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Maybe it depends on what class she's summoned as?

Almost all of her knights betrayed her and abandoned her, remember?

>>6206539
Aren't the knight betraying him? My knowledge in Arthurian lore is pretty low but this is what the vn seems to imply.

Maybe and maybe. Did he lost them before dying?
If all fail: Blame lolnasu.

Why does that bother you and not the fact that it's a freaking girl? If anything you should get pissed over that.

>>6206568
That didn't bother me at all, to be honest. Like Kenshin, there were theories about the girl things. Plus it was believable to me in presentation in this canon, and that's what matters.

Nero, on the other hand...

To be fair, she's already overpowered as it is.

And who says excalibur was a two handed sword? Sure, the sheath made arthur invincible but it doesn't mean he was stupid enough NOT to carry a shield.

>>6206568

She's too fucking moe to get pissed over that.

>>6206580
Two-handed feat doesn't work with a shield, unless it's a small, arm-strapped buckler.

>>6206580

>And who says excalibur was a two handed sword?

Fate/Zero shows that she cannot wield it properly with damage to her left hand.

>>6206581
Goddamn it why is arthur a girl I mean he was super manly and the king of england for fuck sake and bes-HHHHGGGGGGGGGNNNNNNNNNNNN

>>6206568
If Arthur were a man in F/SN, that would make the sex scenes pretty awkward, wouldn't it?

On the other hand, Nasu could have easily made Saber into Joan of Arc. That's what I thought she was in the first place.

>>6206586
No, I mean, who says the SWORD was 2 handed. And besides, it could have been a bastard sword.

>>6206587
Right, but I was talking about the "real" (if it could be said like that) excalibur.

>>6206539
>If Alexander gets to summon his army of Heroic Spirits, why doesn't KING ARTHUR of all people have a Noble Phantasm that represents the Knights of the Round Table?
Short meta theory: Nitro+ and Zero came after, I doubt Nasu thought of something of that scale for Fate
Long in-game theory: The concept underlying the Round Table is that every knight is equal, even the king: they respect and value each other. Meanwhile, the whole point of Ionian Hetairoi is that the whole macedonian army swore an eternal oath to Iskandar. He's the pillar that supports and unifies everyone. Fate/Zero goes at great lengths to show how each of the three kings in there has a pretty different way of ruling: Iskandar's is really close ties with his armies and his soldiers and loyalty; Arturia's is sacrificing her feelings for the people and what must be done. Arturia never had close friends amongst the knights, except maybe Lancelot (who knew she was a girl), Iskandar had the whole fucklot of them binded to him until the end of time.

>>6206590
Jeheanne d'Arc should be a Rider class, as her martial prowess was sorely limited, not enough to be a Saber class.

I worked up her class, stats, and NPs a long time ago. They're awesome.

>>6206590
Except if Shiro was a girl. Pic related, that's the first shiro.

She's already got the most hax sword, you want to give her the most hax summon as well? Lancelot by himself was enough to give the King of Heroes problems.

>>6206590
You and Zero Caster.
It still makes more sense than Nero though.
Seriously. Nero? WTH?

>>6206597
Not "two-handed sword" feat, but "two-handed fighting," using two hands with a weapon for added power/stability instead of just one hand, which is what she does.

>>6206609
I'm not cuestioning the canon, I'm questioning it's similarity to the original weapon it was based of.

Also, why was Nero a girl again?

>>6206590
>that would make the sex scenes pretty awkward
More like pretty awesome.

I just imagined Arturia as a waifish boy anyway during the eroscenes.

>>6206613
To cash in on Saber's (Arturia's) popularity.

YOU ARE NOT ALEXANDER

>>6206613
Because Admiral Saber.

>>6206604
It's Shiki's true-blooded sister getting her own game! Type-Moon bloodline flows through their veins!

>>6206625
No, I mean the canon reason.

>>6206630
The fuck is up with those shoulder pads or whatever they are called? Seriously.

Speaking about the Knights of the Round table, has this VN been released yet?

>>6206641

>canon

I believe it was because the romans wanted to slander her after her death and I guess they couldn't come up with much except remembering her as an insane man?

>>6206625
Then why not make her Lucius Artorius Castus, a figure who King Arther was based on, who even has "Artorius" as his middle name? It would explain all the similarities, and he's even Roman so they wouldn't have to change their Nero setting stuff much.

>>6206653
I guess they needed someone really famous.

>>6206641
You can't be an admiral without the admiral shoulder pauldrons, Nack.

>>6206653

The writers for Fate/Extra were pretty bad, apparently.

Nasu had to step in and rewrite pretty much the whole thing, and I guess he just left the characters who they were.

>>6206679
But Nero wasn't an admiral!

I think.

>>6206686
Nero was whatever the fuck he wanted to be.

And apparently he wanted to be a slut in charge of the navy.

>implying that Nero didn't want to be the little girl

Don't Servants in F/E get to choose what they look like, since it's all a simulation anyway?

Gawain chose to look like a male version of his King, I believe.

And Lancer wanted TRON LINES ALL OVER.

>>6206726
A fat crazy neckbeard that wanted to be little girl.

He was /jp/.

The knights had no kinship with Arthur, merely obedience to an inhuman, perfect king. Alexander and his army were essentially one heart, chasing their simple wish to the world's end.

>Also didn't King Arthur have the spear, Rhongowennan, and the shield, Prydwen?

Yes, but Saber Arthur only possesses Excalibur since she was a living human and only had Excalibur with her at the time she made her contract. She is summoned from that point of time and returned to it whenever she fails to obtain the Grail, which is also why she has vivid memory of the Grail Wars.

A "complete" Arthur summoned from the Throne of Heroes would possibly have Rhongowennan, Prydwen, Caliburn, Avalon, Carnwennan, Gwenn etc. provided those items racked up enough mystery to qualify as NPs.

>>6206858
This pretty much covers it.
But regardless, a complete Arthur would be stupid overpowered, even if the other things aren't qualified as NPs if only because she would have Avalon, Caliburn and Excalibur.