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How can I not suck at Touhou? I can't get past the 4th level of EoSD on Lunatic, I use up about one continue per level.

>> No.6136845

Hold shift for focused movement

>> No.6136852

You move too much.
You don't focus enough.
You fly into bullets you've already dodged.
You don't bomb enough.
You don't try enough.
You try to dodge bullets which wouldn't hit you anyway.
You move away from the bullet (dodge) not just as much as you need to (a few pixels), but whole spritelengths.
You try to collect point/score/UFOs and are killed for it.
You don't stream.
You hug the bottom.
You don't try different approaches when your way doesn't work.
You give up too easily.
You lack endurance.
Your attention span is too short.
You don't like STGs.
You don't reflect on your mistakes.

Once you've found your problem, work on it, you should stop sucking.

>> No.6136857

It's okay if you can't beat Patchouli.

Also, MEMORIZATION

>> No.6136869

>>6136839
>I use up about one continue per level.
I'm so mad right now.

>> No.6136987
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6136987

Use some pills

I use nootropes and trying to gen amphetamins

>> No.6136992

OP

stop using the keyboard

use a controller, derp

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6137000

How can I not suck MW2 online?

>> No.6137002

Well, you're playing on Lunatic, what do you expect? Just play normal or hard more and get comfortable instead of bombing everything in Lunatic.

>> No.6137003

>>6136852

What's stream?

>>6136869

And why are you mad?

>> No.6137021
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>>6136857
>patchy
>hard

>> No.6137035

>>6137003
You're playing at a difficulty you obviously can't handle, using continues and wondering why you suck.

Play Normal Mode. Once you've cleared that, you can move on to Hard/Lunatic.

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>>6136852
>You move too much.
Maybe
>You don't focus enough.
Probably not
>You fly into bullets you've already dodged.
No
>You don't bomb enough.
I use a ton of bombs.
>You don't try enough.
I don't know what that means
>You try to dodge bullets which wouldn't hit you anyway.
No
>You move away from the bullet (dodge) not just as much as you need to (a few pixels), but whole spritelengths.
Yes.
>You try to collect point/score/UFOs and are killed for it.
No
>You don't stream.
what?
>You hug the bottom.
Yes.
>You don't try different approaches when your way doesn't work.
>You give up too easily.
>You lack endurance.
>Your attention span is too short.
>You don't like STGs.
I just started playing it yesterday.
>You don't reflect on your mistakes.
That's what I'm trying to do right now.

>>6136869
Why you mad though?

>> No.6137052

>>6137035
And by clear I mean without using continues. Clearing with continues isn't clearing a Touhou game.

>> No.6137073

>>6137038
>>You don't stream.
what?

90% of the bullets in lunatic, and that's specially true in EoSD, are aimed at you. Streaming consists in moving slowly to the side in order to avoid the bullets aimed at you. When you are close to the wall, you need to create a gap by moving fast, and then start moving to the other side to keep dodging the bullets aimed at you.

That's something basic that is used in almost every STG.

>> No.6137080

>>6137038
"Streaming" is when you dodge a series of aimed attacks (bullets that are fired to your current position) by moving incrementally to one side, causing a "stream" of bullets to pass harmlessly to your other side. "Streaming" is also an adjective describing attacks that can be streamed.

>> No.6137116

>>6137073
Is there video of this technique?

>> No.6137134

>>6137116
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd7sC9iaCo8

>> No.6137140

>>6137116
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEyKcTKQ-r0

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>>6137134
>>6137140
Thanks.

>> No.6137207

>>6136839
>How can I not suck at Touhou?
Do it like I do it: Don't play

>> No.6137259

This reminds me of a question I had. I've always hated getting passed Cirno's Icicle Fall. I eventually got lazy and just bomb passed it so I've never learned how to get passed it without just bombing. Everyone always says to just get up close to her and she can't shoot you but she always shoots me point blank with these green balls and I'm so close I don't have time to dodge.

So my nephew was playing EoSD a few weeks ago and he refused to play Normal, he chose to play easy which is something I've never done and Cirno doesn't shoot those green balls in your face on easy.

Have I been trolled by anons who are giggling at giving advice for passing Cirno that only works on easy or do I simply suck?

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6137279

how can I not suck against Sakuya?

>> No.6137318

>>6137259
Yes she only does her baka pattern on easy modo.

>> No.6137337

>>6137318
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsdWCmxz108&feature=related

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>>6137279
The only card I can't capture on Normal for Sakuya is Misdirection.

I guess I just ain't getting the trick behind it.

>> No.6137378

>>6137346
That one is actually easier to capture on hard than it is on normal. I've managed a couple of captures, but its a tricky one; if I want to 1CC I'll just bomb it usually.

>> No.6137398

>>6137378
You know, if you just time out her non-spell by hugging the top of the screen, you skip the spellcard and it saves you a bomb.

>> No.6137400

>>6137259
If you do want help with that, watch a replay. It just needs good timing in when to slip through the bullets coming from the sides, push up to the top of the formation, back into the centre, and then down again.

>> No.6137420

>>6137398
But wouldn't you miss out on an extra life then?

>> No.6137427

>>6137346
I couldn't capture it until someone told me to stay still...

goddamn.

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>>6137427
Well fuck me, it worked.

No I just need to figure out how to 1cc Fairy Wars on normal.

>> No.6137543
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6137543

I just tried it on normal and I still get killed by Patchy. I didn't use a continue until China, but I used up all of them during level 4.

>> No.6137605

>>6137510
Graze to charge your freeze.

>> No.6137629

>>6137510
Freeze, freeze, freeze. And don't give up. In one of my 1CC (I thin it was B-2), I made it to the fairy trio with barely 100% motivation and one perfect freeze. I ended the fight with 300% motivation.

>> No.6137665

Numb your body with chemicals, and a happy tummy.

you are the touhou, and grazing is how you stay alive.

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>>6137543
Well, it took me a while to make it to stage 6 in all the games without continuing, and then longer to capture spell cards instead of mass bombing.

I still suck at hard, stage 4s are about as far as I can make it.

>> No.6137852

Protip: Don't look at your character, look towards middle of screen and have a feel for where your character is

Double Protip: GO CROSSEYED

>> No.6137870

>>6137804
It's ok. Take it easy and do your best.

>>6137852
Squinting can help you refocus on the movements of the danmaku if you get overloaded trying to follow everything.

>> No.6137878

>>6137852
No, that's the best way to catch the syndrom of the ghost bullet. It's when you die from a bullet you didn't even know it existed. It's very frustrating.

Depending on the spellcard, you might need to look at the area around your hitbox, the area above your character, the are at the side of the screen, etc...

>> No.6137915

>>6137852
Adjusting your focus to take in the whole pattern at once is an advanced technique. It's a BAD idea for a beginner to try it.

You always need to start by tightening your focus to just your character, and then slowly expanding.

Of course, specific needs vary depending on whether you're dealing with a concentration or spread pattern.

>> No.6137987

>>6137259
>Have I been trolled by anons who are giggling at giving advice for passing Cirno that only works on easy or do I simply suck?
Yeah, that's the joke. Cirno's Icicle Fall has no chance to hit you at all...as long you're playing on easy mode.

>> No.6138017

>>6137346
Misdirection is simple. Move opposite the direction Sakuya appears to move. Don't move while the knives are being aimed.

>> No.6138337

What do you mean by "capturing spellcards"?

>> No.6138348

>>6138337
You finish it without using a bomb, getting hit, or timing out (except on survival spellcards).

>> No.6138368

>>6138348
What is the benefit of doing so?

>> No.6138371

>>6138368
Scoring points.

>> No.6138373 [DELETED] 

I'm wondering why nobody has said to properly beat a touhou game it must be a 1cc meaning no continues. Also OP, be sure to be using default lives.

>>6138368
Score and the satisfaction of knowing you truly beat it.

>> No.6138379

>>6138368
Points, bragging rights, and sometimes there's stuff like unlocking Phantasm after capturing 60 spellcards or getting a life fragment for not dying against a boss attack in SA.

>> No.6139571

I tried doing Lunatic without using bombs and only got to Cirno.

How are you supposed to avoid her crazy-moving icicles?

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