/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e2ttnrjtim3n4i

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer and bios. Now updated with the latest PCsx2 beta client, plugins are automatically included. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

AT3 Artbook - http://www.mediafire.com/?jrm2mg22mkx

Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_5

Latest Toukousphere Translation:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_95

Much love to the Anonymous translating these. ♥

Download the 4chan sounds Greasemonkey script to hear the music embedded in the OP image file:
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/64678

This time it's Rustling Throb ~Cloche~, which comes from the AT2 OST. Enjoy having this loop in your head all day.

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And of course in before the usual stuff; Sion getting butthurt every time this thread is bumped, Coconaaaaa, Halloween.jpg, Luca is a whore and a slut, 500x500.jpg etc.

Now back to Shadow of the Colossus..

>>5675068
What about europe?

>>5675084

I imagine it's due at the same time in Europe. They didn't exactly release many copies of previous Ar tonelico games in Europe though. PS3 is region free so it shouldn't really matter.

>>5675068
>Q1 2011
Isn't that a bit soon? I wasn't expecting it until Q2.

>>5675102
Well importing form the UK is still faster and cheaper then US thats why i'm interested. Oh well they released Trinity Universe and similar game at the same time so this probably too is going to a same date release.

Question how many girls can you "flag" in AT3? Is it only the two main girls or can you get others?

Will it have 3408953-09 fatal glitches?

>>5675190
Saki
Finnel
Tilia
Cocona

>>5675067

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>>5675214
>Tilia
Yep 1st day buy.

I will be buying a PS3 just for this game

Hope there isn't any friendzoning like in AT2

>>5675212
Even if it has PS3 can patch shit unlike PS2.

What the fuck is Qoga?

>>5675180

Well yeah, I'm from the UK so I'd like to see it released over here too but honestly I'm not getting my hopes up just yet until I see places taking preorders for it.

>Q1 2011
Fuck yes.

>>5675066

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>>5675394
>>5675394

>>5675394
>>5675502

>Ar tonelico III: The Song of the Girl that Pulls the Trigger of the End of the World

This should had been the title. What's is it with NISA and fucking up each At title?

Or why no not follow their naming theme 'The melody of the end of the world' and why did they forget to put the number, they made it sound like it's some side story or a novel.

The Girl who Continues to Sing at the End of the World > Melody of Elemia

The Girls' Metafalica that Resounds throughout the World > Melody of Metafalica

>>5675565
The Song of the Girl that Pulls the Trigger of the End of the World > Melody of Qoga

Qoga

>>5675519

It's pretty silly too because the title has real relevance with what happens at the end of the game. Changing it to Qoga on the other hand makes it sound pretty retarded.

Anyone know where exactly it was said about Tilia having the most advanced body out of the three Origin, while Frelia is the most mentality advanced, and Shurelia being an incomplete Origin?

>>5675790

I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in one of the technical rooms.

Goddamn, I don't give a shit what the title is. At least we're actually getting a translation now and hopefully all the negative backlash from AT2 will mean they'll pull through a little harder with AT3.

The long titles sound really silly in English.

>>5676364
>silly

Except they don't.

>>5675067
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>>5676364
The only problem I have with the name is that the title implies no relevance with the other 2 games, it's just called "Ar Tonelico: Qoga" not "Ar Tonelico 3: Qoga", like I said earlier it sounds like it's some side story, but it's not that big of a deal, just sayin'

I am a new member to this forum and wanted just to say a hi from me.
The truth is that i watch threads for many time but never posted.

Keep up good work
Thank you

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Anyone know if it'll have an English dub option?

>>5676515
Probably.

And thanks to Blurays being so huge, they shouldn't have an excuse to cut any of the Japanese track either.

>>5676515

Who fucking cares about that on /jp/

Let's add an irrelevant and incomprehensible subtitle to out game instead of indicating it's a sequel: Marketing Genius.

Seriously, what the fuck. I guess this makes it easy to google, and impossible to ask for in a store.

>>5676533
We meek lurkers who can't read moonrunes.

It will probably have 3 in the title, Ar tonelico III - Melody of Qoga doesn't exactly sound good though. I actually liked the reference of the original subtitle. I just hope this isn't a sign of things to come like silly name changes and terrible translation.

God-tier:

AT 1

Shit-tier

AT2

???? tier

AT3

>>5678061
tiers

at2 shit tier ? seriously ?

>>5675069
Thank you Anon

You are a Godsend

>>5675214

Fuck.

No Soma? Shit

>>5678375
I like to imagine it's part of Finnel's package.

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/07/16/ar-tonelico-qoga-knell-of-ar-ciel-set-for-next-spring/

WHY IS THIS TELLING ME Q2?

>>5679038

Check Google, they all list the news from the press conference as Q1 to me.

You could always ask NISA to put the 3 and "Melody of" in the title, I guess. They DO read e-mails, or at least they read mine. I commented to them about Sakura Wars and Disgaea Infinite and they responded with an actual human answer.

>>5679306

They really need to clarify what's going on. Even with this press conference done there's confusion over the release date (Q1 or Q2) and the name (Ar tonelico Qoga, Ar tonelico III - Qoga, Ar tonelico III - Melody of Qoga..). I'm also curious if they are planning a CE of it.

Question to the Japanese speakers: does Qoga refer to anything at all, or is NISA trolling themselves?

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>>5680108

So what do you think will be the better name for it? Currently it's Ar Tonelico Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel.

CE? You mean like what they're doing with Atelier Rorona?

>>5675509

see >>5680137

Assuming that's not a troll. So it'd be Melody of Demise basically. Why they don't just put that in the first place instead of Qoga is anyones guess..

>>5680146 here

And the reason I asked abot the name is that I'm thinking of e-mailing NISA and I want to get some good questions on it. Currently I'm thinking of asking:

A) If the name is pending/whether they might change it.

B) Whether it's just premium edition Rorona or will there be also a standard edition with a lower price.

C) Why Classic Dungeon is PSN-only (they probably won't be able to answer this if Sony America has something to do with).

D) Whether they plan to compile the first two Ar Tonelicos on retail or possibly PSN.

>>5680146

Really? Still sounds pretty silly. I prefer the original subtitle but whatever. And yes, extra stuff like an additional artbook is always nice to have, in my opinion. In AT's case anything is awesome - artbooks, soundtrack, whatever.

>>5680148
Toukousphere Anonymous here, at least the image is not a troll, if that's what you meant. Also refer to e.g. the lyrics of ~ ee wassa sos yehar (cEzLYE qoga! cEzLYE shefra!). I dunno. I guess NISA is trying to show they actually know about this Hymm Nos thing. I kinda would have preferred a title with the number and the usual subtitle, but whatever.

Also, from the Hama's Dojo in tonight's Toukousphere. DO FUCKING WANT. Man, this makes me want to get into sculpting. Oh well, better get to work on 96.

>>5680257
Well, I'm of the opinion that the original subtitles are too wordy for English and the renaming was acceptable, but Qoga is... weird.

>>5680497

That's pretty awesome, hopefully they post up the finished version. Regarding the title I agree it shows that they have at least looked into hymmnos however only a small number of people who buy it will know what it truly means whilst the rest of the customers will be wondering what the fuck it means.

>>5680188

If you haven't already sent the e-mail then I'd like to request you ask about an EU release date for AT3 too. Also if they're interested in re-releasing AT1/AT2 then perhaps they'd be interested in working with that group that is fansubbing AT2.

>>5680993
>then perhaps they'd be interested in working with that group that is fansubbing AT2.

Would that be okay to ask? I don't think every publisher is okay with fansubs.

>>5681239

They know they fucked up with AT2. They can at least redeem themselves, work with their fans and provide a much better translation for everyone. This means that the fansubbers haven't wasted their time and NIS will have it easier in regards to fixing up the atrocity that is the AT2 translation. It can't hurt to ask, to be honest.

>>5681270
True, but I don't think NISA would be crazy about spending the cash moneys to re-release the games. The AT series can't exactly be a cash cow for them to start with.

>>5681301

Then they could release it on PSN as I suggested in an earlier post. Before you say, "People got mad at the Agarest thing," the only reason they did was because it was available for limited edition retail on 360 while PS3 version wasn't, which got many people upset at the unfairness (Sony is to blame for that one).

>>5681301

It'd still gain some interest and revenue if they threw it up on the PSN store for anyone to purchase. If they fixed up the translation I'm sure a good number of AT fans would happily download it.

I'm going to bed, be sure to keep the thread alive.

Okay, so I'm going to e-mail NISA. I'll summarize the questions I'll ask:

A) Will Ar Tonelico Quog: Knell of Ar Ciel be the final name? There are fans that believe that it sounds like a side-story and that most westerns might not understand the 'Quog' part. There's some agreement of the title Ar Tonelico 3: Melody of Demise. It fits with the titles of the previous two games as well. Also, will there be a European release?

B) Would it be possible for you to release the first two Ar Tonelicos on PSN? I think it would help those (including me) who did not play them and can not find them on PS2, be able to play those two games and get them ready for AT3.

[I don't know how to word the fanstranslation question, I need help on this guys.]

C) Will there be a standard edition of Atelier Rorona, sold at a lower price?

D) Are you able to say why the localization of Classic Dungeon is PSN-only? I think many people would prefer a UMD copy.

>>5682071

"If you are interested in re-releasing AT1 & AT2 digitally on the PSN store would you fix the translation errors present or would you release them as they are? There's currently a fan translation project ongoing for AT2 that you could possibly intergrate for a more accurate translation."

Or something along those lines, I guess.

>>5682071
>Ar tonelico 3: Melody of Qoga

Should be this, at the least since both previous games were Elemia and Metafalica.

>>5682352

Not sure if it's a stupid question or not but would I link them to the fan translation project (I don't know the url though) or just leave the question as is?

>>5680146
Woah, wait, Atelier Rorona is getting a CE? I just looked it up on Amazon, they don't have it listed for pre-order. Is this some type of in-store only deal, or has it just not gone up for pre-order yet?

Pic related, it's my pcsx2.

One moment Shurelia is blushing about installs, the next the game is black-screened and unresponsive.

Using Ar Tonelico I - Melody of Elemia UNDUB by Bible Black.ISO.

Does this need patching? I remember AT2 had a crash-point that needed to be patched.

>>5682529

Makes sense.

at2.metalbat.com
at2.limitedwish.railsplayground.net/

>>5682613

Google the premium box, it's getting a hard cover artbook with it.

>>5684263

I don't recall AT1 having any major bugs such as this. It sounds rather inconvenient but have you tried redownloading it?

NIS usa must be litarly /jp/ level retarded if they think im waiting until April 21011 to play arrrr tonelco 3

i dont know about others but i will import the japnese version now. Ateliar rorona will push at3 back many months.

>>5684972
At least you tried, I'll give you that.

>>5681960
What are those 2 things on Frelia's head?

>>5684972

Rorona is being released in September, they only just officially announced their interested in AT3.

>>5684972

Rorona is being released in September, they only just officially announced they're interested in AT3.

>>5686414

They contain raw essence of moe.

Okay, I'm gonna e-mail NISA later today. Wonder how they'd respond to the fantranslation thing.

Does Rorona have a time limit?

luca is a whore and a slut

>>5687797
Threaten them with bombing if they do shitty name changes.

That'll get their attention.

>>5684928
>It sounds rather inconvenient but have you tried redownloading it?
Unfortunately, thanks to my rubbish internet connection, this will take a day and some.
Oh well, wish me luck!

>>5688104

Eh, go play AT1 or something while you wait. I'll also assume your graphics plugin etc. is setup correctly.

>>5684972
>think im waiting until April 21011
That's only the same amount of time it took for the first two to be localized (12-15mo from Japanese release). Though, I suppose most people lack the patience I have.

>>5688435
>Eh, go play AT1 or something while you wait.
B-But that is AT1!
I can't rest because Shurelia talks to me about installs and then the game crashes.
And Shurelia's is the only part of the game I have left.

>>5688558

Oh, my mistake. That's why I downloaded Shadow of the Colossus etc. just to have something to play if something else fucks up. How does it feel not being able to take responsibility?

>>5688531

Heh, we were made to wait over a year for AT2 which is pretty sad considering the translation quality.

I would've gone with Melody of Ar Ciel.

>>5691392

Now I'm getting conflicting ideas, one guy says Melody of Quog, another says Melody of Ar Ciel...

>>5691431

I believe it's Ar tonelico Quog: Knell of Ar Ciel, as mentioned earlier in the thread. Until we get a reply from NIS it's anyones guess what the 'official' title is.

>>5691722

No I mean what would be a better title. Ar Tonelico 3: Melody of Quog or Ar Tonelico 3: Melody of Ar Ciel. Rather than Ar Tonelico Quog: Knell of Ar Ciel (hey that rhymes).

Qoga, dammit.

It's not Quog. It's Qoga. Q-o-g-a.

Will it contain EXEC_EP=NOVA/.? If so, I'll take twenty.

>>5692850
Are you expecting a dubbed version of EXEC_EP=NOVA?

Oh fuck

>>5692858
Chocobos of Pulse was okay, but if I get a dubbed version of EXEC_EP=NOVA/., I think I will have to kill myself unless it is sung in dericias Engrish.

>>5682352
0% chance of that happening; FF7's re-release didn't have so much as a spell check, why the hell would they do it for this game?

I guess I'll check Pixiv for any new AT ima-OH GOD HNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.

After staying up tonight I can see why the previous thread died. Someone bump this in a bit to keep it alive.

>>5692052

I kind of liked Ar tonelico III: Melody of Demise. Melody of Ar Ciel works too. Quog/Qoga/whatever the fuck it is just looks odd, in my opinion.

>>5693865
Maybe they've already gave up and know only hardcore fans will buy this.
After all the game IS bad gameplay wise, especially compared to AT2, I'm actually wondering if AT2 was a joint project unlike AT1 and AT3.

>>5697062

Are you implying that gameplay actually means something? Millions of people still bought shit like Final Fantasy XIII at full retail price. But yeah, I see your point. AT3 isn't all that bad though, at least they've implemented a decent combat system on a 3D engine.

>>5699999
I never understood how those shoes stay on.

>>5700497
They're glued. Or maybe with Harmonics.

>>5700497
Could just be the same thing they use on certain types of dresses in real life, only here on the shoe and being used as a transparent and small thing to keep it on.

>>5700497

It's glorious science, image related.

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>>5700497
Suction cups.

/I would

>>5675067
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Haha, that's made my day. Cloche does her speech followed up with Metafalica and the first response she gets from the crowd is "Go die!"

zzzzz

>>5700497
They're not shoes, they're thigh boots.

>>5702146
That's because they're ingrates. I'm sure they'll laugh as they sink into the Sea of Death with smiles on their faces.

Hello. And Bye.

Ugh. I redownloaded AT1, loaded my save, rested, and the game froze again.
I don't know how pcsx2 save files work. If I download a different undub (or even not even that) of AT1 will my save still work?

>>5703380
cutest AT girl

>>5703451
are you talking about normal saves or savestates?

>>5703471
Normal saves.
I don't use savestates.

>>5703466
That's not Raki

>>5703451

It should work fine. You sure swapping around some plugin settings wont fix it? Could also try updating your graphics driver and such.

>>5703476
I have an old iso I downloaded and then I downloaded this one by bible black that supposedly had the cutscenes in japanese. Strangely the folder structure was completely different (my old iso has folders named VPACK and VPACK that the new one didn't have) and I did a diff of the movie folder and only two files were different, so I didn't bother with it and used my old iso.

So try downloading a normal untampered iso.

>NIS America has announced at their San Francisco press conference that they’ll be bringing Ar tonelico III

FUCK YEAH
>NIS America

But should I celebrate yet?

how do I equip those red crystals to a weapon?

>>5704458
AT1?
You don't, only the purple ones.
The red crystals are for offensive magic, the blue ones are for buffs, the green ones are for magic you use out of battle (the various shots), and the purple ones are for equipment.
It's under "enhancement" iirc.

>>5704488
then how do you equip the red ones to whatever thing they have to be equipped to?

>>5704562
"Install" at a savepoint.

>>5704562
Red crystals should be able to be equipped in the Reyvatail's song magic menu to augment their magic.

>>5704562
Install them in your Reyvateil on the camp/inn menu.

Was Lyner insanely overpowered for anyone else by the end of AT1? I cannot recall what level my party was, but Lyner was hitting for ~2300 plus elemental damage, had 100% crit, and took almost no damage. I think it may have had something to do with the accessory that you get from whichever reyvatail whose cosmosphere you clear.

>>5704606
The Ar Tonelico games are so incredibly easy that I'd be shocked to learn otherwise.
Damage was irrelevant because regeneration chips, and elemental damage crystals made even Krusche do fucktons of damage.

>>5704577
>>5704579
I don't see any option. Is this option not enabled from the beginning?

>>5704708
No, you have to get permission from whoever you want to install in. Play through the game and it'll eventually come up.

Original OP here. I'm back. Went for some crazy driving in nepal (where the fuck are the street lights, goddamn), met the Dalai Lama in india, and suffered indigestion and carsickness (I assume indian drivers don't know that you're supposed to break when you're making an almost u-turn on a mountain where the slightest mistake will send you plummeting 500 feet) the entire way.

If the current OP wants to continue, it's fine, but if you want I can continue on again with making the threads.

As for ZUN!bar, I'll post a link to the album with some photos in it when I gather up and upload all the shitty photos I took.

Glad to see everything's going well, at least.

>>5705508
Also,
>NIS America has announced at their San Francisco press conference that they’ll be bringing Ar tonelico III, released by Namco Bandai and Gust Corp in Japan late this January, will launch under their publishing in North America in Q1 2011. It’ll be titled Ar Tonelico Qoga.

Oh, fuck. Awesome. I need to buy a PS3.

However,
>Qoga

The shit?

>>5705508
Anon is still in one piece!

Glad to have you back. Any good food? Lots of right hand eating?

>>5705508

Go ahead. It gave me a chance to update the AT pack with the newest PCsx2 and I learnt how to actually use that plugin. Hope you had fun.

>>5703383

Well yeah but I thought it was pretty random. During the entire song it went from "Fuck you" to "This isn't so bad" to "Fuck yeah, Cloche!" then the moment the song ends.. "GO DIE!"

>>5703383
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/607281/ar_tonelico-ar_tonelico_iii-belt-blue_eyes-blue_ha
There's an obvious gap between her heel and the shoe.

>>5708648

To be fair that Cocona isn't official, her official portrait does have a gap though.

should I always pick the name the girl suggests or what?

>>5710999
You want to say no to that face?

>>5711011
Kind of, it makes me want to tease her.

>>5711011
I don't know, I don't want to screw it for it to come back later to haunt me.

>>5711054
It doesn't affect gameplay, these games are just there to be cute. Honestly I like Aurica's suggestions, though she might be a psycho.

>>5710999
Why would you want to call the Arcadia recovery cannon, Boom energy drink?

>>5711054
Just go with what you prefer. It doesn't affect anything.

Arcadia Recovery Cannon > Boom Energy Drink > Heal Cracker

>>5711154

Silly ZUN and your low resolution.

>>5711164
Playing PS2 games in anything but 640x480 is brutal eye murder.
I hope you feel bad for what you've done. That looks terrible.

Dem horns.

>>5711164
Dem horns.

Actually I never did her cosmonaut spheres now that I think about it.

>>5711191

Looks fine to me at that resolution. Cranking it up to something like 1920x1080 however makes it look fucking terrible I'll admit.

>>5711191
say what?

>>5711709
How do you upscale it without massive quality loss?

>>5711805
It's just polygons, why would upscaling it lead to quality loss

>>5711805
tweaking the d3d internal resolution, the stress lays on your graphic card so depeding how good it is you'll be able get decent fps with a high resolution or not (a 9600gt should manage 1024x1024 fine)

>>5711840
Because you're working with a native resolution of 640x448 which is then resized to fit your window size. So unless you crank up the internal resolution it will look bad.

Anyway, this doesn't work with AT becuase it's mainly 2D and if you change the resolution glitches appear. The most you can do is set manually the internal resolution to 640x448 instead of clicking the native checkbox. That way you can enable the bilinear filtering, which will make the textures look better.

It looks shit upscaled because of the textures. They are made for dem low res tv tubescreens. derpadurp

Wow, huge difference.

>>5712090

Huh, I can actually see their facial expression. Or what expression these models give, anyway.

It's a shame you can't actually turn P3 into a decent game by playing with the graphics settings.

>finished ar tonelico
>start playing ar tonelico 2
>everything different
well that's a change
>new combat system
ohgodi'mterribleatthis.jpg
>compulsory innuendo on dives
businessasusual.png
>i get to the bath part
WHAT.

I'm completely suprised by Ar Tonelico 2 for the moment. In a good way.

>>5712175
Sup Jones

>It's a shame you can't actually turn P4 into a decent game by playing with the graphics settings.
Fixed.

On an actually related note, I'm downloading the ATFLPP. What should I expect out of AT2?

>>5713179
Better than AT1 in a number of ways, but plagued by some glaring translation errors and a pretty nasty bug on the next to last boss (shouldn't be a problem on PCSX2).

What's this? An actual decent colouring of this image? I don't believe it.. is Otome Function out too?

>>5713724
Is a problem on PCSX2.
You have to patch your iso (search the archive for the link, it was asmodeus something).
Luckily, since there is a save point every two minutes, you won't lose much if you encounter Raki unexpectedly without first patching. And she's totally optional, isn't she?

Also, the AT2 combat system is nice in that you don't ever have to level your characters up at all once you master the art of pressing the block button at the right time and get all perfects.
I found out after I beat the game that there were IPDs that made it even easier; you should probably avoid those if you want any semblance of gameplay.

>>5712948
Sup
>>5713179
That too

>>5713179
But P4 was actually good, unlike P3

>>5715948
I didn't give P4 as much a chance as I gave P3 because it was boring kiddie shit, so yeah.

>>5716075
As if any one here is above kiddie shit.

>>5715904
I never patched my iso, I didn't have a problem.

Maybe I'm just awesome.

>>5716479

I believe the bugfix is automatically applied with newer versions of PSsx2.

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Is phase 3 in Ar Tonelico the final phase? I killed Mir and picked Shureli over Misha who was my main choice for phase1/2. The most difficult part was trying to slowly kill enemies for level 3 harmonic level. Is that really the end of the game? Whats the point of all those uber items if it is.

>>5718119

To make the game even easier. But yes, that is the end of AT1. Now you have the choice of replaying Phase 2 for the different route or moving on to AT2.

>>5715948
It was? Did we play the same game?

>>5720817
Why is there no bulge?

>>5721050

They're both secretly traps.

DAMN YOU AR TONELICO 2. I can't help listening to this all day :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYYpPPjYhI4

>>5723367

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVSbBeULas

>>5723367
That's a pretty awesome song. It was nice to hear it as the first battle theme you hear for the game.

... dammit, now it's going to be hard to avoid firing up my ARX reader and just listening to that on loop for the rest of the night. I should go play some Atelier Iris. Because I'm too lazy to start replaying the whole AT series, because that's going to take forever, and AI is short, right? ... oh god, if Aurica learned Turn 2 Candy, the world would end.

Oh yeah, I'll rewrite my Toukousphere conversion script to deal with the Twitter stuff this week and post it this weekend since there's no Technical Data Room this week, sorry.

>>5724694

You cannot deny the inevitable, good sir. I foresee you starting to replay AT again within 24 hours.

luca is a whore and a slut

>>5728251

>>5728251
Yes, and?

Oh, Ar Tonelico thread. I just finished AT2 and wanted to talk about it.

Don't you think the final boss fight made absolutely no sense? "I don't want to deal with people anymore, so I'll isolate everyone." What the fuck, woman? If you really want to be alone just isolate yourself and be done with it! I really didn't understand her motivations at all.

The game was mediocre, compared to AT1. I didn't like that the two main love interests are: a royal tsundere and a bitch from hell. The poor plot was made worse after translation. Really, it's hard to find good points about the game. I guess Jacqli is one.

>>5729600
Everything about Frelia isn't good?

>>5729600

Yeah, we already know that Infel and Nenesha's original idea was good but their way of doing it was horrible. And eh, it had delicious Jakuri, some excellent music and I actually liked the battle system when shit like girl power and Replekia wasn't abused.

>>5730462
I thought AT2 was superior to the original in almost every way, not counting the horrors of the translation. My only complaint was that the cosmospheres felt a lot shorter than in the original. Some layers felt like they were over before they began. I think Shurelia still has the best overall cosmosphere, even though I like Jaqli better a character.

I did think the main plot of AT2 was more compelling, and the characters were more engaging. The lack of a clear villain does hurt it, but not substantially.

As far as music, AT2 stands head and shoulders over both 1 and 3. Exec_with Method_Metafalica is absolutely the best song in the series, Exec_Viena and Method_Replekia are strong runners up, and the three parts of Sublimation make for a great finale.

Speaking of Replekia, sure it is highly abusable, but the game, like just about everything from Gust, is a breeze anyway. Bosses are speed bumps, so really all it does is save you a few rounds of mashing the block buttons. If anything, the grathnode crystals of AT1 were even more broken, since you could make every song in your repetoire turn you nigh invincible while simultaneously increasing your damage output exponentially and allowing you to win with your eyes closed. Indeed, many times I would end up killing bosses with regular attacks while playing the waiting game with Replekia just to see what absurd level I could charge it up to.

>>5729600
I wouldn't say isolate. It's more along the lines of Infel thinking that people'd be better off living as data entries in Infel Pira then hanging around a dying world (or continent) that drops shit down into the sea of death every hundred years or so

> like just about everything from Gust
> is a breeze
badump-tish

> people'd be better off living as data entries in Infel Pira
Pretty much this. >>5729600 would have been closer if you had her saying "Holy shit, everything really sucks, I'll create a world where no-one will have to be sad, and who needs a stupid physical body anyway?"

>>5731085
But I will grant that this doesn't come through as strongly if you don't read some of the supplemental materials. Unfortunately, that sort of in-game abbreviation does happen sometimes in this series.

>>5730654
AT2 would have been perfect if you were able to customize your weapons like in AT1. I dunno but I'm just crazy for that kind of thing.

>>5730753

Eh, it all depends on what way you look at it really and whether or not you include the additional materials and such. From the (badly translated) game it's clear that Infel and Nenesha wanted to create Metafalica but the people refused to accept them and this led to multiple things happening which didn't exactly make Infel happy while also fucking over the second tower. From this experience she truly believed she could create a Metafalica by 'sublimating' the whole world, regardless of their will, she truly believed people would be happier as proven by the lyrics in EXEC_over.METHOD_SUBLIMATION/. ～omness chs ciel sos infel for example. But killing off the entire planet (or so she believes) is not the answer just because your best friend got fucked over. She needed to be put in her place and Croix & co. do just that. Then again I feel the citizens of the second tower deserved to be sublimated just because I felt they were raging faggots.

Oh my, is that some masochistic Vista? Obligatory translation request.

>Ar tonelico III: The Song of the Girl that Pulls the Trigger of the End of the World
>finally officially announced
Nice.

>titled Ar Tonelico Qoga.
What. God damn it. Though, ooking back, they did fucked up the last two titles.

>Ar tonelico III: The Song of the Girl that Pulls the Trigger of the End of the World
>finally officially announced
Nice.

>titled Ar Tonelico Qoga.
What. God damn it. Though, looking back, they did fucked up the last two titles.

i just bought AT2, whats wrong with it?

>>5732692

Half of the voices were cut and there's a major bug where the game completely freezes if you take took long killing Raki. Also a shitty translation but that's applicable to the undub version too, unfortunately.

>>5732692

Half of the voices were cut and there's a major bug where the game completely freezes if you take too long killing Raki. Also a shitty translation but that's applicable to the undub version too, unfortunately.

Fucking typo.

>>5733121
is there a way too patch my ps2 disk to fix all the problems?

>>5733448
A retranslation patch is being worked on, but from what I know it's going the way of Fate/Hollow Ataraxia's translation.

>>5733448

Nope. Either live with it or download the undub version and play it minus the bugs. The retranslation is going at a snails pace, I believe so don't be expecting that to be done for a while.

>>5732626
What's with this super-M frame? Who customized her?

Vista: I'm really sorry I caused you all that trouble.
Aoto: Naw, don't worry 'bout it.

Aoto: Well, that's what I wanna say, but ...

Vista: Yes?

>>5732633
Vista: Um, what exactly are you ...
Aoto: See,

Aoto: I've got all this stress built up from when you were like that.

Vista: I'm really very-
Aoto: Sorry, but ...

>>5732639
Aoto: Until I'm done bein' pissed off at you,

Aoto: You're gonna have to go out with me.

Continued at Summer Comiket not

>>5735366

>Continued at Summer Comiket not

I've been trolled. Fuck you, Pixiv.

>>5730654
Replekia made the game infinitely 'harder' for me, since I enjoyed the Replekia song and would just dodge for ages listening to it.

uh oh

>>5716075
>kiddie shit
NO DISNEY SHIT HERE
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>>5738583
I've seen this before

>>5730753

Also Inudrill confirmed for releasing a doujin at Comiket, fuck yes. It's a shame it'll never be scanned.

Oh Cocona..

I'm trying to get the PCSX2 emulator to work on my pc. Are my specs good enough? I can't run it at a stable framerate yet. I tested it out with Pac-Man World Rally.

System Model DX4720-03

System Type x64-based PC

Processor Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz, 2500 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)

Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB

Total Physical Memory 3.75 GB

Available Physical Memory 2.30 GB

Total Virtual Memory 7.70 GB

Available Virtual Memory 6.07 GB

Page File Space 4.04 GB

>>5744880

What's your graphics card? And can you overclock that CPU at all? AT isn't very demanding as far as emulation goes (compared to stuff like Shadow of the Colossus) but that CPU is still a little on the slow side. It should run fine but you'll probably get slowdown on the world map but that's about it.

God damit I've completed AT1 but I haven't even cleared one level of Shurelia's cosmosphere. I really want to see the endings and watching them on youtube just won't be the same. I'm so mad right now and I know I'm going to devote hours to getting those talks just for a 2-minute scene, but god damit it's going to be worth it.

Also, what is the significance of Ayatane finding Mir at the end? Is this linked to AT2?

>>5745069
I haven't tried Ar Tonnelico yet. I'm still waiting for it to finish downloading.

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_07E1&SUBSYS_01371025&REV_A2
Display Memory: 1912 MB
Dedicated Memory: 248 MB
Shared Memory: 1663 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: nvd3dum,nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2um, nvwgf2umx.dll

>>5745072
Yes, kind of.

>>5745167
Ar Tonelico should run fine on that with the exception of a few intense combat animations and the world map. One advantage of a mostly 2D game.

>>5745072

You don't have a save file? You could just reload it and do Shurelia's cosmosphere since you can dive into all 3 girls in AT1. As for the ending.. can't you just reload? It's not hard to pick the other option.. and it's barely any different anyway.

>>5745072

Even if you don't have a save file could you really say no to this?

This is perhaps one of the oddest pairings I've ever seen.

Hey guys,

>>5748771
What the butt!?

>>5746196
I do, but its a long way back since I don't save often. Yes, I know thats stupid of me.

>>5749674
You're on /jp/, the board that's pretty much VN general, and you tell us you don't save often?

I stopped playing AT2 near the end and feel the need to finish it since AT3 is comming to the US, however I've seem to have lost my savefile.
My question is this: What route should I do for this mostly re-playthrough. I did most of the Cloche route last time.

>>5750103
Luca route. She's so messed up her route's really interesting. Either way don't choose a girl until the save point right before the last boss so you can enter Jacqli's or Cocona's ending.

>>5750638
Awesome artist.

I think he was the character designer for Wild Arms 4 actually.

>>5750648

This is clearly a lie.

>>5750664
Hey what doujin is that?

Is AT1 supposed to be so easy modo? I haven't grinded at all, the combats are always press X till I win and even the boss fights are a fucking joke.

>>5752153
It's quite easy yes.

>>5752153
All AT games are a joke. In AT 2 you can adjust difficulty by not leveling your Reyvateils at all, which forces you to guard diligently if you want to win. Taking out high level IPDs with starting characters was some of the most fun I had in an RPG in a long time, but eventually I stopped caring and was glad of the easiness because the story captivated me.

>>5751826

12.jpg, obviously.

Oh god, Filament is delicious.

>>5749314

Exactly. The odd thing is that shortly before seeing that image on Pixiv I watched the 2.22 Eva movie and before that I was playing AT2.

>>5752570
Oh man, I love 12.jpg, they're my favorite circle.

Anyone have the new Art Book?

>>5751826

http://www.mediafire.com/?eolqyhdutjw

I posted before in this thread. Now I'm trying to run Ar Tonelico at a decent framerate, but it normally slows down to 20-30 fps in fields, the world map and battles. Anyone have any idea on how to make it run more smoothly? I posted my specs before. Here they are again. It runs slightly better when I switch the Renderer to Direct 3D9(Software) on the GS plugin. This seems like a pretty good game. It's a shame if I won't be able to play it without running like a slideshow.

System Model DX4720-03

System Type x64-based PC

Processor Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz, 2500 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)

Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB

Total Physical Memory 3.75 GB

Available Physical Memory 2.30 GB

Total Virtual Memory 7.70 GB

Available Virtual Memory 6.07 GB

Page File Space 4.04 GB


Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_07E1&SUBSYS_01371025&REV_A2
Display Memory: 1912 MB
Dedicated Memory: 248 MB
Shared Memory: 1663 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: nvd3dum,nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2um, nvwgf2umx.dll

>>5756654
You have to understand, that while PS 2 itself is a shit of a machine compared to the SUGOI RIGS were sporting these days, emulating one on a software level will currently take a supercomputer to run it smoothly, especially with the nip games that are very GFX heavy almost at all times. Try again in 5 years when we have PS5 and the PS2 emulators are beyond beta phase.

>>5756654
>NVIDIA GeForce 7100

Try using a video card that costs more than five dollars.

>>5756654
>GeForce 7100

Get a none shit-tier card from half a decade ago.

>>5756680

His machine is fine, his video is just a piece of shit.

Seriously. a 7100 is what they use when they're given a motherboard that doesn't have an onboard graphics card.

>>5756680
You hardly need a super computer to emulate PS2 games.

>>5756654
>>5756683

For reference, here's a cheap shitty card that'll work.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150459

how do I unlock the third lvl8 topic?

>>5756906

Progress further in the game.

>>5756925
how further? I already repaired the ship

>>5757222
Just go check gamefaqs or something geeze.

>>5757222

That's still Phase 2, isn't it? If so then you still have a large chunk of the game to go, just take it easy and you'll eventually get a new talk topic.

>>5757297
I found nothing about that there

>>5757339
ok

>>5755573
>>5755581

God damn it, ZUN. You just had to get my hopes up, didn't you?

>>5761753
Infel is love.

Nenesha is a huge bitch.

>>5762280
I thought it was the other way around.

Oh wow, Jacqli/Jakuri's Cosmosphere. Ayatane as the local Janitor, cheesy VN narration... Please tell me it stays like that after the 1st level !

>>5762886

It is. Infel gets butthurt over Nenesha and decides to rid the world of the 'disgusting virus plagueing the planet' via sublimation. Nenesha is a good girl.

>>5762292

Up to level 5 it does, after that you begin her true cosmosphere. Tip: Choose Miros for an extra costume.

>>5763415
Nenesha did try to kill Croix and Goro several times in Luca's Cosmosphere, Infel's a little better since she helps out in Cloche's Cosmosphere.

Both of them are equally guilty of Sublimation, but in the end it looks more like Nenesha was egging Infel on.

>>5763955

I've never really interacted with them past level 5 in Cloche/Luca so I'll just take your word for it. I'm just going off what I've experienced so far in that Nenesha has been more of a background character whilst Infel is the one trying to fuck over Luca, hacking Raki/the army and impersonating Frelia. Then again I've only just unlocked Sol Marta and decided to take a break and dive into Frelia.. I really should finish AT2.

Eye am the strongest

>>5764529
(need to get this screenshot with the fixed backgrounds)

Well, shit, I don't have the canned good recipe and can't make the fucking ocarina (I'm at the obervatory, so I can't go down), therefore I can't progress in Misha's cosmosphere.

It's sad that I'm on Misha's path and I married the other girl first.

>>5764529
>>5764591
are you using 0.9.7? and check native resolution in the graphic's plugin

>>5764671
5764591, here, I took that screen a while ago before they released the beta version of pcsx2 which fixed things. Haven't felt like digging back through the game to get that screen shot again with the corrected background.

Delicious Hama.

>>5766008
indeed.

>>5764654
go to the first village and buy the canned goods.

>>5766278
I can't, I'm above blastplate and the air ship is busted.

Well, that's just a fine kettle of fish. Apparently my graphics card sucks fecal matter, because it doesn't have Pixel Shader 2.0. So I can't even emulate the games at all. So, either I gotta get both games on Amazon (not too likely because there are other, newer games I'd prefer to buy right now) or hope that NISA compiles the games on PSN someday.

If I were to play the games on the PS2, is there a way to get through that certain glitch in AT2 without having to grind like a dog with female bits? I think there's supposed to be an action replay codes that fixes that, or something.

>>5766874
There is also a glitch with blue magic that can be exploited, if I recall correctly.

http://artonelico.wikia.com/wiki/Glitches#Raki
http://ro.getalyric.com/asculta/wDeWMejDqgs/ar_tonelico_2_song_recast_time_cancelling_method_to_defe
at_raki_

>>5766874

This might sound like a crazy idea but instead of buying a game or two why don't you upgrade your PC? The fact your graphics card is so outdated means that you really should consider this. A single game is what? £40 brand new? You could pick up a half decent card for that price. Another game would put that up to £80, that's an easy 5770 if you know where to look.

>>5766937

Thanks for those links. I'll paste the AR code here, too, so people can see it right here without having to follow a link:

Enable Code (Must Be On)
U6GW-B6DT-YR6VJ
0VFM-WKH7-HFZTG
B8Q8-GGMZ-EU00M
HG44-5A3U-UBGC4

Fixes bug When fighting Raki
761P-X3CB-0CA99
8WY2-WPN9-R3D86
QVRC-YCP3-ZRD7X
Z68R-G8FB-ZQU3E
D78J-7PJQ-MBWTM
BWMB-YFKD-GVU13
36FG-F01G-9U5YC
BJDJ-UWMK-TNFVG
GJPP-5KJC-ZWGGC
MQPV-1YBX-QZKGX
CGDD-CRHP-R1JZC

I found the goddamn recipe for the ocarina in a chest. It's wedding time!

>>5767074

I guess I should upgrade it. I just never felt the need to because I haven't really used this as a gaming PC.

>>5767106

>I just never felt the need to because I haven't really used this as a gaming PC.

Why would you deny your place amongst the glorious master race? Do you intend to PLAY LONG PLAY STRONG like a certain someone else?

>>5756814
I'm kinda late, but would this video card be enough to play 3D JRPGs too? I wanna try out other PS2 RPGs like Xenosaga.

>>5767106
yeah you should, even a low tier card will have pixel shader 2.0

>>5767523
Probably not. Emulating 3D games it's like another world, and also requires a lot of CPU power usually.

>>5767523
Probably be better off spending another 30 bucks on a 9800 or something.

>>5767523
I play ps2 games on a geforce 8200m g and it runs..alright I guess, pretty bad on games like ff12 but it's still workable. The main factor is the cpu as far as I know though, and my cpu's only 2ghz.

I have a geforce 9800 gt, all the games i own work fine on it.

>>5767523

You may as well grab a 5770 since they're stupidly cheap these days and can run pretty much anything.

My waifu appears, all is well in the world.

So flat she makes walls jealous

Luca = eyesore
Chair = eyesore
Thus, Luca, in addition of being a bitch and a whore, is a chair.

Just defeated (more like crushed) Mir and started phase 3. I wish the battles were a little harder, they're so unchallenging. I have only used blue magic once at the beginning of the game.

>>5773876
If you were to channel all that energy you put into pointlessly hating on one character into something else, you could accomplish things. It doesn't get you any attention either, so I have to wonder why you do it.

>>5773653
All the better.

>>5773653

Look at that cute belly. Hips aren't bad, either.

>>5773653

It's the best way to be. Phew, I almost forgot to post this.

Oh god, Frelia is so HNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG.

Well that's AT2 finally finished after putting it off for god knows how long. Even with no girl power, dirty reyvateils and no Replekia the last fight a little too easy for my liking but I guess that was expected. I liked Sublimation being played with the backdrop of earth. I had to finish the fight in style with a synchronity chain completely nuking Infel and Nenesha with the help of the AT1 crew just for added awesome. It was also nice to see the cutscenes going together with EXEC_with.METHOD_METAFALICA/., it somehow made the song even better if that's even possible. Also delicious Mir ending, fuck yes. And now the wait for AT3..

luca is a whore and a slut and a chair

>>5777357

She's a good girl.

>>5777210
TOTAL COMMAND

... so. http://twitter.com/HARVE_VISTA

I have to wonder if this is actually Gust's doing, because it's the only AT character account I've seen listed that 1) doesn't out itself as a bot and 2) links back to the official website in the profile. And doesn't follow anyone else, but that could just be Kusofure-sama being Kusofure-sama.

My favorite line so far: "I stopped stepping on people because too many of them were trying to look up my skirt." ;_;

>>5777947

I'm rather impressed with the amount of work Tsuchiya manages to put out. He's listed in the credits under quite a lot of stuff including lyrics and composition.. and he still manages to answer questions to any fans and still puts out a bi-monthly Toukousphere. The poor guy must be worked off his feet but you can really tell he's put all his effort into creating such a project. I'd love to shake his hand just for being awesome.

>>5779064

My lack of moon knowledge has failed me.

>>5779090
Agreed. He's my hero.

>>5779064
Wait, what? She stopped stepping on people because she found out they were trying to look up her skirt? Am I missing something here?

>>5780848

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYDY7z_yKpw

Speaking of which, has anyone tried the AT3 DLC yet? Also I couldn't help but laugh at Google's attempt at translating that Vista Twitter.

I've yet to see XP/Vista wingfuck. I'm disappointed, Japan.

There's a lack of Totori in this thread.

>>5783056
Perhaps once I stop being lazy and make a japanese PSN network account I'll check it out

http://ar-tonelico.jp/at3/at3_DLC/

>>5786613

I believe the term 'DO IT FAGGOT' is highly appropriate right now.

I thought Inudrill had died, it's nice to see an update.

>>5786613
The DLC was something of a letdown.

First off, the Binary World is entirely unvoiced, which makes progress slow as hell and comprehension a bit spotty when your rune levels aren't that high like mine aren't. That's bad enough on its own, but it also seems like not a single new drawing has been done for it aside from the level map, as everything is pictures of the 3-D models, reused sprites, and reused backgrounds. It does seem like they made some 3-D video going by the preview on PSN, however.

The writing doesn't impress much either, going by the first chapter it seems like very eroge-esque setup focused around Ar Ru and Aoto's hormone-driven adventures. I didn't exactly enjoy the awkward conversation about how daring all the girls' swimsuits are. (Although, I did enjoy Ar Ru blushing a little bit.) Oh and the swimsuits are just the 3rd level purge sprites, as I mentioned no new artwork.

The Harvestasya mods only change her lines in the previously existing game events, so you'll have to play through at least once more to make the appropriate saves to see all of the different variations.

Given the choice between doing that or clearing more character endings in Atelier Totori to make way for the true ending, I chose the fully voiced option with real swimsuits.

ok /jp/ i come here offering a cmopormise. I've set up an IRC for discussing the niconico streams we find. i hope you leave this up long enough for everyone to find it. I'm in quakenet,# niconico . btw, fucky ou !!white stimpy.

>>5791969

That's somewhat disappointing and but honestly not surprising. Considering budget and time restraints I'm sure they just wanted to get something out for the fans instead of nothing at all, after all any additional Ar-Ru content is delicious regardless of how mediocre it is. I'm sure tsundere/masochistic Vista is great but it sounds like too much effort to put in for a couple of changed lines so I respect your decision, good sir. How is Totori anyway? I've heard pretty much nothing about it even though it's already released.

Sigh.

here is what you need: http://videotoolkit.info

I figured I'd give Ar Tonelico a try, so I downloaded and tried to emulate it. Switched to Japanese audio but the dub's still in the animated scenes...
Back on topic, though: My computer isn't high-end but it's good enough to run most things smoothly. But even with speedhacks, my FPS dropped to the low 20's. Anything I can do about that?
I plan to buy it and just use my old PS2 but I figured I'd ask.

>>5796121

Assuming it's setup correctly then no, you'd have to upgrade your PC from the last era.

>>5796570
Ah well, PS2 it is. At least until I get a new PC.
Thanks.

>>5796612

You're welcome. Just keep in mind that if you do upgrade your PC you'll be able to play other games also like all the Atelier games etc, it's definitely something to consider before putting money to the games themselves.

>>5796612

Ha ha, you're just like me man. I complained about my crappy PC earlier, at least you actually saw the game open up.

>>5798030
For the first few seconds, it's entertaining to hear the characters all talking in slow motion but it's damn near unplayable.

>>5798174

I'm curious, what is your computers spec? Sounds pretty dated to be running in slow motion at all times.

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quintuples

>>5799999
>my face when I actually got quintuples

>>5799999

>>5799999
The gods of autism have smiled upon you today it seems

>>5800009
>>5800014
>>5800026
Fuck off back to /a/.

>>5800047

Sadly the faggotry isn't that surprising.

Japan needs to invent a way so thatg irls impregnate emn with their vagina. Or taht with urethal docking and futa.

Left or right?

It's from SZS

>>5800047
>>5802011

Says the people who embraced the spambots while everyone else wanted it to fuck off.

>>5793079

Totori is my new little sister. She's just so adorable.

The writing is mostly humorous, and of the good kind. I'm usually smiling when I view events, even after having watched them once or twice over now. The characters all have their own little quirks that make them quite endearing, even joke characters like ヘタレ Peter. I can also tell they put a lot of care into producing each scene, there's small things like playing a bgm from the introduction stanza instead of the usual beginning when it's appropriate.

The gameplay is fairly light. I'd put it at about the same difficulty as the Ar Tonelico games. But, there are enough things to do that I never really get bored. It's a very open world to explore, but the events are such that I won't run around for hours without seeing a single event unless I really try not to, so it never feels grindy. There's always a goal to work towards. The battle system also lacks depth, but who cares when stuff looks so impressive.

Everything in this game looks fantastic from the backgrounds to the character art, but the character models impress me the most. You can tell they put a lot of effort into making the 3-D models resemble Kishida's character designs, and the battle animations aren't half-assed either (too bad everyone only has two skills + one ultimate move).

As great as all of that is, the best part of Atelier Totori would have to be the music for me. The GUST composers really outdid themselves this time, making some fitting and enjoyable songs for fields, characters, battle, and everything in between. To put some numbers to it, 41 out of 62 songs from the OST entered my regular playing rotation, while for AT3 13 out of 81 songs entered the rotation. Just listen to this:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10167133

tl;dr Atelier Totori is my new favorite console game

>>5803394
Does the game have filthy males that are attracted to her? Could you remove them from the game?

>>5803403
There's not much romance in the game, although SterkxRorona is kinda canon, but as the events do borrow heavily from anime/manga/eroge there's plenty of stuff like Geno getting embarrassed when Totori invites him to stay the night. Totori' way too innocent for her to notice anything like that anyways. I suppose you could avoid ever seeing any of that by not putting any of the male characters into your party, after the requisite inclusion of Geno in the intro months of the game. Sterk's too OP to not use on your first playthrough though.

However, the game does have a lot (a looot) of yuri subtext, from the classic RoronaxCuderia to TotorixRorona to Merviaxevery other girl.

>>5803513
>However, the game does have a lot (a looot) of yuri subtext, from the classic RoronaxCuderia to TotorixRorona to Merviaxevery other girl.

Gust is a company with good taste.

Oh yay, another Totori fan.

I've been loving it too. The game is ridiculously cute, and I've been surprised at the frequency of events. There's never really a lull or boring part in the game. It's always something. I've got my alchemy up to 40 and adventurer license up to Cobalt. Right now I'm doing some exploring in all the areas I haven't been to yet.

This has easily become my new favorite game. It's my first Gust game as well. I'm definitely going to have to play Atelier Rorona.

What's your favorite party btw? I seem to like Sterk and Rorona the most.

>>5803670
Mimi and Sterk are the strongest combination. Sterk just kicks everyones' asses in terms of stats and skills, while Mimi's assist on Totori's attack is invaluable for normal battles, because of the extra attack, and boss battles, because it stuns. Her ultimate also packs quite a punch. Mimi's only weakness is low LP, as her attack is up there and low defense is offset by insane speed.

Not that it matters much now to me, I've synthesized OP gear for everyone so I could beat all the bosses with Rorona and Mark if I wanted to. Maybe I'll do that in my Rich Ending run...

>>5803832
>Mimi and Sterk are the strongest combination.

Yeah I don't doubt that. I can't help but love Rorona's AOE attacks (special and normal) and plus I love it when she makes pie :3

I'll probably give Mervia/Sterk a try soon though.

>>5803394
>(too bad everyone only has two skills + one ultimate move)

Haha. Two skills. Such a kidder.

...

You ARE kidding, right?

>>5802676

Excuse me? I've been playing Mana Khemia for the past few hours while queueing reports via the post reporting helper. The whole 'Cornelia' thing was fucking stupid, now I can go back to taking it easy in this thread while getting depressed at the usual shitposts.

Dreaming of a delicious leotard; I'm going to bed.

Stay buri hamachi, Anon.

Dreaming of a certain leotard was actually pretty nice..

I do hope Pamela appears in more games.

>>5807503

>>5807503

Why couldn't it be Anna? ;_; Fucking ghosts. Also it appears we're at the bump limit.

Stop being lazy, new OP.

I think I may save up my money to buy Atelier Rorona this fall. I wish it would appear in Gamestop's listing already so I could pre-order it and get those extras.

I know it won't do awesomely sales-wise in the west, but I hope it doesn't do TOO badly. I want Gust to bring us more games.

NISA finally responded to my e-mail to them, here it is:

>1a. Is Ar Tonelico Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel going to be the finalized name?
NISA: Yes, this is the final title.

>1b. Are there plans for a limited edition of AT3 with art book or soundtrack, etc.?
NISA: We would love to release this title with premium edition, but we still don't know yet.

>2. Will there be a standard edition version of Atelier Rorona with a lowered price? And any plans for a European release of Rorona?
NISA: We are planning to release a standard edition of Rorona, but probably not for a lower price. And yes, we are planning to release this title in European regeion.

>3. Are you able to answer why the localization of Classic Dungeon is PSN-only?
NISA: It is getting more and more difficult to release PSP titles in retail stores, especially smaller titles such as Classic Dungeon. We thought PSN only release would be the best option for us considering the situation.

>4. Are there plans to re-release Ar Tonelico 1 & 2 on PSN?
NISA: We are currently not planning to re-release AT 1 & 2 on PSN, but this is something we would like to consider. Thank you for your advice!!

>5. Will there be English-voiced versions of your anime DVDs like Toradora, or will all anime DVD releases be subs only?
NISA: At this moment, we do not have plans to dub our anime title, unfortunately.

I hope this helps. Please do not hesitate if you have any further questions!!

Best regards,

Customer Support Staff

NIS America, Inc.

>>5811609
You forgot to ask if AT3 will be dual-audio.

Well I haven't thought of it at the time (this was a couple weeks ago). But I'm pretty sure it will be, since just about every PS3 game NISA localized had dual-audio.

>>5811609

Wait.. they completely ignored the fansub question?

>>5811694

Yeah, I thought that was weird... Maybe they couldn't answer?

>>5811852

Eh, maybe they can't acknowledge the fact that a group is fansubbing a licensed game despite the fact that they know they fucked up. It was worth asking, at least. I just hope they take it into consideration anyway since that email suggests they're interested in such an idea.

Also this thread has been on the bump limit the whole day, if the new OP hasn't made a new thread by the time I wake up then I'll make a new thread later.

New thread at >>5813819

Sorry for the delay. Also minor technical difficulties.