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>>6204583
Er I meant EO3, of course.

Did the fix come out?
Last I heard sailing out made the game freeze, same with some attacks.

>>6204589
The game is fully functional on no$gba emulator.

It would be nice if the text didn't suck.
Then again, I pirated because NO AUSTRALIA RELEASE WHEEEEE.
Also, Prince(ss) seems to be pretty pimp class, buffs everywhere and uses longsword. Keeping mine on full HP is a serious drain on my Monk's mana, but that passive heal is soooo worth it.
And FORGING OH MY GOD FINALLY.
Only made it a few steps into floor 2 and haven't figured out that fucking bird at the lighthouse yet.
Party is Ninja, Pirate, Monk, Princess, Arbalist. Monk with a bashy stick and Arbalist with a crossbow seem to be major sources of murderpain so far.

>>6204597
I'm >>6204616
Runs fine on DeSmuME. You'll need a beast of a CPU to run at full speed, though.

>>6204597
Meh, I like playing on my Ds, I'll guess I'll wait.

>>6204589

That is due to a lousy rom dump. There is a better one out there (60~MB) that works fine on pretty much everything.

>>6204597

If you have the incomplete rom (~35MB) even on no$zoomer/gba you'll eventually crash after the 2nd stratum.

>>6204647
>better one
Link? Name? Hell, a CRC checksum would be enough.

>>6204647
>That is due to a lousy rom dump. There is a better one out there (60~MB) that works fine on pretty much everything.
Really? Thanks for the tip.
Any chance you could point me to a site or something? My usual sources all have the 20mb one.

>good music

OST where?

>>6204674

Its on Bitgamer.

>>6204647

The Nukethis release? There's still no patch for the AP, is there? I know people have been complaining about that, and not just R4 (lol) users like me.

>>6204616

I keep my Princess in the back, since she'll be too busy throwing buffs and using items to attack often anyway.

I'm seriously considering giving my Ninja Princess as her secondary class once I get the chance. Assuming Royal Veil activates for Bunshin clones, that could be pretty sweet. Three Veils a round would be troll tier. Still only on B4F, though.

>>6204734
I'm considering dropping my Ninja, putting the Princess in the front and getting a second Pirate for gun skills. Monsters seem to randomly attack the back row fairly often, and I'd rather my Monk heal people who are actually, you know, damaged, rather than missing 2 hp.
Calling them a Prince(ss) is fairly misleading, really. They're closer to a 'fuck you I'm goddamn ROYALTY' class. Should have been named Noble instead.

>>6204706
Is there a source that doesn't require a registration/invite ?
A mediafire link?

>>6204831
seconding this, it would be a godsend.

So why don't we get this game in Europe?
Anyway, region free and everything, right?

Patchouli is a princess?

>>6204939
can't you look at one character without thinking what touhou it looks like?
thirding request for the functioning rom, bitgamer bros please help

>>6204944
no "bros" here so fuck off

>>6204944
Patchouli, Marisa, Rinnosuke, Blonde Wriggle.

ROM WHERE

Just how is the M3 Perfect Real?
I heard it was the best way back.

But I almost haven't heard of it at all as of late.
Is it bad compared to R4 and the DSTT?
I heard the M3 had better compatibility and all that, but I don't know.

>>6205515
R4 is pretty unsupported right now, if you want one be ready to look for custom kernels and updated .dats and all that shit for antipiracy. I think the best is Acekard currently?
I'm not that updated so I could be wrong.

That 60mb one is up on DGemu at least if anyone cares.

Anyway, is it possible to play a DS emulator, but with a higher resolution of sorts?
I have run No$ with "Run in 640 x 480 screen resolution" enabled, but I feel like there should be a better solution.

I have a flashcart but I have to play the rom on an emulator. wtf man...

I haven't played since yesterday. Narmer keeps killing my Buccaneer so I have to keep going back. Probably gonna get a Nectar so I can kick his ass.

>>6205723
>That 60mb one is up on DGemu
>Download Size: 22.17MB
are you sure? Or was it posted in the forum and not in the front page? The front page one still freezes according to comments

I lost my copy of Etrian Odyssey 1 when I left my DS on a plane...

I'm still so upset that I don't think I'm ever going to finish it. I was on the 3rd stratum.

Should I just skip to the second and then the third? ;_;

>>6204597
>no$gba
>(DGEmu.com) 5220 - Etrian Odyssey III - The Drowned City (U)(NukeThis)
White screen, nothing.
What is wrong? The emulator? Or the rom? Or both?

>>6205789
Are you using the latest N$DS release from a torrent or getting the second latest release from their site?

>>6205764
Unpacked it's 64mb, really.

>>6205794
I have 2.6a, is it not the latest one?

>>6205789
Use no$zoomer, and the load from bios setting. That worked for a bunch of us, and with the new ROM you can clear the whole game without crashes.

>>6205800
Screw that, I guess it isn't.

Monk, Princess, Hoplite
Zodiac, Arbalist

That's my current party. We kicked Narmer's ass and are currently on floor 6. Also, the preorder artbook is quite nice for us buybros.

>>6205801
>NO$Zoomer 2.3.0.2
Nope, it doesn't work.
Other games work fine, but this one doesn't.
I really don't know why.
Is it some option thing with the Zoomer?

OH GOD WHY IS PRINCESS SO ADORABLE

I need an antipiracy fix ;_;

Gah this is really annoying.
Nothing works.

>>6205801
Could you possibly share with me, the version of your no$gba, your no$zoomer, what rom you are using and any other trick or option you have enabled.
Let's pretend I am supposed to get this working from scratch.

I get the same problem everytime, and I have never had any trouble before.

>>6205789
5220 - Etrian Odyssey III - The Drowned City (U)(NukeThis)
is this the same as
5233 - Etrian Odyssey III: The Drowned City (U) 20,4 MB --> 64 MB extracted
?
I can't download the first one for obvious reasons.

Also, I can't believe that an official US release can have such a horrible font.
"As f tacitly admitting it, the"
I wonder if they forget the "i" or if the font made it invisible.

Got the rom, just waiting for the latest Wood R4 to come out that fixes the AP.

Is it strange that /jp/ talks about video games more than /v/ does?

For my starting party, I always go for the staples. I went Gladiator, Hoplite, Monk, Zodiac and Arbalist. I might go for the Pirate + Princess combo later, or maybe just keep this party and subclass into fun/combo/situational things.

NukeThis dump still freezes on most/all cards when sailing or using Limits.

>>6206072

Not really, considering /v/ is full of /b/tards now who think playing Japanese games makes you a "huge weeaboo faggot".

>>6206084

Fuck, and I already put over an hour into it. I just tried using a limit, and it froze. God dammit.

http://www.mediafire.com/?0dk9wqcdasd517d

Pre-configured no$gba/zoomer, courtesy of a friendly /jp-v/ user. Replace the EO3 rom in this directory with the fully-functional 64mb rom. If this doesn't work, there is something wrong with your computer.

NOTE: USE NO$Zoomer.exe, NOT NO$GBA.EXE.

>>6206084
>>6206138

It doesn't freeze on NO$Zoomer. Just transfer your save.

I have two zodiacs.
Is that a bad thing?

>>6206388
nooo...

You can clean trash like it was nothing, but you'd get fucked if a mob decided to make a physical attack on your back row.

>>6206388

Yes, a Zodiac without a Ninja/Zodiac spamming Dark Ether to support is extremely limited in use.

both bitgamer roms are bad dumps

Eh, decided to start over my game. Screwed over my skills too much and don't want to grind to beat Narmer. Gladiator, Princess, Buccaneer, Ninja and Hoplite party again, this time with better skill distribution.

>don't want to grind
Then you're playing the wrong game.

Also, don't forget to farm money and get your team the best armor possible. Make three farmers and chop/gather/mine your way across the first stratum. Since they can raise all 3 gathering skills simultaneously with 1 skill point, the default 3 skill points they get at level 1 are basically enough to fill your item bag to the brim each trip. You can outfit your team very quickly, and it makes a huge difference in your overall survivability, which will be important since trash enemies in the second stratum hit harder than FOE's in the first stratum.

>>6206820
My farming party actually has four farmers, one of them has To Market which is basically a free Warp Wire back to town. I also have a Phalanx and the Crossbow using class to deal with the Great Lynx whenever it decides it wants to eat my team's face.

Hell, since the ROM I'm using is fucked up like everyone else I've just stuck to the farming team on the first floor and raked up around 10,000en.

>>6206820

I grinded in 2 and it made the game too easy later. I don't want it to be like that so I'm taking a better approach instead of just grinding it out.

http://www.mediafire.com/?s89gr38fvr838w9

I'm using the latest version of DeSmuME (0.9.6) with this rom and I've had no problems whatsoever, aside from some minor text rendering. I'm up to the 4th stratum and done most of the sea quests so it should work fine for the rest of you.

>>6207237
Tried it out on my flashcard, it was WoodR4's latest version. Sadly it froze up when I tried to set sail. Though this shouldn't deter anyone else from trying it via emulator, obviously.

>>6207237
Thanks, bro. Youre one of the good ones.

What level should I be to take on the queen ant?

I pre-ordered it and have it right here, but I kinda want to finish EO2 first, since I'm in the middle of it, and I've been pretty busy lately, so no, I haven't played it yet.

Very much looking forward to it, though--it looks awesome.

that feel when you had EO I on launch day, only finished it around Christmas 2008, and are only on stratum 2 of EO II.

fortheglorybump

>>6207942
The last one is inaccurate, but how did you know of my tradition of playing and finishing these games around Christmas time? I finished EOI around Christmas 2008, EOII Christmas 2009, and I suppose I'll be saving this one for Christmas too.

Which cart does it work perfectly on?

>>6210558
It doesn't on any of them. I guess hackers are too busy playing pokemon blackandwhite to make a fix.

Wait, so there are no Knights/Protectors anymore?
No front and back guard, and no pure defence/heal archetype?
I loved Knights, they were the best in concept as well.

The Prince/Princess class is good, but what is a Princess without her Knight Protector to protect her?

>>6211057
I guess the Hoplite have to suffice, but Hoplites are not the same thing.
And I liked the Protectors more.
But I guess it's way better than Medics -> Monks.

>>6211073

Ranma-monk is Waifu Tier. I'll thank you not to slander her.

Since this thread is here I might as well ask this.

Farmers, are they useful?
Or should I just make room for a Gladiator?

>>6211104

Ever made a full party of Survivalists before to gather? Farmers do it much better. But they have much less use in battle, other than some nice buffs (like EXP up). If you're making a party for crawling/boss killing, here's by list in order of overall usefulness.

Gladiator
Phalanx
Shogun
Ninja (sub'd as a Zodiac is bananas)
Arbalest (boss killer)
Princess
Pirate
Monk
Wilder
Zodiac (as a main class, only good for midgame, sucks early and late)

Haven't tried the others enough to be fair.

>>6211104

Ever made a full party of Survivalists before to gather? Farmers do it much better. But they have much less use in battle, other than some nice buffs (like EXP up). If you're making a party for crawling/boss killing, here's by list in order of overall usefulness.

Gladiator
Phalanx
Shogun
Ninja (sub'd as a Zodiac is bananas)
Arbalest (boss killer)
Princess
Pirate
Monk
Wilder
Zodiac (as a main class, only good for midgame, sucks early and late)
Farmer

Haven't tried the others enough to be fair.

>>6211104
Farmers are very useful for gathering items, boosting party EXP, and a bunch of other stuff.

They're not that useful for stabing a sword into a monster's head though

>>6211140
Let's say I would have one be part of my main team of 5 though, would that be a waste?
Or should I just have them go on gathering trips and other things like it?

>>6211148

Just make a party of 5 Farmers and max out Listen to Experience first. Then go crawl with your regular party, come back, and max out your gathering skills.

Staple party:

G-H-M
A-Z

Combo party:

N-Pi-H
Pr-Z

Survive anything party:

N-H-W
Pr-M

Speed boss party:

G-N-S
A-A

Get a head start on the next Harvest Moon/Rune Factory game. 5 Farmers as your main party, nothing else.

is this game fun to pick up for newcomers?

I tried EO2, but got bored fairly early. Is this game a huge improvement?

>>6211319
nope, pretty much the same thing with new classes and a new map. If you didn't like 2 I doubt you'll like this

Is Provoke on Hoplite good or should I just stick with Divide Guard?

>>6211390

Provoke can be a good option, especially if you put them in the back. They take pretty much no damage from anything while your party smacks the enemy down. I actually only took two hits from an FOE at level 9 because I used Provoke when needed while the Buccaneer kept blinding him. Even when it hit it only did about 14 damage. Not only that, but you need it at level 5 for Parry and Magic Parry.

It took hours of chopping and mining, but I finally raised the 126,500 en to buy a Yagrush for my monk. Now she has 427 attack power, and I haven't finished floor 8 yet. Yagrush requires the rare drop from Narmer *(thanks, Formaldehyde) and that price was after using a coupon. It took so long to farm that much money that Narmer respawned by the time I was done. But now she's hitting for 300 with normal attacks, so it was worth it.

>>6211670

Wow, thanks for reminding me not to sell my Formaldehyde. Was gonna do that to get better armor soon, but forgot about the rare boss drops.

Hahaha, Narmer finally goes down, the fag. Level 14 party now, gonna go higher baby. I don't think I got the rare drop, though.

This might sound like a bad idea, but might a 5 man Prince(ss) team actually be viable?

With the Royal Veil, all of them would get fully healed at the end of turn unless all of them were to be hurt.
But then again, their buffs can heal as well.
And thanks to how they can regain TP by being buffs (and by buffs ending), they should have a near infinite supply of TP as well.
And while their stats may be a bit sub par, shouldn't all of their buffs cast simultaneously be able to compensate that somehow?
And while attack might be an issue, that Regal Radiance elemental thing can be decent at least, can't it?

>>6212355

Later, party sweeping elemental attacks would rape that party. You need a Hoplite for that. Also, normal encounters would take forever.

The portraits for this are really beatiful.
Too bad you can't see your dudes while you fight.

When exactly do you get subclasses? I'm really excited about it. I'll probably make my Gladiator sub Hoplite for better defense, dunno about Princess, Buccaneer, Ninja or Hoplite though.

>>6212355
Who cares whether it'd be useful, it'd be adorable as hell.

>>6212367
That elemental attack deals damage to all enemies at least.
But yeah, it has it's limitations.

>>6212405
After you beat the third stratum, if I remember correctly.

Still waiting to play this on my DS without freezing.

>>6212405
You get sub-classes after clearing the second stratum and talking to the Abyssal King.

>>6212460

Well shit, another stratum to clear. These second stratum guys are smashing my guys around currently.

>>6212355
>>6212367

I'm actually doing this, only they're all starting out as other classes and taking Princess when subclasses become available.

No idea whether this'll work well, but I'm hoping to use TP-saving passive skills, defensive buffs and Royal Veil to win through attrition. Pumping out lower-level, but zero-cost, skills every round seems like it'd make for respectable offense. Be convenient for random battles too.

>>6212480

Holy shit you just gave me a great idea. I'm gonna subclass my Buccaneer as a Prince now.

>>6212479
Yeah, second stratum enemies are head and shoulders above those in the first stratum. But tough it out. Once you get some armor upgrades its not so bad. And the boss doesn't seem quite as bad as Narmer (although I thought Narmer was pretty easy, to be honest).

>>6212662

Narmer was only tough for me the first time because I don't like imbalanced levels on my teams on a game, and I had to keep restarting because one guy died. These guys are eating away at my TP though. I pretty much have to max out my TP regen skills now which kind of sucks since I can't strengthen my Princess's heal buffs.

I went to 4 different stores looking for this game, none of them had it. Looks like I'll have to order it.

Had my Zodiac sub Ninja, and now I think I broke the game. She uses Bunshin, and then the clone just spams Dark Ether while the real Zodiac and the Arbalist just go to town. Once the Zodiac learns Meteor in one more level, she will be a force of nature.

Any idea how the subclass thing works?
Does it affects actual stats, or only the skill-tree(s)?
Are the sub-class's skill-tree(s) equal in everyway as main-classes'?
Are the subclass skills more expensive or anything?

Or is it basically just two classes at once, hybrid as much as you want?

>>6213137
There's no EU release, if you happen to hail from there.

And about that.
EO1 got itself an EU release, though it took time.
EO2 haven't gotten one yet though, is it possible it will?

Not that I see any real reason of getting the EU version over the other, because they are the same, right? But yeah.

>>6213281
I had my Ninja subclass Zodiac instead because of the Ninja's class ability. I can spam Dark Ether, Izuna, the leg bind and sleep for 1 TP.

Although, I think Shogun/Buccaneer is a more gamebreaking combo, especially if you have a Warrior Might spammer. Dual wield + Limit Boost + Swashbuckling allows me fill up the limit bar within 1-3 turns while Warrior Might chases each attack. FOEs and bosses become a joke after this.

Is a monk-prince a good idea?

>>6213415
That would get all of your healing/buffing needs under one roof, so it's not necessarily a bad idea. But that wasn't the route I took. I had my monk sub gladiator to make use of the club skills. And my princess subbed buccaneer for rapier skills.

>>6213354
The sub-class does not appear to impact your stats at all. Nor does it change what gear you can equip. Sub-classes give you access to most (but not necessarily all) of the class's skill tree to purchase. One skill in particular that is missing is the Farmer's skill Earth's Bounty that boosts EXP gains for the whole party. You still need to invest skill points, and you still need to buy prerequisites. Also, when you add your sub-class, you gain a few free skill points. It appears to be level/5 rounded down, since my character at 30 got 6 and the others at 29 got 5. And you do appear to pick up an extra skill point at certain levels, but I have found no pattern with how that works, or even solid proof that that it happens at all. The extra points I saw might have been points I forgot to spend along the way.

Also keep in mind that sub-class choices are permanent.

>>6214119

The sub-class excludes the class skill (first on the list on main classes).

You get exactly 5 skill points when you set a sub class, and you can change your sub class by Resting/Retiring.

Ninja/Zodiac + Meteor spam =

ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!!

>>6213415
Extra Heal percentage thanks to the Monk's class skill combined with the royal veil may be good.
But just how much heal do you want anyway?

Is a tank necessary? Both main and post game.

>>6215091

Not really needed for main game.

Post game Hoplite is a must unless you have a Zodiac with points in the Prophecy skills.

>>6215118
I can always sub a Hoplite for the guards, but I'm worried about my frontline Shogun and my Warrior Might x/Shogun at the back.

If you didn't name your Princess Patchouli you don't know SHIT about Japan.

>>6215134

That reminds me. The guys that compared the prince to a blonde Wriggle. I decided to check the color swap and he had green hair. Honestly surprised me.

OST is out on /rs/

Bump

>>6215134
Sorry, but the blond princess is cuter.

I can't get it to work on my R4. Fuck.

>>6215134
I named my Zodiac Patchouli. My Princess is Shinra. The guild is Yukkuri and we sail the high seas on the SS Meat Bun.

>>6215750
Get Wood.
There's no point using the original firmware if you've got an R4.

>>6215748

I have both, one in each row (Blonde as battle spec, Patchy-hime as support). Also, being able to toss out buffs twice as fast is important, and having two sources of Royal Veil means only party sweeping attacks need healing (making normal encounters cake).