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5736422 No.5736422 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /jp/, you probably heard this question a thousand times but here it goes any way:
Is there any reason why Ryukishi07 is still doing own art work instead of hiring someone that can actually draw?

>> No.5736428

He's autistic.

>> No.5736434

>>5736422
But how will he get better if he doesn't draw?

>> No.5736436

severe autism

>> No.5736448

It's more personal that way? Maybe he enjoys it? You could ask the same thing about ZUN.

>> No.5736449
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5736449

Who cares, the faces are great.

The faces only though.

>> No.5736454

ask ZUN.

>> No.5736455

Fucking autists jumping on the autism bandwagon

>> No.5736460

>>5736449
They look like shit I made with SM64 starting screen.
Eurgh...

>> No.5736466

>>5736448
this

>> No.5736470

Actually he's keeping the art bad so he can sell an enhanced console version of Umineko later.

You know, like what he did with Higurashi.

>> No.5736471

>>5736455
Shut up you autistic faggot.

>> No.5736490

>>5736428
>>5736436
>>5736471
>My first troll

>> No.5736492
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>>5736460

>> No.5736514

>>5736490
>I have autism.

>> No.5736517
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>> No.5736518

Because the shocking twist at the end of Umineko is that they're all dinosaurs living in prehistoric times!

>> No.5736567

Well, I, for one, like the meat fists and strange faces.

>> No.5736578

I'd rather look at R07's art than some generic soulless shit like PS2 Higurashi. He knows how to make some disturbing eyes and faces.

>> No.5736583

>>5736567
I like the strange faces. The meat fists though....

>> No.5736594

>>5736518
Lies, they're already all dead.

>> No.5736605

>>5736578
I'd rather look at decent art that express the same emotions then over-exaggerated blobs.

>> No.5736607
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5736607

Because the artist would end all the magic in the art that Umineko is
Look at this example of Jorji-kun

>> No.5736610

>>5736607
The left one is much better.
It's just bad direction, cause he did not make him FULL OF LARD.
If he drew him fat., it would be fine.

>> No.5736627 [DELETED] 

>>5736610
>The left one is much better.
>my face

[spiller]no face[/spoiler]

>> No.5736618

>>5736610
Left one has no life to it.

>> No.5736619
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>>5736610
Did i heard FAT?

>> No.5736625

>>5736618
Neither does the right one.
They are drawings.
Is your silly estimation of 'SOOOOOOUL' how you justify shitty drawings?

>> No.5736636

>>5736607
That's only because the artist decided to put his own twist on things there and make George not be
FAT
FAT
FAT

>> No.5736638

>>5736610
Left looks too puny
He is supposed to be a little chubby.

>> No.5736639

>>5736625
R07's art has charm to it, no matter how shitty it is.

>> No.5736640

>>5736638
...Exactly what I said?

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>>5736619

>> No.5736648

>>5736639
It has the same charm, as seeing a 3 year old kid's shitty drawing that it tries it's best but can do no better.Except he is a grown man.
You can like shit if you want, but deluding yourself and thinking it is better than proper artwork is just sad.

>> No.5736649

im use too the umineko art, and its not bad, Higurashi though i couldn't read it without the patch..., just my opinion though.

>> No.5736672

It's a doujin work. His commercial works have professional art.

>> No.5736682

>>5736648
Opinions, man. How do they work?

>> No.5736688
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5736688

Umineko is art

>> No.5736702

>>5736688
Also......
FAT
FAT
FAT

>> No.5736708

>>5736682
While there is no accounting for taste, sometimes it is way too fucking baffling.

>> No.5736736

I fucking love R07's art, so fuck you

>> No.5736742

>>5736708
Goose-fraba.

>> No.5736747
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5736747

Rifyu is blatantly stating in this comic on how George's look is suppose to incite a feeling of spite towards him here. Since Rifyu is actually Ryukishi, this means that George was purposefully meant to be a fat fuck that nobody wants to hear or see.

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>>5736688

>> No.5736762

It's the Dunning–Kruger effect.
He's too dumb to realize his art is a mistake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

>> No.5736771

>>5736747
>Since Rifyu is actually Ryukishi

Impossible

Rifyu can actually draw. A person with Rifyu's skills wouldnt even dare to create the Shamalan M Night creatures Ryukishi has put out.

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>>5736758
nice

>> No.5736782
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5736782

Same reason Fukumoto still does his own work. Artistic style.

>> No.5736787

>>5736648
It has charm because even though he's a shitty artist he still put effort into it. Alchemist's art for the PS2 version is just generic shit. Sure, the art may be decent since it doesn't have major anatomy problems like R07's art, but I'd rather play it the way it was meant to be played without prettying it.

>> No.5736802
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5736802

Look at those fatties
LOOK AT THEM

>> No.5736804

>>5736787
It's not 'prettifying' when you can just draw properly.
You are just assuming 'they put no effort' for the designer at Alchemist too.
Just...enjoy your shit, really.
>>5736782
He can both draw and write better.

>> No.5736805

>>5736782
yeah but he is different..., even though he has his problems with drawing women.

>> No.5736813

>>5736771
I'm sorry to break it to you, but...

Rifyu → if Ryu → If Ryu(kishi)

!!!

>> No.5736814

>>5736802
I want a tomitake flash t-shirt

>> No.5736826

Alchemist's art is fine. "Generic" is not a valid criticism, it's throwaway troll term.

>> No.5736837
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5736837

If he didn't draw them himself, all the characters would be bishonen-gay looking or maybe they wouldn't look like what he pictured them to be. Just take a look at what Studio DEEN did. Look what they did to George.

Actually, when I think about it. That was a really stupid argument, as we've already confirmed one bishonen-fag in Episode 7.

>> No.5736847

>>5736826
I like the ps2 art because takano is sexy in it.

>> No.5736850

>>5736802
Is shannon pregnant?

>> No.5736864

>>5736837
Outside of George not being LARDY, everything is so much better, it is not even funny.
That and the VAs are the only good thing about the adaptation.

>> No.5736865

If you haven't fapped to 07's art you aren't a TRU UMINEKO FAN

>> No.5736869

>>5736837
>as we've already confirmed one bishonen-fag in Episode 7.
He looks like a pig.

>> No.5736871

>>5736802

Haha, George is so stylin' with his dog tags and TOMITAKE FLASH t-shirt!

>> No.5736872
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5736872

>>5736814
Nack has DID, Nack's other personalities are Bern fag and Trollkastel

>> No.5736879

>>5736872
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

>> No.5736896
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5736896

What you expected

>> No.5736901
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5736901

>>5736896
What you got

>> No.5736908

>>5736804
Higurashi just isn't Higurashi without R07's horrendous art. I'll enjoy my shit gladly, sir.

>> No.5736920
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5736920

>>5736872
Higurashi isn't Higurashi without deens art.

>> No.5736927

Who here would play through a Rifyu mod of Umineko, with every sprite replaced with something Rifyu drew?

>> No.5736934

Fans don't criticize him, so he totally ignore this matter.

>> No.5736936

>>5736927
I think the question is who wouldn't.

>> No.5736951

>>5736901
Fat goes in all fields

>> No.5736952

>>5736927
I would pay money for that

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5736960

>>5736920
i think most of us saw the anime before the vn, so this is mostly true.

>> No.5736963

>>5736927

This is brilliant

>> No.5736974

>>5736865
Fappable characters:
Erika
Siesta 410
Cornelia
Skirt Beato
Eva

>> No.5737007

>>5736974
How could you forget Gaap??
GAAP!

>> No.5737028

>>5737007

Gaap is the opposite of fappable.

>> No.5737031

>>5737007
Gaap is in the list of "nightmare fuel" characters.

>> No.5737055

>>5736974

Fappable characters:

Bern
Bern
Bern
Bern
Bern
Bern
Erika

>> No.5737059

>>5736960
>>5736920
Yeah it is true. DEEN's art for Higurashi was pretty nice. Though I think for playing through the VN's Ryukishi's is most suitable, for me at least.

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5737061

>>5736974
how could you forget about natshui?

>> No.5737064

Fappable characters:

Erika

>> No.5737068

i like the art. maybe I'm weird.

>> No.5737074

>>5737059
As someone who has never seen the anime, I cannot stand DEEN's Higurashi artwork. It just looks so wrong to me.

>> No.5737081

>>5737061

Too old.

>> No.5737085

DEEN's faces can be swapped from character to character with little trouble

Swapping R07's faces around is nightmare fuel synthesis

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5737086

Eva is a good mother, too bad her son is so fat.

>> No.5737088

>>5736974
What about Eva-Beatrice?

>> No.5737090

>>5736470
But Umineko sales are pretty bad, I doubt it'll get a port. Higurashi was much more successful in both the VN and anime adaptations.

>> No.5737095
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5737095

>>5736974

You forgot Maria

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>>5737081
but shes sexy headache moe....

>> No.5737103

>>5737090

Tora no Ana's top selling VN's are Umineko Chiru 6 and Umineko 4...go figure.

>> No.5737110

>>5737095

OH GOD WANT

SO MUCH WANT

>> No.5737113

>>5737096
I think natshui has the best look according too R07s artwork.

>> No.5737120

>>5737095
She is in the list of "ugly as fuck" on top of Kumasawa's son.

>> No.5737131

He's probably dumping all the money into the music.

>> No.5737133

>>5737120
And on the top of it is Rosa

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>>5737120
>Maria
>Ugly as fuck

>> No.5737138

>>5737103
No matter how crappy of a writer Ryu is, he knows how to make it entertaining.

>> No.5737149

>>5737133
>>"ugly as fuck"
>>Rosa

You're kidding right....?

>> No.5737154

>>5737131
And it worked.

>> No.5737163

>>5737131
I'm deaf and i can still enjoy Umineko

>> No.5737167

>>5737133
you best be joking, ill agree maria looks the worse in the vn, but i like rosa.

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>>5737172

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>>5737182

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>> No.5737207

*.gif shit

>> No.5737208

Just finished ep6, on the tea party right now, I don't know how you guys played it in one day, it took me since the translation came out too get this far. Its awesome that the last Higurashi chapter came out, now i can get right into that.

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Ange getting a picture with Eva and calling her mommy? That makes me feel so JEALOUS

>> No.5737221

>>5737208
>I don't know how you guys played it in one day
Read more books/VN/eroge so you can learn to read faster.

>> No.5737225

The jump from Higurashi art to Umineko art is actually pretty big when you look closely. I'm curious to see how he evolves for his next project.

>> No.5737238

>>5737221
I read it pretty fast, but i like too play vns at night only for some reason, and i don't really read things in one go..

>> No.5737246

>>5737225
He'll improve the faces and make the bodies taller.

The hands will get worse. They'll be balls.

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>>5737225
Next Project art

>> No.5737281

If only all the sprites were as good as the paintings.

>> No.5737292

>>5737281
Now this is a good idea

>> No.5737301

>>5737281
Or the cover artwork for EP4.

>> No.5737303

>>5737225
Higurashi's art had better shading and detail, especially the hair and eyes. Where Umineko has less shading and detail, but way better everything else. He can actually draw fingers now.

>> No.5737304

How long was the time span from Higurashi too Umineko? Also how long dose it take him too write a ep?

>> No.5737307

>>5737196

I know about this .gif...but for some reason I still find it funny that Bern manages to come in and fuck this up as well.

>> No.5737312
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>>5737281
Also the anime art!

>> No.5737314

>>5737307
I didn't notice that.

That's epic.

>> No.5737316

>>5737281
Wait , who dose the paintings anyway?

>> No.5737324

>>5737316
Ryukishi07 does them

>> No.5737331

>>5737316
Imagine if it was Ryukishi doing it.

>> No.5737335

>>5737324
Does he really?

>> No.5737340

I like his faces and Ive gotten used to his sprites all except ange and jessica.

>> No.5737342

>>5737196
Bern, why do you have to fuck up everything ;_;

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>>5737331
>>5737335
If he done them, they would be kinda like this

>> No.5737370

When I first saw Natsuhi's sprite, I thought she's huge and probably blocks the hallway with that stance of hers.

>> No.5737382
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5737382

R07 drawings are good enough to produce his own artbook

>> No.5737390

>>5737335

I highly doubt it.

BTW, anyone know how to get to Rokkenjima from Shinjuku?

By that I mean Kyu-Furukawa gardens, the place where all the exterior background images of the mansion are from.

>> No.5737391

>>5737370
well, i thought the same thing, but with everyone..

>> No.5737401

>>5737382

FUCK I NEED TO BUY THIS.

Where'd you get it, online or some shop?

>> No.5737404

>>5737382
everything always looks more detailed in pencil..

>> No.5737421
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>>5737401
who knows, I just saved it...someone posted that picture on /a/, along with this

>> No.5737425

>>5737382
Umineko is by far the best art in all VN's.
Most of them only expresses these emotions
Angry, sad, happy and indiferent....
While Umineko has a infinity of them

>> No.5737427

>>5737382
link or something

>> No.5737428

>>5737390
Ride to Kami-Nakasato on Keihin-Tohoku line, it's about 10 minutes on foot from there. There's some metro station nearby as well, but I got there this way. It's rather easy to find from there. If you don't have a map, there's one near the station, as usual.

>> No.5737447

>>5737425
Umineko emotions art cannot be described....
Only felt

>> No.5737457

>>5737428

I find it easier to go on the Yamanote loop line, but I'm not sure where the closest station drops me off from...from what I've seen, it's still a straight shot out of the station to the garden, but I'm not entirely sure.

>> No.5737465

>>5737425
My favorite is the raging sadness that Battler does. It's like, "I'M GONA CHEW OFF YOUR HEAD AS I SEASON IT WITH MY TEARS!"

>> No.5737476

>>5737447
That's it, we've been going about everything all wrong. Don't THINK about the solution to murders. FEEL.

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>>5737476
'' And then the doors to the golden land finally opened.''

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>>5737500

>> No.5737534
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>>5737476
I FEEL that small bombs did it, and that Beatrice is a boy and Meta-Battler is a raging homo.

>> No.5737535

>>5737457
It's less than 10 minutes from Keihin Tohoku and about 20 from Yamanote, as I remember it. Either way works.

>> No.5737560

>>5737457
Oh and while it's a straight line from both, it's much easier to find from Kami-Nakasato, I think. I'd take a detour on the railway and go from there. The garden is right on the map there, so you'll get there for sure.

>> No.5737573

>>5737534
I FEEL that Kanon is a reverse trap. And that Jessica is a lesbian.

>> No.5737578
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5737578

I can FEEL it i can!!!

>> No.5737590

I FEEL that K1 will come too the rescue in ep7

>> No.5737606

How about you guys collaborate and draw good sprites? With ONScripter it's a joke to replace existing ones.

>> No.5737613

So...anyone got any news on this artbook and whether or not it really exists? I really want to pick it up if I can find it, but I'm not sure where to look...although the large shops with the new Umineko OP blasting and the posters everywhere that say "ON SALE 8/15! could be a good start...I haven't seen this book.

>> No.5737625

What do you all think of Ryuukishi's costume design?

>> No.5737630

>>5737606
It would fail and you know it
just leave it at the way it is
so you can FEEL it

>> No.5737681

>>5737606
Too much work for one person, and several people wouldn't be able to keep the art consistant.

>> No.5737694

>>5737613
http://www.otaku.com/cgi-bin/itemview.asp?itemid=78781z

>> No.5737698

>>5737681
Then all we have to do is find a talented maniacal enthusiastic no-lifer drawfag.

>> No.5737853

it's <good>

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5737886

>>5736872
That's not true.

>> No.5737913

why does nobody never scan these things? hell.

>> No.5737957

>>5737421
These portraits are also done by R07?

>> No.5737978

>>5737886

I agree. First, Nack's an Argentinian. I'm an American. And even he thinks I'm crazy.

>> No.5738401

>>5737978
Aren't you crazy though?

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5738466

>>5737613
It's probably from a guidebook, like this picture from the EP6 guidebook

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