyboard layout, so typing Japanese is going to be a bitch for the next month or so ...

>>6233614

You, sir, are awesome.

Best school ever. It's a shame Tilia looks so derp.

>>6236904

Tilia is just a laid back kind of girl.

>>6236904
>>6236926
Tilia underped.

>>6236926
By laid back you mean totally baked?
Look at those eyes, man.
Total stoner.

>>6236948
You are quite correct my good Anon who has the typing style of a certain tripfriend.

Obligatory.

>>6236926

Laid back is no excuse for looking so derp.

>>6235752
Well, good news and bad news. Good news is, I've successfully DL'd the file and converted it to an FLA file (though how successful it was is still uncertain-I still have to reinstall Flash CS5 due to a recent windows reimage).

The bad news is that they've coded in something that will not allow the swf file to play at all if it's not on that specific page (instead, you will be greeted by a rather angry tilia, or simply a never-ending loading screen if you run it offline ). I don't have much actionscript experience, but I've seen examples of the code that does this and will try my best to remove it.

Example of angry Tilia:
http://ar-tonelico.jp/toukoumatter/flashCS_V2.swf

>>6236966
It sure is going to look horrible.

>>6238403
More bad news: None of the scripts or graphics are contained within the SWF file-the swf file is simply an 'engine' that assembles the graphics and text together (it's literally 16 frames long).

The really bad news: The default name of the script is pre-defined (they check if the string "fname" is undefined, and then show the error.xml file with tilia if it is) and I don't have access to http://ar-tonelico.jp/toukoumatter/CONTENTS/ where the script file is stored, which means I don't know the name of the script file, which means I can't access it. Its name could range from simply 'first' to a random string of 10,000 characters. I'll try to figure it out, but it seems a bit hopeless. So far the only way to get this done seems to be contacting GUST themselves and asking if we could translate the files.

Link to the default error message:
http://ar-tonelico.jp/toukoumatter/CONTENTS/error.xml

That's the really bad news. The less bad news is that if this all magically works for some reason, I'll still have to individually download all the backgrounds and character sprites by looking at the error logs, as those are also hosted on their server and not contained within the SWF file.

>>6238822
The semi-good news is that the anon who TL's the toukouspheres would only need to look at and edit the scipt files, and then send them to me to test if it works with the 'engine'.

>>6238822
Bwahaha.

Tilia: Hey, no fair cheating! I don't know if you're sneaking around, or if it's just a Tiliasoft bug ... But you need to access this through a proper plot route. Well, bye-bye.

Okay, this is not a problem, I think. Does it look like it would be easy to just change the base URL the app goes to? If so, then basically picking the whole thing up and moving it onto a different server that has translated script files ought to be cake. (I figure the least ass-holish thing to do is basically replicate exactly what they've got, except with English text; I don't want to antagonize GUST, I just want people to be able to read Shurelia making Tilia fess up about what kinds of noises bunnies really make.)

>>6238822
Bwahaha.

Tilia: Hey, no fair cheating! I don't know if you're sneaking around, or if it's just a Tiliasoft bug ... But you need to access this through a proper plot route. Well, bye-bye.

Okay, this is not a problem, I think. Does it look like it would be easy to just change the base URL the app goes to? If so, then basically picking the whole thing up and moving it onto a different server that has translated script files ought to be cake. (I figure the least ass-holish thing to do is basically replicate exactly what they've got, except with English text; I don't want to antagonize GUST, I just want people to be able to read Shurelia making Tilia fess up about what kinds of noises bunnies really make.)

So who do you think will be the English VAs for Ar Tonelico 3?

Aoto - Probably Johnny Yong Bosch again. Or Yuri Lowenthal. I would like a different hero VA for once, though.

Saki - Laura Bailey. She seems to like the cute types.

Finnel - ?

Tilia - ?

Cocona - Tara Strong

>>6239427
I was about to post something describing the entire situation when I noticed what was wrong.

>http://ar-tonelico.jp/toukoumatter/flashCS_V2.php?fname=yoruhana
>?fname=yoruhana

There was a variable in the actionscript that was named 'fname' and since I couldn't find it in the swf file I thought it was some copy-protection thing you could only get past if you had the variable name from the server itself (since fname set which script file to use). I totally missed the '?fname=yoruhana' in your link. Now I have access to the xml files and the only thing to do is to download all the sprites and backgrounds necessary.

>>6239770
Another little problem and a request. I don't have one of the fonts that are used in the swf installed, and the one that it defaults to doesn't work. I'm trying to find it myself, but if someone could, help finding the font: ＤＦＰ綜藝体W9 would be appreciated.

>>6239427
>>I just want people to be able to read Shurelia making Tilia fess up about what kinds of noises bunnies really make.

Anon you really are a class act.

>>6240085

What the fuck, some sites charging up to 4000 yen just for that font.

Delicious Frelia in linkage armour.

Hello, I'm completely new to this. I downloaded your lazy people pack™. I think I've managed to get the emulator working, but I only see moon runes. Is it only in Japanese? I can't read it.

>>6243139
No one will, anon.
'Tis a thing of dreams and fantasy

>>6239770
Ah, excellent. I've got the XMLs and chr_table, so I'll just get to work. Let me know when you want them.

At some point could I bother you to have a look at the Flash cosmospheres as well? It looks like it's got more packed into it, since the SWF itself for Infel lvl 1 is almost 7MB. The mp3 and script XML is still external, but it looks like that's about it. Hopefully changing the hard-coded(?) URLs to grab those to use a base URL passed in as a parameter would do the trick. (And maybe there's some internal editing needed to change character names ... ) I haven't looked at FCS1.

>>6244671

No, I can make it happen. Until I wake up.. ;_;

>>6244199

That's odd. The torrents for the games are English and the emulator is English too so you shouldn't be seeing Japanese at all apart from the untranslated parts of AT2.

>>6244953
Well, I can't really do anything to 'check' the stuff right now since none of the dialogue text shows up when I compile, english or japanese.

It's either:
A. Something with the default font I'm using, which means I'll need a copy of the previously stated font
B. For some reason it'll only work if hosted on a server
C. Something else entirely

>>6247750

Nothing ever seems to be going right with this. ( ﾟдﾟ)

>>6250040
My Sharorona.mp3

Really fun and relaxing game; I'm going to replay it soon for the other endings.

>>6247750
>>6239770
>>6244953
>>6233614

Ahh, I am rooting for you noble anons. Go goooo.

>>6247750
Sorry if I'm obtuse, but what exactly happens? Is it just sitting on the LOADING... screen, is it actually getting into the event scenario with no text, or something else entirely? Also, do you have all the files it needs around it in the same directory layout as on their server?

>>6250969

Good luck if you decide to go for the 100%.

>>6256308

That's not ZUN!bar-chan, Zun.

>>6257794
>>That's not ZUN!bar-chan, Zun.

W-what?!

>>6262097

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5389731

I have no idea why I remember that thread but I've always seen Akane as ZUN!bar-chan since.

Which should I buy: Rorona or Totori?

>>6263447
Both. Totorin wouldn't be out till late 2011 or 2012.

>>6263447
the answer, not so obvious
as for me, totorin is best~

>>6263449
I can read moonspeak

>>6263467
Ok, I'll try getting it first then.

cdjapan restocked limited edition of Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor

>>6263489
its a sequel though, so...

>>6263528
Oh, is it? I guess it leaves me no choice!

>>6263533

Enjoy your.. alchemy, good sir.

its going to take me like 2 or 3 years but i hope to eventually be able to play these games in japanese

god damnit languages

>>6213608
>Is AT really that good?
If gameplay is what you are after then you may or may perhaps not be very dissapointed.

The gameplay was never focused, they are made to be Galge games, all the focus lies on the Heroines, the girls.
The gameplay of Ar Tonelico is more made as some minor element for added flavour, and it is more made to be interesting than anything else.
So it is designed in a way so the gameplay should never get in the way of the girls or the rest of the game.
You can of course indulge in certain gameplay elements and explore them deeper, but it's never something you should have to do.
You can actually without much trouble waltz right through the entire games with little to no trouble at all, unless you do something utterly wrong.
As mentioned, the gameplay is more of a flavour thing, and it's not supposed to hog needless time.

Roughly half the game is in a VN-styled design, entirely text based, where you dive into the mind of your desired heroine of choice, where you indulge in more or less romantic and kinky experiences, more or less developing into some sort of dream/cyber mind sex thing in the deeper levels.

The story is all about the girls, you dive into the girls to find out more about them and in order to sort them out.
Then you find out how they are connected to the fate of the rest of the world in one way or another, and then you continue to support your girl after you have fallen in love, in order to resolve things in a way that works for her in relation to how things are.
And as I said, text based, lots of CGs, everything.
And while it may be "safe for work" (it kind of isn't), it still is as your regular other VN Eroge/Galge titles out there, only, this one has an element of gameplay.

I really don't get what all the fuss was about with others not approving of it being /jp/.
Does none of them know anything about it, and are they all just spewing things out of their asses, or what?

So what is it about AT that you guys like so much? I've played AT2 and 3, and the gameplay is pretty bad. But, this is an RPG so I am willing to look past it if the story is good, but even the story looks like a pretty generic JRPG story. The galge elements are nice, but not too deep. It's kind of like babby's first JRPG and galge rolled up into one game. I will say that the music is pretty enjoyable though and some of the girls are rather cute.

But all in all, why do you like this game so much? Is it the average story + average galge rolled up into one that get you? Or the never ending onslaught of sexual innuendos?

>>6265547
The gameplay is designed to be bland.
Too bad if the story didn't fly with you.
And what is wrong with you if you don't like the girls or the interractions with them? That is the entire point of the game, what routes did you take?
>average galge
Cause it's not average as one, those bits if anything are what is fine.

>>6265594
>The gameplay is designed to be bland.
Why would one do this? Why even bother putting gameplay in if it's not fun?

And I said the galge elements were nice. But there are plenty of other galge out there that focus specifically on that and do a much better job.

>>6265611
Ok, that was outright incorrect.
The gameplay is made to be "interesting" as pointed out >>6264652

But thing is that it's not quite made to be a game like that, therefore this "bland JRPG" as you sort of put it, is the natural consequences of it being made in order to never really be necessary, so that you can walk right through the game without ever getting stuck because of gamplay.
The challenge ratio so to speak is designed to barely even exist.

The point is that the game doesn't lie in the gameplay, because it's not a gameplay type of game. It's about the girls.

>>6265643
But then why do they have the boring RPG stuff at all? Why not just make the entire game a VN or something?

>>6265661
Because it still contributes something.
It's like asking why Galaxy Angel have gameplay at all when it's shit (yes it's shit even compared to the gameplay alone of this).

It's an element with the task of adding flavour while not really getting in the way.
And there is still voices and lots of text even in the gameplay mode.
All in all combined with the VN mode these games really are rather text heavy.

If anything they should be making Eroge, but that might damage their career and I bet they make more money in the open market as they already are known and have a strong brand so to speak.
But this particular team is more suited for that sort of work or anything.
Not that it matters that much, it's sort of borderline that thing already anyway.

>>6265694
>Because it still contributes something.
Er, what does it contribute exactly? An interruption to the fun parts of the game? I just want to spend my whole time diving and getting to know the characters and shit, and frankly the gameplay and overarching plot gets in the way, especially when they aren't even good.

>>6265929

>frankly the gameplay and overarching plot gets in the way, especially when they aren't even good.

What happened to the guy scanning the new artbook?

>>6267687
COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>6267687
he died, no one is scanning this book. ever.

>>6267740
i'm alive !
blame the wit on my boss making me work, work work and ..work i arrive at home tired.. i'm making some progress..but that's it .. i can't scan if i don't have some free time

>>6267802
all hail teh scanning guy

>>6267802

That's cool, take it easy and scan it when you can. I just thought you'd disappeared after teasing us with a few pages. ;_;

I will never have a PS3 for AT3 because I'm poor ;_;
Anyone planning on recording a playthrough like the one I watched for MGS4?

>>6268365

I'm pretty sure there's already a run through on YouTube although it's obviously in Japanese.

Sucks that I can't DVR Adventure Time, program guide is fucked and claiming that Regular Show is coming on at 8:15 instead; Adventure Time doesn't show up at all in the 8:00 slot, it just says 8:45.

>>6268361
thanks
>>6269501
funny thing about these "runs on youtube" those people never play like me so i'd rather play the game itself ... thankfully since i know that AT3 is being localisez and that th ehead translastor learned a bit of hymnos i'm waiting for the release with huges anticipations.

Today i materlire rorona finaly arrived ( nis forgot to put the legal papers so it delayed my delivery )

BUT i don't have free time to play it !! Dammit ..i should scan this artbook .. but it's time to go to sleep ...
hum ? what am i doing on /jp/ instead of scaning the damn artbook ?
well at least i can browse internet while listening to the Audio disc with the rorona release ,right ?

Question : Is the rorona audio disc complete ?or do i miss some tracks ?

good night everyone

>>6271522
you bought the one from NISA?
it's a sampler soundtrack
also known as useless

>>6271551
care to direct me toward one appropriate ?

>>6271912

Pretty sure you can get the OST from the usual places like CDJapan, Play-Asia etc. You could probably find a download for it via Google if you don't feel like spending more money.

>>6244199

Did you manage to fix this problem?

>>6271522
>funny thing about these "runs on youtube" those people never play like me so i'd rather play the game itself
I know that, but it's either watching someone else, or not play it at all. My OCD demands it.

>>6273524
this problem is something entirely else ...

>>6271551
just finsihed listening the soundtrack , it's not great but it's not bad either for a game like rorona this is quite okay .. it's even remotely as important as the musical aspects of ar tonelico.
i put it on the same quality level as the soundtrack i bought with my mana khémia 1 back in the days

Rorona OST is pretty good IMO.

"Nose Dive" is probably my favorite song.

>>6275896

>Nose Dive

Fuck, it's stuck in my head again now. Fuck you, ZUN.

>>6274915
i meant to say that it's "NOt" as as in ar tonelico ..
forgive me for the typo

>>6276501

Just our of curiosity.. what is your native language?

>>6276501

Just out of curiosity, what is your native language?

>>6281380

I've been tricked, fucking leaf not showing up in the thumbnail.

>>6279471
I can't decide which side is best.

>diving
>level 9
>need 50,000 DP
Wow, I actually need to grind DP a bit.

>>6282190

I think the answer is obvious. They're both perfect.

Someone really should upload the At3 Drama CDs and Voice de Toukousphere and link it here >>6213602. They've been out for awhile already...

>>6283335

Best one.

http://www.mediafire.com/?tr2cmfz19ca5s

Here's the Saki one. Don't know a convenient link for either with everything zipped up though.

http://www.mediafire.com/?u4o07c650jwe4

>>6283335

I know an Anonymous here has at least Voice de Toukousphere so he might be willing to upload it, assuming it's not uploaded elsewhere.

>>6285542

Voice de Toukousphere
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I9KQ1I0E

>>6284553
>>6284561
>>6287068

Excellent, now if only I understood moon language I'd be set.

>>6287980
Just loop it anyways, like I am. Zero moonspeak ability here, but I can pick up phrases and usual sentences from years of anime.

>>6284553
Finnel drama cd sounds like it's the best indeed

>>6278987
my native language is french , i also speak kreyol used in the Caribbean islands , english , some of spanish , enough japanese to finish rpgs on my own and understand most of the story.
(commercial games finished in japanese : grandia 3, tenerezza , tales of rebirth , tales of destiny 2 , tales of the world 1)
yes i'm also i big tales of fan
ps: but i don't have much free time so i wait for translations of my games .

>>6288571

Huh. I'm not sure what's going on but I can still pick out words to know what they're talking about at least. And it's kind of relaxing hearing them talk.

I kind of wish AT2/AT3 had songs similar to EXEC_PHANTASMAGORIA/., I know it'd be the same singers but just hearing them all together like that would be nice for more than a couple of tracks.

Suddenly Sakia looks even more delicious.

>>6284553
>>6284561
After stories ?
Goddamnit GUST instead of releasing drama CDs just make some scenarioes and add them as DLC, that different personality bs can't be all that you had planned.

they too busy adding DLC to atelier totorin

>>6294340

Oops, wrong image.

>my face when i realized sakia rumei has twintail and not ponytail

>>6295662

Silly Bangkok, that's one of her selling points.

>>6295662
So... you have no face?

>>6297819
>aspect ratio

>>6298690

My thoughts exactly.

Totori is so lucky.

>>6302665

I concur.

so, how is the english version of atelier rorona so far?

Finally on Phase 4, hopefully should finish tonight.

>>6307304

I'd like to know how the translation is too. Not really concerned about the dub but I'm hoping that they at least did a good job with the translation itself..

>>6309405
>NISA
>good translation

>>6309442

This isn't Ignition Entertainment. Nor Ar Tonelico 2.

>>6309666
What's your point? If you consider extreme liberty with translation, as NISA does, to be good, then you'll like Rorona's TL I guess.

>>6310041

So it's a decent translation then? I'm not expecting perfection but I certainly don't want AT2 all over again.

>>6311007
They changed around a few nick names in the english translation but that's about it so far, but I'm not too far into the game. There also seems to be very minimal dub lines, I was kind of surprised about how much is not actually english voiced.

>>6311035

>They changed around a few nick names in the english translation

Ah yes, I actually kind of raged when they added 'Dee' to a certain characters name.

Obligatory translation request.