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I like her. I think Tange Sakura does good with her voice.

Can anyone help me with the choices in the game? My Kanji is weak since I just started learning Chinese one weak ago. So how do the choices affect the game? Is there a certain set of choice I need to make in order to unlock the fight with Shiki?

Don't know, haven't played/understood the plot. They better have a good explanation for her identity though. It's like they were trolling with revealing her name starts with "Lu". Lucius Artorius Castus would have been the perfect identity and explained why she looked like Artoria, but then it turned out she was just some incompetent fat guy who had no real combat experience at all.

>>5814442
wasn't this whole Artorius Castus thing a hoax as well. Something about him being a combination of 2 Romam generals or so?

Someone mind updating me as to what this is about?

>>5814442
"The history of Nero’s reign is problematic in that no historical sources survived that were contemporary with Nero. These first histories at one time did exist and were described as biased and fantastical, either overly critical or praising of Nero. The original sources were also said to contradict on a number of events. Nonetheless, these lost primary sources were the basis of surviving secondary and tertiary histories on Nero written by the next generations of historians.

The bulk of what is known of Nero comes from Tacitus, Suetonius and Cassius Dio, who were all of the Patrician class. Tacitus and Suetonius wrote their histories on Nero over fifty years after his death, while Cassius Dio wrote his history over 150 years after Nero’s death. These sources contradict on a number of events in Nero’s life including the death of Claudius, the death of Agrippina and the Roman fire of 64, but they are consistent in their condemnation of Nero."

Basically, we almost know nothing on Nero.

In Nasuverse, Nero was a capable general fighter who indulged in debauchery and loved to have fun, and when Claudius died, rose up due to charisma. But while she loved the people and just wanted everyone to have a good time, people did not appreciate it and found her antics unfitting.
Enter such dissenters and christians setting Rome on fire and putting the blame on her.
So, even with the charisma and actual qualities, you are not allowed to have fun as a leader, is the lesson.
Suffered from headaches almost constantly, loved taking baths, loved singing and had almost divine luck.

But after her death, she was bashed and demonized by Historians.

>>5814436
What's the point in playing it if you can't read it at all? It's not like the gameplay is great.

>>5814474
this if Saber from Fate/Extra. Who isn't Arthur there but Nero. Since she is some kind of Historical Type Servant
Mythical Type Servant in fate/extra is Saver with a twist in being Gawain

>>5814486
Nero was a man tho? Well I guess that didn't stop anyone the first time tho.

VC: me summoner (really?)

>>5814462
Which is still perfect, as that's exactly the case with Assasin, an entity that's a combination of several samurai, and they could have made comparisons.

>>5814480
Wow so she is like the complete opposite of Fate!Saber who was rather uptight
You know I can see how they talked smack about her for being a fun loving person if you see how power hungry most senators were.

>>5814401
Shiki can kill 100 servants.
This is indisputable truth.

>>5814508
it gets even better, Sir Francis Drake is that sexy pirate chick

>>5814516
Pretty much ,yeah.
She even acts cocky during battles and mocks the opponent .Still prideful, but in a different way.
Also, the 'divine luck' aspect is different from Arthuria's.
It's more akin to 'performed feats that her physical capabilities would not normally allow', rather than 'change fate' style. Extreme example would be 'slipping in a banana peel, doing 20 flips and landing perfectly somehow'. It's as if Fate wanted her to succeed in her actions, rather than 'shield her'.

She also is not like Arturia who was all like 'Imma a warrior, no point if I am naked or not(till she got boned of course', she is rather shameless/

>But while she loved the people and just wanted everyone to have a good time, people did not appreciate it and found her antics unfitting.

;_;

>>5814525
You can also kick her ass easily with whichever Servant you have.
thus, ARCHAA is the strongest.

>>5814486
>Mythical Type Servant in fate/extra is Saver with a twist in being Gawain
Saver is the last boss, Mahavairocana/Dainichi Nyorai, Gawain is a regular Saber. He did take his avatar from "Saver" as in the original King Arthur, just like Nero took hers from Arturia.

>>5814542
She was not copying the actions of random citizens and harassing them on the streets, that is for sure.
And was actually, you know, alive/

So in the end Alexander is the one true bro king that people generally loved, which includes the people he defeated.

Too bad she isn't Julius Ceasar, dammit you have to admit she fucking Cleopatra would've been nice..

>>5814561
He technically did not even REIGN in the places he conquered, he assigned people, set some basic rules and he marched on. He could be a King, A pharaoh, whatever. But he wanted to reach the other side.

>what does /jp/ of the new Saber?
I do her ass.

>>5814532
Ya know where's that pic of the Fate and Ikkitousen characters meeting with their RL legend counterparts?
Needs to be updated somewhat.

>>5814583
This game is awesome for all the wrong reasons.

>So what does /jp/ of the new Saber?

A game replacing the hugely popular main character with a new one that just so happens to have the exact same character design to minimize fan revolt? where have i heard that be for?...

And the name is Nero to boot

>>5814607
Too bad Arturia is not also present, for a Saber duel/

So, in the end both Arcueid and Ryougi got in this mess.

With that considered, which is the one who was advertised as "the strongest TM being" with that shadow figure?

>>5814607
Dante was playable in DMC4 tho, with his own move sets, weapons and battles.

>So what does /jp/ of the new Saber?

Far superior to the old Saber that's for sure.

Hnnggh,fat neckbeard moe~

>>5814616
it was obviously Arcueid, come on

>>5814616

Sakura.

>>5814623
Nero got most of the spot light though, and the story was very much about him
you could say Dante was just there for shit and giggles

>>5814616
Who knows ?Ryougi is the secret boss, but Arc is both harder and fights you in a much weaker state.

>>5814623
>tho
Can you not spell properly? Fuck.

>>5814633
Dante is always there for shit and giggles.

>>5814645
Noppers.

Tamae no Mae is an impure slut

>>5814653
not in 1 and 3 he wasn't...in the end

>>5814672
NO U.

>>5814676
Dante is the embodiment of "winging it", he just happens to save the world several times over along the way.

>>5814672
>>5814594
She just wants you to love her.

>>5814672

Fuck you nigger,Tama is your waifu and she fully acknowledges it with joy.

>>5814689
if she is like this with a female character too I'd never let her out of the bed

>>5814691


But she was already the waifu of the emprah of japan.

THAT MEANS SHE'S USED GOODS:

Is this game worth playing if you can't understand moon?

>So what does /jp/ of the new Saber?

is served best with the gladiator soundtrack

>>5814702
Why, what does it say?

>>5814706
More like crush, not waifu.

>>5814706
Dude she has a sacred pussy. From those wombs, other gods and goddesses were
born. Sometimes, whole seas or swaths of darkness
emerged from that lady crevasse.

Those will be eternally tight!

>>5814722

EROTIC BLACKHOLE

WHAT A SLUT

>>5814442
>It's like they were trolling with revealing her name starts with "Lu"
>Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus (15 December AD 37 – 9 June AD 68),[1] born Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus
>Lucius
hurr

>>5814735
Tamamo had children? As far I know, emperor fell deeply in love with her, then he mysteriously fell ill, Abe no Yasuchika tell him that is Tamamo curse, she flee and Kazusa-no-suke and Miura-no-suke hunt and kill her. The end.

>>5814735
doesn't matter I bang 'em all

>>5814735
>list of things that all emerged from her
>blackhole
you just went full retard

And now you imagine both Saber meeting and comforting each other

This will never be translated ;_;

>>5814808
fan translation then, wouldn't be the first

>>5814826
It won't get a fan translation.

>>5814835
that's what people said about Front Mission 5 and huh look at that there is one.

>>5814808
This will be translated, you will see.

>>5814835
I would have tried to work on it if someone hacked the rom, which isn't happening so yeah.

>>5814537
So Saber Extra is a kinda bro-ish?

>>5814840
What's your point? This title won't get one, and even if it started, it wouldn't finish.

>>5814847
Not really, no. Bro of the three is Archer.
>>5814840
>>5814841
PSP games do not get worked on ever.
It's quite the rocky road

>>5814851
Why wouldn't there be an official translation?

>>5814857
MH2ndG has an English patch dude.

>>5814857
And I still say, this will be oficially translated.

You will see.

Can't be rockier than translating a PS2 game...oh well noit my cup of tea anyway
btw. doesn't Rani remind you a little of Anthy from Utena?

>>5814868
I only ever said there won't be a fan translation. Don't recall an official is not ever coming.

>>5814857
too bad seeing as she is such a fun loving person she could've been a cool bro as well

>>5814870
That is ONE game.
It's too little, in comparison.
There is no standard scene for hacking and shit.

>>5814880
Obviously, that's why a loli anthy makes me instantaneously hard.

...and dorkier, according to the captcha.

>>5814894
Rani isn't a loli...

>>5814889
She is kinda too self-conscious for BRO role.
She is the EMPRESS, after all.
Still ,adorable in her mannerisms.

I just got my copy in yesterday (the LE box so I have a figma too and stuff) and just got through the "intro".

Finally got Saber and now I just need to keep doing stuff until the game starts for real I suppose.

I'll be mad if you could somehow try to romance Saber even as a female but I'll probably miss it because I can't read kanji. Though it seems, usually, this follows the "top option is best". Usually.

>>5814875
Haha. Why do I picture in my head that there will be a shitload of kids thinking they know shit about this game after they read a horrible translation that has nothing to do with the original content and maybe even English dub.

>>5814880
And who has translated a PS2 game?

>>5814907
There is no romancing in this game.

>>5814907
>Though it seems, usually, this follows the "top option is best". Usually.

Save often then, because you're in for some dead ends.

>>5814907
You will hit at LEAST one dead end in the first two hours that way.
Just save often.

>>5814919
Subtext exists, depending somewhat on choices, but yeah, not a focus by any means.

>>5814908
Unlimited Codes translation was pretty good.

>>5814919
I heard somewhere else that someone tried to romance Caster. It felt like it was going to H scene, but then it cut to black and Caster spoke saying to "Turn off the PSP and go to the bathroom".

>>5814921
I know I avoided the "intro" DEAD ENDs because someone was nice enough to have a walkthrough of the intro and the first day I think. THen it just turns into "Talk to everyone with a yellow bubble and have fun".

So I will expect to probably get a lot of DEAD ENDs.

>>5814923
A subtext is fine too. But I'm unsure if it's even possible or not if you play the schoolgirl.

>>5814941
Sweet EMIYA lovin.

>>5814910
http://frontmission.info/wiki/pmwiki.php/Main/About

And Namco x Capcom was translated via patch as well

>>5814759
I know. I was referring to the fact that it would lead one to think that it could be Lucius Artorius Castus, which happens to explain his similarities to the original Saber, lessening the blatant extent of fanservice and desire to cash in on FSN while they can. Now we're left with absolutely no explanation as to why he just happens to look like, and even dresses like Artoria Pendragon.

>>5814947
I meant with Saber.

Also which Shiki is in this? My friend wants to know so he can tell how fucked I am.

Haven't played it yet but she looks awesome.
Fucking disappointed in Caster, hoped for more badass but I guess the moe waifu charas are unavoidable.

>>5814952
I dunno, why is Cú Chulainn dressed like Tron?

>>5814956

Ryougi

>>5814952
Protip: Virtual skins seen in the Seraph are not necessarily the proper ones(aka, 100% faithful depiction). Plus, cosmic coincidences happen. Arturia was descended from Roman generals who looked like blond girls.
>>5814956
Ryougi.
Actual battle is easier than the Berserkers.

>>5814941
Well, there is no H obviously, but when you tell Caster that you like her, she goes even more dere dere, blushes, almost lost her mind...

And then she begin to call you 旦那さま.

Caster is pure love.

Is there any kind of rough idea of whats going on this? I can only guess something about virtual reality or something, judging by the random bits of code/computer that pop up.

>>5814984
And when you ask 'Is there a Save point nearby', she says 'Better load up those saves' and WHOOPS.

>>5814968
Well, she's kind of badass.

She's like "fuck with my master and i will give you a horrible and painful death!"

Why choose someone like Nero? Roman history has tons of better emperors who resemble a lot more the "chivalrous knight" archetype that Saber has always been.

>>5815008
Cause they do not care about being faithful to real world history, rather build a fun character with traits that allude to what litthe we know about Nero, but with a completely different history within that universe.
Or something?

>>5814993
>Extra is set in Fuyuki City, Japan, during the 2030s. The world is controlled by a conglomerate of megacorporations called the Western European Zaibatsu, who have restricted global technological development, forcing most people around the world to live at a level of technological equivalent to that of the early 21st century. The world’s mana has also depleted for an unknown reason, spelling the end of the vast majority of the world’s magi.

>However, in 2032 the discovery of the Moon Cellular Automaton – an ancient, seemingly omnipotent device – has threatened to change the world order. The MCA created a pocket dimension on Earth capable of effecting external phenomena on the laws of reality, called the Serial Phantasm, or SE.RA.PH. Furthermore, it installed a system within Seraph that would enable 128 individuals to compete for this Holy Grail that would let the winner change the world at will.

>You are a student at Tsukumihara Academy, the location around which the MCA created its Reality Marble. You are chosen to compete in the Grail War, but what you don’t know is that the eyes of the world are on the Grail, and there are those who would stop at nothing to get it.

>>5815008
- Historic figure with no contemporary historical sources. Check!
- Conflictive background. Check!

Also all >>5814480

>>5815008
Because there is nothing saying Saber has to be a "chivalrous knight".

>>5815008
Why have NURSERY RHYME as caster?
Because.
That is it.
This ain't 'real world figures and the most politically correct versions of legends only'

>>5815024
Well, the Nursery Rhyme is explained in-game as very big anomaly.

And... it's a very crappy Servant.

>>5815008
I haven't seen Arturia!Saber fucking her sister because her most loyal Knight fucked and stole her queen away.

>>5815015
Word

>>5815031
Nero is also explained, and starts of very crappily too.
People complain for the heck of it.

>>5815018
Thank you very much.

Alright in the first "dungeon". How does the game determine how many of the enemy's moves you get to see anyway?

I really know nothing.

>>5815045
>I haven't seen Arturia!Saber fucking her sister because her most loyal Knight fucked and stole her queen away.
now that you remind me, did they talk about this in Fate/Zero, Berserker being Lancelot and all?
Did Arturia just go "I know Guinevere is not a lesbian but there's proper forms to follow, man" or did they present a twist to the cuckolding?

>>5815015
Well, it just sounded like they decided on a "it has to be a popular and recognizable historic character but not so popular (eg Caesar) as to not be pretentious" basis.

>>5815059
Matrix level.
Enhanced as you win battles, level up and with story events.
Visit teh church to get upgrades.
>>5815062
Guinevere just stood there. No copulation. Explains why it was even easier for Lancelot and why Saber was so forgiving.

>>5815071
Considering some other guys used in the game, this reasoning makes little sense.

>>5815062
She just knew everything from the beginning and never opposed Lancelot and Guinevere love, as they were her friends.

But then Guinevere as accused and...

>>5815062
Unfortunately, no, precisely because Lancelot was Berserker, so just like Hercules, he just goes on a rampage until he dies, gets 10 seconds of "oh hey I can talk lol" and then goes.

>>5815073
Thanks.

Hmmm walked into one of the doors near the classroom, 2-B I think which had some purple crack-lines on it and now some dialogue with Saber...

What are the significance of these events, if any? I've got 3 options in front of me, of course no idea what they mean.

I should've learned japanese.

And people are bitching about Extra Saber being Nero oh well.

I like the quote in the OP pic by the way, the little errors aside

panem et circeses means bread and circusses right?
that old roman saying

>>5815124
I find more bitcheable the thing with Francis Drake, as with Nero makes more or less sense... but with Drake...

>>5815137
what would Nathan Drake say about all this heh

>>5815084
>But then Guinevere as accused and...
so it was a "duty over emotions" thing again? Fits with Saber, I guess.

>>5815142
'As a female, my boobs would be bigger!'

>>5815137
Someone translated Drake backstory in Extra?

>>5815151
If I think about it I'm starting to like this new Saber.
"Have fun my citizens" but neglecting her duties in a way

While normal Saber was more uptight and dutiful but had to neglect whats important

>>5814569
There is only one woman that can be Julius Ceasar and that is Shizuru Fujino, believe me it makes sense if you read thise one epic fanfic, Inter Nos.

Oh so the artbook was right here... boy I feel dumb, thought it was the CD.

I think she is a slut, just like she was before.

>>5815190
YEah, that's probably what they were aiming at, the exact opposite of Arturia's ruling principle.
Whereas she was the perfect king, but people ended up hating her, Nero was all about keeping the people entertained, but ended up as a shitty/badmouthed ruler.

>>5815211
>epic fanfic
>epic
>fanfic

>>5815237
I think it has like 50 chapters and is like 700,000 words long and is still ongoing
If it is THAT fanfic anon was talking about

>>5815213
Nero!Saber is only allowed to be a slut if she has hot sex with other guests of an all female bath
You know having "fun and enjoyment" with them

When can you go the church to get upgrades?

I just got to the second day, had to fight Rider that belonged to that blue-haired kid (and lost), is that bad?

>>5815410
You cannot even recognize SHINJI quality?

>>5815415
The only name thus far i could read was Alice.
Then again I been kind of just hitting 'O' a lot since I saw his name before had kanji in it, I don't know any kanji.

Kneel before your Empress!

>>5815450
>groria
I sure love me some ratin

Caster is my waifu.

ROMANES
EUNT
DOMUS

What is the prompt that comes up when you try to leave the "dungeon"?

>>5815495
ＲＯＭＡＮＥＳ・ＥＶＮＴ・ＤＯＭＶＳ

>>5815450
>groria

>>5815532

Slut.

Is Nero Saber a slut?

>>5814401
I dropped the game when I found out she was Nero. Fucking retarded.
I thought that having Vlad Tepes be Lancer was very witty though. Why the flying fuck couldn't I use him? I could have reinacted all the bloodbaths from Hellsing.

>>5815499
Anyone?

>>5815638
I'm still baffled that Li Shu Wen, an undefeated spearmaster called "God of the Spear" and died only to assassination via poison, was Assassin though.

>>5815638
You would not be able to do anything other than fighting in the Arena and defeating masters, really.
And really, accepting everything else about the game, and not a different universe's nero with vague facts that allude to him but completely different' is just retarded.

>>5815708
Well, he was also a master of martial arts, particlualrly BajiQuan.
Still not very assassiney, but hey, when you want to assassinate, you attract much less attention with just your fists.

>>5815638
That right there is the biggest disapoint for me. I don't mind that Nero is Saber, but if Vlad is in the game then I want to fucking use him.

>>5815708
Because he was famous because his "one hit kills"? That make you a good assassin.

He probably can be summoned as Lancer too, that's true.

>>5815638
>I dropped the game when I found out she was Nero. Fucking retarded.
Just don't chose her? There's still Archer if you want cool and Tamamo if you want cute.
Not playing the whole game because of one name is kind of retarded.

>>5815708
They used the Bajiquan "killer move" version of him, not the spearmaster.

He was the one who said the line "I only need one strike" after all.

>>5815499
Sorry to be a nag but uh, anyone know? When prompts come up, I assume there's a reason to ask if I want to leave the "dungeon".

>>5815781
But I fucking wanted Vlad, to be honest. And I did restart with Archer, by the way.

>>5815732
Nero was one of the biggest reasons. Genderbend Francis Drake was also fucking stupid. Are there really not enough awesome females in mythos and history?

>>5815850
Not nearly as interesting as genderbent awesome males.
I am not sure why you demand any kind of accuracy.

>>5815850
Nero is that vague as historical figure that it make more or less sense of him being a woman (or alien!)

Drake... not.

>>5815850
Joan of Arc and Mulan are two that come to mind for real life figures...and interestingly, both genderbent themselves to pretend to be males.

Guess that means they ought to be oho-hot guys~ in the next part of the franchise.

>>5815850

While Drake is a bit ridiculous,it's fiction,it's free to make up shit as it goes. However the one thing I can't understand is why in the world are you getting frustrated when it comes to Nero. I dont know much of that persons history but apparently,everyone hated him,called him insane and he went down as a horrible ruler.

Really,I can understand Drake perhaps but getting angry at the whole Saber = Nero thing is kinda... Eh?

>>5815872
>interesting
Eh, whatever floats your boat. I like there to be at least SOME degree of accuracy. F/SN had it, for example, so I could forget about Saber being King Arthur.

>>5815929
But why Nero? He has absolutely nothing mythical about him, as much as I remember.

>>5816109
Drake neither.

But this war is not the Einzberns Heaven's Feel using the Throne of Heroes.

The Moon Cell Aumotaton records all plantet earth organisms, so Nero and Tamamo can appear. So this seems not only eirei related.

And even so, Nero is a figure that despised that can enter in the tradicional Reverse Heroes.

>>5816109
WHo said it HAS to be mythical?
Yo can take real life figures and add whatever you wnat.
Like the hassans. Nevermind the fact this Grail War works differently
You have set weird limitations concerning what is 'acceptable' and not.

What does a green portal in a dungeon mean? I Haven't been able to save for hours since I don't know what that prompt is when I try to leave, and you can't save inside.

>>5816273

Green portal is the exit. If you cant leave,it means you havent fufilled the requirement that allows you to leave the dungeon you're in.

Usually that requirement is to just get the Trigger Card from one of the boxes in the dungeon. Backtrack and start opening those boxes you lazy faggot.

>>5816388
Well I get a prompt to come up when I try to leave that is 'Yes' or 'No', but I'm not sure what the prompt is about.

Last time I left the dungeon, the day count went up by one.

And yeah the day count went up by 1. I can't tell if this is bad or not but I wasn't about to risk some boss fight and have to lose hours of progress.