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There isn't any.

They're all equally bad.

Back to masturbating over armpits.

TH1

SoEW.

Story of Eastern Wonderland was regarded as the worst by my friends when we still had contests to see who could get the highest scores on lunatic modes.

In before Suigin.

>>6054596
>In before Suigin.
>Suigin
>IN

hmm.

UFO

shitty mechanic is shitty

people are just trolling when they say IN is the worst right

because it's probably my favorite

Imperishable Night

>>6054637
seconded.

>>6054639
That seems fitting for someone like you

I don't care for the Phantasmagoria games, they aren't terrible, but it goes without saying they are my least favorite, I don't care for the game style, the whole two screen thing, I would rather a traditional danmaku shooter. Music from PoFV is excellent thought.

>>6054639
Don't feel bad IN is my favorite too.

You all will burn in hell for criticizing Touhou.

Imperishable Night? more like Terrible Abortion yeah i'm witty

>>6054639
>EVERYONE WITH A DIFFERENT OPINION MUST BE A TROLL BECAUSE MY OPINION IS DEFINITELY UNQUESTIONABLE TRUTH.

This is basically what you sound like right now. Just saying.

Also, Fairy Wars is worst in my opinion.

>>6054698
no, not quite

anyway I've heard more than once that IN is for "casuals" which sure sounds like /v/ trolling to me

Sadly EoSD is my least favorite windows touhou due to the gameplay feeling too much like a pc-98 game and the lack of enemy marker at the bottom of the screen

>>6054709
>>6054709
The main reason most people dislike IN is because it IS too easy.
Seriously, if you're using Reimu+Yukari, there isn't a single time in which you can not deathbomb. You probably have much more than half a second to press X when you get hit, and that time only gets bigger when you have more lives.

I know that having so much content (branching paths, different stage 4 boss depending on who you're using, spell practice and last words) makes it awesome, but that one single flaw makes it way too easy.

>>6054738
I would like to see another game with the team mechanic, I think that was pretty nice. Even knowing we will be bombarded with endless fanon shit.

>>6054738
well there are 3 other touhou pairs you can use besides Reimu+Yukari

>>6054738
Border team makes the game boring, shame on you for not using awesome SDM and ghost teams

I think IN is the Touhou ZUN got right. There are a lot of good team choices, I find Reimu/Yukari the most balanced and best overall, it is a little on the easy side for a Touhou game but it can offer a greater challenge based on what team you pick and what difficulty you play at. Overall all it is a good game, it is good for people new to Touhou but still fun for Lunatics too. I don't see why everyone hates it?

>>6054738
Then Don't use Reimu and Yukari, use Sakuya and Remilia or something, everyone uses Reimu and Yukari and that is why no one is challenged by IN. It is harder if you use different teams!

>>6054749
Real men use magic team.

>>6054753
>Reimu/Yukari
>most balanced

Hahahaha.

UFO

>>6054753
If by balanced you mean broken to a degree where you can just ignore the spawning enemies since they'll die before shooting anything anyway

>>6054767
depends on your idea of balanced. I regard the ideally balanced team as the team whose shot type and spread when focused and not focused are most conducive to make your game easier, assuming you want the game to become easier, not harder to win. If you are well seasoned with Touhou your definition might be slightly different. I use the definition objectively figuring that most people want the path of least resistance, not taking what difficulty level they are playing into account. I am looking at whether your shot type helps or hampers your game on any difficulty from easy to lunatic.

>>6054809
It doesn't matter. Border team has the best shoot overall. Your bullets are always hitting something even if you are busy dodging shit on the other side of the screen, it's ridiculous.

>>6054748
>>6054749
>>6054760
Still, the fact that the super easy mode option is there makes it the easiest game so far. I prefer using other teams, by the way.

>>6054761
Yup. And REAL real men use the magic team without Malice Cannon.

>>6054837
That's what I do.

>>6054831
I agree it is the best shot overall, and it is what makes the game easy, but what people aren't realizing is there are three other teams to play as, once you've played the game on Reimu/Yukari team and become proficient I'll bet people will find the game a lot more difficult when they switch to a different team, they will find the strategies the used with Reimu/Yukari to not work with other teams, that is where the difficulty lies. Other than Reimu/Yukari being grossly overpowered there is nothing else wrong with the game

>>6054837
>the easiest game so far

Someone needs to play Lotus Land Story.

All the games after PCB are bad. It's just the same shitty memory game over and over again. I only play the PC-98 games now.

Fuck you all. I can't beat IN on Normal even with border team.
The only thing I ever *have* beaten is PCB with Sakuya A and PoFV with Reimu.
And yes, I practice all the time. Almost everything. Fuck.

>>6054979

Keep practising. You have not practised enough.

IN is the worst. And fuck you, UFO haters. The creative and fun ufo system is awesome, even if it can be frustrating sometimes.

>>6054979

I've only beaten PCB with Sakuya A also on normal, but that was with continues so it's not really that big a deal. I almost beat EoSD but it doesn't count because for some reason it slows down during certain spellcards for some reason.

>>6054753

shit music

>>6055012
Turn the slow down off from the options / custom? Or shitty computer.

Guys, if you want to get better on Touhou, you need to practice alot. The main thing is to memorize everything, watching pros playing is good.

>>6054753
SHIT. MUSIC.

>>6055019
Point taken, although Mystia's theme, Stage 3 theme, Reisen's theme and Extra theme were nice.
But the worst music was EoSD, I don't know if ZUN used some weird sort of filters, but it tore my ears apart (except for Meiling's theme and Flandre's theme).

>>6055040
Point taken, although Mystia's theme, Stage 3 theme, Reisen's theme and Extra theme were nice.
But the worst music was EoSD, I don't know if ZUN used some weird sort of filters, but it tore my ears apart (except for Meiling's theme and Flandre's theme).

>>6055034

I tried fixing it but it still slows down. Which is strange because I can run other games without any slowdown problems. I don't know if practicing is helping any though. I actually died to Minoriko of all bosses today even though I've been practicing, and I used to be able to get to at least Momiji without bombing or dying.

>>6055073
Try using the vsync patch? Oh also if you didnt know, HOLD SHIFT FOR FOCUS

>>6055073
Force 60fps on?

I like IN the least. Maybe because it's so grimdark. The stages are boring too and the music is mediocre with a few glaring exceptions.
MoF is my favorite game. It's vibrant with great atmosphere, simple and fun. I love the music as well.

>>6055093

May try that. Also, I just suck at focus. Terribly.

>>6055109

Tried it but it still runs like shit.

>>6055110
Touhou can be grimdark and still good, see Mystic Square.

>>6055005
There are many bad things than the UFO system in UFO.
It's the worst.

>ctrl+f
>no "IamP"
>no "Immaterial"
SON I AM PROUD

Imagine if you lost 32 power every time you died in EoSD. That is what UFO is like.

>>6055144
>>6055132
So punishing players who die makes the game suck? UFO shows off some creative stage design, and the bosses are generally have more interesting patterns than the previous instalments.

>>6055201
UFO has excellent danmaku, but that doesn't matter if it's too unplayable for me to see it.

>>6054639
IN is definitely my favorite

Anyone still have the glorious random touhou plot generator from last night? I forgot to save it.

>>6054991
>Keep practising. You have not practised enough.

I'd say I am relatively good at dodging, collecting shit etc., I manage to get a good number of lives, bombs, time, I capture a shitload of difficult spells,
but then I get hit by that FUCKING SLOW BULLET THAT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO RUN INTO, or I'm like
"nah, won't waste a bomb on something this easy, gonna dodg-FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU".

Just to be sure, I tried it just now. Everything went perfectly, Stage 4 with six lives and a shitload of bombs,
took down Marisa's best spells, after Master Spark I'm all like "heh, this looks fine", and BOOM, three lives
one after another. Then died twice to the little fucker Tewi. Reisen, ANOTHER TWO LIVES, why, God,
why. Got to stage 6 with one life and no bombs, got assraped by Eirin's non-spell, kthxbye.

>>6055142
Iamp is shit

>>6055268
casual.

>>6055304
>Soku tourney fag
Fixed for ya

>>6055312
>Hisoutensoku
>Balanced
Oh you.

>>6055260
have you tried switching who you play as, I kept loosing with netherworld team, but I tried Marisa solo and 1cc'd it first try

>>6055260
Based on this information I can only ask that you try not to lose your head when things don't go according to plan or meet expectations. I'm guessing you lost those three lives to Earth Light Ray, but why one after another? Did you not slip a bomb in there because it would have felt like a waste after making one mistake, then another? How did you feel after the first miss?

Take it easy, have another go at it while you're still fresh unless you're worn out from previous things. One foul run on the first try shouldn't drain that much spirit.

>>6055325
>Iamp
>Balanced
LOL MASH WITH SAKUYA AND WIN
Aside from that, the game is pretty boring. The input speed and button-to-attack matching is horrible. They translated one of Marisa's standstill moves to a dash, even the creators know that the game was horribad.

Highly Responsive to Prayers....

So and to anyone who said that IN is the worst because it's easy doesn't know shit and can go fuck themselves because they haven't played the last word spells.
IN is probably the greatest game because it has the most effort. The music is amazing, the artworks are some of the best, it has the most danmaku patterns and there are 4(12) playable characters.
Also it brought us Mokou.

>>6055440

So and to anyone who said that IN is the worst because it's easy doesn't know shit and can go fuck themselves because they haven't played the last word spells.
IN is probably the greatest game because it has the most effort. The music is amazing, the artworks are some of the best, it has the most danmaku patterns and there are 4(12) playable characters.

and it brought use Kaguya

>>6055440
>>6055462
I second those

>>6055440
Having Last Words still doesn't change the fact that the main game is easy.
Post-game content is something entirely optional that doesn't get on the way of normally beating the game.

>>6055468
the game would be harder if you'd stop playing in normal mode

I really dislike Highly Responsive to Prayers. I haven't even bothered playing the fighting games.

>>6055490
I'm pretty sure that, usually, people judge the difficulty of a game based on how hard it is to beat it on the Normal difficulty. Saying that the game is hard on Hard and Super Hard is obvious and dumb. And even so, playing on Hard or Lunatic doesn't change the fact that Reimu/Yukari make the game easier than it should be.

Before you start saying that you should use other characters, please refer to >>6054837.

In the same vein, one could say that MoF is among the easiest games because of how many bombs you get there (I don't think that MarisaB being able to destroy everything there counts, simply because that wasn't intended).

>>6055532
I've not played the fighting games either

they seem complicated... all that button mashing in specific patterns

they look fun though

Mountain of Faith.

...takin' away my Master Spark, geez...

>>6055468

So... play on lunatic or something?

>>6055575
WHAT? MoF doesn't have a master Spark?

>>6055380
>>6055532

Why? It's great.

HARRY UP!

>>6055603
It's fucking Breakout, that's why.

>>6055561
Unless you can beat it on Lunatic you have no business complaining about the difficulty. It's not like anyone is forcing you to stick to Normal.

IN is the best designed Touhou game. A game's difficulty has no correlation to its quality anyway so people arguing about IN's difficulty are missing the point anyway, whether or not those arguments are settled.

>>6055711
The problem is not the difficulty, but the ease. With such long deathbomb times, there is not tension. It makes the game boring.

>>6055722
So? When you are abusing those deathbomb times, not only does it cost you TWO bombs but you got hit, which should be punishment enough. If your ONLY motivation to not get hit is the fact that you can't deathbomb, then shmups probably aren't for you anyway.

>>6055757
>"That guy thinks the game is shit, obviously his opinion is wrong and shmups aren't for him!"
SHHHH! YOU JUST REVEALED THE ENTIRE SHMUP COMMUNITY'S SINGLE RETORT FOR ANYONE WHO DOES NOT LIKE A SHMUP!

>>6055603

It's not really Danmaku though....

Great concept, but it's too easy to get hit with the Yin yang orb....

StB and PoFV are kind of shitty. I hardly touch either of them.

TH13 beta is a massive disappointment, I'm not even buying it next comiket.

IN is the worst out of the regular danmaku shooters.

PoFV isn't for me, but out of what I've seen and heard it isn't very good either. SoEW is probably worse than IN, but I'm blaming that on how it was the first danmaku and can't really compare to anything after it since ZUN didn't have danmaku experience before then. IN had PCB (and EoSD) before it, to compare to.