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>> No.6161312

>>6161263
Fuck Sanae constantly for the BP and try to release prisoners every turn, especially the Sensouji guys since they give the most BP. And don't forget to get the free BP from Sunshine. You should be able to get to around 1200 at least without any issue. At worst, you can farm the BP you need from doing cleanup. Any autoclick program will do that for you in about an hour without you having to pay attention.

>> No.6161327

>>6161312
Is there actually any point to getting them? They seem to suck...Kana is the only decent looking addition for the whole difficult trial

>> No.6161342

>>6161263
>If you want Nina on Hard Mode, than you can't afford the vacations.
That's not really a good argument.
If you don't do the vacations, then you need to fuck Sion. And if you do Sion instead of Kaen, then it's not like you'll be able to afford thie Nina either....(whoever she is)

Admit it, fucking Kaen like a coal train is vastly superior to fucking Sion.

>> No.6161346

>>6161327
Not really.High Evd and decent non-combat units thanks to minimal pay, but they're pretty useless. They're easy to clear and all get bonuses at the same time like Erika's gang at least.

>> No.6161360

>>6161342
She's the store owner/assasin/rapist who drugs and rapes Rouga. You have to buy ALL the items in the store, which will cause her to sell herself to you for only 13 BP (awww how sweet). And items in hard mode cost about twice the normal amount.

>> No.6161370

>>6161360
The only reason to recruit her anyway is to recruit Moo, who you get too late in the game to really be useful.

>> No.6161378

>>6161370
He's Moo. He doesn't need to do shit. Just getting him is the epitome of accomplishment.

>> No.6161388

>>6161360
Every single item has an alternate way to get it. Most will take at least a turn in the exploration phase or dungeon crawling, but you can avoid most of the cost with a little work.

>> No.6161389

>>6161360
Oh, her.

>And items in hard mode cost about twice the normal amount.
Even so, you could easily afford all that (and much more) from your regional income and Curry wolf income. Tapping Kaen's ass is just a bonus on the side so you can afford vacation (and more).

>> No.6161398

>>6161378
Don't you need to level him up a lot to get his clear?

>> No.6161403

Gaaah, why does BBA restrict the juke box until you clear it....Siiiiiiiiiiiigh

>> No.6161412

>>6161398
Yeah, but you should have a super powered Gyver Mac at that point. Just send them into a dungeon together and pick up the 700 Exp you need in one trip.

>> No.6161418

Kaen should have just become my rich and sexy waifu from the beginning, things would have been different around here if she did ;_;

>> No.6161439

>fuck sanae early on for 50 bp
>fuck sion later to keep jew golds
>wish you had fucked kunagi and kaen more

i really would have preferred those 2 in my final battle...

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>> No.6161454

>>6161439
Why the heck didn't you tap Kaen's ass when you could?
Not only does she obsolete Sanae, she obsoletes Sion as well.

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>>6161453
THAT FUCKING NTR FAGGOT. I'LL NEVER FORGIVE HIM FOR BREAKING UP INCEST COUPLES

>> No.6161487

how do you enable chaos mode?

>> No.6161495

>>6161487
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Bang_Age:Hints_and_Tips

>> No.6161507

Is Sae's skill useful against the last boss?

>> No.6161544

>>6161439
Kunagi's useless against the last boss. She has almost no counter and his Hit is over 200, so she can't even touch him.

>> No.6161565

>>6161544
Give her an item that increases her ctr to 99. incredibly helpful

>> No.6161578 [SPOILER] 
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6161578

Motherfucking perspectives. How do they work?

>> No.6161588

>>6161565
Better to use Senna for that. Higher damage.

>> No.6161606

>>6161578
Delicious rich ojou-sama. You must poke.

>> No.6161608

No Kunagi and Senna both surviving route.

GOD DAMNIT THIS GAME PISSES ME OFF.

>> No.6161609

>>6161544
Was your Kunagi weak bro, or what?
My Kunagi had 184 evade and easily evaded his attacks.

>> No.6161632

>>6161609
I don't think so, Tim.

>> No.6161643
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6161643

Haha, Chaos Mode looks awesome. Too bad I probably don't have enough 5star cleared characters...

>>6161608
Well, Senna sort of survives in Kunagi route...

>>6161609
Maybe on normal, on hard he has 270+ hit so it'll still be hard to dodge.

>> No.6161665

>>6161643
He has about the same Hit on Normal too.

Plus, Kunagi would have to have the Evade+ item, full New Game+ bonuses, AND be on an aburdly high level to hit that high of an Evd.

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6161674

If in chaos mode you get characters who have 5 star clear and everyone else are enemies, who do you fight against if you 5 star cleared everyone?

>> No.6161688

>>6161674
Not many. You still always see characters like Gamon and Daimao though.

>> No.6161692

>Though I wonder why Rouga suddenly decided to make her his girl even though she didn't get it, while doesn't even have sex with Marishia, another pink haired sweet girl who actually likes him.
Because Marishia is a late game character, and only available in one route.

As sad as that may be.

>> No.6161730

>>6161692

http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Bang_Age:Character_walkthrough/Kyusuhuu

>> No.6161808

>>6161609
>My Kunagi had 184 evade
On normal the final boss has 257 hit. That's 73% chance to hit Kunagi...
She definitely need +counter items to be useful there.

>> No.6161833

>>6161643
no she dies.
what you see is just another clone.
senna was closer to the original than other clones and the ninja group got scared and wanted to kill her off. The leader kills her with a poison that disables her super healing.

>> No.6161846

>>6161833
>no she dies.
>what you see is just another clone.

The only part of this post that is correct.

>> No.6161848

Okay this is weird as hell.

Kunagi had level 6 love (0 hearts)
Sanae had level 6 love (0 hearts)
Sion had level 6 love + star (which is actually just level 5 love with 3 hearts)
Kaen had level 5 love (0 hearts)

But somehow I manage to get Kunagi, Sanae and Kaen for the battle. No Sion....
How?

>> No.6161854

>>6161848
Might have to do with the number of stars cleared. Kaen seems to almost always be in the party for some reason though.

>> No.6161936

>>6161854
Hmmm, this might be it.

Kunagi 2 star cleared
Sanae 2 star cleared
Sion 0 star cleared
Kaen 2 star cleared

I'll do some more testing.

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So I restarted after getting a good grasp of how things work and I'm doing three times better than my first run and I'm about to conquer Nightmare eyes.

Is it worth it actually going through the trouble to get Tennouji Mio? I'm thinking of just ignoring Transylvania and going after all the independants aside from Shin juku until turn 34. I've almost got enough for a vacation and I'm gaining about 700bp each income phase so 1000 won't set me back too far which makes it even more tempting to just ignore nightmare eyes until turn 34.

>> No.6162029

>>6161997
Forget Tennouji, she wastes anywhere from 4-6 events out of your 100, and she's not even that great of a unit. Only get her if you REALLY want to start doing character clears now

>> No.6162042

>>6161854
>>6161936
Okay here's something interesting.

Sion:
1 star cleared / Level 5 love
Kaen:
2 star cleared / Level 4 love

Kaen made it for the final battle, Sion didn't. Looks like 2 stars cleared is required along with enough love level.

>> No.6162053

>>6162029
Plus the fact you need 2 animal units to even recruit her and 2 more to clear one of her stars.

>> No.6162055

>>6161997
Just get rid of the Nightmare Eyes. There's no real reason to keep an enemy faction alive and it actually hurts you when the next bordering faction declares war on you.

With that said, Tennouji isn't that great as mentioned. What route are you on anyways?

>> No.6162061

Kinryuu looks like she has some pretty damn good stats.

>> No.6162129

>>6162061
Kinryu's the hidden awesome melee character like Vandain is ranged and Moo is short range. Her only big issue is Stamina, but I like to use the Bag of Spirit or Nightmare Eyes badge (I think) to just keep her at a permanent 3 stamina.

>>6162055
Conquering the Nightmare Eyes too quickly initiates the Mio events, which are a headache. Mio is a cute character though. She deserved to have a scene with Rouga. I'd still conquer Transylvania for the loyalty moss, but it's not vital either.

>> No.6162210

>>6162055
Kunagi, so I'll have to do battle with Pram after I conquer Nightmare Eyes.

NPI won't declare war until turn 43 so the only war I'll have while ignoring Nightmare Eyes is the independents, and Touma alone is enough to fend off a couple turns of attacks as I gave him the +100hp button.

There is literally zero threat from Nightmare Eyes for multiple turns if I just station Touma and Ginjou there, as both can one shot all of their units and never need to be pulled out for health.

>> No.6162318

What's the use for Secret Diary?

>> No.6162324

>>6162318
Gives you 5,000 BP

>> No.6162446

>>6162210
If you feel you can handle it, it's a great idea to use them like Shinjuku. Good for exp farming.

That's what I intend to do for NPI/Oosaka, while fighting PGG and Nightmare eyes.

>> No.6162451

>>6161846
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Kyoodou_Senna

Senna possesses more of the original shrine maiden's soul which the Academy feared and viewed it as a sort of threat so Academy prepares to kill her but Kamui stepped in and saved her which it was "good" Kamui delivered her to Rouga

Senna is much more powerful than all other clones

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6162463

She uses a bowling ball as a volley ball? What is this I don't even...

>> No.6162465

>>6162451
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Senpuuji_Yuuna
"She is Kyouko's young sister."

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She uses a bowling ball as a volley ball? What is this I don't even...

>> No.6162475

I wish they would have made an alternate version where gou is hero.

>> No.6162491

>>6162475
I wanted to see some CG events of him nailing NPI's leader in the bed...

It's not fair Rouga gets all the girls.

>> No.6162495

>>6162491
Sparn got Sonnet. ;_;

>> No.6162505

Is there anything useful about Sparn at all? (other than sacrificing him to clear Kyouichiro)

>> No.6162516

>>6162505
Let's you capture/recruit elves? Not really though.

>> No.6162524

>>6162505
His starting stats are pretty decent, and he's better than Sonnet and Yuu combined. Might be worth picking him up at the start.

His cons are passive ability's bad in that it decreases the loyalty of those stationed with him plus his rather high upkeep.

I personally don't get him because he pisses me off.

>> No.6162541

Sparn and the elves aren't that great.

Now MARIO is a fucking badass. Flashy is hax shit and helps a lot in hard mode.

>> No.6162542

My Devil Daigo got killed by the girl with the coffin monster ;_;

>> No.6162562

>>6162542
Kaguya hate Devil Daigo ;_;

Need hatesex doujin of the two...

>> No.6162607

>>6162562
Isn't the hate just one-sided? IIRC, he was caught off guard by her.

>> No.6162609

>>6162562
But who'd be doing the raping?

>> No.6162618

>>6162470
Yes. Bowlyball. She becomes such an insane character though. She currently has 56 atk, 32 eva, and 120 hit at turn 62. Not one of my strongest, but she's definitely worthwhile. And that passive of hers is just ridiculous.

>> No.6162635

>>6162607
You know the hatesex would have ensued later if he didn't get owned. He would track her down and surprise buttsex her behind like mad.

>> No.6162676

>>6162635
I doubt it. Daigo's about on Shirou's level of intelligence. He KOs himself using his power just to look at panties.

>> No.6162702

>>6162607
>>6162562
>>6162635
Daigo was excited that he was getting a love letter, and was touched to be appreciated, and he didn't think it was Aya either, so he probably would have been happy getting some attention from Kaguya if she didn't kill him

>>6162524
Sparn, in addition to being a parody of Parn from Record of the Loddoss War, is also in my opinion this game's Rance. Seriously, he is just like Rance, immature and getting what he wants when it comes to sex, and being really like Rance during sex. "Ha! Take that! WOOO!" and totally in disregard to their feelings, kind of the opposite of Rouga.

>> No.6162723

Daigo was awesome, I'm disappointed I let him die like that, but I'm not going to reload if anyone dies this playthrough. Shit happens...

>> No.6162865

I guess some romance between Kaguya and Daigo could be sweet...

It's not like he'll ever get Aya anyway, she prefers to get nailed by Rouga.

>> No.6162881

>>6162865
That's why she was crying in the bathroom about it afterwards?

I doubt Aya gives much of a shit about sex so much as losing control or being completely helpless.

>> No.6162902

>>6162881
She was a slut! And you know it! And after that gangbang attempt too!

>> No.6162920

>>6162881
>>6162902
It should be noted that in the end she managed to become the Vice-President of the SU, at the side of President Rouga.

>> No.6162938

>>6162920
>she managed to become the Vice-President of the SU, at the side of President Rouga
Daigo never had a chance with that dirty slut ;_;

>> No.6162942

>>6162920
Is there a canon end for all the characters?

>> No.6162950

We Kaguya to marry Daigo and love him tenderly.

>> No.6162978

>>6162942
An ending is shown for pretty much every character (not sure about supergenerics like Jun and other district characters you can get) that is alive at the end...though some endings require a group of characters, so missing one would make the entire ending scene not show.

>> No.6162991 [SPOILER] 
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>>6162865
Don't count on it, pal.

>> No.6163004

All alicesoft girls becomes sluts after they had sex.... Daigo will never have a chance with any of them ;_;

>> No.6163010

>>6162865
>>6162991
But as this and Daimao show, Kaguya can grow to become friendly with demons if she manages to overcome her urge to kill them.

>> No.6163017

>>6163004
No, Marishia was always a good girl. ;_;

I was going to skip her since she didn't look that great as a character, but after her h-scene you get when you don't save her, I reloaded and got her out of pity and guilt. So sad... ;_____;

And even though she loves Rouga, she somehow actually doesn't have sex with him

>> No.6163077

Is there a guide on getting the CG scenes for non-playable characters? How do you get the scene for the dream doctor herself? How about Eclair and Millar? I beat both routes but didn't get those as well as some others.

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>>6162991
Kaguya has delicious small nuggets.

>> No.6163091

>>6163077
Ravi: clear all dream events.
Eclair: reduce Holy Flame to 3 territories while she's still alive and uncaptured
Millar: repeatedly drive her out of Akiba

>> No.6163094

>>6163077
For Eclair's you need to make sure she's still with the Holy Flame during the Rusheld invasion because she gives herself to it to recharge him. What a slut!

Millar's I think you have to completely defeat her bat swarms when she's invading Akihabara twice (?) Not too sure how it triggered, but this is how I did it.

>> No.6163097

>>6163081
One of the tentacles is also having armpit sex with her.

>> No.6163104

>>6163091
I cleared all dream events. Did I have to trigger it somehow?

>>6163094
So does she replace Jeanne's scene? Or do you mean she recharges it AFTER its rampage right next to your capital? (gulp...)

>> No.6163106

>>6163097
And Rouga's got his hand on two tentacles.

>> No.6163117

>>6163106
is it a bad end?

>> No.6163127

>>6163104
http://xfu.jp/alice/wiki/wiki.cgi/bba?page=CGMODE
>全ての淫夢治療した後BSファイナンスの借金を全て返していると淫夢フェ
イズ数回でイベント
Pay back your debt in full, all sex dreams are healed, then wait two or three income phases.

>> No.6163136

>>6163127
Oh, the debt, I figured as much. The guy comes by automatically when you have more money to collect debts so I was down to 300, but he never collected the last bit. So I have to manually spend a turn to do that?

>> No.6163215

>>6163136
Yes.
He's the one behind the dreams, so you can't interact with BS Finances after the event is over. Ergo, your debt needs to be paid off.

>> No.6163237

Which characters did you feel most sorry for? Which ones had you HNNNNNNG?


>>6163215
Ah, no wonder he's partners with Yarashidou in Chaos Mode.

>> No.6163282

>>6163237
I felt bad when I realised what Sion had been doing for such a long time ;_;

>> No.6163389

>>6163282
I didn't. I've read that situation in some other VN, so the second time reading it didn't have much of an impact. If only I could remember where I've read it before... hmm.

>> No.6163463

Is Ryoutarou worth it for how easy you can clear all 5 stars with him? It's nice that you can get a total of 3k out of him, but that 99 upkeep...

>> No.6163480

>>6163389
Planetarian?

(that VN was released after big bang age though...)

>> No.6163494

>>6163463
Nobody stops you from firing him. Unless you're desperate to read his epilogue.

>> No.6163504

>>6163494
If you can get Piss in Boots, you can stop paying him for his services

>> No.6163515

>>6163504
>Piss in Boots
This is wrong on every single level, including item effect.

>> No.6163521

>>6163504
That item has to do with loyalty. The upkeep items are the rings.

>> No.6163532

>>6163521
Oh, right.

Buy a Silver Ring in District Chapter, it's very cheap and pays for itself and much more in the long run.

>> No.6163553

>>6163463
As
>>6163494
said, you can fire him the next income phase. If you are having trouble with how much he costs while clearing his stars you can give him a silver ring. It's by far the most effective use of the ring.

>> No.6163588

So uh, if you do a 5 star clear on a character twice in a different playthrough will his/her stat change again in the next playthrough?

>> No.6163611

>>6163588
No.

>> No.6163691

>>6163588
you do get to use them in chaos modo.

>> No.6163733

How do I make the holy flame's giant robot god of doom stop raping my territories ;_;

>> No.6163761

>>6163733
Ignore, seek another route to their final territory and suppress them asap.

>> No.6164325

How the hell do you get Sion's H scene to show? I've talked to her 5 times after suppressing nightmare eyes but now it's just repeating the previous event.

Also are you able to do the Hawaii vacation more than once?

>> No.6164338

>>6164325
There's a start of turn event after you talk to her. Other events may have higher priority. And you can do it as many times as you have the cash for it.

>> No.6164407

I've always wondered why, if everybody knows what the Priestess looks like, nobody recognized Senna. Or how Kashin managed to stay ignorant of it while raping his way around Japan.

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what the shit?

>> No.6164848

>>6163282
Yeah, that was very sweet of her.

I also felt tremendously bad for what happens to Marishia if you don't save her.

And Kuga, being such a badass, has one of the most tragic ending of the characters, being unable to get together with his family and sister even though she had recovered.

And of course the heroine you didn't pick.

>> No.6165219

>>6164848
Well, at least there's always a sweet Kyudo waiting for him ;_;

>> No.6165454

Is there some profit in recruting trainer from Tiger den?

>> No.6165491

>>6165219
But Kunagi was always his love, but he was too much of a bro to get in the way of his friend Rouga's romance...even though Rouga sleeps around with everyone.

>>6165454
Lv 2 training.

>> No.6165518

>>6165491
Hold on a minute. Were there any implications that Kuga had feelings for Kunagi? I thought it was just a platonic friendship that he shared with Rouga.

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>>6165518
Big time.

In Senna Route, when Rouga first meets Kuga and Kunagi was missing, Kuga immediately yells at Rouga, only to apologize for yelling later.

And in Kunagi route:
Kuga: "Kunagi...do you really love him?"
Kunagi: "Womanizer blah blah, but yeah I still love him, why?"
Kuga: "...no reason." *looks away*

>> No.6166207

>>6165219
Notice how every archer has a canon end with an emo boy?

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Can anyone help me out here? I just cleared out the NP a couple of turns ago and now everytime I get into a battle the first attack that lands will instantly freeze the gameplay but leave the music still running. I'm still running version 1.00, is this an issue that gets fixed in the patch?

>> No.6166482

>>6166207
How is Kuga emo?

I really support him and Kyudo getting together (what a sweet couple) but they technically don't in the end, as Kyudo is off to train herself to become worthy of his attention, or something. Kuga is off seeing his sister who he's separated from, but he doesn't get emo over it. He hasn't actually shown signs of loving Kyudo, and his interaction with Sparn shows that he is just all out chivalrous and trying to protect girls to make up for his mistake of not protecting his sister, rather than Kyudo specifically.

>> No.6166675

>>6165596
lol. incase you didn't notice BBA is about how ryouga NTR's every other dude's girl.

Hibiki
kunagi
chick that daigo likes
there are more but i'm too lazy.

ryouga: feels good man.

>> No.6166680

>>6166675
And too stupid to know what NTR means.

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6166697

Just started BBA 6 turns into the game.
I had to restart SRance 6 times to finally beat it.
How many times will i need to restart BBA?
Also requesting general tips.

>> No.6166702

>>6166680
what's ntr?

>> No.6166706

>>6166675
Well he ntr'd Heita because he wasn't a man at the time, but he didn't NTR Daigo or Kuga as he wasn't aware of their affections, and in Aya's case he didn't even have a relationship with her, it was just to relieve her aphrodisiac. He's actually considerate of girls' feelings.

>> No.6166709

>>6166697
is there english for rance 6? isn't there eng only for 1?

also I think I like BBA better cause i heard Rance has a rapist as hero

>> No.6166714

>>6166706
i don't know if it counts, but he also likes doing people's sisters and daughters.

the maid
the saen
and kendo

good to be alpha

>> No.6166729

>>6166706
Who cares about Kuga's feelings? Kunagi's been in love with Rouga since before either of them met Kuga. Plus, they're engaged.

Furthermore, Heita gave up on Sanae before Rouga did anything with her. If all it takes for you guys to start screaming NTR is someone having a crush and saying/doing nothing, then holy fuck are you people sad.

>> No.6166751

>>6166729
He openly took Sanae and declared her his girl, that is to say, him telling everyone else not to touch his girl.
Then he fucked her senseless in various number of ways with all kinds of different kinks, worked his way up to love 8, saved the world and kept her

>> No.6166762

>>6166729
U mad, Heita ?

>> No.6166819

>>6166751
>He openly took Sanae and declared her his girl
No, he asked her out, she shot him down, and then she offered herself to him to prove that she was resolved to fight Yamizaki.

>> No.6166823

>>6166819
ryouga also called her out on it. but being an alpha she gladly accepted.

>> No.6166832

>>6166823
Would you fucking learn character names already?

>> No.6167006

>>6166482
The fact that his attire is completely black and his B-power is manipulation of shadows may label him as emo to the uninitiated.

>> No.6167013

emo's don't do shit
emo's cry
emo's cut
and emo's die

not kuga, he's a rapist with premptive that stuns.

>> No.6167349

>>6167013
>Kuga
>a rapist.

Wat.

>> No.6167365

>>6167349

I think he's talking about his skill in battle. 1.5 damage and no counter. Pretty damn good.

>> No.6167387

>>6167349
Implying he couldn't easily rape anything in the game if he wanted to.

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6168119

"Fully translated" my ass.

This is the "getting Comet" scene....

>> No.6168143

>>6168119
Then report it, man - the game is huge, it's quite possible he screwed up an insertion.

>> No.6168147

>>6168119
Yeah, there were a couple other untranslated areas too, most notably the Dream Rescue menu. Still, for the most part it's all good. Someone should notify Aroduc though.

>> No.6168201

The Comet thing's already fixed. Just get the up to date text patch.

>> No.6168393

>>6167365
this guy understands,theoretically strongest as it comes out before an attack, can't counter as it's a long range attack so shizuru's won't work, and ALSO stun/no counter. also 1.5x dmg.


5 star bonus is non-transferable?

>> No.6168408

>>6168393
Yes, it just felt weird seeing Kuga and rapist in the same sentence as he's the most noble and chivalrous man in the game, the exact opposite of rapists like Sparn (this game's Rance).

>> No.6168457

>>6168408
yeah, lost my sparn cause i have kuga around.

>> No.6168739

About to hop into the hellhole at the end of my first playthrough, which was extremely sloppy and full of newbie errors. How raped am I about to get?

>> No.6168765

it's pretty easy.
if you have gou, he'll rape everything.
ryouga will rape everything
you harem past lvl6 will be there too.

>> No.6168789

>>6168739
1. If you have an item with +counter, give it to your main girl (if your main girl is medium/short range).
2. Conserve Rouga's stamina until the boss guy.

You should be fine.

>> No.6168828

>>6168739
>>6168789
3. have Rouga wear the Gloomy Mask item.

4. use Rouga's stamina to its best potential.
>special attack -> normal attack -> normal attack -> special attack
8 stamina is used, all attacks get optimal counter stats
>special attack -> special attack -> normal attack -> normal attack
8 stamina is used, but the 2 last attacks recieve heavy penalty in counter stats

>> No.6168841

>>6168765
>you harem past lvl6 will be there too.
It only requires level4, but requires 2 stars cleared.

>> No.6168848

>>6168841
in easy modo

>> No.6168866

>>6168848
What's the requirement in hard mode?

>> No.6169076

How do I get Touma Kanata? I've been beating the shit out of the zombies that's been attacking me and I already captured Youki

>> No.6169083

>>6169076
visit the cracker shop? 3 times.

>> No.6169087

>>6169083
Yeah, that hasn't appeared. I heard it may appear atter awhile but it's been a few Turns.

>> No.6169092

>>6169087
And you still control Shinjuku too?

>> No.6169096
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6169096

Yay, finally finished the game for the first time, on Kunagi's route. Ten 5-star clears and three 3-star.

Should I play Senna's route on hard mode, or leave that until I have a bunch more character clears?

>> No.6169099

>>6169092
Yeah. And uncapturable zombies appear every turn. So it's getting kind of annoying since the Rice thing isn't appearing.

>> No.6169108

>>6169099
I've never seen that happen. Are you really late game or something?

>> No.6169112

>>6169096
senna>kunagi.

>> No.6169117

>>6169108
Yeah.

>> No.6169120

>>6169112
That wasn't the question.

>> No.6169122

>>6169117
That may be the issue then. I always get Touma within the first 10 turns because of the Yuma/Youki issues.

>> No.6169464

>>6169076
Interrogate Youki?

>> No.6169477

Alright guys, how does one rescue Marishia? I keep on getting spotted by those dick knights when I trigger that event. The wiki says I have to wait out that fucking titan god rampaging through my territories to stop before doing it, but... will she be alright till then? ;_;

>> No.6169508

>>6169477
Will all the talk of the rampaging giant god, I was expecting to be dicked over far worse than I was. I basically just ignored it and took the last territory before Nagasaki, then took that and suppressed the whole faction once the god stopped. Then getting the territory back was ridiculously simple because independents don't respawn.

>> No.6170514
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6170514

How do I conquer Koube? I only have 7 turns left.

>> No.6170536

>>6170514
There's no purpose in conquering Koube now. You should have just conquered them when you fought NPI.

>> No.6170813

>>6170514
I'm assuming you're on the Kunagi route and probably want Igarashi? Far as I remember, you have to leave them alone during the NPI, let them get taken over by the Flaming Faggots, proceed to conquer Koube while the Flaming Faggots DO have control of the territory. After Koube is secured, she should join you.

>> No.6170820

>>6170813
Scratch that, just saw you have the fan girl, no way you're on Kunagi's route. Just bumfuck Koube's ass, you can't get Igarashi anyway.

>> No.6170848

>>6170820
Huh? You need to bring Kyouko onto Kunagi's route at least once to full clear her.

>> No.6170920
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6170920

Camilla's bgm was so fitting, right right amount of creepy with the right amount of elegance and classiness.

>> No.6170936
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6170936

Dem vampires. Probably my favourite faction, their grunt vampires units are the only ones in the game with semi decent evade stats.

>> No.6171452

>>6170820

I'm assuming by fan girl you mean Kyouko since she's the only sketchy one I saw in that pic. You can actually use her in Kunagi's route, since having her in Kunagi's route is the only way to actually clear her, you just lose Ren cause she kills him, netting her a star.

>> No.6171458

>>6170936
that's probably cause you were using normals like a noob.

>> No.6171506
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6171506

Just got through district phase.
I ran out of time and the big fat dude got murdered, and his sister got raped.
Daigo, mario, and jun also got lost.
I'm bad at these games.

Should I restart?

>> No.6171513

>>6171506
be a man and finish. that's what ryouga would do.

also you get characters you couldn't get otherwise.

>> No.6171609
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6171609

>>6171506
Restart bro, it's, what, 30mins-1hr depending on how fast you go. Losing that many characters in the district chapter will not help you at all. It'll make your initial fights that much harder.

>>6171513
>ryouga
. . .

>> No.6171654

>>6171506
you're in easy modo, so you don't need to worry. just play the game and have fun.

>> No.6171665

Okay, so total noob here, just got to the 'district' chapter. Does whoever I H first in the heroine phase affect which route I go by any major stretch or can I change that later?

>> No.6171679

>>6171665
wow playing like a giant pussy actually fun?
how the fuck do make decisions in real life?
coke or pepsi? AHHHHRHRHAHRHRAH

>> No.6171698

>>6171679
More like I'm curious If I can fuck one chick and do another ones route, actually.

>> No.6171708

>>6171665
Fucking them gives various gameplay bonuses.
Route is determined by who you attack in District. Ending is determined by who has the highest love level at the end, which is increased by fucking them.

>> No.6171733

>>6171708

...Huh. So my greediness for that 50bp means I'll be getting Hibiki's ending over Kunagi's?

>> No.6171741

>>6171733
No. Once they hit level 5 or 6, you have to talk to them or take them on dates to raise it further.

>> No.6171981
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6171981

Even though these guys suck compared to the Holy Flame, I wanted all the crew to join Rouga's tem.

Kuuya's a pretty cool bro.

>> No.6172027

>>6171981
So did I...I'm so disappointed that they put in such a cute character only to have her die. Alicesoft makes me so mad with this game. So many characters either can't be gotten or have to be chosen between others. It sucks.

>> No.6172039

>>6171981
I fucking hated their generics - Loads of long range pirates with guns compared to loads of mid range knights (and a long range spear knight every now and then) of the holy flame.

>> No.6172054

>>6172027
Huh? They only die in Kunagi's route.

>> No.6172183

>>6171981
They had the best theme IMO. Makes me feel like in the high seas oh wait, high skies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y0il9Q6nz8&feature=related

>> No.6172242
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6172242

Don't mind me. Just killing all the Japanese.

>> No.6172323

Sorry that this isn't BBA related but its at least Alicesoft:
> Playing true route
> Wreck Shimazu brothers shit
> All they wanted to do was be with Kurohime
> Play through on kill the monkey route, heading straight for their country to recruit them
They deserve a happy ending, even if they do steal one of my female commanders.

>> No.6172339

>>6172242
i'm with this anon
holy flame > sky pirates.
holy flame is everything awesome about Christianity and Europe with a hint of german/nazi ambition. also theme awesomer theme song.

>> No.6172382

>>6172339
Yeah sure, it only made me sad that all of them, minus Marishia was so narrow minded and "locked".
Sure it fits with their backstory, having been a minority group lynched by the Japanese, but I still expected a Knight type character with Marishia's view on things.
That was before I knew the story of the Holy Flame though, but I expected at least one such character, and possibly the ability to recruit that person.
Marishia was still nice though, but while she is adorable and beatiful, she is no knight in shining armour. I wanted both.

>> No.6172431

>>6172382
I expected that when I captured Eclair.

Goddamn Alicesoft for letting that thread dangle.

>> No.6172458

>>6172339
Holy flame's theme is probably my favorite track in the game (not counting the OP, of course)

>> No.6172471

>>6172431
Both the skulls and flames are about as useless to recruit as Igarashi. By the time you're done with them, the game is already over...

>> No.6172480

>>6172458
>>6172339
Vampire theme = superior classy.

>> No.6172595

>>6172480
No way. Sensouji and PGG theme is the techno shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qemRBfxilk&feature=related

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>>6172595
How can you even compare that stuff to my lovely and elegant waifu's theme.... ;_;

>> No.6172982
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6172982

How do I get this guy? I've already conquered the Nightmare Eyes, suppressed Abashiri and the prison and the event where he breaks out of prison hasn't happened yet. Is it time sensitive or just low-priority?

>> No.6172991

>>6169464
Doesn't interrogating someone makes them leave the Prison? That doesn't happen with Youki? I've only been hitting the Recruit option.

>> No.6173041

>>6172982
Do you have Sion yet? I'm not sure if this is needed, but it could be.

>> No.6173077

>>6173041
Yes, I do and the wiki says that you must have her. I forgot to mention that.

>> No.6173108

>>6172595
I like the PGG theme, but it's too bad it doesn't really fit to any of their specific characters. Doesn't really fit the supersubservient Ginjou, and Murata...less said the better.

>> No.6173126

>>6172991
I'm not exactly sure if this will solve your problem, but the same thing happened to me on my first run. This time though, I waited an extra turn or two before taking out Shinjuku, but I still had units there. Then I saw a cutscene involving Youki and Touma that I hadn't seen before.

So, maybe you need to wait a turn or two with units in Shinjuku until you see that scene?

>> No.6173169

>>6173108
I think it fits more of the general "atmosphere" of the group, for lack of a better term. The music is synthesized and distorted, therefore, the soldiers "artificially" obey every single order from their chain of command until the very end, even if they personally disagree with it. Kirihara Takeshi is the posterboy for this.

Oh god, I'm trying to interpret the underlying meaning of a BGM for a porn game. I have way too much time on my hands.

>> No.6173197

>>6173077
Was he actually sent to prison? You can beat the Nightmare Eyes without him being dumped there. It always happened almost right after I suppressed the prison. It's not a start of turn event either, so priority doesn't really apply.

>> No.6173212

>>6173169

I got the same general feeling, it actually kind of reminded me of how Advance Wars synced themes with the commanders and their army vibe.

>> No.6173256

>>6173197
I would assume so. Tsukiomi Kibito pretty much given up on him, so he ordered some lackeys to lock him up there. I'm going to start playing again so let me get back to you on this.

>> No.6174009

my current play through is really weird.
i couldn't h with senna during district phase. ( couldn't get her past 3 hearts. depite talking to her)
i only beat one of the groups during district phase.
Sae (ninja girl) never sneak attacked me.
i can't get into sangoku.

What the fuck? anyone else?

>> No.6174027

>>6174009
You can't H Senna until national phase, if you defeat Ren you enter Kunagi route, if you defeat Sanzou you enter Senna route, you can't defeat both.

Not sure about Sae.

Rest I'm going by wiki: To invade Sangoku you need to trigger a event in Iga called "Human Cannon", which you can get if you invade Sangoku once and Sae is in your party.

>> No.6174032

>>6174009
Yeah, not too sure about Sae. I mean, I've heard of others having this trouble, but never had it happen myself. My guess is you'd just have to restart to before you attacked the NPI and try it again.

>> No.6174035

>>6174027
of course i went to wiki first. i'm not THAT retarded. Why didn't sae sneak attack me?q

>> No.6174099

>>6174032
I had the trouble once. As I figure it you have to wait for all 3 of Sae's investigations then you invade NPI. Otherwise I completely destroyed them and still no Sae

>> No.6174111

>>6174099
I think it's taking Iga that fucks up that event specifically because if you release her after she attacks you, you get her back when you take over Iga.

>> No.6175232

>>6174099
i'll take your word for it. thnx. this is my first english run, managed to get my rouga with anti- for all 6 types AND typeless. too bad i won't have the sangoku ppl now.

>> No.6175706

hi jp/
I just clear the game for the first time.
so I don't get anything from clearing it other than hard mode right?
btw, I cleared a few characters but what's the point?

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6175711

>>6171609
Restarted
Perfected everything in 20 turns, which took like 20 minutes.
On national phase now, I have a really bad feeling about this since it's possible for a lot of people to die.
Kunagi left and I don't know if she's coming back.

>> No.6175716

>>6175711
you can save kunagi by going back and beating the bikers instead of the mancheerleaders.

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6175722

>>6175716
What cheerleaders?
She's after the guy from OPs pic.
I have a feeling she's going to be raped.

Also I was going to ask this but I had a feeling it was a stupid question.
Does Kunagi get mad if you have sex with other women?
I had sex with Aya because I guess you had to to save her.

>> No.6175728

>>6172982
Alright, I got him. His events of him breaking out actually happens during the Independent phase. Saves me a couple of start of turn events thankfully.

But damn, for a short range unit, he has terrible counter rate. He can hardly touch Mid and Long range units.

>> No.6175736

>>6175722
Nope. It's one of the things I like about her.

He was referring to Sanzou and Ren back in District Chapter. You can only beat one of them, and that decides the route you're on.

You are currently on Senna Route. No, Kunagi is not ever coming back.

>> No.6175744
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6175744

>>6175736
I don't like Senna.
I never had sex with her before Kunagi left, which was like turn 1 of national phase.
What do I do?!

>> No.6175789

>>6175706
The characters you cleared gets a little stronger in future playthroughs.

>> No.6175791

On my second playthrough on hard, goddam the fights in the dreams are hard.

>> No.6175801

>>6175744
>I don't like Senna.
Why the hell not?? She's so much more awesome than Kunagi, plus her attack animation is cooler as well!

>> No.6175809

>>6175722
>I had sex with Aya because I guess you had to to save her.
No, you had mad sex with her because she was a hot and slutty bitch in heat.

>> No.6175819

>>6175744
The route split is Sanzou. If you defeat him you enter Senna route, if you ignore him you enter Kunagi route.

If you want to go Kunagi route then reload a earlier save and defeat Ren instead of Sanzou. Senna will disappear though as you can't have them both past district phase, just to let you know.

>> No.6175846
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6175846

Red-headed slut should have had her own route.

>> No.6175850

Kunagi is the better character with the better route.

>> No.6175860

>>6175850
No, Senna is superior.

>> No.6175890
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6175890

>>6175819
It's Rance all over again.
It's a good thing I'm autistic, or there's no way I'd waste this much time restarting everything.

>>6175801
Senna acts like a slut, I don't really care for Kunagi and I think Senna might be stronger, and I can't get Ren since I have Kyouko, but for some reason I must have Kunagi.

Also I started skipping sex scenes, they seem to be the exact same thing every time, with slightly different dialogue.

>> No.6175914

>>6175890
Burai, Daigo, and later Akuu are all capably of almost the same thing as Kunagi.

(besides you should try out the Senna route eventually, it's the other side of the story)

>> No.6175947

>>6175890
Nah, Kunagi is more useful half the time. Senna's ability to heal after every battle definitely has its advantages, but she will always, ALWAYS, get hit. She literally has no evade. Kunagi's ability to dodge nearly everything comes in much more useful. But it's all just personal opinion.

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6175968

>>6175914
>>6175947
Alright, this will probably be my last question before I get back to the game.
Is there any point in having Kinako(bombloli) in your group?
She dies in 1 hit, and has 0 evade.

>> No.6175994

>>6175914
Daigo, Heita and Burai happens to have the best evade outside of "main characters", and later Akuu of course.
Francine as well, but you would have to level her and she sucks in all other fields

But none of them grow up to innate evasion of 150+ in any reasonable time, except Kunagi.

>> No.6175997

>>6175968
Complete glass cannon. Only use her if you're sure you can take out the enemy since she can't take much punishment.

>> No.6176006

>>6175968
She's good for complementing Kunagi. High damage medium range which can kill pretty much most short ranges in one hit. She really shines after you clear her, and give her items with HP boost.

Normally I go with Kinako/Kunagi pair or Burai/Senna pair to not over specialising my group.

>> No.6176033

>>6175968
She is a loli, and has sex scenes if you care for that sort of stuff.
And she has an event that greatily increases her attack power, but she gets lower stamina, and she doesn't have much of that to begin with.

I would say that Burai tropes her in about every field.
He has way more HP, way more evade (Burai has good evade, Kinako has among the worst).
And while Kinako has more attack, Burai still has decent attack, and he has about twice the amount of stamina Kinako has.
And then there is the thing where Burai's perfect evade skill is far more useful than Kinako's perfect hit.

>> No.6176037

>>6175994
>But none of them grow up to innate evasion of 150+ in any reasonable time
Burai has 999 evade whenever the heck it's needed. Stamina will be halved, but don't say he can't do it.

>Heita
Heita sucks shit.
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/6144018#p6153272

>> No.6176104

>>6176037
>Burai has 999 evade whenever the heck it's needed. Stamina will be halved, but don't say he can't do it.
That would net him around 3 attacks rather than 6 or 7.
It would also effectively double his downtime as he would have to regain more stamina per attack, yet to gain fewer.

But Burai is still great because he is a well rounded character that is slightly above average in all stats, and he has good stamina.

And what's sucky about Heita? There is random factor that plays a huge part in how in stats, but Heita starts out good, and without bad luck he can keep those proportions and progress great.
He also has 8 stamina which is most certainly increadible. and because he has character checks, unlike Rouga and Gou, he can have 9 stamina if you clear him and continues on another playthrough

>> No.6176110

Which is better at tanking between Sanzo and Kei?

I've only used Kei before and she's pretty fucking awesome, She could tank 6 holy flame knights by herself while a few of the other characters in my team used that turn to recharge health and stamina to replace her the next turn.

>> No.6176121

>>6176104
Heita just fell short in my game. You may call it random but I'm not going to bother with him again.

>> No.6176132

>>6176104
>8 Stamina
Only off by 2.

>> No.6176178

I'm using macguyver for the dungeons and his skill turned out to be truly hax for these dungeons. Do you think I should give him HP item or Evade item?

>> No.6176262

>>6176178
Evade Item. Then send him in with Tomoka and Saito/Saki and laugh. If you give him a couple extra type advantages, he can go through that shit forever.

>> No.6176309
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6176309

After I attack Daigo's land he shows up to defend.
How do I capture him?

>> No.6176348

>>6176309
Read the in-game FAQ

>> No.6176367

>>6176309
Hit point calculate.

if he has 40 HP, you'll want to attack him with someone who has 37-39 in attack.
If your stats don't match, you can soften him up first and then use Sanae's special attack.

>> No.6176373

>>6176121
You're just extremely unlucky. Let me show you my Heita for this game.

exp - 122 atk - 60 hit - 124 eva - 48

And that's after I'd taken the Button of Assault off of him as well. You should really give him another chance. You just got really, REALLY unlucky. Not to mention it's ridiculously easy to get his trust up so that it doesn't drop.

>>6176309
You capture units in this game by getting their health below 10. That being said, sometimes it can be really hard to get them that low. This is where Sanae shines. Use her skill to bring them down, but she'll never kill them. Combine this with whatever doctor character you chose (Francine or Ijuin) and capturing is that much easier.

>> No.6176398

>>6176373
and 102hp. Forgot that, derp.

Also, has anyone ever been able to buff up Yuuki's attack naturally without items? I mean, all of his ( her ) stats are great, except his pitiful 30dmg.

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6176430

>>6176367
>>6176373
Thanks guys.
>>6176348
Will do.

>> No.6176435

>>6176398
I kept using him in battles to stall and I've managed to raise his dmg to 45. At this point, he is only second to Tomoka.

Growth rates, how do they work?

>> No.6176519

>>6176121
Heita is so-so, best part is decent dodge/counter good for taking out longies. also GUTS is great if you know when to use it.

>>6176262
>>6176178
didn't i say that like 100 posts ago? mac is awesomeness in dungeons.
but yes saito/saki maybe tomoka
sonnet/sayuri for healing
kyouko/yuuna for - enemy counter (usually don't use these though)

always carry touma for 10% exp.

>> No.6176520

>>6176435
I wish I knew...Yuuki has so much potential, but I've never been able to get his damage. SIIIIGH.

>> No.6176523
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6176523

>>6175968
I personally actually found her to be more useful than Burai. She comes with an item that halves damage (so effectively she has twice as much health), and can solo a group of Holy Knights and make short work of short ranged enemies.

>> No.6176544

>>6176523
Burai's problem is his relatively low damage. Yeah, he dodges more, but it takes him twice as long to kill anything and if you're using his skill, four times as much stamina. Once you hit the second half of the game, he's just there to give good units a breather. He's better as a defensive character, but there aren't too many uses for that.

>> No.6176552

>>6176519
Saito and tomoka are the ones actually worth to give exp to while having a great synergistic skill ontop.
Kyouko is strong too but her skill is relatively useless for macguyver. I would only put her on the dungeon team if I wanted to train her.

>saki, sonnet/sayuri, yuuna
Waste of exp in my opinion.

>always carry touma for 10% exp.
Agreed.

>> No.6176568

Why is it called Big Bang Age and not The Big Boss? I know it's Big Bang Age in Japanese but Daibanchou means The Big Boss. I've been confused about that for quite some time.

>> No.6176581

>>6176552
>saki, sonnet/sayuri, yuuna
>Waste of exp in my opinion.
me too, just saying that they help if you need it.
You don't really need kyouko or the others. I was assuming you wanted to finish the MOO! dungeon in a single go.

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6176615

>>6176568
Daiakuji before daibanchou

>> No.6176642

>>6176615
Oh shit, I just looked at the getchu of that. The girls look like delicious waifus.

Do you think I could work my way through that game in blind if I already know how everything works in big bang age?

>> No.6176655

>>6176519
>Saki
>waste
More so than Saito? I won't say that Saito is bad, because he has great stamina, decent stats and a highly useful ability.
But what is wrong with Saki? I know she is one of Erika's groonies, but she is far from being cast off just because of that.
Other than lower evade, and a slight set back in stamina (Saki still has decent stamina), she starts out better than Saito in all fields. And unlike Saito, who is recruited in the national chapter, Saki and the gang is recruited in the very beginning, and frankly, if you just use her throughout those two chapters she should be more than twice as good as Saito at the time of the national chapter.

>> No.6176679

>>6176655
Saito is really amazing in Kunagi route. He simply owns Holy Flame knights and has high stamina.

>> No.6176705

>>6176679
Doesn't that depend solely on how you played?
His stats starts out worse than Saki's, and he is recruited far later in the game while Saki have had the chance to level up over and over again.

I used Saito as well, but mostly as a defense type character, and later he ended up in my Kyoko/Yuuna crew due to his high stamina and being a range type and all, but I never used that team much so he stayed kind of below par.

But it never really bothered me, because at the time of the holy flame, Saki could oneshot them due to her high attack.

>> No.6176718

>>6176642
No. Economy works completely differently. Combat's the only thing that's the same.

>> No.6176747

Shit, I've just realized that for 3 days I read the title of this thread as "Rather Large Baggage."

>> No.6176758

>>6176705
>His stats starts out worse than Saki's
No, his stats are superior in everything. Saito has an additional type advantage as well.

>> No.6176784

>>6176373
Is that a 1st playthrough stat?
Or do you have clear bonuses added from previous game?

Additionally, you probably have him powered up with all the stars cleared, which can only happen at the end of the game (so it's not really comparable), I will take those stats with a grain of salt.

>> No.6176801

I was the original poster about the mac dungeon thing. Both are good. I just said you don't NEED both, cause I was replying to a guy that said he would rather distribute the exp to better caras.

saki give 10/20 evasion after getting a certain star.
saito gives 15
both good, best together. with senna or kunagi.

>> No.6176808

>>6176655
I never used Saki so much anyway since Kendo and Shizuri is superior to all the other 4 combined.

>> No.6176815

>>6176758
Hmm, yes you are right.
I just deluded myself into believing she startet out with 18 attack.
But 14 still ayn't that far behind 16, and she does have higher HP.

She should still be superior than Saito in every way by the time of the national chapter though, other than stamina that is.

>> No.6176840

Saki's hit rate is about as bad as Tamari's. Two characters with shitty Hit, and you only have 1 Sonosheet...
That's also why I just go for Kendo.

>> No.6176867

Ren or Kyouko?

>> No.6176883

>>6176867
Good mid range vs good long range. Decide yourself.

>> No.6176905

>>6176815
Saito needs almost no exp to level at the start, so he blasts by her without any issue. Why doesn't the wiki have starting level/exp anyway?

>> No.6176912

>>6176808
this. always got kendo. i might switch now that i think about it, saito+saki might be good with senna.

>> No.6176914

>>6176867
Ren's an average unit and a pain to clear. Kyouko is easy to clear and comes with Yuuna, who is useless for combat other than her debuff, but has next to no pay and her loyalty never drops, so you can just dump her wherever you need more noncom.

>> No.6176920

>>6176912
Identical skills don't stack. There's actually a bug that stops both from taking effect depending on how units are deployed

>> No.6176921

>>6176784
Yes, it's a 1st playthrough. My one was horrible and I restarted, so, technically, it's a 2nd. But, 1st playthrough so far as the game is concerned.

As for stars, I only have 3 cleared. I still haven't even gotten him to Super Heita yet. I'm only at turn 65 as well. I'm still not in combat with the Flaming Faggots (though, it IS just 1 turn away).

But, I'm sure I've gotten pretty lucky with him too. However, I do still think you should give him another try.

>> No.6176930

>>6176840
Early on Shorko makes hit obsolete, not only for them but for everyone in the region.
And frankly, late game Hit doesn't matter, because everyone who have leveled enough will score Hit stats great enough not to miss against anyone except certain rare/odd units, and then there's Shorko who once again makes Hit obsolete anyway.

Either way, Erika isn't bad, she is on par with Kendo if one ignore's Kendo's atk x1.5 skill.
But Erika grants more units overall and more stamina, a hit and evade boost.
And her higher evade/counter plus Saki's and her own skill makes her a really reliable unit.
And frankly, Kyuudo isn't that great and is comparable to the groonies.

And while Shizuri is great, Comet is still decent, and it's still 3 characters vs 4, and stamina is an issue as well.

But I really would say that it's balanced.
The Kendo "route" has stronger solo units
The Erika "route" has stronger team units

But for an example, if I were to wage war on all nations at once, I would prefer Erika's route because they make everyone into more capable units, net more stamina and regains it faster (because of they are to begin with) etc etc
Otherwise Kendo's route is "stronger".

But I would still call it balanced.

>> No.6176957

Oh shit, Kinako's hit rate is also pretty darn low, what the hell...
I was thinking she might be good to try, but....Low HP and low hit is so discouraging for a mid range.

It's like I've taken 90+ hit stats for granted ;_;

>> No.6176967

>>6176957
She isn't that great and she runs out of steam real fast.
3 stamina what's that?

>> No.6176974

>>6176930
they should have made an hscene with

senna and shizuru. then another with iori and kendo too.

>> No.6176977

>>6176967
>>6176957
Indeed, her starting stats are definitely off putting. But, if you stick with her (and you've got a bit of luck on your side), she can be a great one-shot one-kill unit.

>> No.6177016

>>6176930
The thing is, Saito can pretty much hold his own even against vampires who has type advantage against him.
Saki? She would get owned by the vampires with her low hit.

>Early on Shorko makes hit obsolete
Yeah...but I'm kind of iffy about giving exp points to her when she has such awful stats. (seriously, to put it into perspective, even generics have way better stats than her...)

But if I ever make a game where I have Tamari, Saki and Kinako, I guess Shoko will have a good use in that group...

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6177041

We'll need a new thread na no da~~

>> No.6177607

i'm fighting the holy flame right now and the dark rougas are making my troops move out of terriorties, how do i stop it?

>> No.6177627

>>6177607
You own them with a real Rouga.

>> No.6177700

>>6177041

Why can't you fuck her dammit

>> No.6177717

>>6177700
And she's over 18, too!

Is she actually good for anything aside from other characters' clears?

>> No.6177748

Hey guys I've captured around 10 places in the national chapter, and I don't have enough units to deploy in every place to maintain order, what do? Just recruit generics like crazy?

>> No.6177750

>>6177607
>>6177627
no not that, when i attack/defend a territory without rouga. the fake on goes and tells my troops to leave/fall back.

>> No.6177772

>>6177748
Law doesn't matter for shit. Ignore it.

>Just recruit generics like crazy?
That's not economically viable. When a city has a yellow skull, just click Restore Order button and pay 10 bp.

>> No.6177781

>>6177748
That or join the Hanny Cult, where you'll get superior generics for free that also have 0 BP cost and permanent loyalty.

>> No.6177805

>>6177750
You just need to have Rouga stationed in the area where he does this.

It won't work the first time, but it'll work the 2nd time.

>> No.6177809

>>6177750
I've only been through the game once, so I'm not sure, but you have to station Rouga with the rest of your attacking troops so that he stops Dark Rouga if he tells your units to fall back in that region. (be prepared to fight, though)

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