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You forgot these.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

Images are still up at the old thread here >>5883168

Working on a few more packs, will start posting them in a few hours.

Getting started:

1: Controls and interface

Move around with the arrow keys or numeric keypad. You can interact with most objects by bumping into them, which includes attacking enemies. Glancing at the top of the screen you will see a list of windows you can open and their associated hotkeys.

2: Creating a character

Choose the "generate an adventurer" selection on the first screen, then it will ask you to pick a race - some easy choices would be golem for a melee character, or lich for a spellcaster.

3: Exploring the world

After creating a character you will be presented with an optional character, then left to yourself in your starting home cave. Upon exiting, you'll see a town right outside - this will be a good place to start. Not far away is a little dungeon on the map called Puppy Cave, this is an easy dungeon to start off in.

4: Making money

Before you dive headlong into adventuring you'll want to buy better gear. Early on your best source of revenue will be quests found inside towns; in the first town you see you can find a job board by walking straight down the road until you find a central area in the middle of the place - a board will be right there.

5: Building your power

EXP can be gained through almost any action, there is no need to rush into the toughest dungeon you can find. Skills grow through usage, and stats grow by using their associated skills. A good way to start would be by training your weapons and defense skills by entering wilderness maps and attacking whatever you see there.

>>5890879
Cool, I missed that because I was mostly copy-pasting from the last thread just to get a new one going after autosage. If I post another I'll scan the thread carefully for new packs.

Advanced play:

1: Becoming powerful

First and foremost, economize your potential gains. The way you spend platinum coins and skill bonus points can influence how powerful you are later. Skill points should be saved up for as long as you can manage, platinum coins should be focused on your most important skills to keep potential high.

2: Picking gear

The best equipment is what gives you good bonuses. Even if the regular offense/defense stats are weak, good perks can be an important boost to your abilities. This is how you can take down incredibly large numbers of superpowerful enemies that would seem impossible with mundane gear. The best perks are the ones that buff your chosen combat skills.

3: Efficient training

Focus your skill use, don't spread it around. If you intend to attack heavy bosses with a machine gun, then use firearms as much as possible. If you want to be a melee buff with great armor/dodge skills, then don't use ranged attacks except when you're sure you need them. Try to be as narrow as possible, if you're a mage then focus on specific spells so they gain levels.

4: Allies

Don't neglect pets. Pets can be multiplied, trained, upgraded with gene engineering, and equipped with the best gear you don't need for yourself. If you start early on by saving up sets of gear, when you start becoming able to catch high-end pets you can plan to build a strong back-up force. If you're a melee fighter get mages and shooters, if you're ranged then get tank pets that don't die easily.

5: Advanced dungeon strategy

Depending on how you've developed yourself, you'll need to find your own style of taking on difficult boss floors. If you're a mage you can create walls to form defensive choke points, if you're melee then you can hide behind corners so breath attacks can't reach you. Use the environment to minimize exposure to ranged attackers, teleport to escape big pileups of enemies and locate the boss as quickly as possible.

>If you pick fighter you'll get a lot of discounts in nice places as well as doing more damage and taking less.
>as well as doing more damage and taking less.
Is this true?

>>5890975
Good question, nobody ever chooses fighter or thief.

Honestly.... fighters' guild has its benefit (thieves' doesn't) but I very strongly recommend mage.

>>5890996
First time playing here.
I'm planning to get to thieve guild to get pickpocket.
Is there a better way to get it?

One more thing, if you want to eat a mochi, be sure that you can survive being beaten in the back of the head by your nearest pet.

Oh god, I got sick for a while and my health went down 15 points.
Is this permanent?

>>5891047

If all you want is pickpocket, don't join the thieves.

Here's a magic trick to get to the trainer:
You must have a rod of teleportation, a scroll of incognito (or a disguise kit), and obviously enough platinum to purchase the skills you want.

Teleport the guild guard who stands on the stairs. Go down the stairs. Use your incognito scroll or disguise kit so that the now hostile guild members are no longer hostile towards you. Get your skills from the trainer. Bail the scene.

>>5891083

It is. You shouldn't have whored it up.

>>5891083
>>5891101

It isn't permanent, unless you don't cure it.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Potions

Find any of the healing potions listed there that are blessed. Read the description in the wiki. A blessed healing potion can cure your sickness. Also, dying.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Sick

>>5890996

The benefit of theives guild is that you can sell stolen items for much more gold to vendors.

Eg. a stolen lamp sells to vendor for 100g, while if you are in the theives guild, it goes for around 1k+

Most people end up in the mages guild though, for the buff spellbooks.

>>5891120

does the non-permanent thing apply to the lost stats too? or do you also gradually get those back by drinking blessed cure potions? Because as far as I knkow, I never noticed my stats getting recovered post sickness.

>>5891138

I never let sickness get to the point where I lost anything, but if it genuinely decreases the stat straight up, it's permanent. It's not like a mutation or ether disease where the mutation or ether disease symptom can be removed. It's just like raising your stats through training them.

Bottom line is you do NOT want to get sick, and if you do you should cure it immediately.

>>5891146

Come to think of it, I don't get sick. But that's because I play like a paranoid because of my experience with rogue-likes.

>>5891120
>>5891101

Thanks.
Please accept this cat sister as a reward.

Not only is my skeleton berserker drinking from a toilet (which is funny, and where does the water go?), he got pregnant from doing it. Don't ask me how that works!

>>5891055
>21 HP

how the hell do you survive in this game

>>5891146
There's an NPC in the first town that cures 'permanent' stat losses. Left side of the bakery building, same room as the magey saleslady who sells uncurse scrolls (I am her best customer)

>>5891161
Uh.
You...should give your pet poison or dye.
You don't want it to give birth. Especially in a city.
Well. Maybe if it's a town you never want to enter again.

>>5891162

Look carefully. They're level 6. They're burdened to the point of red-colored speed stat. It's still over 100. My guess is that they play a fairy (or a debug race).

if you get sick, just take a hunting quest and die. no consequences other than a loss of fame.

>>5891168

Forgot about that healer. Yeah, you might be right. But I don't know sickness because I avoid it like the plague... which it seems to be, more or less.

>>5891161

ಠ_ಠ

Drinking from the toilet? What the fuck? Is it a dog skeleton?

I hate when my pets randomly eat or drink stuff. They drink from wells and make them dry up so I can't get wishes. They eat the rotten food I drop and then get status ailments. They take food drops I get from people when I'm in the middle of performing and unable to do anything.

If my bells weren't so overpowered, I would've just sold them to the slave trader.

>>5891162
Looks like he rolled a Fairy
FYI Fairy starts with Pickpocket and broken Dodge bonus. Enter towns just before dawn and you can rob pretty much anyone. Find your marks first by asking for trades.
>>5891161
>Killed by Slime in the Mine
Fuck those Slimes man, fuck them. I went to the slave town and bought myself a Machine Infantry with a fucking laser gun and still died 3 times clearing it.

>>5891184
Potions of Restore Body/Spirit may be able to do the same thing as well.

On a side note, every beginner should buy and drink a blessed Potion of Restore Body and a Potion of Restore Spirit for the stat enhancement. Even if it isn't much, it's still a free bonus to your stats.

>>5891162

Minions do the fighting for me, all I do is toss a shuriken at a general direciton and watch them go. The little girl that killed me(by trying to save me from choking) just did 100 something damage to me using "bash", so I could say my mooks are pretty powerful.

I, on the other hand, just sell my body to shop owners and drain them of their gold every time they restock(while doing quests of course), all my deaths apart from the that one have only been suicides in party missions due to being "sick".

this game is really THIS good ?
i tried to playit one year ago but i didn't know what the fuck i was doing at the beginning

>>5891208
>didn't know what the fuck I was doing
That's 'cause it's a Roguelike.

Want to try this but still torn between 1.16 and 1.22, what's the version most people use?

>>5891193

I'm not using bells right now and they still do that. Annoying as hell. Especially the performing thing. I don't run into the other annoyances because I plan to avoid them.

Still, it would be nice to have some AI flexibility. Allow you to tweak their AI a bit, you know? Maybe introduce a spell or a special item that can recall and dismiss any of your selected pets at a given moment. Obviously an item that you need to grind to get, do a special difficult quest, or something. It would be worth getting, for sure. Reach town? Dismiss pets. Enter dungeon? Recall pets.

Maybe my idea is just silly. Being able to tweak their AI would be nice, though.

>>5891208
Make 1 or 2 throw-away characters just so that you get a feel for the game, and then play it seriously. You won't do very well in Elona (or most roguelikes, for that matter) until you learn the ins and outs of the game, and the best way to do that is to mess around for a while.

It's a very, very fun game once you get a hang of it though.

>>5891208
>i tried to playit one year ago but i didn't know what the fuck i was doing at the beginning

Every rogue-like is like that. I've been playing rogue-likes for a looooong time and they're always different and new, aside from a few staples.

>>5891216
Most people use 1.22

Some people crash like crazy.

Check before you commit.

Does anyone know which of the moongate maps is the one with a screen full of little sisters but no meteor attack? I accidentally burned down the little sister's mansion with fire.

>>5891216
I use 1.16 since it's stable and a lot of things are nerfed in 1.22. I'm not sure what's so much better about 1.22, but apparently it's good enough for a lot of people to want to use it instead of the older version.

What are the worthwhile ranged pets? I only know of the Spiral King and Quickling Archer and Bells.

>>5891247
You can move a character up versions but not back down. If you're happy with 1.16 then you'd might as well stay there; in addition to the crashes (which only affect some people, nobody knows what causes them yet) there are also other frustrations. Apparently you can get potions of cure corruption, which are pretty much the holy grail of the game, by playing blackjack in casinos - but it's nerfed / bugged / not working in beta I hear.

>>5891266
You can buy machine infantry as slaves from the start of the game, all you need is a little money.

Beyond that, anything that casts bolt spells. If you notice something is making dungeon-clearing difficult for you with ranged attacks, then there's a good one too - I'm not thinking of much because my character dodges them all.

>>5891266
>starving
>in yowyn

>>5891267
>>5891283

If you are into magic-casting pets, try getting a cloud-type pet(eg. Chaos Cloud). They cast ball-class spells and have a high Control Magic skill to avoid hitting you or other pets.

>>5891293
I starved to death in my house because I threw up while I was trying to eat.

>>5891302
They have control magic? I did not know that.

I'm guessing they also resist their own element; if you could get a bunch of electric clouds (level 12, breed power 15) together they could probably to excellently in both dungeons and team arena.

>>5891314

Fun fact: extremely powerful enemies can be killed by alcohol poisoning if you throw a bunch of cursed crim ales at them. Just build a gargantuan stack, use a curse water or scroll to get the entire bundle cursed, then carry around 10~20 at a time to lob at things you want to see die in a pile of their own vomit. Requires throwing skill.

Oh god I just started playing and I can have a bear or little girl?
I fucking love this game.
which one should I take!?

>>5891325
Little girl. Humanoid pets can be given equipment so they'll perform better, and if you put the little girl in a ranch she can get you random pets instead of just self-duplication.

>>5891325
Little girl, she can hold more stuff.

>>5891325
>>5891325

you can choose either since you're likely to get rid of the starter pets soon enough when you reach Derphy. ;_;

>>5891325
Little girl, because having a pet little girl is awesome.

>>5891351

True bros keep their little girl. She's finally reunited with you after the wreck and you just abandon her? Coward! Weakling! Filth!

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Silver_bell

>Having them as pets, on the other hand, are a totally different story. Equip them with a ranged weapon, and you have one near-invincible monster that fires at a rate of ~8 attacks per every one turn you pass. A strongly recommended pet.

Creating custom NPCs:
http://pastebin.com/ygPjS7ta
on the /user/ folder there's a template, edit it
open elona and hit F8, select "create custom NPC"
it'll ask for the text file and an image
just remember the newly created NPC will be excited and attack

>>5891302
I just got an electric cloud from my scroll of ally, don't think I should keep it though. It has superb resistance to lightning.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_monster

>To prevent them from splitting and surrounding you, lure them into a corridor or use the wall creation spell to fill up as many spaces around them as possible. As a pet, mass monsters that split from your pet are loyal to you until you leave the room. The spawned mass monsters remain in the room they were spawned in and will be hostile to you.

This is the boss of town quest; it shouldn't be too hard to catch. Level is 20, get one and you'll have a cheap shot against dungeon bosses and the pet arena.

>>5891402
You should certainly keep it. It casts AoE spells and has the ability to shield allies (normally allies would be hit.)

The key thing is, if you get more than 1 together then you can be absolutely sure of them being safe because even if they do get hit it won't really hurt them.

if you have a bell for a pet, can you kill them to make them drop gold?

>>5891406
>The spawned mass monsters remain in the room they were spawned in and will be hostile to you.

Yeah, enjoy your party when you get back to that floor (if it's not a randomly generated floor every time).

I guess they're really ONLY good for the arena, and maybe some boss levels.

>>5891426
If you have a bell for a pet then you won't need to do anything like that because you can just give them a ranged weapon and ammo then watch them shred dungeons into gold for you.

does anyone know the website where you could get the custom for existing ingame NPCs?

>>5891545
Custom what?

This is taking longer then I thought, does anyone know if there is a way to summon more then one moongate monster with the crystal or a way to spawn your own crystal?

So do we actually get stronger from being in fighter guild? I didn't notice any changes in my stats.

>>5891701
>>5891545

Custom sprites, the "distress" made me forget what I'm typing about, for shame. I found them. http://elona.my-sv.net/

I'm making a custom npc. Does anyone know the number for the ability that makes bells vanish from dungeons?

>>5891849

that's "653"

On a related note, this is my mount. Dinosaurs sure have bad stats, great speed, though.

>>5891737
Joining a guild doesn't give you stats, it lets you have easy access to a guild skill trainer and stat trainer.

The stat trainer only raises potentials of course. If you remain unguilded, there's a chance they show up (any guild) as a guest.

wait.. is this an online-game where you can meet other people?

If not, not playing

>>5891869
How'd you get a dinosaur at level six? Cheat?

>>5891876

the only thing that's online about it is Voting for best name and scattered reports of humiliating deaths through out the land.

>>5891869
That's a custom character right?

>>5891876
If this game was online, it'd be terrible.

There are a couple online aspects though... you can vote for who has the best name (though the only good name I've seen so far is The Drunk Suika Ibuki), and you get to see when other players die, and what killed them. They get to leave a death message too.

>>5891882

Custom monster balls and a little bit of luck.

I kind just ruined the game for myself, though, so I'm making it stay at home 'till I'm at higher levels.

>>5891876

If you desperately need it to be an MMO or MUD, then you have problems. This is a rogue-like. Elona has the ability, as someone said, to broadcast and read death messages, and vote.

You can also enter "moongates", which take you to houses of players. They can have anything from rewarding monsters and summoning crystals to bring unique monsters from the moongate to your single player experience to death traps, general trolling, silliness, and just cool layouts.

There is a community aspect, but it's not the central focus, or even the best part of the game. If you like rogue-likes, you'll probably like Elona. If you don't know what a rogue-like is, or haven't played one, then why the hell haven't you played one yet?

Get NetHack, and stick with it until you're semi-competent. Rogue-likes are rough. Expect to die. A LOT. Especially when you start. After having some fun with NetHack and have dipped your toes in the rogue-like pool, go ahead and give Elona a try.

There are other rogue-likes you can use to try out the genre, too.

Part 10, Files are here as usual.


http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

I finally found a decent living weapon. Unfortunately, I'm not planning on using guns, but I do have some ranged weapon pets. My <<Knight>> is pretty beastly (and yes, that is a BOSS <Knight>, got him from a scroll of ally). Would it level faster if I gave it to a bell instead? I got a silver bell, but between my Golden Knight and <<Knight>> I have enough power. My next god pet will be coming soon, anyway, if I can just level my faith skill enough to get the final reward.

What ranged weapon unit should I use (not a bell), other than my <<Knight>>?

>>5892020

Damn it, forgot to upload my picture. The captcha business is distracting me.

>>5892020
Assuming that excludes quicklings as well, you could always pick up an archer from a rogue boss encounter. They'll scale nicely and come with the firearms skill.

>>5891969
I wouldn't say NetHack is a good 'intro' to Elona. NetHack is brutally unforgiving and is trying to kill you every second. Plus death is permanent.

Elona, death is just an inconvenience when you get higher level.

Gee, what a great treasure map...

>>5892075
>I wouldn't say NetHack is a good 'intro' to Elona. NetHack is brutally unforgiving and is trying to kill you every second. Plus death is permanent.

Yes, but it's a good intro to rogue-likes. In many ways, Elona is more rough than most rogue-likes. Just imagine trying to go through Elona holding strictly to the permadeath standard of rogue-likes. A standard rogue-like may be unforgiving, but you at least have a chance. With Elona, it's almost a given that you WILL die at some time just to train some skills, if not other things.

I recommend standard styled rogue-likes. Elona is a bit different. It's also still not completely balanced as far as I can tell (though still great to play).

Hey guys, what is this?

Noticed my Dark Knight could die from over-casting, so I "nerfed" her a bit
Actually made her not die so much, so yeah

http://www.mediafire.com/?eebj923b8e5fxcl

>>5892097

A lack of landmarks actually gives you a clue, itself. There are maybe three spots on the world map that featureless snow can occur for the whole view that the treasure map gives.

Study the world map. Figure it out.

Part 11.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

This will be all for awhile I think, gonna take a break. There's more to come sometime later probably. If anyone knows of a faster way to get summons from moongates aside from reentering again and again PLEASE let me know. It will make things go allot faster, like is there a way to get a summon crystal yourself or something?

>>5892097
It's probably not blessed, am I right?

>>5892075

I'm pretty okay with regular roguelikes. Almost ascended once in NH, got pretty deep into the CoC in ADOM, beat Omega 10-15 times.

I tried Elona twice and in both cases I went "holy fuck why can't I kill anything why is everything ten times more powerful than me what the fuck?"

Both NH and ADOM are merciless on people who go out of their way to do stupid things, but they have a significant part in the beginning where you can get your grips, familiarize yourself with the environment and not worry too much about being overwhelmed. I saw no such thing in Elona. The first mission I took in the starting town murdered the fuck out of me.

>>5892184
Quests don't exactly "scale". the "starter" place in Elona is Puppy Cave which is only filled with weaker monsters.

The challenge is in it's completely randomly generated...

I'd like this game better if it didn't have the Pokemon-esque aspects (i.e. gene engineering, monster balls, heavy emphasis on pets rather than having a strong main character, etc.)

>>5892228
What's wrong with playing the game without pets?

It's not like it's unplayable without it.

>>5892228
>I'd like this game better if it didn't have the Pokemon-esque aspects (i.e. gene engineering, monster balls, heavy emphasis on pets rather than having a strong main character, etc.)

Then don't have monster balls, use gene engineering, or use pets. Keep in mind that some other rogue-likes also use pets. They're not necessary, but they're a good thing. The "heavy emphasis on pets" is all in your imagination due to the player base, who love working with their pets. In fact, the emphasis is more on a strong MC than pets.

If you don't like pets, just play without them. It's your loss. You might get a stronger character for it, too.

>>5892184
Look at the town board for easy quests, such as "Birthday", "I want it!" and "Going On A Picnic"
If you have the item or can buy it, that's a nice way to get easy money. Go for "Party Time!" if you have decent Performer and "Before It's Too Late" if you can get to the city in time

>Thieves' Hideout Lv2
Your pet can clean it by itself, when given starter equipment

>Puppy Cave Lv4
Has lots of weak monsters, but it's random generated so you can find some strong stuff sometimes

>Putty Attacks Lv6
This is NOT a starter quest, you'll find slimes and bubbles at the end of the cave. There's some equipment, furniture and herbs there protected only by putits, so you can easily get it. You can deal with the slimes and bubbles with a ranged weapon if they can't get to you

>>5892097
There are actually only two or three squares on the world map that are exactly that featureless.

>>5892097
Cheat a little and edit your image file. Here, take this directly and stick it in your graphic folder, replacing your old one. It'll make your treasure maps actually readable.

>>5892489

Hmmm, the original is a paper.bmp. I can't help but feel that there's some kind of mismatch.

>>5892489
Thanks, this might help in future. But for this particular map...

>>5892552
You rename it back to .bmp since we can't upload .bmp here.

Also, being a bandit is pure awesome. I can now raid level 60s wandering merchants and walk away unscratched with a mob of mercenaries after me.

Something I've been wondering... When you're harvesting materials from a dungeon it says something like:
You get 1 Casino Chip. (5)
What does the number in brackets mean?

>>5892638
How many you have in total.

>>5892637

Ah, I see. I figured it was something like that, but I like t check. I'm not sure if I'll use it, but I noticed it wasn't right.

>>5892665
Oh, that makes sense. I have 300+ of some other things, I doubt I'll ever use them...

Time to see if anything worthwhile comes out of these two stacks. Will blessing the treasure balls do anything? Wouldn't hurt, I guess.

Is it worth it to give my Potion of Cure Corruption for that Noyel quest? The rewards doesn't seem to do the justice considering I could practically trade it for any equipment I want from adventures, not to mention Casino chip is really rare for me.

>>5892776
Yes, it's worth it. Potion of cure corruption aren't that hard to come by, just rush through some low level dungeons and you'll get them every so often from the boss chests. Make sure you get the statue of Opatos so you can refresh the map when you're out of random dungeons to run.

>>5892772
Okay, treasure balls don't stack. Should have known. From 51 treasure balls I picked up five small medals, one potion of cure corruption, and five miracle quality items. None of them worth using anywhere.

One of the miracle items was a skull bow and...what's up with the skull bow? I've only seen three so far and there's nothing good to write about their stats. This one was paper with 1d20-7, 15% pierce, -30 to hit. Blast it with a scroll to platinum and it's 1d24+10, -43 hit.

All rare treasure ball items were of miracle quality. One small medal. A ring mail that may or may not be an improvement over my shopkeeper's armor (## negotiation), and a cloak with 10 to constituion and ### evasion, cloth material.

And some gloves I found in a random dungeon run with stats somewhat appropriate for its name.

Is the Anatomy skill party-wide?

>>5893407
There's no party-wide skills, your pets have to learn any skill you want them to use

Hey guys, Indigo Child here.

After completing my current game, I feel like challenging myself more somehow.

That said, I want you to recommend a race and class, as well as certain "conditions" to follow. You roguelike fiends here might recognize them as "conducts", and I'll let you suggest a few of those well. Try to be creative, as I'll pick three from (hopefully) a pool of many that would seem most interesting to play with. I'll even roll the character before finishing, (and confirm which conducts I'll follow), but I won't start until after I finish my current game.

I'd wager I'm about 1/3rd complete with my current game, so it might still be a few days before I start a new character. (I'm not retiring the current character until the chaos gods are dead).

>>5892952
>and a cloak with 10 to constituion and ### evasion, cloth material.

fairy cloak.

>>5893646
Snail Tourist

Well, I just took out a level 103 wandering merchant. I have to say, I was hoping for better stuff...

>>5893646

Someone already said Snail Tourist, which was obvious, so here are my suggestions.

Only eat meat, and only human meat. That means no cargos of traveler's food. No nuts and leafs. No rations. Just human meat. You can't even eat other meats to gain stats.

If you use the suggestion for a Snail Tourist, tack on a one stone maximum weight limit per each gear (as long as it says one stone or less, it's fine - you can't guarantee under rounding like if you played as a fairy).

Another suggestion would be to never wear precious gear.

>>5893646
Poor Indigo. I was gonna challenge my first Fort after hearing you say that, but right after I save up and get back in, I see this... Not sure if I want to proceed now.

>>5893943
Beast is owning me, so I went to go for Machine. Off goes his head. One down.

>>5892952
One of the adventurer in my game got a pretty nice skullbow, but not good enough for me to trade stuff for it.

>>5893943
haha, yeah. I walked in till I saw him, then ran back towards the entrance in case I needed to make a quick retreat.

We traded shots for a while, I still can't even make a dent in his HP, and then when I've got about 75 HP left (his shots typically only do like 15~25 now), his <Rail Gun> triggered its invoke...dealing ridiculous damage. The actual amount was something like 1100-ish, since I went from 75 to -1078 after the blast. Fucking beastly, I don't even think superb resists would save me from that.

From the looks of your stats, Frisia would destroy you before you had a chance to really fight her, she's a Catgod so she has at least 500 speed, meaning she'll get a good 4 turns for every one of yours. Course, this really depends on what weapons she generated with, and how well your PV would hold up against her attacks.

>>5894049
Great job, but I'm assuming his gun didn't trigger its invoke. How many swings did it take for you to decapitate? I might go for a scythe insta-kill, but I still need to bump up my damage to bring his HP down enough for it to even work.

I might check out undeadgod, but if I recall it's a spellcaster and I typically don't fare well against any of those....

>>5893926
>Snail Tourist
><1s equipment
>Human meat only
>No precious equipment

That's pretty harsh. It'd play like a Fairy, but as a snail. I could see some intense problems really early, the only food available would be the cursed beggar corpse from Lomias until it gets Anatomy, and even then oh god.

Keep the suggestions coming, so far though this is what it's looking like.

Would wearing something that prevents mutation also block potions of cure mutations?

I ask because I am so fucking sick of those goddamn invisible pumpkins throwing their stupid potions at me and eliminating all my hard work evolving into a ridiculously mutated monstrosity.

>>5894260
I've tried all three of them, the catgod is a no-go, she's just destroying me on sight. The undeadgod shouldn't be too hard if you got a stack of silence handy (which I don't). The machine one wasn't so bad for me, my whole party can tank the railgun 3-4 times before we're at critical health, and even then, with x3 paladin' lay hand/cheer, it's a pretty rigged defense. The tough part was when he got really low and started running around with 1 hp or so, started buffing himself like a mofo, and I can't finish him off for some reason. I was stuck at that point a few times until I actually went back to grab a scythe at home. I wrecked the daylight out of him with my trusty claymore, then changed to scythe last minute for the finishing blow. I actually started off the fight with a bottle of dye and a bottle of crim ale, but I don't think they were necessary.

Too bad it speeds up ether and wrecks my party faster than enemy wrecks them, otherwise I'd use it.

>>5893646
No gods and/or no pets.

>>5893646
No magic, no ranged.

>>5894297
>That's pretty harsh. It'd play like a Fairy, but as a snail.

Exactly. It turns a favoured race over on its head. That's why I suggested it. Plus the meat thing adds some extra harshness. I'm certain it can be done, but I'm also certain that you'll probably go through three characters before you get one that has a chance.

>>5894335

Now that's just making it impossible. At least let him have a god, but ONLY one for the whole game. And let him have one pet (which he might just send to a ranch to give him a steady stream of food).

>>5894592
You do not need a pet to beat this game. It helps, but not necessary. It just takes a lot longer... Food, on the other hand, I never had trouble with food after I found my rotten ring.

>>5894664

I KNOW you don't need a pet, but he's already probably playing a snail with extreme penalties on top of it. Have some sympathy, you know?

Yay, just killed Xeren. He killed all my companions besides my catsister. But this was mostly during the end part where he was starting to get scared and running all over the place and actually being far enough to use his railgun which pretty much oneshots all my pets including the bell and my mount. Thanks for the sickle tip by the way. I doubt I would've got that last bit off before he killed me catsister and me if it weren't for the decapitation. The chests at the end had crap for loot by the way.

>>5894693
I wouldn't know, my lockpicking skill failed me, broke all my lockpicks.

>>5894693

Nice work, and grats on the decap effect saving you.

>The chests at the end had crap for loot by the way.

Awww, I hate when that happens.

If you want to "challenge yourself" then just try to play a faster game with more elaborate strategy.

Grinding is basically about making the game easier. So if you want the game to be harder, then grind less. Compensate for lack of grinding by employing more complicated methods than just bashing down whatever you find with brute force.

>>5894702
Mine's only 21, the skeleton key helps a lot.

.....now that I think of it, there is another distinct way to make the game more of a challenge, speed. Slower characters also see more of the world; stuff changes more, days and years alike will move at a faster pace.

Slower characters make the game both harder and more interesting at the same time. You need to put in more effort and think deeper to accomplish the same things, so it becomes a somewhat different game. Accelerated passage of time should also spice things up a bit.

>>5894730
Golem Tourist! DO IT.

You know, if my DV weren't 208 before this I might've drank a cure corruption potion, but my DV was 208 so yeah. I should test out this damage on a sandbag monster later.

>>Snail Tourist
>>Eyth of Infidel
>>No pets
>>Fairy-style equipment (Nothing >=1s)
>>Will only eat human-meat (local maps only) and cargos of traveler's food (overworld maps only)
>>No ranged weapons
>>No physical melee attacks

>>captcha: trankle conducted").

>>5895607
>Final Destination

Post your progress. It's sure to be a hoot. Good luck, man. You're going to need it.

I'm guessing you plan on taking speed feats ASAP.

>>5895648
Lucky, Poison Tolerance, Short Distance Runner starting feats

The character is made, and the tutorial skipped.

>>5894828
The feat you get for nuking Palmia has the best fucking description.

I'm in need of several change material scrolls so I did the sensible thing and took alchemy to make my own. But alchemy doesn't make scrolls, jewelry does.

...

FUCK

I realized this not more than five minutes after I took the skill. The game has saved. Would it be difficult to edit my save file so I'd have jewelry, or would that be bad and also not possible.

>>5895607
Conducts are fine and noble, but don't make it so hard that the game isn't fun anymore.

Never intentionally commit an action that will lower your karma.

>>5895808
You know, this makes me realize. We should start stocking up on jewels/ores. There are two things that can happen with jeweler. Either it gets renamed or it actually becomes about jeweling. I'm not sure what it will even create though. Makes fanciful jewelry that sells for more? Embeds magical jewels in equipment for enchantments? Just make jewelry equipment of poor quality?

>>5895808
DOUBLE FUCK

I'm playing a pianist so the jewelry was inside me all along.

Well...uhhh...this is a new one to me.

Well...this is a new one to me.

>>5896141
Oh wow. I'd kill him over and over and feed him to my cat just for having that name.

haha wow...somehow I succeeded at a party time job.

i did nothing but look around for people dying, but nobody did.

i got no money, but i got platinum

Is it possible edit existing custom NPCs? More specifically, I want to change the White Wolf Yukata into a shooter type, but I'm not sure what, if anything, we can do with these .npc files.

What does this mean? Enchanted effect? And how to obtain that?

>>5896141
These are the best quests if you know your way around. Even more so if you spend a wish of the Seven League Boots.

>>5896469
It's a part of the new artifact fusion system that may be coming. That sign means the attribute is inheritable.

>>5896469
They're attributes that would pass over if you combined artifacts
Unfortunately even if you have the recipe for it it takes 999 Alchemy.

>>5896438
Custom make one. http://pastebin.com/ygPjS7ta

>>5896493
Is it available for 1.16? But anyway, 999 alchemy is... still way way way out of reach. I even didn't know that skill limit is a thousand, I thought it was 100.

>>5896499
But I would still need to find the White Wolf sprite somewhere.

>>5896532
Extract it from your game? I mean, it's only 48vs48 pixel. You can't really go wrong with it.

>>5895607
I died a whole bunch of times, but I managed to get lucky enough to get the platinum for 2 very important skills for this incredibly gimped snail.

Even with that, though, I still only have 1 MP and both of those skills are very low. But it's also not the only way I can attack. I can still throw potions and zap rods, but will that be enough to last until I can actually use magic?

>>5896364

Yeah, party time jobs are always about what you get from the people you're playing for, not the guy giving you the quest.

Wonderful way to collect the odd card or statue of unique NPCs too, even if they're supposedly stronger than their non-party counterparts.

>>5896576
So what do you plan to do for making money?

>>5896576
9 bonus points

Well I got tired of this games shit so I put on my Wizard Robe and Hat then activated Wizard mode so of course,now my title is *Debug*

Is there any way to change it to something else/what I had before?

>Bronze kitchen knife
>40% piercing
What?

THIS IS ONE OF THE SHITTIEST GAMES EVER. I FUCKING DIED IN THE FUCKING TUTORIAL BECAUSE I CHOSE MAGE AND I WASNT GOOD WITH SWORD. WHAT THE FUCK AUTHOR, WHAT THE FUCK!!!!1

>>5896670

That's what happens when you dont skip tutorials.

It can't be helped

>>5896670
Maybe you should have read your fucking spellbooks before going on to the combat part.
Retard.

>>5896670

You're just bad. I beat the putit's down with my staff with no problems, as a fairy. Also mages are on of the harder classes to play as, especially when just starting.

>>5896699
>as a fairy
Cool ~90% evasion bro.

When exactly is the festival of jure? 12/25? Because the wiki only lists it as December.

>>5896889
Whole of december i think

>>5896889
It's the entire month.

>>5896895
That's strange, then i just went there on 12/2 and everything seemed the same

>>5896911
It's not in 1.16.

How much damage do mines do? It may be a way to kill the king.

I've been pumping fish into the alter and still no prize from Ehekatl. How many fish do I need to give her? Also my faith skill is 15

>>5897029
If you have no it makes you pious on your gear then the point you start receiving indifferent messages is when you can get the black cat. Also to actually receive the gift you must pray.

Fuck yes got this as a reward for a hunting quest.

>>5897133
oh man you lucky sob

>>5896926
The xmas version has it, and it is still on 1.16. The official upload is dead, but searching for elona_xmas.zip should be pretty simple.

>>5897133
Damn it, it seems like everybody has the Zantetsu besides me. I wonder how everyone's special artifacts collection is going. Particularly the randomly generated ones.

I've got the Arbalest, the Beggar's Pendant, Kill Kill Piano, Shena's Panty, Shield of Thorn, Stradivarius, Twin Edge, and Unknown Shell.

I'm missing the Al'ud, the Crimson Plate, the Claymore, the Hiryu-to, the Vanilla Rock, and the Zantetsu. Basically a bunch of the harder to get ones.

How lucky have you guys been in artifact finding?

What's a good god for Pianists?

>>5897181
Lulwy of Wind. Who is a pretty damn good god for everyone.

>>5897163
One of the faggot adventurers in my game is running around with the Hiryu-to, and he doesn't want to show up at my house or any cities. When I catch him, I'll trade him the standard cure corruption potions for it, steal them back, then grief him until he leaves North Tyris. Fucking asshole.

>>5897181
Honestly there isn't any particularly focused on the pianist. Maybe Lulwy for the slight speed increase, but honestly just finding a bunch of glass equipment would be more effective for that and easier.

Where does your character lean to besides being a pianist? Performing is usually just done for the easy money and not really the true focus of the character I would say.

Do you like to melee, shoot bows, shoot guns, or use magic? And do you like gardening or fishing?

>>5897191
Do pets get affected by Ether? The Wind Bow seems nice for ranged pets.
>>5897200
Currently, I'm just messing around, but generally I do melee, with the occasional ranged gunshot with pianists. It's kinda annoying for me to find a spellbook that isn't difficult to read, and as for gardening and fishing, never tried it; So many things to do, and I don't really know about the other activities like crafting, ranch...

>>5897193
Why not just kill him when you meet him? Precious artifacts always drop so feel free to just start murdering him when you meet him.

>>5897220
Pets arent affected by ether or luck.

>>5897220
Nope, your pets are entirely ether disease free so feel free to hand them ether equipment.

How many pets do you have? If you have a lot then Jure could be the God for you as a lot of her stuff is very pet friendly. The pet can revive one of your other pets instantly when it dies once and it recharges everytime you sleep. The jewel is a reusable blessed healing rain scroll. The weapon invokes healing rain and holy veil a lot. Also she gives bonuses to cooking and anatomy which can help a lot in keeping you fed while in dungeons. Also healing bonus which makes you regen faster.

If you don't rely on pets that much though then consider Opatos. He gives bonuses to strength, constitution, shield, and weightlifting. All very useful dungeoneering skills. Also his pet can carry most loots that will just make you go overweight due to her max weight limit. His passive ability and treasure both reduce damage too making it easier to survive. The Gaia Hammer is just powerful.

So basically it's whether you depend on pets or not.

>>5897220
>Do pets get affected by Ether?
Nope; pile on the Ether.

I just realised that no matter how high level the monster, my anatomy skill only levels up by 0.001 at 70% potential.

What the fuck?

>>5897289
Anatomy levels based on kills, what you're killing doesn't matter at all.

Also I just realized that I now have three weapons with #####+ critical hits. A staff, trident, and the Kill-Kill Piano. I went outside to see if I could hit anything despite being on a mount and the first thing I kill is a hermit crab with an unknown shell. Critical hits don't become every attack with this setup though sadly. I wonder how much critical hit plus it would take to get all criticals all the time.

>>5897329
I cant believe i have to kill 1000 monsters to level up once. And apparently potential means jack shit.

game is fun, played for 6 hours straight, i love randomly dying to shit, this reminds me of a hardcore MUD i played like 10 years ago.

Has anyone managed to get the chat function to work? Nobody seems to be able to see my text even with it set to connected.

>>5897652
Nobody talks in Elona.

Is the black angel a good ranged pet? The bitch seems to like to melee quite a bit ;_;

>>5897954
If given an equally good short sword and bow (or cross-bow) the Black Angel is pretty good about using each weapon as appropriate.

If her melee weapon is not a short sword then she will use her bow. If her ranged weapon is not a bow she will use her short sword. If she is equipped with neither short sword or bow then she will in all likely hood suck.

>>5898051
I gave her a axe and a bow.
She seems to love to melee still though.

Part 12

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

>>5898051
I tested many things and she always end up rushing the monsters instead of shooting them. It's even more noticeable in the arena where she'll go as far as punching them instead of using her godly diamond artifact longbow.

>>5898556
Its pet AI.

Part 13.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

>>5898556
I wouldn't know this for sure because I don't use pets much (can someone clarify?) but I think pet race determines AI.

As far as I know people use silver bells as awesome archers; monsters specifically designated as ranged attackers will probably also cooperate with being given ranged weapons. From what I've seen so far it seems like the majority of species will try to melee everything that doesn't have anti-melee defenses like causing bleeding when you attack them.

Part 14.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

>>5898632
Any other pet that won't just run to melee beside bells and that other insanely overpowered pet? I don't particulary want a broken pet.

Part 15.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

Word of warning, {EFB} is by far the biggest game breaker I have come across by far. She and <dora> were part of a "puzzle" in the moongate I got them from.
Not only will she break the game, she'll shatter it, then crush those pieces into tinier pieces before grinding it into dust, so use her at your own discretion.

>>5897954
You could always modify her combat behavior through EloSnack.

http://elona.squares.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3236&sid=af232ce49a6a6ad0238b2d72d5150e6
6#p16227

This is for a Twins Bell. A Varuna would only have main action #1 set to -1

>>5894110
>-50 hit

I'm convinced it's supposed to be the other way around now.

>>5898848
While at it, how do I make it so I see her intimity toward me?

>>5898834
Depending on your level you could try the M109 in pack 9, it's level 35 and a tank.

I fucking hate rooms full of *_hounds. It seems that every level 15-20 dungeon has a least one.

Part 16.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

I think I've lost faith in the existence of the <Stradivarius>.

Maybe I'm just being an elitist...but isn't this a real piece of shit? I mean, for real?

Congratulations, Suika has reached 400!

>>5899081
>Maybe I'm just being an elitist...but isn't this a real piece of shit? I mean, for real?

That wouldn't make you an elitist. It would make you an idiot or a casual fuck. Explain yourself, or beat it, troll.

>>5899059

If you're not above savescumming and you're on a post Christmas-edition version, wait until December and save before going into Noyel; make a bunch of copies of that save an load each one-by-one before entering and reading an Oracle scroll; six bards spawn there each December, so it's bound to show up eventually.

I got my first one like this then *another* on a bard I randomly shot down in Lumiest not five minutes after. *And* it was a better Madam's Favorite one.

>>5899114

Picture of Suika's achievement. Didn't post it because of the image I posted there.

>>5899119

I just might do that. It's just scumming to save agony of time, after all. Does the Jure Festival Noyel map have more bards than Lumiest (which has surprisingly many bards - adding more reasons to visit there regularly).

>>5899114
Isn't it just a steaming shitpile of children, trolls and griefers with no story or structure with graphics that look they come from the Commadore 64 era? Like all these games end up being like?

>>5899147

Noyel gets six to Lumiest's five, but its biggest advantage is that the first time you go there each December all of them are freshly generated, so you don't have to steal/burn/farm them until they drop their instruments to get another shot at Strad generation.

>>5899150
>Isn't it just a steaming shitpile of children, trolls and griefers with no story or structure with graphics that look they come from the Commadore 64 era? Like all these games end up being like?

Ok, now I definitely know you're a troll, but I'll bite anyway.

No story? There is a story, actually. That you're too incompetent to figure this out shows your idiocy.

No structure? The biggest part of this game is the structure of the game's system. It's incredibly rich and deep, and offers far more meta-gaming depth than most games (and almost all rogue-likes share this depth).

I'll grant you graphics, but compared to the rogue-like standard (not counting graphical front-ends which are essentially mods), the graphics are amazing.

You're the kind of fucker who thinks Fallout 3 is the best Fallout because it's in 3D modern graphics. You're the kind of kid who can't stand Tetris because it isn't all flashy and shit. You're the kind of jackass who can't play D&D because there are no graphics (except in character/monster art - not counting people who make their own graphics for use in campaigns).

In short, fuck off. You don't know games. Go back to your Xbox, you casual cunt.

>>5899171

That's right, I forgot about the whole spawning deal (why Party Time! quests are good for getting Shena's Panty - which is AMAZING for raising the value of your home - as well as the Bow of Vinderre and the Ragnarok with virtually no risk to the real world).

>>5899180
If there was a thread about Tetris except multiplayer filled with griefers and children, yes, I would definitely call it shit.

>>5899229 multiplayer

You haven't even played this, have you?

>>5899239
Be kind of silly if he did.

Will be awhile before I finish the next pack, going spelunking.

>>5899180
~and a new copypasta is born~

Makes you wonder how people lived in an age when "games" had no graphics.

>>5899229

Babby's first troll. Better luck next time.

Do some research before you jump into the fray.

Blackjack is fucking rigged

I have about 120 luck, with 38 dex and i cant win. The dealer cheats so blatantly...i have never seen anyone get so many 20s and 21s in my life.

>>5899369

An awful luck streak calls for some savescumming.

>>5899369

Try it out when you get the lucky day buff.

The Snail Tourist is coming along slowly, as to be expected. Jobs are possible, the trash in my cave went a long way (providing 5 of the 35-ish platinum) towards learning Casting and Literacy. Easier escort quests with long deadlines are great, since I can take the escorts into low-level hunting quests to kill everything for me.

No conducts have been broken yet, but I've been considering breaking one; specifically, being an atheist. If I did, I'd worship Ehekatl. (Ehekatl's School of Magic would be pretty handy, actually, everything else would just be a nice bonus.)

Both skills have been obtained, now it's just a matter of getting them up, as well as getting Magic up for some MP.

In the meantime, I've been defending myself against the small-time enemies with rods and potion-throwing, what little of those I can get.

Lots and lots of deaths, and because I always refuse to pay rogue bands, they're a death sentence unless I manage to keep scrolls of teleport around.

This is the hardest part of the game; once it gets going, gets a few spells and some MP, things will become much easier. But another level of "fuck you"-ery will occur when it hits level 6; tax payments are going to take every dime I don't have.

>>5899399
I already have the luck buff.

>>5899407
Starter cave has no maintenance fee, so if you keep your fame low your bimonthly payment should just about pay for the tax.

Part 17.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

wwwww

>>5898834

Alternatively, if you're willing to heap piles of fish, either rotting or fresh onto Ehekatl's altar, her black cat god servant seems to use both ranged and melee attacks evenly, if given both kinds of weapon.

Picture unrelated.

>>5899819
The black cat is horrible. Dont get it.

>get it for me by fair means or foul
Oh boy.

>>5899705
Thunder sorcerer man is my homeboy.
>>5899800
Translated for your pleasure.

Part 18.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

Part 19.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

Part 20.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

That's it for today, more tomorrow, also added a pet checklist and uploading a catalog containing the image files now.

>>5899991
>>5900245
I think that the well is getting dry when you're left with animated versions of inanimate objects.

>levitated signboard
>rampart

Is this Suikoden?

not hentai
get back to /v/

>>5900686
Not really, it depends on which moongates I do really, there are still a few left later on ranging from the gods to terminator. I'm just cataloging all the custom NPCs I come across.

>>5900701
What?

>>5900714
And you get back to /h/ /e/ /a/ /d/ /b/ /u/ /y/ .

>>5900798
headbuy?

>>5900815
err, well it's the boards made for hentai, yes /a/ to.

>Icy Fantasy Cirno was killed in your home by Putit
>repeat 10 times

Oh boy.

Damnit, Ice Fantasy Cirno, you're just embarrassing.

>>5900947

I saw that, too. I wish they had put "Eye am the strongest!" in the death message field.

Holy cow, another spate of those Icy Fantasy Cirno death messages just appeared.

Are the spamming deaths in home just for annoyance, or are they training armor/evasion? Either way, it's quite silly.

Now you're just being silly.

>>5901031

Request fulfilled :)

Added 10 pack d/ls to the folders.

>>5901271
>>5901114

>You become less patient.

>>5901261

Thanks for that.


>>5901114
>He pays his bills.
>So do I.

I wouldn't have expected this to appear anywhere else except for the workshop. Pretty cool.

>>5901861
I'm actually considering making a mutant, just for the extra arms and lets for massive DV/PV.

>>5901899

Nice. I'm considering making a world-wide static medal pick-up just so I can get the diary. You get at least 85 medals if you pick up each one in every town. I should have done it immediately after making my game so that she can level up and gain affection earlier, but I guess gene engineering can artificially give levels and power, while affection isn't that hard to get, really.

Should I do it right now? Funny enough, I have more pets than I need. I want to ditch some, but can't bring myself to do it. I mean, what will I do with their gear?

I have the god pet Golden Knight, a <<Knight>>, an Asura (I'll probably ditch it - not liking it very much), and a silver bell (again, probably ditched).

>>5902068
Put them at your house or somewhere. You'll want a set or two just in case someone comes visit, and/or you recruit a new member. Also, get a moongate Paladin. You can't say no to her face.

What's so good about a cat sister? Doesn't seem that powerful.

>>5902111

Well, I maxed out the room inside my house. Saving up cash for the next Jure Festival, where I'll buy a set of up and down stairs. I should clean it up anyway, as it's littered with junk (kind of funny how the in-game house is like my irl house in that way).

Anyway, getting that paladin will take work that I haven't done yet. I do want it, but... eh. Convince me.

>>5902139
1. Lay Hand (save ANY of your member from fatal hit) once per day, refresh by sleeping
2. 30-50% chance to use Cheer, which gives your entire party hero, speed, and contingency status (contingency makes you invincible to fatal hit)
3. Level 25, 300 speed, good built in evasion and combat skills
4. Insults enemy, dim/stun them
5. Steals food from your enemy. Even the toughest enemy will starve to death.

So how exactly do I use these pet files? Do I just put them in my elona/user folder and then use scroll of ally till they spawn?

Using Version 1.22.

>>5902198
Yep, elona/user. Paladin doesn't come in scroll of ally since she's an NPC, but most of them can be gotten with scroll of ally. You can find her in a lot of the harder dungeons, but I don't recommend going head on for her unless you are willing to use up a level 25+ ball or got good domination spell/rod. Just use monster ball to capture one of the lower levels "user" pets, and opening it might give her instead. Other pets might be sold at slave master, like the rich girl on putit/with putit, or horse master, like the white wolf. They can also be found randomly on maps or dungeons, like little girl, fallen knight, etc etc.

>>5902232
Is there any way to find out if a specific user pet is able to be scroll of allied or bought at the slave trader/horse breeder?

What is with all of these people posting these ridiculous pets?
Last I played Elona was 1.10 or 1.12, and the stuff people are linking as pets is fucking ridiculous? The best you used to be able to do, even with 10+ pets, are not as good as a single one of these monstrous piles of stats people are linking.

Are these hacked in cop out easy mode pets or has Elona simply gone that far downhill? What is the fun of having pets that do almost all of the work for you with so much speed that enemies die as soon as they become visible?

>>5902392
Just let people play the game how they want. I only use in game pets, but really, it's a single player game. How another person plays is there business for the most of it. Just relax. If they're having fun with a monstrosity that just destroys everything, let them have their fun. Really though, some of the stuff you can already do in this game is just broken. Like blessed change material scrolls. Or cursed booze capable of killing anything.

>>5902392

Well the npcs they are linking to are custom npcs, so chances are you'll have to fight rather than recruit them.

But hey, my 1.12-1.13 character had 7 pets that did all the work for it anyway.

>>5902421
Actually a lot of these CNPCs are neutral for the most part. People rarely seem to make openly hostile ones for the most part with a few exceptions. There are a few monster gallery rooms out there with plenty of summoning crystals. Seriously why would somebody make another pumpkin type monster though. Nobody likes pumpkins.

>>5902418
A good machine gun alone is capable of liquefying practically anything within a large level range at the beginning without any real stats.

>>5902437

Oh yeah... I forgot that most of the hostile CNPCs in my game are monsters that I made myself... never mind then.

the only really broken pet I've seen from these packs so far is the one that fills the screen with younger sisters. ~7000 gold from performing every time you meet one (which would be all the time, they're about as common as putits) is a bit wacky.

>>5902471
Performer already is broken though.

It's funny how performing to a shopkeeper gives you more gold than actually killing him and looting him. The game logic/mechanic is awesome.

A Dwarf Fortress player's guide to making your Elona experience more Fun:

-Resist the temptation to play as extended races.

-Avoid the performer skill.

-Instead of buying a castle, just pimp your cave out with the house board.

-Make museum rank a high priority. That basically means clearing the highest dungeons you can manage instead of ones you feel safe in. Take the house board out of your home and use it in the museum to design yourself a whoopass hall of victories with more space.

-Worship Opatos.

>>5902444
Bleeding damage is also exceptional useful, and this makes shuriken damn useful as well.

>>5902490
Why didn't you add choose dwarf race into that guide? Also would moving into a dungeon be an acceptable path to take for a dwarf? Also the best way to gain museum rank is by killing named NPCs. Usually with cursed booze for the higher level ones especially. Would killing somebody by throwing a lot of cursed alcohol at them until they throw up their innards be considered dwarfish?

>>5902541
>Also would moving into a dungeon be an acceptable path to take for a dwarf?
Very, very bad idea. Random dungeons disappear over time, and any monster with frost/fire powers can destroy or seriously damage your items when you're not paying attention.

>>5902541
Living working and fighting with your booze is a given.

Dwarves don't live in dungeons, they live in fortresses - big difference.

>>5902568
A few dungeons are static and named you know. Like the Pyramid or the Yeek's nest or the Ancient Castle. Also the Chaos Forts. Also a deed of dungeon gives you a huge place to work with.

>>5902575
So it'd be okay to live in a Chaos Fort since it's a fort? Though there's the problem of the uber bosses that live in each of them.

Damn it, I've found the Unknown Shell four times now.

>>5902127
Indigo Child is a Catsister Farmer and she rapes face. Catsisters lean towards spellcasting (in stats, I wouldn't know about their AI, never had a catsister pet) but they can do alright with ranged combat too, especially with their 200 base speed. Melee combat would be bad for them as they have a base 30 life, but with careful play it's possible.

I seem to have hit a snag with Snail Tourist. I'm broke, no rods or scrolls, and I have tax payments due. It can just *barely* cast Magic Missile (exactly enough MP for one shot). Literacy is still low, I only managed to read the book twice out of 4 charges, giving me a small stock to work with.

The problem? Only bats die in one shot, and just barely at that.

The "fairy-level equipment" conduct means pretty much nothing at this point; snails only get a back, ranged and ammo slots anyway, and I've barred myself from using ranged weapons anyway (I'll still equip them for stats, and I'll stick with the conduct on this one).

Still, it's been pretty rough-going, especially with tax payments sapping my income. 25 base speed isn't as big a hurdle as I thought it'd be, at least on the overworld. I can still go from Vernis to Palmia in just a few hours more than 4 days, more than enough for reasonable Escort quests (and the rare Before it's too late! quests).

This will take some time...

>>5902584
>Chaos Fort
Have fun getting your ass wrecked, unless you took him/her out already. Also, can't open salary box in dungeon.

>>5902593
I remember finding lots of these during Harvest quests

You can drop one in the Vernis Hideout and keep it as long as you don't go inside with another one
This way you can keep the best one and turn the other into an miracle amulet

Beginner's guide to creating a dwarven fortress:

1: start game, arrive in cave.

2: dig out the rock, use house board to put in some flooring you like.

3: drink booze

>>5902665
4. Read a bunch of spellbooks

>>5902694

5. Get two pet cats.

>>5902720
6. Go to the nearest castle and kidnap a princess

>>5902731

7. Summon ungodly-strong beasts into the middle of your room.

>>5902614
Catsisters have warrior A.I. so they melee a lot as pets.

>>5902615
Killed them all.

>>5902623
An Artifact won't transform as long as you and your party don't carry two at a time. If your pet has a precious artifact and you pick the same one up the one you pick up will transform. It's entirely fine to put two of the same artifact in one area as long as you don't hold them at the same time.

Just found this on a traveling trader, and for just 60k gold!
A great staff before I can get the unique one off of Issizzle, and once I do it will be a great dual-wield combo for SUPER spells (if the enhancement stacks, that is - not too sure about that one, but it should stack).

>>5902392
It's just one person posting, and no one is saying you have to use them.

They are the custom made pets, imo most people just use the ones with the sprites they like and not the ones with inanely powerful stats.
It is not really a big deal either way, it isn't like your game will be affected if they break theirs. Plus the saves people the trouble of going through the pets one by one themselves.
Sides, at the end of the day if someone really wanted an inanely powerful pet they could just make one themselves, the game lets you make your own custom NPC and there is a guide floating about I think.

BTW that reminds me, would the guy who made that green troll pet before post it if he would like me to add it to the list.

So how do I make money off of black markets? I'm in the thief guild, but everything I sell them is in the single or two digit range which is hardly worthwhile.

>>5902614
I'd have given it up long before you. I think you tried to take on one or two conducts too many.

Is it even entertaining for you anymore?

Pic somewhat related; it's a snail on a horse.

>>5902957
The list saves people the trouble*

Can't decide what feats to get next. Maxed on speed/luck buffs. Got the teleport but I wizard hard so it feels wasted. Only Hypnotism looks like it might be practical‚ for pickpocketing. Was thinking Distance Runner just because I'm sick of Resting but apparently the +stamina doesn't scale. I guess there's +MP...

>>5902868
Do want. Stacks‚ as I know. Just test it and watch buff durations. Likely worth the reduced %cast cap.

So, what are good recommendations for low-level pets? I'm level 10 right now, and bought a custom NPC that happened to be for sale. (I downloaded the first of those 20 or so CNPC packs.)

It turns out "Rich girl and the puchi" is pretty terrible for a lvl ~10 pet. she rarely attacks and spends all day buffing herself. At least she looks cute...

>>5903207
Just wait till you can buy Tadano at level 15. She's a buffed-up gold/silver bell with 800 speed. You do the math.

>>5901271
that's me sup
yeah i was training armor/evasion while i watched 30 rock.

>>5903207
>At least she looks cute...
This is whats important. Just leave her at your house and program her to say cute things so when you go home to cycle loot/meet visitors/get biweekly pay she can say something cute and you can go "aww!" before leaving to take on more dungeons.

>>5903295
You do realize that you undid your work more than you'd helped, right?

All those deaths eat your stats/skills pretty hard; you're probably far weaker overall now than when you started "training".

If you aren't very tuff yet, I'd strongly recommend a reroll.

>>5903378
He's probably under lv 6. He doesn't lose stats until he is 6. Besides, if you can die to putit when you are over lv 6, you should start a new character.

>>5903378

A lot of people train evasion (and possibly the light/medium/heavy armor per spawn equip) and other defensive skills, and stats by just passing time with the putits at the very start of the game in the tutorial. Since there's no penalty for death until level six, this is no problem at all.

Honestly, I don't know how you didn't see what he was doing. Seems pretty stupid on your part.

>>5903349
>biweekly

Anyways, I'm having trouble keeping my younger catsister alive. I've spliced her Greater Evasion and decked her out in light armor, but her low health means any caster spells instant death unless I can get to it and grab aggro before she does. And that sometimes won't wore on bolts/balls... Who else is using the diary catsister? How do you keep her alive?

I'm wondering what feat to get now. I have poison touch, dimensional move, cheer, all the stamina feats, and the better salary feats. Any of you guys have recommendations?

Those Aya monster NPCs are the biggest trolls ever.

>>5903438
HP feats.

A NPC came to my house and bring with her a good equipment, body armor to be precise. I don't have pick pocket, and she doesn't accept 4 potions of cure corruption. Can I kill her to get the armor? I killed her few times already and get everything from her inventory except the body armor, wonder if that slot is undroppable.

>>5903468
Everything is droppable. No exception.

>>5903445
You actually put those in your game? That's masochistic.

>>5903432
Give your enemies more options. My team is a little girl, a younger sister, a young lady, a younger cat sister, my horse, and a bell. It makes monsters ganging up on a single one of your pets less likely. Also carry around healing rain scrolls to use when things get hairy and potions to give to them.

My strategy for the most part in keeping them alive is to be the one who goes for the more threatening monsters first. I also cast cheer first before fighting anything tough particularly. It works well for the most part. If they get low on HP I use my Jure gemstone.

>>5903438
I've had this idea in mind:

1)Start with Ken-sei and shield bash.
2)Use twin shield.
3)????
4)pProfit!

>>5903468
Yea but then she will come after you.

Im not sure if its possible to get adventurers to give up on trying to kill you after that.

>>5903757
if you kick their ass enough they'll say "fuck it" and leave the entire country.

Hey guys, I've had this thing in my shop's strongbox for a while. How well do light sabres do on pets? This one's got virtually no enchantments, but I'm intrgued by the 100% piercing. Have any of you guys actually used a lightsabre despite the ether material and how well did it fair against monsters?

>>5904135
Try using Garok's hammer on it. They frequently have invokes.

>>5903987
Do more adventurers arrive to replace them?

Whats garok's hammer?

Also does anyone have the problem of wings not showing up in general vendors after they invested in them?

>>5903349
Catsister is cute and a nice melee pet if you give her enough DV/PV.

Man, what is this? I wasn't getting any crashes at all for the first few hours of 1.22, but I've just suddenly started seeing this every other time I enter a new area.

>>5904431
Ive tried playing a catsister claymore. You are godly, but you get one shot by hounds and liches.

>>5904195
Honestly I don't want to pay 94 small medals for it.

Also another special artifact off my list. It's virtually useless. But hey, special artifact.

Hit the bump limit once again.


Up and running here >>5904630

>>5904525
This is what equipment with high resists is for.
ABUSE IT.