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>>5884648
Because ADD

>>5884648
Because it's long and the best part comes last.
Unless you've already experienced the ballcrushing boredom of common routes you're going to drop it halfway and just clear some routes.

because charts are retarded

In the time it takes to clear Clannad, you could have finished 10 other VNs of medium length. Or if you're still into anime, 75 whole 12 episode series. I can't see how you can justify that, unless you have played all other VNs that interests you at the moment.

>>5884648
The lack of Sunohara route means that there is effectively no reason to play.

>>5884719

Holy Crap

Ok I see.

>>5884719
>75 whole 12 episode series
>19800 minutes
>360 hours
>THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY HOURS

>>5884769
s/360/330/
s/SIXTY/THIRTY/

CLANNAD isn't even that great. Plus it's fucking long. At least 90 hours and that's if you're using a guide and skip all the read text.

>>5884791
Well, at least you can play Tomoyo's route and forget about it.
Just be sure to cancel from your memory the after-story, Tomoyo After, IT DOES NOT EXSIST AND IF SOMEONE CLAIMS THE OPPOSITE HE IS LYING

>>5884798
Are you seriously one of those overzealous nagisafags that hates the other heroines?
Tomoyo was way better than Nagisa. You'd have to be a moron to not see how shitty of a mary sue Nagisa is.

>>5884769
keep in mind this is with a walkthrough so you don't waste time with mistakes.
Sometimes I wonder how much it took the writer to come up with that quantity of script

>>5884769
Since you're marathoning, it's pretty reasonable to skip OP and ED, leaving you at 20 minutes per episode, adding up to 300 hours.
>CLANNAD 300 Hour Guide.html

>>5884809
Dude, you read him wrong, he said you can play Tomoyo's route and forget about the game.
It doesn't imply Nagisa is the best, if anything the opposite.

>>5884809
Are you one of those illiterates I keep hearing post on the internet?

I played it recently and it's great.
And it's not like it's long because every routes is fucking big, it's just that there is a fucking lot to do.
And the routes are as a whole very solid, I kept hearing that the After Story was the best part but even the school part is pretty great.

And for the poster above, there is a Sunohara route.

Nagisa's route > Tomoyo's route.
Without counting the After Story since it's unfair

>>5884739
Sunohara needs a spinoff, badly.

>Awesome, but not for Beginner
Because only hardcore KEYfags will like it. You should probably find something else to play.

>>5884839
Actually Clannad is probably the only Key title that is accessible even for those who aren't Key fans, since the Key type drama takes a small part of the story.

Not something you would know though since you didn't read it.

>>5884848
Rewrite and LB are more accessible for non-Key fans.

Also, School Life > After Story.

Clannad is one of the best VN available translated.

I actually pity the guys who go OH IT'S BY KEY SO IT MUST SUCK I HATE KEY HATE HATE.
Limiting yourself like this, especially for a media that only has a limited amount of works available, is pretty retarded.

>>5884848
I read it which is why I know you're completely wrong.
Also the only KEY title that is accessible to non-KEYfags is planetarian.

>>5884894
>media that only has a limited amount of works available

Surely you mean in English, right ?

>>5884909
Of course, this is /jp/ you know.

Too esoteric

Clannad is pretty accessible for beginners actually with a high amount of routes that focus on lots of different things.

talking about VN's, can someone tell me how is the Umineko game related to the anime?

and which one should I play/watch first?

I'm downloading the VN from bitgamer atm, but it's slow as hell, so I was wondering if maybe I should stream the series meanwhile, but I was afraid of spoiling myself the story or something.

It's actually the first VN I read until the end.

>>5885009
They are both shits, forget about them quickly.

>>5885009
the Umineko anime to the VN is like the animated version of The Hobbit to the book

unless you are really shit at reading there is no way it takes 90 hours; although it is quite long. Go ahead and play it, it's one of the better translated VNs

>>5885009

Don't watch the anime, is garbage.

The novels are pretty good, but watch out of the spoilers. Also /jp/ hates it due to the recent popularity rise.

>>5885043
More like because it's shit.

>>5885059
490 votes total, average 9.11 (excellent)
Bayesian rating: ranked #3 with a rating of 9.04
Sure is shit.

>>5885103
Are you seriously going off of votes?

>>5885103
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/brand.php?brand=1228

Umineko episode 1-6.
73.8 on average.

I will give you the "shit", let say it's painfully average.

>>5885009
I watched ALL of the anime and I enjoyed it. But regardless, I have now read half-way through 2, and all of 1 obviously, and I'm wishing I hadn't watched the anime. It's still awesome and everything, but knowing most of what is going to happen is kind of shitty. It may start off slow and seem boring, but you'll be captivated after the first murder, unless you're a faggot.

>>5885126
>>5885103
>Votes

Where are we, Animesuki?

We know what Japan likes, and Umineko is pretty far from it.

R07 is a huge fan of Key
Now the whole Umineko thing is related

>>5885190

R07 is dead for me now.

Oh, here comes the samefag Clannad bashing troll.

>>5885190
R07 is a huge fan of Key, Type-Moon, Touhou and his own pretentiousness.
He's basically /jp/, but actually doing something with his life.

R07's favorite route in Clannad was Fuuko, he cried.
Kanon influenced Higurashi a lot, said by himself.
He consider Air a god game.
He now works for Key on their next title Rewrite.
The more you know

Umineko is absolute ass and I wish you faggots could stop discussing it. The shitty Umineko threads are even more common than Touhou threads and that's saying a whole fucking lot. Also every time I'm hiding an Umineko thread and I see a few of the posts, I can't help but think all of the people in these threads are just newfriends from various other boards and it pisses me off.

R07 is working for Key now.
And Rewrite will be awesome.

>>5885240
Due to Romeo though.
The R07's parts of the trial, Lucia, were the weakest.

>>5885236
Pic related : it's you

>>5885231
>R07's favorite route in Clannad was Fuuko, he cried.
That's quite interesting. I always found Fuuko's route the most emotional in Clannad (it was the closest thing to making me cry until the Tatarigoroshi ending, the first and so far only piece of fiction that has ever made me cry. I cried a lot), but it always seemed like everybody disagreed, so I thought I was the only one.

Voting systems never work. The vast majority of people are tasteless normals, so the vast majority of votes will be wrong. Anything that receives high acclaim from such public voting sites is more likely a very terrible excuse for a work, which is voted highly by the tasteless normals who overpower the small group of people with taste. 3D women are pretty highly rated among normals. Are you saying they are actually attractive?

So what is clannad about?
also, recommend me some torrents and such.

>>5885271
Ever17, Clannad or any other top game gets dissed
>This is at the top of the charts, what's the matter, can't recognize quality, better than _____ that ranks below it
Umineko gets dissed
>Voting system never work, erogamescape is full of normalfags, only a small group of people have taste

I hate double standards.

>>5885291
A man who is lost in life and the various people and relationships he builds.
Try hongfire if you want a torrent.

>>5885291
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=clannad+torrents

>>5885252
>Tatarigoroshi

What was sad about that?

Ep v and VII ending were waaay more sadder

So what is Clanaad about, anyway? The recommendations have me intrigued for the first time. I strongly dislike retard moe and cloying cuteness and for that reason I've steered away from it. Is it good enough they I'll be able to look past that once I get into it?

>>5885314

Nope, moe retarded sick girls and Maeda tipical fail drama

>>5885314
Yes, it's that good, it's very well done.
There is enough for everyone, even if you dislike "retard moe".

>>5885314
Sorry, I hit submit without seeing the post right before mine.

>>5885236
Yeah, you guys are not EXPERTS OF /JP/ like me. What the hell are you kiddies doing with your lives? Way to be a newbie at an image board! Might as well end your life now since you don't comply to my etiquette of visual novel discussion, heh.

Does Clannad even have a fucking english patch?

>>5885309
Well, I don't know, but Suddenly finding out that everybody you knew has died because of a huge disaster of which you're the only survivor is pretty sad, especially with a direct writing style like Ryukishi07's - at that point, you feel like you are Keiichi, and that you have spent those three episodes in Hinamizawa. Then comes the realization that YOU WISHED FOR THIS (a moment I found very beautiful right before). The music fit very well, too. I never cried because of fiction before, but I just kept crying throughout the ending.

I guess it's just hard to understand, just like why most people can't seem to understand how moving Fuuko's ending is.

>>5885441
Yes, a leaked one. Google it or ask someone who has played Clannad.

>>5885477
So is the patch not finished or what?

>>5885493
Finished, but not completely edited. By now it's perfectly readable, though. It's just that people don't want to release something they've worked on for so long until it's perfect. The game has been fully translated for years now, but it's still stuck in editing hell, and most people have already played it with the leaked patch.

>>5885441
>>5885493
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ykumij3no2z
Translates all text, but not the images and menus, but that shouldn't be a problem.

>>5885537
>>5885521
>>5885477


Sounds about like the state Chaos;Head is in.

How does on install this though? Just throw it in the directory and it overwrites?

.\

>>5885610
Yes.

Chaos;Head is not in editing hell, though. Only a few minor fixes had to be made, but after that, it would be completely finished (although the Antifail patch already lets you play the entire game without problems, you only have no images), but since JAST USA got a partnership with Nitro+, its release has been stalled indefinitely in case JAST wants to release it officially. If JAST ever expresses disinterest (like they did with Kikokugai), it will probably see its 100% release.

>>5885610
Yes.

Chaos;Head is not in editing hell, though. Only a few minor fixes had to be made, but after that, it would be completely finished (although the Antifail patch already lets you play the entire game without problems, you only have no translated images), but since JAST USA got a partnership with Nitro+, its release has been stalled indefinitely in case JAST wants to release it officially. If JAST ever expresses disinterest (like they did with Kikokugai), it will probably see its 100% release.

>>5885467
>>5885252
I didn't cry, but I did get a shitload of goosebumps while reading the ending.

Higurashi really had great characters you could care for. Too bad Umineko dropped the ball on this.

i downloaded umineko and it was words words words we're sooooo rich and the art wasnt kawaii enough so i rated it 5 on multiple websites :3

Short summary of Clannad:
Going to school with a bunch of people who look normal on the surface, but emotionally they are a disaster.
So the protagonist goes and fixes everyone's shit up, in turn everyone falls in love with him.

>>5885899
You make it sound like a harem VN.

>>5885949
That's because it is exactly that.

>>5885271
egs is a niche site and certainly not normal. Most of the highly rated games on there are actually good.

>>5885949
It's not, since it happens during different routes. They don't all love him at once. >>5885970 must have just watched the anime.