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Aliasing artifact moe~

it's a limit with the current hologram technology, it's not as noticable when Miku isn't doing full body movement and when the camera is further away, but when the camera is closer and Miku does full body movement you see major A/A problems.

>>6072584
>hologram

It's not a hologram, just a fucking transparent anti-glare screen.

In some parts of the video, even with high motion and closeups, there were no aliasing issues. In other parts, it was totally fucked.

>>6072593
except at the end there are people walking through that area, with miku still there

The pixels are deliberate to make her appear digital and artificial

anyone got a link for a torrent of this?

>>6072609
They stood on the sides, idiot. Get your eyes checked.

>>6072633
depends if you want the 720P or the 1080P
Nyaatorrents is down but K1 has the torrents mirrored in attachments for members and DHT is enabled for the torrent.

>4.4GB for a 2 hour concert at 720P

Jesus fucking Christ. Who the hell encoded this?

>>6072668
So if I get a DVD authoring program, can I fit the 1080P on a single DVD?

>>6072668

An idiot. They used Blu-ray compatible settings for the encode, which are completely unnecessary because it isn't being fucking authored to a Blu-ray disc (and wastes enormous amounts of space).

>>6072699
The 1080p rip is >20GB. You can reencode it to fit on a DVD, but expect to have it to look/sound like shit.

>>6072708

A DVD is more than large enough for a decent Blu-ray rip. And sound? Is FLAC not enough for you?

Link to 1080p version pleaseeee

so where can i get this? nyaa will not load....

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CV9XXCOD
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=035GD660

>>6072744
dont you have to join the files or something

>>6072759
7-zip opens it fine

>>6072764
ok thanks for info

>>6072576

>Bizarrely enough, as per the image on the right, they got it right in some parts...
To answer the OP's question, there are two separate Miku models used in the concert. In the OP pic, the one on the right is the Virtual Diva model used in the games. One assumes she is vectored and as such is entirely without pixels even when zoomed in, though she does have jagged edges as a result.

The one on the left is the Miku made with updated Virtual Fighter software. (Seriously, that's what a documentary in Japan told us about this concert.)
This Miku has smooth, silky hair, but not designed to be zoomed in.

The reason they used two separate models was that they were going to choose one or the other. But they found out that the Virtual Diva is better at body movements while the Virtual Fighter was better at facial expressions. There was no clear winner so they used both of them mixed together at different parts of the concert.

>>6072786
There are also major difference in term of textures. the VF one is arguably more detailed and much less "blocky".

w... would you guys like to watch it with me?

www.livestream.com/shimapantsu

>>6073464
I had to doubletake before realizing what the hell she was doing

It doesn't look that bad OP.

>>6073464
Is she trying to suck her own cock or something?

>>6072744
Thanks
Is there a megaupload link to the 1080p version?

>>6073631

I haven't seen one yet. Keep an eye on this..

http://kureha.no-ip.org/k1/index.php?topic=473

Requesting 720 link please.

>>6073679
see >>6072744

>>6073670
thanks again

for all it's flaws it's still a technological marvel that they pulled this off so well. a live band keeping in sync with a pre-rendered vocal synced to a pre-rendered performer projected for a live audience- a lot could've gone horribly wrong.

lots of credit to that band, many of those songs sound better than the original recordings.

i'm uploading a subtitle file to go with:
>>6072744
here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?s4ogj2rdxba7245

>>6074038
Chinese?

>>6074105
and japanese

>>6074114
I don't find any option to change the language.

Why is she smiling and dancing seductively while singing dear?

>>6074129
top is chink, bottom is jap.

>>6074137
Strange, both the texts are Chinese on mine. Worked fine after I reinstalled my codec though.

>>6074131
because SEGA

>22 GiB

dear lord,

>>6074204
idk, works fine for me here in mplayer, as seen in my earlier cap

>>6073464
The first thing I thought when I saw that was "mmm... a turkey with some panties"

...what?

Torrent link for 720p please.

>>6074397
i was on teh torrent, its shit slow, just use the megaupload links and the media fire link

bamp

I was semi-disappointed after seeing it in 720 how blocky some of the parts were. They made it worse by zooming in, and often they got high camera angels that refleted the entire crowd which was distracting. There were a few brief times where they had a shot from audience level and the "screen" she was on was crystal clear, I wish they would have done more of that.

Overall it's still pretty damn badass though. Was planning on actually purchasing a BD, but really the extra quality isn't worth it... still awesome though and of course you can't expect something like this to go flawlessly when it hasn't been used much.

I don't really see any reason for you to go with 1080 over 720 though, if you were debating, save the hard drive space imo.

22 GB 1080p? Is this just the BDISO or what?

the one on the right isn't even CG, it's vectored in game footage....

overall this is a very awesome idea. but it could be much more awesome. they could have had those MF like instant clothes change/henshin/all kinds of visual effects but guess they didn't have the budget.

I kinda wonder how the screen works, the people standing in the back would see their backs right?

what the fuck a singer that doesn't exist had a live gig with full audience and sold-out tickets?

Oh, Japan.

captcha: portance oregai

the important question is
did they render her panties as wel?
and were they green shimapan?

>>6075052
you do realize miku is probably no faker than your average overhyped pop singer whose voice in songs is 90% synthesized and tuned and self-advertises by producing scandals, right?

>>6075057

This.

Also, I was really pleased with the DVD. I thought it was great. My body wasn't ready for the bikini track.

My torrent is done in another ten minutes and I'm really looking forward to this. I've watched the Niconico rip a few times and Miku was very mesmerizing, though I think they could've done a better job at choosing some of the songs; many good ones weren't in there.

Luka was absolutely amazing, all her songs were good, and dat stage presence. Miku felt more expressive overall but Luka brief appearance out of no-where just blew me away.

Too bad Rin and Len were horribly disappointing in contrast to Luka. Their models looked kinda awkaward (though Rin more so than Len I guess) and the live-version of their songs was kinda meh.

As for Miku's models I really prefer the new model over the old one, I have to say; the new one looks so alive and her movements are just lovely. The old one is nice too I guess, but it very choppy when compared to the new one.

I hope I can overlook the flaws in the high quality version. I'm still kinda planning to buy the DVD, I'll see if I can afford it.

Pro tip: The show was intended for human eyes at the actual site. The illusion "does" work recorded like this, but the illusion was made for the people.

In other words, it looked a lot better.

>>6075057
Cause, you know, none of the extremely beautifully songs made by quality producers had any sort of influence on her popularity, right?

Don't plant her on the same boat as the real thing you flipping ignorant faggot.

>>6075641 here

Watching it ATM, and while I'd prefer that the camera didn't zoom all the time and would stay at the same place longer the only thing that has really bothered me so far is the sound recording.

Miku's voice seems like it's been added in afterwards and it drowns out both the musicians and the crowd. Like when she was performing Popipo (and yes, I hate them for not including a longer version of the track) you could hear the crowd singing with her yet you could barely hear them. What's the point of watching a live recording when you can't hear the sound of the crowd or the live band properly? Not to mention it's not very flattering when the Vocaloid voices don't blend with the music.

It's not horrible or anything but it could have been better. I'm enjoying the visuals though; I'm sure it looked better live but this is still quite impressive.

>29.970FPS
>sure is PRO encoder here

Did anyone else rage at this guy? The biggest fucking leek thing in the crowd and he's right in front of Miku on a lot of the camera shots.

>>6075986
He said yesterday he doesnt know anything about encoding, that we should wait for something better if we want a good encode.
Also he is from /a/.

Does anyone have the megaupload links posted in the previous thread?

>>6076121
See: >>6072744

By the way, I made a quick comparison of the two 720p rips currently availables, and it seems to me that the 1,80GB rip made by the anon actually looks better than the 4,38GB one.

Here's a snapshot of the rip that can be found on Nyaa (4,38GB).

>>6076369
And here, a snapshot from the anon's file (1,80GB).

I don't know anything about encoding to be honest, but I'll probably just keep this one. Also, the sound quality might be a little different, but it doesen't justify a 2GB difference between the two files.

This is so fucking retarded. Touhou, fine, VN's, fine, cosplay, fine, but this... thissss.....

>>6076392

Hater gonna hate

>>6076392
The people attending the concert are probably all secondary miku fans.
Probably the same people that go MIKU KAWAII XDon youtube and such.

>>6076392
What's wrong with it, idiot?

I personally find the cosplay threads the most annoying and hypocritical out of any of them.
>EWWW ITS 3D ITS GROSS 3DPIGDISGUSTAN MARISAGETOUT.jpg
>Oooh, wow she's pretty. Who is she? Oh what? 3DPD? Nahhh, it's okay since she's cosplaying touhou now.

>>6076408
It's funny you say that, because you're probably a secondary touhou fan or whatever else you're here for, or worse.

>>6076423
I probably spent more time in STB and DS compare to you listening to miku songs.

>>6076435
Congratulations, you're right, I don't listen to Miku at all or ever cared for her. Bravo. But I bet my dad can beat your dad.

>>6076453
Why are you so hostile? I was only insulting those MIKU KAWAII XD faggots and their ilk.
Are you perhaps one of them?

/a/ here.

Stop posting this fucking garbage dildo sucking shit there.

thanks

>>6076387

Looks like the Nyaa one was horribly deinterlaced.

>>6073464
DA FUCK AM I WATCHING?

>>6076618
i'm downloading both to find out for myself, but the 1800mb one did seem to show a lot of compression in the video, im gonna see if the 4.4gb one is better or not

Ewwww i believe im going to stick with the nico broadcast version

>>6077034
troll harder

Just finished this. Are they doing another one like this in the future? I want to more 3D Miku. ;_;

I wish they'd do this for Idolm@ster too. ;__;

someone knows the name of the song in minute 47?

>>6076408
I hope you're either trolling or can explain to me what a "primary" Miku fan is supposed to be.

>>6077286
if u dl the sub fle, it shoulud say

Does anyone have an mp3 rip or version of this?.

>>6077318
Someone that got into Miku because she was cute and listens to only the most popular songs on youtube and such vs. someone that listens to albums and follows producers and such. Basically the people that think Miku is that cute girl with the leek rather than thinking of her as a musical genre. My guess, not the poster you were quoting.

>>6077286
裏表ラバーズ

>>6077842

Because it's a well known fact that popular songs are only popular because they are absolute garbage, and that no one who really likes artist/genre will ever listen to the popular songs. Thank you for reminding us anon.

>>6077180
?Just finished this. Are they doing another one like this in the future? I want to more 3D Miku. ;_;
This is the 2nd concert. There should be another one next year, on the 9th of March. That's 184 days to go.

>>6077180
>Just finished this. Are they doing another one like this in the future? I want to more 3D Miku. ;_;
This is the 2nd concert. There should be another one next year, on the 9th of March. That's 184 days to go.

>>6078507
Yeah they'll do another concert next year to promote the next game.

>>6077318
Autistic trolling stemming from the retard touhou section of the fanbase. Simply pay no mind to it.

>>6077318
I think he's implying that the only real fans are songwriters.

>>6077286
18.) “Ura-Omote Lovers” (Performer: Hatsune Miku)

The "magnet" song on this concert is fuckin' badass" Hell, everysong on thos concert sound so much better than the originals.

>>6077842
>Miku
>musical genre
she's a "musical genre" about as much as "songs with female singer" is one. That was pretty retarded.

Much more apt to think of Vocaloid as a musical instrument - like enjoying music with Latin guitar in it or something. I wouldn't even just label it as a vocal style, as many of the better producers push the voice banks past what's possible for a live singer in subtle or unsubtle ways.

Watching the concert again reminded me of how shafted the twins got, especially Len. The 3D models were half-assed compared to Miku and Luka, the song count and selection was pretty poor... What's the point of Rin singing Kokoro solo instead of bringing Len out to do the infinitely superior duet version? I've got some high hopes for next year's concert though, since Len/Rin Append will be out and their popularity should be on a rise right about then.

I don't like the Vocaloid style and almost all their songs I've heard just haven't done it for me. But I'd go to this concert anyway. At least it's not some kind of goddamn post-ironic hipster bullshit.

>>6081693
I guess animating with motion capture takes time and money, Since they weren't part of the main dish they got shafted.
Think of it like a test trial.

>>6081693
I disagree. Kokoro-kiseki wasn't even made by ToraborutaP and the quality of production was pretty poor compared to the original, regardless of Len's capacities.

But I can only agree about the 3D models.

>>6081693
Als, I don't think the twin appends will be uot before march, and even if it does they will never have the time to produce something popular enough to figure into the show. I think they will use older songs. I'd like to see a live Tengaku/Out of Eden/Iroha Uta
And I still want my Vocaloid1 songs

>>6081716
The problem is that there's a million mixes of Kokoro-kiseki out there, ranging from shit to better than the original - sound wise. Taking the lyrics into consideration, there's absolutely no reason to ever listen to a solo arrangement of that song once you've found a duet version that you like. Hearing it solo anymore sounds unbalanced and off to me.

>>6081719
I thought our latest news was for year end... fuck, no, it was 'due in about a year' - making it July/August next year, so we can't really expect anything at next year's concert. They really ought to just make it longer and add more songs for non-Miku 'loids. I'm sure they can justify the cost from how fuckawful packed it looked in the crowd.

I feel pretty stupid, I felt pretty moved the entire time thinking "Isn't that great, you got to do a live with people even if you're a fictional character".

Writing songs seems like a lot of fun, too bad I have no musical talent/taste.
Have some of their songs been made by amateurs or is it all big corporate productions?

>>6081725
Pretty much all the songs are by no name producers. A few have started making their name in the music industry (slowly) based partly on the NND following that their Vocaloid stuff has, but for the most part Crypton and all them just sell the software, and it's all consumer/fan content that you're hearing and watching on NND and youtube.

I know its just a projection onto a screen, but since I know nothing about this sort, was she actually somewhat 3D? like people who were standing at the side, did they see the side of her?

Most probably not, and that sucks because only the people watching right infront of the screen got to see it properly, the rest would see some weird flat image.

>>6081762
It was projected onto glass. I think that it has a pretty wide angle that you can view it from before it looks too wonky, it isn't like they just used a projector onto a white screen. If you pay attention during the video, you can see the light from the projectors, they're behind the glass panel projecting towards the audience.