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I don't understand how magic in Nasuverse works.

What happens to all the kids who survived the fire and had their souls sucked out of them for ten years?

They just seem to be forgotten about at the end.

>Gainax Bomb

Alright, so let me get this straight: Saber's sister somehow got sperm from Saber's magical penis to form a clone son, right? Now was that just some kind of temporary magic to make Mordred, or did she have a penis all throughout her reign as king? And if so, does that mean she had sex with Guenevere?

>>5866453
Yes, and it was a temp thing so no.

>>5866457
Whew, that puts my mind at ease.


Let's see... If you attack the Ryudou Temple with Saber early on in the Fate route (Bad End #3), Rider is waiting for you. What the fuck is she doing there?

>>5866443
They rot at the basement until the new priest comes/discovers it.

Okay, here's a valid question:

If Gilgamesh is the ultimate king, possessor of all things, then why does he always wear a cheap-looking tracksuit?

>>5866463
Shinji asked Rider to patrol there.

Fucking mana transfer, how does it work?

>>5866477
And how does he own so many steel weapons if he existed during the Bronze Age?

>>5866477
Were you expecting something else?

How did Assassin die in Fate? He seems to survive slightly longer in UBW, even after Caster has died.

>>5866485
Because magic.

>>5866463
He dresses to blend in.

Most of the time. Dat midriff.

>>5866495
He died along with Caster.

>>5866495
Gilgamesh attacked the temple and killed Assassin and Kuzuki, that's why Caster has gone mad and attacked your house to get Seiba.

>>5866479
Ah. And who threw that thing at Shirou when Assassin and Saber were fighting at the temple, you know? There was some guy watching them from the woods and he threw some kind of dagger at Shirou.

>>5866502
Stupid sexy Gilgamesh!

Another thing I didn't understand:
Why does Gil get my dick harder than any of the females?

Captcha: mollusks doing

>>5866506
Ah... alright, I'll buy that. it did seem like a desperate move on her part.

>>5866465
Jesus Shirou, get your fucking act together!

>>5866511
Normally I'd say you are gay, but since its Gil I'm not sure.

We have to get rid of all confounding variables in order to be sure;

So, Gilgamesh or Gilgamesh-ko?

>>5866511
ur gay liek me

>>5866515
My dick responds the same way to seeing both

>>5866502
>>5866515
Well I for one was simply impressed with his badassery, but I've gotta admit, that shota-Gil is fulling me with strange desires...

>>5866515
Both

Is Kuzuki Souichirou still Caster's Master in the Fate route? She mentions that she killed her master, but was she talking about her first one, or Kuzuki?

>>5866524
Kuzuki is Caster's 2nd master for all routes.

She killed his master before the war even started.

I see... this is all very informative. There's gotta be some more questions out there...

Well, where do all the people living in Ryudou Temple go during the climaxes?

I've seen people say it, but where does it imply that Ilya dies a year after Fate ends?

>>5866558
They evacuate.

>>5866558
They sleep through it all.

>>5866559
Heaven's Feel route.

>>5866507
>Dagger
>One of the bad ends for attacking the temple early has Rider keeping Saber busy while Caster sucks you away

It was Rider. Been a while though, I don't remember if that was Shinji's idea or if Rider had been stabbed with THAT FUCKING DAGGER

>>5866559
>>5866582
Aww... I choose to ignore that. Alternate timelines and pasts and possibilities and chaos theory and whatnot.

I know this is never answered, but really, who the fuck are Shirou's biological parents? He has 27 circuits, albeit it low quality ones. Normal humans are supposed have none, or at most a few. And then there's the reality marble thing... And despite all this they never really brought magic up in his early years since he doesn't have any of the signs of training.

I know we focus more on the Emiya background but still I'd really like to know about Shirou's parents.

>>5866591
I;m sure Ilya doesn't mention that issue in Fate so you wont feel bad for her.

>>5866589
Oh, right right right. Makes sense now.

>>5866582
Heaven's feel also implies that she might NOT die in Fate route. Saying that if maybe she had met him earlier their Fates would have changed is a tip off to something for sure

>>5866559

I think Archer also mentions how he couldn't save her some time in UBW as well.

>>5866605
Wait, that's the line that people infer means she's going to die in a year? Where the hell did the "a year" come from?

And I took that as a "I can't be with you. Maybe if we met earlier and before I fostered a hatred toward you for stealing Papa-sama away from me, we could have been a good brother and sister."

Gil getting beaten by Sakura. Cheap method to get him out of the story? Or legitimate power of Sakura?

>>5866573

Considering how the outside world does almost nothing during the massacres in HF. I wouldn't be surprised.

>>5866598
Shirou is his own father. He fucked Saber in a past battle and she gave birth to Shirou

>>5866598
Indeed. I'm more focused on whether or not his nationality is Japanese. After all, that city seemed to have a lot of foreigners and his hair is an odd color (although that's not much of an indication in a VN), and he grows up to be 6'2" which is fucking absurd for a Japanese person.

>>5866609
Archer's timeline is different from any of the three paths. Word of God from Nasu says that in Archer's grail war he early allied with Ilya. Creepy or not, Archer comes from Ilya route

>>5866605
No. Ilya will always die in one year.

And that Turning Fate stuff was supposed to be the happy life in Shirou's house

>>5866613
Cheap method to get him out of the story

>>5866598
Shirou's parents are Rance and Raidy

>>5866598
Jesus fucking christ...

Can you imagine the kind of god that he'd be if his dad had passed down his crest to him? With the innate time control and whatnot.

>>5866617
Why are we so certain about this?

Also one of my captcha words was fucking upside-down

>>5866626
Unlikely he'd even be able to utilize it.

>>5866626
But for balance concerns we learn that crests can only be passed down to biological children. Then again who knows what's in Shirou's parents' potential crests

>>5866617

>>5866616
loli sex makes you a hero?

>>5866613
Sakura technically has unlimited magical energy, and Gil*rightly) assumes 'one Gate of Babylon does it'.
So, both in a way(since people will argue Gil's consistent personality and mannerisms only serve for losing).
Gil, in all the F/SN routes is not mighty DURABLE.

>>5866635
Learning magic from someone that has an innate understanding of magic and is incredibly intelligent makes you a hero :3

Shirou only has 1 circuit all along.

He gained up to 27 when he became Achaa~

So, in short he is just a normal boy.

>>5866634
That would be an awesome route.

Saber nee-san and Ilya nee-san

>>5866635
Letting Ilya become your master, instead of Rin, who values individuality too much, makes you a hero, because Ilya would hone you into the finest weapon known to man with her training. She says such in FHA once. To an extent. Right before she tries to steal you from Rin...

I still want to know where the "in one year" comes from concerning Ilya's death.

>>5866632
It's more that it is a lengthy, painful process that you start while the body is young, so it accepts the foreign poison that is the crest, it does not have to be necessarily YOUR offspring.

>>5866616

Holy shit. Source please? I have not heard this before.

>>5866646
He always had 27.
It's just that he barely used 1 or 2 to do everything he does.
See UBW sequence in teh Gil FIght.

>>5866616
And he had the nerve to flirt with Rin during UBW.
The dog.

>>5866436
> Things you didn't understand in Fate/Stay Night.

Why there wasn't a Rider or Caster route.

>>5866646
Negative. the circuits he uses in UBW : archer said they were always there, and his attempt to make K&B blew the dormant circuits online. He's been making the single circuit the whole time because he didn't know how to access the dormant 27.

>>5866668
Budget

>>5866668
Sakura is a jealous slut.

Caster loves another, and I do not think Nasu specializes in NTR.

>>5866443

For all three routes I bet Rin got the Mage's association to include that in the clean up.

>>5866674
Well OBVIOUSLY in a Caster route she'd love Shirou, HURRRRRRRRRR

>>5866676
Yea it was probably Rin + the new hopefully not evil priest that got assigned. Which i believe that priest != the ataraxia girl. Since didn't dialogue mention that it was an nice older chap?

>>5866616
I'm sort of still reading HF, but my current theory is that after the events of Fate Shirou dedicates himself wholly to his goal of being a hero and becomes the original Archer/EMIYA. To me this makes sense because in that route he's discovering his powers and admires Saber and doesn't question his desire to protect people and so forth and yadda yadda yadda.

>>5866668
Issei route fucking where!?

>>5866682
You mean Caren, Kotomine's daughter?

>>5866685
'Last Episode' does imply this as well. But it's not certain for sure what continuity Archer came from. Actually thinking about Archer past too much gives me a headache because even when Archer was Shirou there was Archer. Damn servants being outside of time!

>>5866699
Wait she's WHAT!? I haven't actually gotten ahold of Ataraxia yet :(

It's too bad Archerko is non-canon.

>>5866701
Rin's Archer wasn't Archer in Archer's holy grail war.

>>5866704
It crashes for me at the beginning of the third chapter of the game, but yes, she is Kotomine's daughter.

>>5866676
>>5866682
Ah, okay. That puts my mind at ease. I mean, it's a pretty big thing to overlook. Also:

Did Assassin ever really exist? I mean, I know he says he's fictional, but I felt like he was sort of implying that he was a master swordsman who was completely ignored and forgotten by history and was summoned simply because of his skill.

>>5866704
I thought that was common knowledge these days.

[ ] Ask Issei about the woman in the Temple.
[ ] Never mind....

>>5866719
Fake assassin was a servant summoned by a servant, that's why he's fake. He wasn't really summoned the correct way.

>>5866721
>white hair
>gold eyes
god damn it

>>5866719
He was a no-name farmer who just happened to invent the technique known as Tsubame Gaeshi.

>>5866727
Fake Assasin does exist, he's simply not Kojiro and not an actual heroic spirit. He's a wraith, temporarily promoted to the job of servant because Caster summoned him and he can do the sword thing.

>>5866719

If you've read about Sasaki Kojirou. It makes sense.

Renowned swordsman. No historical confirmation. Only a legend.

illegitimate Servant summoned by a illegitimate Master.

>>5866719
Fake Assassin is just a farmer that lived around the temple, his spirit hung around the temple after he died as a wraith. His skills were as good as the supposed Sasaki Kojirou so he was given form to fulfill that role when Caster tried to summon a heroic spirit.

>>5866701
I know, I didn't wanna say it because 1.) it's confusing and 2.) I get all giddy because I have a thing for Saber, but... my hoe is that after the events of UBW, where Archer has come to terms with his heroic goals and life and whatnot, he's reunited with Saber a la the Realta Nua ending, which I imagine being this cool What Dreams May Come-esque world where you have complete control over everything, and maybe have the power to visit any point in history with the person you love and-

Er, sorry. See, this is why I don't talk about it, I get carried away.

>>5866722

This, along with going early to the Temple in Fate, were my two defeats.

I mean, really? Everyone was hypnotized with kill commands?

>captcha - especially wimsey

>>5866710
Ah, but Archer's Archer wasn't Archer in Archer's Archer Malcovich Malcovich.

I want a route where Caren shows up for FSN and gets involved in the war as well. Kotomine convinces her to seduce Shirou and does everything possible to make it happen, as well as torment Shirou. Caren kills Rin, kills Shinji, and generally turns Shirou darker, perverting his sense of justice and leading to anger towards her.

At the end, Shirou ends up having hatesex with Caren and going on to win the grail war. In the epilogue its revealed Caren has become pregnant, Shirou is suck with her, and Kotomine is rubbing his hands together with a justasplanned look on his face.

>>5866722
Best ending ever.

>>5866747
Caster's identity needed to be a secret.

>>5866761
But with kill commands?
As if that wouldn't draw attention?

>>5866756
Caren and Kotomine hate each other, so yeah.

(III-3654). overpaid
wat

>>5866756

If Nasu had the balls to make his universe that ultra dark. I would raise my hands in triumph.

>>5866762
Caster is a wizard, ain't gotta explain shit, etc.

Why does Rin forget how to have sex in the route where you actually have sex with her?

>>5866769
Because Nasu thought people would like Rin showing a pathetic deredere side instead of being dominant and aggressive like usual.

>>5866766
Heaven's feel wasn't dark enough for you?

>>5866769
A penis, Rin's only weakness.

>>5866770
Man, that's not how dere works...

>>5866764
substitute "convince" with "manipulate" and that should fix it for you.

>>5866762
Issei killed himself too in that End.

I don't think "command" is a right term, more like he is Caster's puppet.

>>5866769
What!? Rin is obviously flustered when you talk about Saber's needs in Good End.

>>5866769
Huh, good point...

I suspect she was significantly sluttier in the Fate universe. Especially with the difference in her reactions to seeing Shirou naked.

And where did Saber learn those blowjob skills? That always really bugged me how good she was.

>>5866775
>O-Onii-chan, how does penis work?

>>5866771
Heaven's Feel is like the "Goth lite" of the darkness scale.

>>5866783
She knows how to please a man. After all, she used to be one.

>>5866783
She was a man, once. Or, rather, she had a penis, once, thanks to Merlin.

Plus, soldiers in the medieval ages (or modern times, even) are not the most prudish of people. They fart, burp, and talk about sex loudly to pass the time.

>>5866783
Intelligent, caring, people can be remarkably good lays even as virgins. Pro-tip for /jp/ . Being really good at sex is just a matter of remembering what gets a good reaction and running with it.

>Fake Assasin does exist, he's simply not Kojiro and not an actual heroic spirit.

Well, shit. I feel like an idiot now. All my dreams fucking ruined.

>>5866801
Oh my... I should not be enjoying these I'm imagining as much as I do.

>>5866771

Not really dark. More just depressing.

Sure the Nasuverse is full of rape, violence, lust, masochism, and so force. But the main character is always moral, and is never corrupted (cept in bad ends of course). No main characters die midway through (also only in bad ends).

The Nasuverse is still pretty light compared to what Nitro+ has. Fate/zero exemplifies this considering it was written by Urobuchi.

>>5866823
I thought Nasu determined the ultimate fates of everyone in Fate/zero.

I don't like Fate/Zero's grimdarkness.

>>5866845
Not enough peaceful cooking days for you?

You now realize that Rider had sex with Rin to save her in the end of HF.

>>5866847
It can be really over the top at times.

Kiritsugu's hate filled tirade against heroic spirits for instance.

>>5866815
I feel so bad for Assassin...

He's the most ignored Servant, no one likes him, and depending on your interpretation, he's never even existed! What a tragic guy... and in UBW I think they say that he was able to fight off every single other Servant including Berseker. That poor, brave forgotten soul. Well no one ever really dies if they're remembered, and... and I'll remember you Assassin, the warrior who didn't even have a name...

>>5866845
But grimdark is awesome.

I really like games where you can see an extreme swing of a character's behavior and morals due to situations and experiences. Good routes and Evil routes.

>>5866864
It is a bit much, especially considering his own servant's personality is quite easy to handle.

Still, Lancer was handled quite well. The entire parts that involved him and his master (and his master's whore) were very well written. I was so emotionally moved.

>>5866839

Yes. But he doesn't determine that serial killer sacrifices a child and his family in order to summon a Caster-class Servant with a flesh covered grimoire.

>>5866866
Well, at least he gets his own theme.

>>5866438
Some people are born with magic circuits in them, with these they can use the magical energy that fills the world and themselves Taking this magic energy, called "Odo" if it comes from the caster and "mana" when it comes from outside the caster, they can recreate "miraculous" effects that have occurred in the world using scientific methods.

>>5866866
Yukika doesn't ignore Assassin!

>>5866894
FHA?

>>5866845
I thought it wasn't finished being translated.

>>5866892
One thing I've always wondered is what are the different classes of magic? We've got the strengthening/alteration/projection group that Shirou does, but there must be other classes right?

>>5866926
Well there's charm and other mind alteration spells. Curses like Rin's gandr and Angry Manjew. Lots of others I'm sure.

>>5866926
Whatever Nasu needs to fit the plot.

>>5867057
>>5867066
Mmm... he really oughta codify those things.

>>5867106
Then he won't have the freedom to write whatever he wants.

>>5867106
Not a single reason for him to do that

>>5867118
>>5867120
I think writers should have their worlds fully planned out before they start... well, clearly not all of them do, but I think it's better when that's the case.

>>5867137
Fucking brilliant.

>>5867156
Some writers write better when they give a structure to their worlds.
Some when they have more freedom and don't confine themselves.

Bad writing is when the world is too ridiculous to believe, either because the structure hasn't a strong enough foundation to support the outlandish concepts the writers say exist, or because the author never bothers to define/elucidate on some concepts he stated exists, or when there's too much lulsorandum.

>>5867106
Well, there are Curses, like Gandr and Geis, elemental spells(aka, Fire Spells, water spells etc), flow/transfer of power(the specialty of Tohsaka's and all), what Shirou seems to do(altering shit, like strengthening), Runes(Lancer uses a few)...
Then you have Divine Magic and Words(Caster), Alchemy(Sion is one), Numerology(Roa), Witychcraft(traditional shit likes hexes and shamanism), then you have the traditional Japanese magic system(What Souren uses)...

They are not classified or expanded within the main story, but theer is a semblance and mention of scools.

>>5866443
They died at the end of Fate route when Shirou refused to use the Grail to save them, I wouldn't know about the other 2 routes, but they probably died too.

>>5867156
Momentum is a primary force of how writers get shit done. Really expansive worlds don't really work well if you try and plan everything from scratch.

>>5867211
Their souls had been slowly drained for a decade and their bodies were rotting stumps. I don't think their chances of survival were that high.

>>5866598
Shirou always needed to remake his circuit until he was taught otherwise by Rin and the reason he needed to bother so much in the first place was because he didn't have any circuits.
And most of all, there's a scene with Archer and Shirou have a discussion about Rin being his mentor/teacher, during that conversation Archer states that Rin would never understand the magic of a "magic user" (not a magus) that even uses his own nervous system as his magic circuits (Normal magic circuits are a seperate entity from the nervous system.)

It is greatily implied that Shirou doesn't and or barely has any circuits and that he instead follows greatily un-orthodox methods.
It also explains why he has such troubles with magic that doesn't stem from UBW.

Then there's also the quotes
"It breaks. The overflowing magical energy cannot be controlled."
"But I don't care. This body is a circuit specialized to use this "one magic" from the start"
"There should be something beyond this if I can't make it with this circuit"

Why I couldn't bang Ilya.

God I wanted to so bad.

WHERE IS MY ARCHERK ROUTE???

Talking about crests, what the fuck is Shirou talking about here? He doesn't have a magic crest and I doubt he knows about Chris-chan.

Also, in Fate Ilya was furious when a nameless hero dared to kill Berserker 5 times without revealing his true identity. However in Heavens Feel Ilya implied several times that she knows the connection between Shirou and Archer.
How did she know about that? After the heroic spirits die in the war they return into the Grail, in that case into Ilya.
-Does she obtain their memories or what? This would seem logical, but in Fate this didn't happen, because Ilya was furious.
-Could it be that in Fate Archer couldn't remember his true indentity until the very end? This doesn't make much sense either, because Archer gave numerous advices to Shirou. Also, in the anime it was clear that he remembered.
-Was Ilya smart enough to figure it out herself by the compatibility of Archer's arm and the similarity of their mindset? That would imply that Ilya is smarter than Rin, because Rin didn't get this.

>>5868574
Ilya is possibly aware of some stuff about the servants she absorbs via her grail-nature, since she says I think that she managed to get archer before the black grail could and she understands things now. Alternatively yes she is probably equal to or more intelligent than Rin.

>>5868482
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Emiya_Shirou
Shirou's basic training in Magecraft was extremely lacking, so he was left with the idea that he needs to create a new Magic Circuit with each use of Magecraft. He goes through extremely dangerous training, which he describes as the feeling of inserting a hot iron rod into his spine, where he constantly faces the risk of death in order to develop a new Circuit. Though his body has twenty-seven natural Magic Circuits, they have been abandoned for his nerves, which have become makeshift Magic Circuits due to his training.

>>5868574
Possibly Iliya hadn't taken in enough Servants for her to shift into Container mode. Otherwise she should have gotten all his memories I believe, quite possibly even the memories from his own lifetime and the relation they had.

>That would imply that Ilya is smarter than Rin, because Rin didn't get this.
I don't think that would be quite it.
In UBW RIn caught on rather quickly, she just never accepted it until much later, most likely because it's all 4th wall breaking shit and is under normal circuimstances not possible, and humans reaching heroic spirit class is also on the chance of a miracle.
The Einsberns on the other hand, the fabled "Master race", are all about 4th wall breaking so it wouldn't feel as impossible for her.
The allmighty grail itself is based on the Einsberns' Sorcery Trait, "Wish Granting".

Then again I doubt she figured it out by herself, it really looked like she knew stuff.

>>5868613
She does figure out some things for sure like she figures out in HF Shirou is making himself square peg round hole. It's just more likely that she used knowledge in the case of Archer.

This may have been asked before, but could Shirou (given enough time and research) do with UBW what Nero did with Lair of the Beast King? Or is Nero an exception among exceptions?

wwwww

>>5868574
He's probably talking about the command spell tattoo.
It's also implied Ilya acquired Archer's knowledge by absorbing him, yeah. Could be it happened because of system irregularities since there were two Grails functioning at the same time.
Disregard the anime, since it tried to jam a lot of things together without cring for coherence.

>>5868632
I bet it could be done.
But what Nero did with his RM was the result of his life work research on how to reach immortality, and in the end he managed to come up with a formula to merge with his RM.

That is to say, I don't think it's easy, it's not "sorcery" so to speak but I guess it could be as troublesome to suceed in that as it would be to become a sorcerer.

>>5868632
Do what? Keep his reality marble active internally? What's the point of that when he can already pull swords out of it?

>>5868610
If you can create new circuits like that why wouldnt all the mages be doing it as a way to increase their magic power?

>>5868667
I think Shirou's marble IS active internally since you see it's properties like sword analysis and pulling swords out are always active once Shirou knows how to tap into them.

>>5868676
Because Shirou was only rewiring his nervous system to do it, so there's a finite limit to how many you can 'create.' And it's absurdly dangerous/potentially fatal to do each time, hence why Rin flips the hell out when she finds out what he's doing.

>>5868667
I was referring to turning his body into a portal to UBW, like Nero does with his, and shooting swords out of it. It would provide defensive advantages too.

>>5868723
Isn't that pretty much what happened near the end of HF?

>>5868687
Eh theres no shortage of mages willing to take risk for gains.

>>5868610
>since she says I think that she managed to get archer before the black grail could and she understands things now
I don't really understand what you're trying to say here.

>>5868613
>Possibly Iliya hadn't taken in enough Servants for her to shift into Container mode.
In Fate Archer died fairly early and in HF iirc he was the only one Ilya was able to absorb at that time. Maybe she could get Caster too, but I'm not sure about that. Anyway, I don't remember when she started to get sick, but both times she seemed well enough after absorbing Archer.
What you say about Rin makes sense. She probably didn't say it because she wasn't sure about it and telling Shirou or somebody else wouldn't make much difference. Though she still couldn't understand what Archer/Shirou was doing, because the replica sword she made for Shirou was of no use to him, while Ilya knew that from the start.

>>5868791
the thing is, there's nothing to gain. Creating a magic circuit through your own nervous system, while risking your life doing it is incredibly inefficient. It's like spending all your money to buy an experimental solar-panel car that can malfunction any time and goes at 1/4 the speed of a normal car. You have a nice, regular car and the key for it somewhere, but weren't told it at all so you think that shitty car is worth all the money and hassle. But it's not.

>>5868831
doesnt it give you an extra circuit to use?

>>5868862
Technically yes, but it's not "new" as in created from nothing, he's just using his nervous system as a magic circuit because he wasn't told how to properly activate them and he wants to train nonetheless.
Why should people with already established magic circuits bother with that? Why risk your life each time you cast something for a subpar substitute of the real thing, when can use easily the real thing?

>>5868871
So Shirou's 27 circuits are actually 27 nerves?

>>5868876
Now you're getting things mixed up. Pre-Rin training Shirou was modifying his nervous system to create a circuit.

Shirou also has 27 real magic circuits.

>>5868871
Cant you use both?

>>5868882
Are you trolling or that fucking stupid?

>>5868880
oh okay.

I wonder if it's possible to make some sort of abomination made of stitched together people with their nervous systems turned to magic circuits.

>>5868882
You'd probably just die if you didn't have that sheath protecting you like Shirou

>>5868912
Sounds like something that Urobuchi would think up.

Fucking Caster, how does she work

>>5868912
Number of circuits isn't really as desirable in the Nasuverse as circuit quality. Circuits tend to mess with the body (even the proper kind). So having an excess could be dangerous.

Not to mention that low quality ones like Shirou's have a higher risk of burning out, and they don't always come back when they do that.

>>5868963
Caster's from the Age of Gods, which in the Nasuverse is a free pass for bullshit to happen because magic was much more hardcore back then.

>>5868963
Casters supposed to be a witch known for enchantments, not laser beam spam...

>>5868963
Well I imagine you'd have to get her to like you first before you could - oh, wait...

We do know Shirou used his nerves as magic circuits.
We also know he has 27 circuits.

But how can we know that these 27 circuits aren't his nerves? Or how can we know that not some of these 27 circuits are his nerves?
My point being, how can we know that these 27 circuits are magic circuits seperate from his nerves?

>>5869057
'Cuz Nasu said so.

I always thought Shirou simply made a fuckton of circuits in his daily training that just lie dormant, so he can use them all at once for his ridiculous 10-count magic.

>>5869083
Didn't he only say he had 27 magic circuits?

>>5868985

>>5869057
Well if the wiki means anything, his magic nerves were only temporary and turned back to normal nerves later. (makes sense, or his body would end up numb/paralyzed after a while)

It also says 27 isn't that much

>>5869117
I'll be sure to get permission before I do anything Caster.

>>5869120
27 is a good number.

Average magus = 10 - 20

>>5869148
if an average magus is 7, then shirou is just 8.8

>>5868985
I wish Caster liked me

Why is it called Fate/Stay Night?

>>5869181
Because Saber is a knight and he wants her to stay.

>>5869120
Magi turn off and on their circuits. When ever Shirou makes firing hammer analogies that's him turning on/off circuits

Why is Gil sto stupid?

>>5869281
Gil is not stupid,just arrogant.

But i don't think i have seen Gil do something smart.

>>5869291
Attempting to destroy the Shadow before things got out extremely out of hand was a good idea, of course he wasn't smart enough to make sure he actually killed it...

>>5869181
Fate/Stay in the kitchen

>>5869281
Because he's the King of Carelessness.

Not the King of Stubbornness or the King of Awesome.

>>5869319

That nooooooose

I'd Cast'er, if you know what I mean

So I just recently finished the fate scenario for the first time, and I could not get over the ending, what did you guys think?

>>5869713
Explain further

>>5869715
Dead Saber is dead

>>5869715
Her last knight was a nice touch. Who was that again? Galahad?

Caster should have had a route

>>5869755
I think it was Bedivere, I'll start the Unlimited Blade Works soon, hope it doesn't get me as depressed as Fate did..

>>5869773

UBW >> Heaven's Feel >>>>>>>> Fate

>>5869783
Good to know that the other scenarios won't be underwhelming compared to fate

>>5869773
>hope it doesn't get me as depressed as Fate did..

>>5869825
God damn you, you snobby piece of shit.

Haven't read HF yet, but goddamn I hate Sakura.

She is the only thing keeping me from reading that scenario.

It's just that I hate her voice. So much.

>>5869850
I hate Rin's more

It sounds like she's 10 years old its that sqeaky

>>5869850
>>5869879
I never played with the voices. Just made them up in my mind as to how they best fit the characters.

Only installed voices after completed the game, and even then, only to go listen to Ilya's.

The voices I heard while I ctrl'd to an Ilya scene seemed really off. Sakura's fit perfectly with my imagination, though. Hated it, too.

>>5869879

You are saying Sakura's voice sounds more mature than Rin's?

The only VA I liked was Caster's

>>5869715
That's not the "ending." If you have access to the Realta Nua stuff there's technically an epilogue you can unlock and it is 100% worth it to do so.

>>5869850
Why just don't untick Saukra voice?

>>5869961

I would keep imagining it.

I wish I never heard it.

>>5869901
Rin face looks like a old woman here.

Quick question, /jp/

Is Fate/Hollow translated yet?

>>5870192
There's a 20% patch.
They have 40% translated.

>>5870192
Yeah, the group that was translating it before dropped it, but some anons took over and actually managed to release a decent translation, to the surprise of everyone. You can find it at the usual place.

>>5870214
>>5870216

So, erm, what? Yes, I know what place you mean, not questioning that.

>>5870225
So it is 40% translated, with a 20% patch out, if you want to settle for that.

Are you illiterate?

>>5870233
I get that, obviously. But the other poster said it was a decent translation, which had me thinking it was complete.

Anyhow, my bad. Are the anons still working on it?

>>5870244
They were told off for being idiots and not working with the translation already being done.
If they're working on it, they're doing so on the tlwiki.

>>5870244
Fucking hell, I AM illiterate.

Don't mind me.

If Archer's wish was to kill Shirou, why didn't he just stab him when he was escorting him home in UBW? He was clearly faking amnesia at that point

>>5870988
Two possibilities (or both)
1) Archer was still a bit conflicted about this plan
2) Archer wanted to handle things in a way that wouldn't get RIN killed too (hence his plot to kill off Caster, have Saber contract with Rin, and probably kill Gil too)

>>5870988
but that wouldn't be dramatic. Realism makes for bad fiction.