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Torrent where?

>>5931515
Nowhere

I'm feeling so trolled.

Fuck you, R07.

>てかもう紗音＝嘉音は確定だろ
Shannon = Kanon pretty much confirmed

So whos a man and whos a women now?

>>5931533
Okay, what does that even say and where are you getting this from and why is everything so fucking confusing dear god.

>>5931532
lolwat.

NOTHING has really been confirmed yet. At least, not until we get screenshots of this whole Leon/Jessica fiasco.

>>5931533
that means "setttled," not confirmed.

>>5931533
Sauce.

>Rion is Kinzo's and Beatrice's child

wut

Kinzo fucked moetrice?

>>5931510

>Jessica's a guy?!? (maybe)

>Lion is Beato and Kinzo's son, plus the baby from 19 years ago.

>Beato can't exist if Lion exists.

My fucking brain, ow.

"I love my life."

>>5931533
Thanks, but I don't read moon.

Care to not be an ass an tell me what the says?

>>5931543
Kinzo fucked moetrice. Moetrice was the "servant" who Natsuhi said fell off the cliff

>>5931552

It says "shannon = kanon is probably settled."

Kuwadorian Beatrice is Italian Beatrice's daughter with Kinzo.

>>5931560
So who was the Moetrice that Rosa saw?

>>5931571
The same moetrice. Except she was pregnant.

>>5931560

Then what the hell did Rosa see?

>>5931567
...But we already knew this. This was obvious.

Why does he have to explain things that are obvious yet leave important things ambiguous?

>>5931560
oh boy incest

Rosa is the culprit, George is an assistant and is using Shanon who he has been abusing.

Rosa needs money badly and her treatment at the hand of her siblings growing up has made her hate them. She sets up the Beatrice myth using Shanon through George. She intends to find the gold by making the survivors of the first twilight find it for her.

The reason George is assisting her is because he has grown to hate Battler, since he was close to Shanon in the past. His anger led him to abuse Shanon and brainwash her, the part that loves Battler still exists as "Beatrice" however Shanon works only for George. George's madness over Shanon has led him to put a bomb in the mansion. "If I can't have Shanon, no one will." Maria is also being tricked by her mother and Shanon and she has been the one with the envelopes the whole time, conveniently hidden in her purse.

>>5931574

But I thought Natsuhi saw the servant fall? Moetrice died right?

Rosa says she saw Beatrice fall off a cliff in episode 3, but there was no baby. So in episode 3 the man from 19 years ago exists, Natsuhi accepted him. But in episode 5 Natsuhi says Rosa was off the island at the time and both the baby and the servant died, so in episode 5 he doesn't exist. In alternates like this.

>>5931567

kinzo fucked his daughter?

Okay, that much makes sense.

In a world where Natsuhi accepts her substitute child, the legend of Beatrice dies out. Thus "Leon's existance killing Beato."

So basically Ryu took this for Umineko plot. <Good>.

>>5931586
THIS

>>5931589
BUH

WHAT

HOW WERE WE SUPPOSED TO

I'm really not buying the whole Jessica = male thing. Has it been 100% confirmed?

>>5931592
But if there's no more Beatrice, then surely there's no more Golden Land and then no more epitaph?

Then how is everything down to Battler's sin? Shouldn't it be Natsuhi's sin instead?

>>5931602
holy shit

So when should we expect an upload of the game?

>>5931589

I think I get it now. Rokkenjima has two variations.

This necessarily mean that EP 1-2 are alternates, since Tohya must have figured this out too.

>>5931613

No

>>5931613
2ch seem convinced that someone's been PAD-ing.

>>5931608
UMINEKO CONFIRMED FOR BRAIN PARASITE LEVEL UNSOLVABLE.

FUCK YOU RYUKISHI.

EP 7 is still superior to EP 6 though

>>5931622
In episode 2 the "special guest" is Lion. In episode 1 he isn't there.

>>5931622
>Rokkenjima has two variations.

Again. HOW!?

>>5931632
ITS MAGICAL FICTION.

I DON'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT

not yet clear whether Lion is men or woman

It's 9:38 am, and fuck it, I'm tired.

Good night/morning, ladies and gentlemen. Let's hope that pretty much everything is spoiled for us by tomorrow/the time we all awake.

Nothing confirmed yet, wait till the end.
So far it's just fantasy and meta-world bullshit

>>5931631
...Come to think of it...

Still, that hardly explains why the Legend of Beatrice still exists in Ep2, if he's alive.

You know, that scene where the baby dies with the servant is really vague. Natsuhi claims to have no memory of the sound of them hitting the bottom, like it was erased from her memory. I believe the beatrice/servant grabbed a hold of a branch just in time or something like that and saved herself and the baby.

>>5931631
Lion confirmed for cross-dressing trap.

Holy shit, original Beatrice

So rule Z = Leon being dead or alive.

>>5931632

You basically have to be as smart as this guy.

Sorry bro. He and Tohya have superior gifts.

Shit. 2 Rokkenjimas. Things are beginning to make sense.

What does Shannon refusing/accepting George have to do with things? That's another essential EP 1-2 difference.

>Jessica is a man
>Jessica having a bigger role in the story
>Jessica

God damn it ryukishi

>>5931654

wut

ryu sucks at picking colors

>>5931614
That confusing "everyone dies" with "Beatrice exists." The two don't necessarily have to follow sequence, though they're likely related.

>>5931654
what in the shit

RYUKISHIIIIIIIIIIII

So has Battler shown up at all in episode 7?

>>5931654

So white Beato instead of white Bern?

>>5931641
Good to know theres at least one Uminekofriend who shares a timezone with me.

Upload WHEN!?

>>5931640

Even Van Dine and Jessica have no idea if he's male or female. So sayeth the screenshot.

>>5931656
>Things are beginning to make sense.

...No they aren't. How do things make any more sense like this?

>>5931654
...Either Nazitrice or this is fake. I'm betting Nazitrice.

>>5931510
>>5931654

White dress, confidence.

>>5931654
GOOD GOD WHAT

>>5931661
You only figured this out now and not when he made Furfur's design?

>>5931654
.
Is this legit?
Really?

>>5931654
mmmmm minty.

>>5931654

Want fanart now

>>5931654

>>5931654
I fucking hate you Ryukishi.

>>5931665
nope, they're actually calling him all sort of names on 4chan asking if he appeared yet

Touhou 13 stage 4 boss confirmed

>>5931669
>>5931669
>>5931669

>>5931654
I'm sorry, run that by me again

>>5931684
you mean 2chan right?

>>5931687
That dress sure is ugly.

>>5931654

She's saying something about "My tale's everything" and "my heart" on a skim.

Also, she calls herself "waga" as opposed to "warawa" or "watashi," indicating humility and reverence.

What.

>>5931687

why so same colored

>>5931687
can someone translate?

>>5931687
What is that shit.

>>5931682
Will draw some now. @w@ desu

>>5931687
.....

>>5931687
Okay, I guess Nazitrice was fake but the idea behind her was not.

Good to know that Archer-Battler is fake, then.

>>5931687
THATS IT.

EP 7 CONFIRMED TO SUCK.

CALL ME BACK WHEN THE CULPRIT TURNS OUT TO BE KYRIE.

>>5931687
I'm...not sure how to feel about this.

But...wat...?

>>5931687
HER NAME IS CLAIRE BERNARDUS. VAN DINE'S WIFE AND A PORTRAIT ARTIST.

>>5931687
I swear he's just getting fucking lazy now.

>>5931698
What the fuck.

>>5931698
Okay, fake.

>>5931698
I'm cool with this though.

>>5931708
MY BRAIN IS FULL OF FUCK NOW

>>5931687
This night is so looong....
Will we survive it untill the end?

http://kourindou.exblog.jp/1444600/

ZUN is relevant.

>>5931708


...okay, that's who she is in real life.

Her thing says she was "born of Bernkastel" and that she has something to do with closed rooms and the murders. And as a result, "something called a witch doesn't exist."

OKAY, Ryukishi.
I'm quoting someone on 2ch.

"Bernardus is this"
http://kourindou.exblog.jp/1444600/

If you know that she is related to Bernkastel by some way...

>>5931716
No fake, it's Runon.
One of the servant who wasn't there.
Runon
Ru
Ru/Lucifer

>>5931708

Okay fake.

EP7 started out pretty cool

But now I am just fucking confused.

I mean, more confused that EP6 left me. And that's saying something.

>>5931715
>>5931716
2ch is speculating

"Runon" --> "Lu (ru)cifer"
"Manon" --> "Ma"mmon"
"Renon"--> "Le (re)viathan"

fuuuuuu

This. Episode.

She is basically Bern's version of Beatrice aka the tale.
She is the mystery.
It's normal that she doesn't consider herself a witch considering she was created by Bern.

"On servants are all stakes".

"Stakes are furniture."

"You should have been able to grasp this simple fact since before!"

>Ryukishi07

>>5931743
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

RYUKISHI

>>5931743
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>5931728
Don't take jokes as the real thing

>>5931743
NO

NO FUCKING WAY

WELP

dont worry 9999999 hours in MS paint has slightly fixed her.

i can't tell whats hair and what isn't

From 2ch
Satan = Sanon = Shannon
SNAPPP

As you can see, I foreshadowed it all along.

What do you think, everyone?

>>5931743
OH GOD OH GOD

HAHAHAHAHA OH MY FUCKING HEAD

>>5931752

And she's based on Dine's wife.

HMMMMMMM

Also, 4chan is telling me part of my comment isn't allowed, why is that? I'm just saying the two Rokkenjimas seem to be one of the core rules, and we should think it through.

>>5931743
So wait.....there's a possibility that there's an actual, physical Leviathan that Kyrie could've been in contact with?

I..my mind....not work.

>>5931752
Wait...so...how many versions of Beato does that make in all?

One...two...three...four...fivFUCK IT I CAN'T EVEN COUNT THEM ALL

>>5931762

WAT WAT WAT WAT WAT

>this entire thread

why are you shocked this is Bern's game.

>>5931757
Bernkastel also being related to wine, I seriously doubt that it is a coincidence. Yes, it's not important at all compared to other references, but still.

>>5931766
>>5931766

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKK YOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!

RYUKISHI, I THOUGHT THIS EP WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE US ANSWER
NOT THIS
JUST STOP MAKING NEW CHARACTERS, DAMN IT, IT'S PRETTY CROWDED ALREADY
FUCK YOU

wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
stakes are fuckable now????

>>5931762

He could have at least drawn new bodies. what about them being from NY? this pretty much means everyone is based on a real person. tons of new characters.

I AM LAUGHING SO HARD RIGHT NOW

WELL, THERE GOES MY PLANS FOR SLEEPING, THIS SHIT IS TOO HILARIOUS

Where are the Siestas?

Ryukishi confirmed for Bernkastel.

It makes sense guys.

I came here expecting to be trolled.

But not to this level. I got trolled about things which I didn't even know I could get trolled about.

Goddamnit Ryukishi.

So when the fuck will this be uploaded?

It's 6pm in Japan dammit... get to it.

Suddenly, i just want to cry in the corner.

紗音＝りおん＝クバベアト娘

don't feel bad /jp/

we are simply foreigners, and because the majority of us cannot speak/read fluent japanese, solving the mysteries was impossible for us. Not our fault japanese cant pronounce western languages for shit.

I'm playing this thread to fishy aroma. Feels good man.

I love Ryu so fucking much right now.

>>5931762
FUCK YES
Beelzebub X Gohda as a chance of working.
GOHDA COULD ACTUALLY END UP HAPPY, GUYS!

It's not really trolling.
The stakes are fantasy characters but it's normal that whoever created them had to get their appearances from somewhere.
Kinda like the bunnies whose appearance came from the dolls.

It's not really important though.

>>5931602
Well, about that...

You guys know what this means right?

Asmodeus = Anon

I am really not sure how to feel about all of this.

I don't feel trolled or anything. It's just...weird, that's all.

There, that's it. This episode is weird.

Remember when everyone looked forward to Bern's game because it was going to cut through all the bullshit

YOU GUYS WANTED THE TRUTH

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

R07 is THE fucking magnificent bastard.

Kyrie is the cukprit, Rudolf dicked all the Stakes & she caught him.
Murder ensues.

>>5931789
Siesta 556 was the one that fell off the cliff. ;_;

I JUST WANT TO SCREEEEEAAAAAAMM....
SOMEBODY HUG ME

i am confused with this Bernkastel and ZUN blog about wine thing.

someone explain?

>>5931823

GUYS

WITHOUT LOVE IT CANNOT BE SEEN

AM I RITE?

LOL

RRYUUUUUKISHHHHHIIIIIIII

>>5931822
who even cares about culprits anymore

what the fuck

I love umineko.

I feel stupid

>this entire thread

>>5931789
If my troll-senses have taught me anything, if the stakes are female servants, then the siestas are the male servants that Kinzo allowed to shoot guns with him.

As well as Kanon, who is technically a guy in as much as Jessica is.

BEST EPISODE EVER

I feel...I don't know how I feel.
My body was not ready for this.

I am so confused.

Hold me, anon.

So let me get this straight, it wasn't the effeminate maid cross dressing it was Jugasaurusrex?

You guys are shitting bricks over this?
You are weak.

To give a break from us getting trolled...

Where does Umineko keep it's saves in Vista?

Guess Witch Hunt better edit them to Lunon and Lenon in later patches, huh?

>>5931842
>then the siestas are the male servants

I love Umineko and I love /jp/ and I love love.

We've learned something important today. We learned to be patient. We learned that our bodies are never ready. We have learned, guys, and it's amazing.

spoilers: everyone dies

HEY BERN YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO MAKE THE MYSTERY CLEARER NOT ADDING MORE MINDFUCK KK?

>>5931865
Actually we have learned nothing yet.
Except from where the gold came from, only important revelation yet.

CONFUSION.

FUCKING CONFUSION EVERYWHERE.

This is exactly why I love Umineko.

>>5931762
They have Shannon's body sprites, all of them. This is either fake or... or, Ryukishi, you got laaaazy, even for you.

So yeah Erika is dead, but what happened to her game piece? She's part of the 17 people that was considered to be on the island at the time of the explosion right

>>5931871
You mean the one that was really damn obvious?

>>5931831
I totally want to cosplay this.
If it's even real.
Which I'm starting to believe.

>>5931867

But it is clear!

There are two Rokkenjimas all along! Ta-da!

This makes Ep2 really fucking interesting now.

紗音＝19歳
In Umineko Shannon is EVERYONE

>>5931872

OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK

>>5931881
That isn't very clear at all.

>>5931872
Okay, that one's fake. No icon in the upper left showing.

>>5931887
That's a fake that's been around for past episodes.

>>5931878

Erika is old news.

This is fun.

>2:09 AM

Shit...I'm so glad I stayed up for this.

>>5931877
The stakes were just different heads on the same body anyway, it's more of a lateral move.

Rosa confirmed for culprit.
Only she knows
1. Servants appearances (including those who absent)
2. How Maria's rabbits look like
3. Saw Moetrice
Magic characters are her interpretation based on memory.

>>5931872
old

>touhou got uploaded before Umineko

>>5931900
Does this mean we get Shannon in a stake uniform?

wait so is there an ep8?

Suddenly George culprit isn't as rage inducing as it was before...

>>5931878
She has never been on the island

Now shipping maid Mammon x loli Ange

>>5931905
Maids! Maids everywhere!

>>5931858
?
Seven, but I was under vista before, it was the same.
by the way, Programdata is hidden

>>5931881
I've got a nasty feeling that this will boil down to Rokkenjima-magic edition and Rokkenjima-mystery edition.

MY BODY WASN'T READY AFTER ALL!

>380 posts and 34 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

thread has been auto-saging for a while now. yet another topic?!?!?

Shannon = Beatrice is supposed to be denied, but the more spoilers I get the more it points towards it. Again.

The stakes respect Beatrice. Shannon is the servant that has served the longest time, the sempai..

Rion appears like Erika.

Meaning that there is a 1/1000000000 chance that there is a "world" where Natsuhi will accept him.
And Bern being the witch of miracle.

>>5931922

Thank you!

So, basically we had no idea what we were in for?

Ryukishi, you always manage to exceed my expectations. Excellent.

>>5931927
What?

>>5931927
disregard that, i fail, that's the old thread ~_~

>>5931930
Is this your speculation or has 2ch said it?

紗音が本体じゃなくてリオンが本体。
で、リオンの中に紗音、嘉音、ベアトがいたのか？

>>5931928
No, all it means is that Beatrice isn't the culprit.

Shannon is still clearly Beatrice.

>>5931942
What 2ch said

>>5931945

...Huh?

>>5931928
But they don't respect Shannon. Didn't one of them leech off her like a parasite by cutting corners? Those were Kanon's words anyway.

my brain hurts

Where is the UMG?

もとはクワドリベアトと金蔵の子
夏妃が受け入れた場合（何千万分の一の確率）＝りおん
落とした場合→実は生きてて福音の家へ→ヤス
1976年に使用人に。紗音＝ヤスにだけ見える。二重人格ではないみたい。

If the baby isn't dropped = Lion
If it's dropped = This "Yasu" person (the one the stakes maids are talking about) becomes a servant in the orphanage.
According to the poster, "Yasu" could probably be Shannon. So Kanon and Shannon are not the same person.

>>5931947
Beatrice was never the culprit. As was said in a previous EP, the murders aren't done for pleasure, they're being done to get Battler to remember his sin.

>>5931956
That explains why Shannon makes them her servants in her own fantasy.

>>5931956
Kinda like the stakes who all have their sins, like being LAZY

>>5931966
f.

>>5931963
UMG?
The Umineko Motion Graphic, right?

>>5931968
Two Rokkenjimas? No sense.

This? Sense.

>>5931969
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF STOP IT

>>5931956
Probably Mammon/whatever, considering that she actually makes her master work harder by taking it easy herself.

>>5931966
No, Shannon and Kanon are the same person.
It just mean that her/his head is even more fucked up as we thought.
In real life, someone with DID was thought to have more than 40 personalities anyways.

>>5931979
Don't you mean Belphegor who works hard so her master can take it easy?

>>5931966
Oh God, what. Am I the only one who is completly lost?

>>5931979
That's Belphegor, and she's supposed to do the opposite. Make her master a lazy pig by doing all the work for them.

>>5931966

Wait, what?

Yasu? Seriously?

Yasu is the culprit.

Hey guys i just arrived what is going on here?
Oh....Oh lawd....

>>5931989
Ah right. Sorry, my head is full of fuck right now.

Where the fuck is Battler!?

You know the entire post are filled with fake spoilers, shopped screen, and troll posts right?

Why the fuck would anyone got brainfucked by this?

DID Meido is true.
But it's somehow beautiful

>>5931969
Please Ryukishi. Please stop.

I know my body was not ready for this, but any more and it'll explode...

You know what? Fuck.

MAGIC EXISTS. There. Now everything can be explained without all this bullshit.

Umineko: Advanced trolling; the VN.

>>5931998
This makes even less sense.
THERE IS AN ISLAND FULL OF BUSTY SERVANTS, AND BATTLER SAYS 'NO, I'M NOT GOING THERE' FOR MOST OF HIS PUBERTY.
WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?!

>>5931988

Here.

>>5931589

Rokkenjima has two alternate background situations. EP 1 and EP2 are probably good examples, supposedly. I think Lion is the special guest (ie skirt Beato).

>>5932000
Fucking finally, an interesting character.

How to introduce new characters in Umineko:
Make the maid have even more personalities out of fucking nowhere

BEST PLOT EVER

>>5932019

I'm pretty sure that's just the default "female servant" uniform.

>>5932011
Trauma of being gangraped by them

>>5932007
Seconded, holy shit.

My head hurts from this rape.

>>5932011
BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY LOVES LOLIS. HE SPENT TIME WITH ANGE.

>>5932000
Wait, what? Gaap is Beatrice?
What.
What.

I guess R07 forgot about the whole murder thing

Did Beato die or some shit? Why does it look like Gaap is standing in a funeral home?

... So if Kanon appears on Rokkenjima, in a kakera where Rion is alive, Shkanon is false.

OKAY. PLACE YOUR BETS.

>>5932031

She died offscreen I think. Battler finally put her to rest since he's done. Presumably he's in a room weeping or something.

Ep7 is just Bern dicking around for Featherine's amusement.

>>5932033

Oh god, please, please let Kanon appear.

mystery? what mystery? fuck the mystery have some meidos

I was wondering...where do the servants go when they're not on duty?

I am glad I decided to stick around and not go in hiding in case of spoilers.

>different witches in past episodes up until now
>EVA
>ANGE
>LION

>EVANGELION

congratulations for all this DEEP trolling

>We know the servants arn't the culprits.
>Leon/Lion rapes so many people and is the older brother of Jessica.
>Jessica might be a man (with psuedoasthma!)
>Battora seems nonexistent along with the rest of the cast.
>Someones wearing pads in the family.
>Beatrice is revealed to be a Nazi Italian from some wealthy family giving her the ability to float on water.
>The stakes are really based off servants.
>There's like a bajjillion Beatrice's before and after our Beatrice.
>Some shit about alternate beginnings for each world.

Wat.

>>5932041

I like how every time sometimes happens to Beato Battler just gives up and bawwws and forgets everyone else.

>>5932033
ALWAYS BET ON DUKE

>>5932003
The problem is that it's all too much plausible!

>>5932044
The other Rokkenjima.

>>5932031
The text is saying someone is seeing "The Witch Beatrice" with their mind's eye. And Gaap is there.
It's full of fuck.

So let me get this straight

The stakes actually exist as humans?

I need to go fap

Shannon is actually a hermaphrodite.

She is basically a living Schroedinger case, neither truly a man nor a woman.

>>5932044
They become stakes.

However Shannon was describe as live-in worker...

Where the fuck is evil Hanyuu

>Play EP 1-5.

>Expecting to solve this.

>see this episode.

.......

>>5932069
WHAT?

>>5932060
Yup.
Gohda and Be-on open their own restaurant at the end of EP8.

Battler should be showing up at the end to be fuckwin awesome for 5 minutes before he becomes useless again in ep. 8

>>5932084
>When I asked, I heard that she was a live-in worker.
>So normally, the only person close in age to her was Jessica.
Ep1.

>Someones wearing pads in the family.

Wat

>>5932048

マリアの遊び相手=使用人

Maria has a playmate on the island and it's an employee

>>5932087

This will never happen again.

Battler's done.

>>5932048
OMG TROLLED

>>5932105
Bullshit

>また東方ネタ出たぞｗ
another touhou reference amongst all the Yasu flashback trolling

At least when Erika was around it was interesting.

>>5932105
Oh boy, I wonder who it could be?

>>5932119
It's been stated before that Maria had someone on the island teach her magic and tricks.

NO RUDOLF, NO KYRIE, DID MEIDO AND HER MARVELOUS PERSONALITIES ONLY

>>5932105
He dresses like this.

>>5932121

I hate it say it, but I almost miss the cunt

>>5932130
Define magic

>>5932129
Kumasawa

>mfw the whole episode is magical with no detective.

So..for now, it's pretty obvious that Suit!Beato from EP2 = Lion/Leon/Rion.

>my face when higurashi was easier to solve

I'd laugh SO hard if none of this was true.

>>5932111

what about annnnge

>>5932133
We had a flashback about Kinzo's past, this Yasu flashback, Battler not in sight and Van Dine being a boss.
And players on 2ch say they're still probably in the first half. Just be patient.

>>5932129

Kyrie

She knows how magic works.

>>5932147
Not really.
Just obvious that Lion is another personality of DID meido

>>5932151
even if they are all fake, i had a great time with this shit

>>5932147
And the suit beato is the Old Beato
And the old beato didn't loved Battler but then she suddenly
loved and became the new beato and
FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU
The human brain wasn't made for these kinds of things dammit

I need more screencaps.

>>5932153
Dine is apparently a "really good person", despite being super bitchy and annoyed in all the caps we've seen him in.

>>5932155
... I think you're confusing the two, here. Or you are missing almost everything here.

>>5932155

But Lion is the guy from 19 years ago.

How does that work?

The game is solvable from Episode 4.

Leon doesn't affect shit about Umineko. He came too late.

>>5932161

Ryu was just too lazy to make another sprite fro elder Beato.

Lion is Suit Beato from EP2 specifically.

Can someone explain to me how much of a timespan Umineko covers, then? oh fuck me.

>>5932175
Let's pretend he doesn't exist.

Guys, please hold me.

I don't think my body can take this anymore.

>>5932175
He came in episode 2! Ever wondered why there are reds in odd numbered episodes that seem to deny Shkanon? Now you know.

Yasu aka Yasuda is the family name of the orphans who came from the orphanage.
So since we know that Beatrice is a Yasu, well...

>>5932171
Shannon is the man of 19 years ago.
Also a hermaphrodite.

>>5932175
HE IS THE FUCKIN BABY YOU MOROOOON

>>5932161
Battler is gay but don't want to make is coming-out. Solved.
>>5932163
Well, wouldn't you be pissed if you were trapped in a reality worse than ep6 by Bern?


That's when I understand what "the corruption will expand on the gameboard with the time" was supposed to mean.

Are you guys fucking joking or were the white haired battler = young kinzo sprites real?

what the fuck is this shit anymore

THEN WHO WAS PAD?

>>5932184

The baby not even mentioned until EP5?

Sure, buddy.

>>5932175
Again.
NO.
Solvable from ep4 IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER. " It can be solvable from ep4, but it would be VERY hard from an human perspective."
Knight, night, dragon. All of this.
The real sign saying " now you have every clues" was the " And then I knew" in ep5.

初代ベアト(金ちゃんが戦時中に会った人)
の娘がクワドリベアトで
クワドリの子供が安田、通称ヤス

安はななくいそっくりな使用人たちと一緒に働いてる
で、安にしか見えない使用人がシャノン

I find it funny that people are still trying to deny ShKanontrice

>>5932048
AHAHAHAHA OHWOW

>>5932183
WHAT HAS [SPOILER]MAGIC[/SPOILER] DONE.

>>5932178
EP6: Zepar and Furfur mentioned that it took 19 years to craft this tale.

>>5932195
The baby mentioned first in episode 1. You know how all the siblings are always like "it could be some unknown relative, like a child of Kinzo's mistress Beatrice who came to collect the inheritence"?

>>5932192
Jessica

初代ベアト(金ちゃんが戦時中に会った人)
の娘がクワドリベアトで
クワドリの子供が安田、通称ヤス

安はななくいそっくりな使用人たちと一緒に働いてる
で、安にしか見えない使用人がシャノン

latest theory Italian Beato/Kinzo -> Kuwadorian Beato/Kinzo -> Yasu, because it's a flashback set in the orphanage Yasu could probably be Shannon.
Kinzo is incest pig disgusting.

Jesus fucking Christ! and Umineko is supposed to be solvable? I don't understand anything anymore.

>>5932202
What's this say?

>1 week ago
>You guys are stupid, you just want batshit trolling to come out of nowhere, this isn't higurashi, the answer is going to be something the fans have guessed at
>this thread

>>5932207
>>5932207
>>5932207
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

OKAY GUYS
WHO THE FUCK IS YASU
I'M COMPLETLY LOST NOW

>>5932202
So the child of Kinzo and Beatrice came to work as an employee.

I WONDER WHO IT COULD BE

I feel completely retarded for not expecting a shitty, contrived answer.

This guy! This guy!

>>5932202
I still don't see how this is supposed tu be a clue. Yes, it is really ambiguous. But it still doesn't count as a proof for Shkannon, it could be something else.

Thread is autosaging.

>>5932201
>The real sign saying " now you have every clues" was the " And then I knew" in ep5.
No, it's not. He said it was solvable with 1-4 and they failed to show this in ep4, so few people tried to solve it. Then they added this line in ep5.
http://pastie.org/954477
>You really should be able to solve it as a mystery with the information given up to and including Episode 4

>>5932225
That's because you are in denial
Show me another employee who is relevant in the story and who could be 19.

>>5932221
the child of Kinzo and his daugther by the first Beatrice, the one Natsuhi dropped down the reef.
"Yasu" is a nickname the servants use for him/her, we still don't know anything about him since he's the POV

Got it. Lion and Shannon ARE the same person, but with completely different upbringings with completely different fates.

Did anyone die yet?!?

>>5932237
Isn't Shannon 16?

How is this working?
Are they playing slowly?
Why don't they just fucking hold ctrl untill the end and tell us everything dammit

Looks like evil Shannon vs Wright was real.

Guys

Guys
I am REALLY FUCKING CONFUSED.

>>5932246
No I think Kannon is the one whos 16 and Shannon is 18/19.

>>5932244
You

>>5932237
Okay, Shannon=Beatrice, how does it support Shkannon?

>>5932246
She is SUPPOSED to be 16.
But she is also an orphan

>>5932249
Shannon confirmed for Kohaku
>>5932244
The time is stopped. No murders are happening.

>>5932251
Shannon's supposed age is 16. Based on a few lines you can discern that. But if she's from an orphanage...

>>5932241
But Lion's a dude, which means Shannon...
.
.
.
.
;_;

>>5932238
Hence all the personality and upbringing bullshit in EP6

>>5932263
Deal with it.

Previously, on Umineko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcatQSyRK6c

>>5932231
Yeah, I know this interview, thanks. But in a later one, he was talking about this "sign".
In classic mysteries, the "sign" is always the time that the detective says "I know who the culprit is". However, I think we failed to add such a sign in Episode 4. You really should be able to solve it as a mystery with the information given up to and including Episode 4, but because we didn't give a "sign", people thought "there aren't enough hints yet", and few people seriously tried to solve the series. When we saw this, we thought "yes, a clear sign really is needed", and a "sign" appeared in Episode 5 as: "And then.........I......knew."
Please note that he could have put this "sign" at the beginning of ep5, without any problem.


also

>>It is possible to solve the "who dunnit", "why dunnit", and "how dunnit" for up to EP4 at least, but this is from Ryuukishi's perspective. Just because it would be possible for him doesn't mean that it will be possible for all the readers, coming from their own perspectives.

http://community.livejournal.com/rokkenjima/188310.html

When will tthe stream be ready????

>>5932263
>Battler confirmed for homolust

FUCK YEAH

>>5932263
GEORGE IS GAY

Looks like the servant name -> demon name theory was right. Asune and Berune in this screen.

>>5932280
f.

Sleepanon again, what have I missed? Delicious fake spoilers come at me

>>5932280
Oh, Gohda, you're such a lucky guy.

Umineko = R07 coming out.

>>5932282
Shkanontrice confirmed.

>>5932280
I thought the names were supposed to end in -non

Now when you think about it, it really makes sense to be different Rokkenjima's. The bottle messages tell different stories, and we know that it took 19 years to make this story. So if the different story means not only the story of those 2 days, but the whole 19 years time span, with different starting conditions...

>>5931822
pliiis stop ...

>>5932282
a lot of mindfuck. And I mean A LOT.

>>5932280
RYUKISHI CONFIRMED FOR LAZY FUCK

hey someone find a drawfag to make a reaction image like the one we had for ep 6

>>5932294
He got us good.

>>5932293
Same character, different pronunciation.

>>5932282
Depending on what is true, either small proportion or nearly half the girls in Umineko are actually men.

Also, the stakes are real people and there are significantly more Beatos than previously reported.

Suffice to say, even Speedwagon is afraid at this point.

AHAHAHA the story span 19 years?
The board starts 19 years ago.

What now detective!!?

You know what the big trick in episode 5 was? The stakes being cast off as new york paperweights.

>>5932303
>>5932294
Actually he didn't.
The whole 19 years tale only started with episode 6.
Before, only the 2 days were in question.
That's just stuff that came from nowhere.

>>5932311
How incompetent do Erika and Bern have to be to hone in on the paperweights instead of the fucking servants?

That's retarded.
With 19 years too many things can change.

Someone make a new thread, we've been autosaging for a while.

>>5932311
And?

>>5932311
Oh god, they're all gonna be orphans Kinzo 'recruited' from America, aren't they?

>>5932282
Kinzo got his gold from an Italian submarine, Beatrice was on that submarine. HE had a child with her, the Beatrice he kept locked in the Kuwadorian mansion because he thought of her as the reincarnation of her mother. The child Natsuhi was given was the incest child of Kinzo and the locked Beatrice.
Lion is gender ambiguous and who the child from 19 years ago would have become if Natsuhi had accepted him (hint: this means there's a revenge-crazed gender-ambiguous person in all the other episodes)
Flashback of "Yasu" ( the child from 19 after he/she survives the fall) that gets taken to the orphanage and starts working there, stakes were real life servants.
Yasu is probably Shanon. No mention yet of anything regarding Kanon.

>Beatrice is a ran-away Nazi
>stakes are confirmed a bunch of run away Jews

FUCK YES!!

>>5932319
Well, a lot of things changed between ep1 and ep2. But then the way Beato's power works is strange.

Also yes, new thread.

>>5932314
Well
>So, the words "Rokkenjima Explosion accident" are not a hint, but one of the answers. To go even further, one could say that all things that appeared after EP5 are not hints, but part of the answer.
You can theorize that ep2 was different because of mysterious guest.

>>5932334
Mysterious guest who the detective never saw and was actually just the maid?

Wait wait wait. Lion can't be Shannon AND be the guest in episode 2.

>>5932341

New thread

>>5932338
We don't care if it is the mai or not. If everything is supposed to change, even the life or dead statut of Beatrice, the bomb thing can also change very easily.

>>5932325

>Lion is gender ambiguous and who the child from 19 years ago would have become if Natsuhi had accepted him (hint: this means there's a revenge-crazed gender-ambiguous person in all the other episodes)

Jessica. The real Jessica was killed by Leon in every game, this is why that red text in EP2 exists and can both excuse her from death.

>>5932346
Lion is a happy go lucky kid who has no reason to kill anyone. He's the happy end of the child from 19 years ago.

So Leon is alternate Shannon which is the rape son of Kuwadorian Beatrice and Kinzo?
And he's fabulous. FAAAABULOUS.

Regarding the PAD thing, since most people seemed confused by it, PAD-kyo (Lady PAD) is the Japanese nickname for Bernkastel and a certain Touhou character.

>>5932339
Because he isn't. He doesn't exist in ep1, but does in ep2. Maybe her DID doesn't exist either...

Is it me or is this thread stickied at the bottom of the page? You don't need to worry about autosaging.

Shannon = Kanon = Beatrice = Yasu = Lion

UMINEKO? MORE LIKE BEST PLOT EVER

>>5932361
No, read the spoilers again.

>>5932353
Why Bern? I don't think R07 would've edited her sprite throughout all these eps. It'd be too much work for him.

>>5932342
Did we delete at the same time? You go ahead and make it.

New threads are 404'ing.

Looks like we're done discussing shit. Thank god, I'm exhausted.

>>5932353
In this case, it cames right after a "Jessica is a man" and they were clearly talking about pad, pad. From what I've read on 2ch, in any case.
Again, this pad thing is not confirmed. It must come from something like " Jessica is a boy => She is lion => She needs to use pads because Ryukishi is generous"

>>5932370
try not putting spoilers in the OP, janitor is probably deleting them because of them

>>5932368
This is an ancient nickname, actually. It comes from the fact that Bern looks like Rika but has way bigger boobs.

>Jessica is a boy => She is lion
JESUS CHRIST BACK ON THE BOAT

>>5932367
That's not spoilers but speculations about him.

So Jessica is a lion?

>>5932369
Yes, it seems so.
>>5932386 New thread.

BEATRICE CAN BE A KNIGHT A QUEEN OR A KING
HAHA OH WOW

new thread please

This is an obvious/off-topic question, but what is Ryukishi's real name?
I've always wondered..

>>5932395
Douglas McTrollerton.

new thread
>>5932386

>>5932418

Oh, that makes sense, thank you Anon.

I'll be on my way to the new thread.